Another Fanatec wheel arrives!

[NickA]

The shifter adapters are for mounting the shifters (sequential and gated sticks, not paddle) away from the wheel itself.


There used to be larger paddle shifters, but their design proved to be detrimental to the overall use of the wheel, so they were scrapped.

I personally have found the current smaller ones to be perfect, though I admittedly will hardly ever use them.

Oh right, I know what you mean now!! 👍
Do you have the CSP's by any chance? If so, what's your verdict?
I really can't make my mind up on whether to order the CS pedals or just to stick with my pedals from the G25. Probably gonna invest in a VR3 too so prefer to make the right choice from the outset....

 

[versapak]

Oh right, I know what you mean now!! 👍
Do you have the CSP's by any chance? If so, what's your verdict?
I really can't make my mind up on whether to order the CS pedals or just to stick with my pedals from the G25. Probably gonna invest in a VR3 too so prefer to make the right choice from the outset....

The clubsport pedals... 👍


They definitely add to the price of the wheel, but their build and function quality is amazing. They are built to last for sure. Heck, they might even be sturdier than the pedals in my real car.

 

[NickA]

The clubsport pedals... 👍


They definitely add to the price of the wheel, but their build and function quality is amazing. They are built to last for sure. Heck, they might even be sturdier than the pedals in my real car.

Cool, thanks for the info!
Now I just gotta get my Playseat Evo for sale (And sell it!) and then to order a VR3. Tomorrow is the day for ordering the Turbo S wheel too....

Cheers mate! 👍

 

[bevo]

Does anyone know how to get the brake vibration to work on all games? I didn't get any kind of instruction manual whatsoever with the clubsprt pedals, and have no idea how to get the brake to vibrate.

 

[versapak]

Does anyone know how to get the brake vibration to work on all games? I didn't get any kind of instruction manual whatsoever with the clubsprt pedals, and have no idea how to get the brake to vibrate.

With the Turbo S wheel? Final or beta?


The brake vibration with any game is only a feature on the final Turbo S, and to enable it you just have to go into settings, cycle to ABS, and then adjust what percentage of press you want before the vibration activates.

Also make sure the dial on your clubsport pedals is turned up. It is a dial to adjust the amount of vibration, and if it is all the way counterclockwise, then you will get nothing.

 

[bevo]

With the Turbo S wheel? Final or beta?


The brake vibration with any game is only a feature on the final Turbo S, and to enable it you just have to go into settings, cycle to ABS, and then adjust what percentage of press you want before the vibration activates.

Also make sure the dial on your clubsport pedals is turned up. It is a dial to adjust the amount of vibration, and if it is all the way counterclockwise, then you will get nothing.

The dial on mine adjusts how much pressure I have to use to get full brake. It does make the vibration motor spin also but it is very, very faint. I can just barely feel it vibrating.

 

[versapak]

The dial on mine adjusts how much pressure I have to use to get full brake. It does make the vibration motor spin also but it is very, very faint. I can just barely feel it vibrating.

It is not very intense, but I can definitely feel it just fine.


I have my ABS set at 85. It could be yours is just set too high to really kick in for you. You can go from 1% brake press all the way to 100% in increments of 1, so there is definitely room to customize.

 

[bevo]

Has anyone had any trouble getting their turbo s wheel into ps3 mode. I've had a test wheel for over a month and have used it a good bit. I never had any trouble with it at all, but my new wheel won't go into ps3 mode. I can't get the lights to come on and take control of the ps3. Any help would be great.

 

[versapak]

Has anyone had any trouble getting their turbo s wheel into ps3 mode. I've had a test wheel for over a month and have used it a good bit. I never had any trouble with it at all, but my new wheel won't go into ps3 mode. I can't get the lights to come on and take control of the ps3. Any help would be great.

I couldn't get mine to go into PS3 mode either. I have a little usb hub that plugs into the front of the ps3 to expand its ports, and once I removed that hub and plugged the wheel in directly it worked just fine.

 

[bevo]

I figured it out. I had to actually use the usb cord the first time and it worked. I was just trying to use the dongle and it wouldn't find it until I used it once with he usb. Everything works great now.

