Are you sick of Japanese cars poll

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adramire, I am in the same footsteps that you are...
 
Now, if the question was: Do you want more European cars? Then the answer would be yes. Do you want more American cars? Yes. Do you want more Australian cars? Yes. But do you want fewer Japanese cars? No.
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Very sick of it, way to many miatas, skylines, fairladys, when I see a miata I want to throw my ps3 at a wall, but other than that a handful of japanese cars are fun and pretty to drive
 
Earlier you said that our opinions won't change what PD do. Obviously with Spec 2.0 PD has shown that they do listen to the community, maybe not perfect, but they're listening and making changes. Look at how different GT5 was at launch. But I do agree, DLC has too many Japanese cars. :)

I was referring purely to their car choice, I agree they have listened and acted on other aspects but car wise they seem to acknowledge the issue but then continue as usual.
 
the Skyline range. It's Japan's answer to the Ford Mustang so it's a bit of a legend.


Wouldn't early celicas be more of a Japaneseanese mustang? then the Supra range?

The skyline is more of a Japaneseanese M3...the ultimate version of a domestic passenger sedan. Until the R35 when it became a serious competitor against the likes of porsche...

Nerveles...

But, i don't understand why they need to have things like MNPIII or GTR Black mask skylines, and leave out cars like the '69 Boss 302 (a sucsessful car in various forms of motorsport).

Its sucks that Australia is largly ignored, except for GT4...but GT5 has TWO cars, and standard ones at that. Pathetic when you consider that the '71 GTHO was the fastest 4 door in the world, and cars like the Torana XU-1, GTR-X concept...then the likes of the FPV F6, a turbocharged Falcon with over 300kw's of power available...

Racing cars like "Green's Tuff" Dick Johnstons Group C falcon, Eggenberger Sierras, Brockies A9X torana...
 
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But, i don't understand why they need to have things like MNPIII or GTR Black mask skylines, and leave out cars like the '69 Boss 302 (a sucsessful car in various forms of motorsport).
What you don't realize is that it doesn't take PD an additional 6 months of man-hours time to create a slightly (or very slightly) different variation of an existing car, therefore not including (or even removing) them wouldn't automatically have made it possible for their staff to model the cars you want.

It's pointless to complain that there are too many of the same cars... chances are it took a few dozen minutes to make most of them in the case of Standard cars, or something more in the case of the few Premium "duplicates", over a total development time of years.
 
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What you don't realize is that it doesn't take PD an additional 6 months of man-hours time to create a slightly (or very slightly) different variation of an existing car, therefore not including (or even removing) them wouldn't automatically have made it possible for their staff to model the cars you want.

I know this...as the model is already there, and its just the specification definitions and skins that change, but i comes across as just filler material...
 
What you don't realize is that it doesn't take PD an additional 6 months of man-hours time to create a slightly (or very slightly) different variation of an existing car, therefore not including (or even removing) them