 

[Racer XO]

The shifter adapters are for mounting the shifters (sequential and gated sticks, not paddle) away from the wheel itself.

I didn't see any pics of this on Fanatec's site, is there any floating around because I really hate having my shifter attached to the wheel.

 

[mikemav]

Has anyone tried a USB switching hub or KVM switch to avoid moving the USB cable from PS3 to PC, back and forth all the time? I know it's a minor thing, but I plan to dress and keep neat and tied down all my cables and it would be nice if I could have a fixed connection to both wheels that could be swapped via a switch instead of manually?

I think I have an old KVM (keyboard, video, mouse) switcher to share peripherals between up to 4 PCs. It supports USB 2.0 even (not sure if the wheel or Clubsports need 2.0?) Anyway, may give it a try just to see. Could be one more thing that helps automate my arrive and drive sim plans...

BTW, does the PWTS to Xbox 360 connection use USB or a wireless dongle? I have not connected it to the 360 yet as I've been finishing up the cockpit.

 

[versapak]

I didn't see any pics of this on Fanatec's site, is there any floating around because I really hate having my shifter attached to the wheel.

Here is a picture I found of it. I am not sure how it mounts though, as I don't actually have one.

 

[Racer XO]

Thanks for the pic, looking at that picture it seems that mount might not work for my cockpit so I my just rig something up to mount it to my shifter plate.

 

[Biggles]

Yeah, that's it. Doesn't look like a great solution to me. The Playseat shifter holder is already a little suspect because of the way it's cantilevered out from the seat frame. The Fanatec adapter cantilevers the actual shifter even further out, which I think is going to put a lot of stress on the shifter holder (in the photo, the shifter itself also sits at the extreme end of the rods, which doesn't seem like a good idea!), & frankly, the whole thing looks a bit clumsy compared to the seamless mounting possible with the G25 shifter.

Everything about the Fanatec system has been carefully thought out for ease-of-use when attaching the wheel to a table or to the Fanatec wheel stand. Unfortunately, it makes it awkward to hard-mount in a "conventional" way. It's a shame that Fanatec didn't simply include some threaded mounting holes in the body of the shifters ...

I'm still not decided whether to get Fanatec's adapter, or try & rig-up some kind of direct mount to the Playseat shifter holder.

 

[versapak]

Yeah, that's it. Doesn't look like a great solution to me. The Playseat shifter holder is already a little suspect because of the way it's cantilevered out from the seat frame. The Fanatec adapter cantilevers the actual shifter even further out, which I think is going to put a lot of stress on the shifter holder (in the photo, the shifter itself also sits at the extreme end of the rods, which doesn't seem like a good idea!), & frankly, the whole thing looks a bit clumsy compared to the seamless mounting possible with the G25 shifter.

Everything about the Fanatec system has been carefully thought out for ease-of-use when attaching the wheel to a table or to the Fanatec wheel stand. Unfortunately, it makes it awkward to hard-mount in a "conventional" way. It's a shame that Fanatec didn't simply include some threaded mounting holes in the body of the shifters ...

I'm still not decided whether to get Fanatec's adapter, or try & rig-up some kind of direct mount to the Playseat shifter holder.

I'm pretty sure he just doesn't have the shifter on all the way in that pic. I think I have seen other pictures where the shifter was mounted all the way on those bars, which would be very solid.

 

[Delphic Reason]

I'm pretty sure he just doesn't have the shifter on all the way in that pic. I think I have seen other pictures where the shifter was mounted all the way on those bars, which would be very solid.

That is indeed the case. I for one am using the shifter adapters (2 of them). One hard mounted up by the wheel, and one down and to the right. Very solid, and also easily interchangeable when the need arises to utilize the sequential in the standard H-Gate position (down and to the right.... or Left for those of you over the pond).

 

[Biggles]

That is indeed the case. I for one am using the shifter adapters (2 of them). One hard mounted up by the wheel, and one down and to the right. Very solid, and also easily interchangeable when the need arises to utilize the sequential in the standard H-Gate position (down and to the right.... or Left for those of you over the pond).

So you can confirm that the shifter is completely solid when sitting on the adapter rods? Also, the bottom of the adapter has threaded holes so that it can be screwed to the Playseat shifter holder? 👍

 

[bevo]

So you can confirm that the shifter is completely solid when sitting on the adapter rods? Also, the bottom of the adapter has threaded holes so that it can be screwed to the Playseat shifter holder? 👍

Here is the review I did with more pics of the shifter holder and the other plate that comes with it. And no it is not rock solid, but it is fairly solid. It moves a little when shifting, but not enough to notice it while your using it. Yes there are holes to mount it with, but you have to drill new holes in the G25's shifter adapter. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=121039

I have mine mounted closer then he does, and it's not to far away from you to be uncomfortable. It really didn't take any getting use to after using the G25 shifter. It feels like it's in a good spot.

 

[versapak]

Here is the review I did with more pics of the shifter holder and the other plate that comes with it. And no it is not rock solid, but it is fairly solid. It moves a little when shifting, but not enough to notice it while your using it. Yes there are holes to mount it with, but you have to drill new holes in the G25's shifter adapter. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=121039

I have mine mounted closer then he does, and it's not to far away from you to be uncomfortable. It really didn't take any getting use to after using the G25 shifter. It feels like it's in a good spot.

I would venture to say that yours is not rock solid, because you have it mounted backward.

The way yours is mounted, you can't slide the shifter up flush against the adapter because of the other mount in the way. If you were to turn the shifter around I'd bet it would sit nice and solid on there. Of course the way you have it mounted it would be backward, but solid all the same.

I don't have a shifter adapter, so I can't speak from experience, but I do know the shifters are designed to sit with their back toward an edge.

I made my own shifter adapter of sorts, though it just caps off the ends of the rods rather than containing its own for mounting elsewhere. That is however how I believe the shifter adapters are also meant to be mounted. It is pretty darn solid though there is about a millimeter of play due to my limited drill bit options. I figure the short rods of the actual shifter adapter would be much more solid if inserted all the way.



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[Biggles]

I would venture to say that yours is not rock solid, because you have it mounted backward.

The way yours is mounted, you can't slide the shifter up flush against the adapter because of the other mount in the way. If you were to turn the shifter around I'd bet it would sit nice and solid on there. Of course the way you have it mounted it would be backward, but solid all the same.

Hmm ... I see your point! The shifter units are designed to sit against a table edge (whether in the basic set-up or the Clubsport clamp set-up) so that the table contributes to the solidity. All this makes perfect sense, IF you are clamping to a table: the shifter a is self-contained, compact, enclosed unit. It does, however make it awkward to mount to a cockpit (especially as I notice that the bottom of the shifter is not perfectly flat!).

Fanatec gets an "A" for effort, but in the end, the clamp + hard-mount option on the G25 seems to make a lot more sense, as it works perfectly either with a table or cockpit, & with the addition of the adapter, will work well with a wheel stand also.

I'm afraid overall, Fanatec's clamp system just doesn't really work as well as intended.

Bevo: perhaps you'll turn the adapter round the other way & let us know if it is more solid that way...

 

[bevo]

I don't really know how turning it around would help. The only reason it's not rock solid, is because the rods you put inside the shifter just are not a perfect solution to mounting a shifter. It's the actual shifter that moves not the bracket. It moves slightly forward and backward while shifting. It is pretty solid though, you really don't notice it moving unless that's what your looking for, but I will switch it around tonight to see if it helps any.

I also found the perfect way to mount the clubsport pedals to the playseat. No drilling or anything required, just a 4$ mounting bracket, 2 nuts and bolts and 2 zip ties. I'll try and take a picture later and post it. The clubsport pedals actually work alot better with the playseat then I thought they would. They don't seem to bend the playseat's pedal tray anymore then the G25 pedals did. All in all I would say the playseat is a decent choice for the turbo s clubsport setup.

Edit: I just went and looked and it's the rods moving around inside the bracket that causes it to move, not inside the shifter. I did notice that there might be 2 allen screw on the front of the bracket to tighten the rods with, but I'm not sure. They are very, very small and I couldn't tell for sure if they could be tightened or not(bad lighting). Even if they are able to be tightened, I don't have anything close to that small to tighten them with. The rods are very solid inside the shifter though. If I could get them like that inside the bracket it would be rock solid.

 

[versapak]

I don't really know how turning it around would help. The only reason it's not rock solid, is because the rods you put inside the shifter just are not a perfect solution to mounting a shifter. It's the actual shifter that moves not the bracket. It moves slightly forward and backward while shifting. It is pretty solid though, you really don't notice it moving unless that's what your looking for, but I will switch it around tonight to see if it helps any.

I also found the perfect way to mount the clubsport pedals to the playseat. No drilling or anything required, just a 4$ mounting bracket, 2 nuts and bolts and 2 zip ties. I'll try and take a picture later and post it. The clubsport pedals actually work alot better with the playseat then I thought they would. They don't seem to bend the playseat's pedal tray anymore then the G25 pedals did. All in all I would say the playseat is a decent choice for the turbo s clubsport setup.

It would be more solid if you turned it around, because then you could actually stick the rods in all the way.

The rods are going to be their sturdiest at the point where they connect to the mount. The closer you get the shifter to that, the sturdier it will sit.

If you only have them half in, then of course it won't be rock solid. That is all I am saying. Theoretically you could mount it the same direction you did, but closer to the edge, because that way also the shifter could then sit flush up against the adapter. That really is key to its stabilization.



[EDIT]

Also, the closer to flush that you can get the shifter to the adapter, the less it will loosen the rods themselves, though a bit of locktite would probably help a bit there as well.

 

[bevo]

There is play inside my shifter mount with the rods. They are not really tight when you put them inside it they, wobble just a bit and that is where I get the movement. I tried the other way earlier and it did the same thing. On mine, the rods will go clear through the shifter mount and the shifter. I have mine so that they are flush on both the shifter and the mount, and it sets against my g25 adapter. I don't want to sound like a know it all, but it really makes no difference when it's turned around the other way at all. All it does is set it back farther on the chair. It has nothing at all to do with how stable it is since the rods can go clear through the mount and the shifter. The play I'm getting is because the rods are not tight enough inside of the shifter adapter. Don't get me wrong it works well, but not perfect.

I do have a question though. Are those tiny bolts on the front( or back of the shifter mount in my case) of the shifter mount adjustable? I really can't think of any reason why they would be there unless it was to tighten the rods inside of the mount. I just don't have anything that small to try and tighten them.

 

[versapak]

I do have a question though. Are those tiny bolts on the front( or back of the shifter mount in my case) of the shifter mount adjustable? I really can't think of any reason why they would be there unless it was to tighten the rods inside of the mount. I just don't have anything that small to try and tighten them.

I dunno, since I don't have one, but...


If those rods are removable, I imagine you could actually just put long bolts through the shifter instead. You could then make darn sure that sucker is tight.

 

[Biggles]

The point about having the shifter against the table (or in this case the Playseat shifter holder), is that (theoretically) the table (or shifter holder) would prevent the shifter from moving forward even if the rods aren't perfectly tight (holy smoke, this is starting to get complicated!).

Here's the alternative I'm considering: build a wood "box" flush around the shifter, screwing up through the (existing) holes in the bottom of shifter holder. The inside front of the box would lie against the front flat part of the shifter while the sides & back hold it in place.

... or Fanatec could have put a couple of screw mounts in the bottom of the shifters to start with, & we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[versapak]

The point about having the shifter against the table (or in this case the Playseat shifter holder), is that (theoretically) the table (or shifter holder) would prevent the shifter from moving forward even if the rods aren't perfectly tight (holy smoke, this is starting to get complicated!).

Here's the alternative I'm considering: build a wood "box" flush around the shifter, screwing up through the (existing) holes in the bottom of shifter holder. The inside front of the box would lie against the front flat part of the shifter while the sides & back hold it in place.

... or Fanatec could have put a couple of screw mounts in the bottom of the shifters to start with, & we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Yeah, given how good they are with the hard mounting of their other items, it is a bit odd that they didn't just include some threaded mounts locations on the shifters.

I can't imagine it would have taken much engineering or extra $ to do so.

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[mikemav]

I don't really know how turning it around would help. The only reason it's not rock solid, is because the rods you put inside the shifter just are not a perfect solution to mounting a shifter. It's the actual shifter that moves not the bracket. It moves slightly forward and backward while shifting. It is pretty solid though, you really don't notice it moving unless that's what your looking for, but I will switch it around tonight to see if it helps any.

I also found the perfect way to mount the clubsport pedals to the playseat. No drilling or anything required, just a 4$ mounting bracket, 2 nuts and bolts and 2 zip ties. I'll try and take a picture later and post it. The clubsport pedals actually work alot better with the playseat then I thought they would. They don't seem to bend the playseat's pedal tray anymore then the G25 pedals did. All in all I would say the playseat is a decent choice for the turbo s clubsport setup.

Edit: I just went and looked and it's the rods moving around inside the bracket that causes it to move, not inside the shifter. I did notice that there might be 2 allen screw on the front of the bracket to tighten the rods with, but I'm not sure. They are very, very small and I couldn't tell for sure if they could be tightened or not(bad lighting). Even if they are able to be tightened, I don't have anything close to that small to tighten them with. The rods are very solid inside the shifter though. If I could get them like that inside the bracket it would be rock solid.

Yes, bravo, pics of the Playseat mount idea for the pedals would be appreciated. I was about to build my work-around this weekend but I'd like to see what you're doing first. So please post whenever you get a chance, thanks.

 

[bevo]

Yes, bravo, pics of the Playseat mount idea for the pedals would be appreciated. I was about to build my work-around this weekend but I'd like to see what you're doing first. So please post whenever you get a chance, thanks.

The first picture is the bracket I used. It's a 12 inch mounting brace, but the first and last holes are 11 inches apart, which is perfect because the pedals mounting holes are 11 inches apart. The holes in the bracket also matched up perfect with the holes in the playseat's pedal plate.

The second picture kind of shows how it's attached to the top of the pedal plate. I used zip ties to attach the bottom part of the pedals. I just ran one around the metal bar of the pedals and one of the large holes on the playseat plate on both sides of the pedals.

The last picture is of the whole setup.
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All you need is one of the mounting brackets, which should be found at any hardware store, 2 bolts that will fit into the clubsport pedals holes, 2 nuts, 4 washers, and a couple zip ties. It cost me 4$ all together. I really can't imagine how you could mount them any cleaner, easier, or sturdier then this.

The playseat works better then I could have dreamed of with the pedals. I really thought that it was going to flex way to much, but it's very minimal. You really can't notice it at all while your racing. The center bar is also not an issue at all. It's even less noticeable with the clubsport pedals then the G25's.

If you have any questions feel free to ask, but this is a really easy mount. If you can find a 12 inch bracket like the one I did, as soon as you lay it one the playseats pedal plate it will be obvious how to put it all together.

 

[mikemav]

The first picture is the bracket I used. It's a 12 inch mounting brace, but the first and last holes are 11 inches apart, which is perfect because the pedals mounting holes are 11 inches apart. The holes in the bracket also matched up perfect with the holes in the playseat's pedal plate.

The second picture kind of shows how it's attached to the top of the pedal plate. I used zip ties to attach the bottom part of the pedals. I just ran one around the metal bar of the pedals and one of the large holes on the playseat plate on both sides of the pedals.

The last picture is of the whole setup.
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All you need is one of the mounting brackets, which should be found at any hardware store, 2 bolts that will fit into the clubsport pedals holes, 2 nuts, 4 washers, and a couple zip ties. It cost me 4$ all together. I really can't imagine how you could mount them any cleaner, easier, or sturdier then this.

The playseat works better then I could have dreamed of with the pedals. I really thought that it was going to flex way to much, but it's very minimal. You really can't notice it at all while your racing. The center bar is also not an issue at all. It's even less noticeable with the clubsport pedals then the G25's.

If you have any questions feel free to ask, but this is a really easy mount. If you can find a 12 inch bracket like the one I did, as soon as you lay it one the playseats pedal plate it will be obvious how to put it all together.

Thx for the info. Do you recall what section of the hardware store carried this bracket? I'm stuck here with the big boys HD and Lowes, all the mom & pop hardware stores sadly are run out of town. So was this general hardware (where they have the nuts and bolts, those slide out drawers holding other misc. hardware, etc.., or was this a speciality item in another area?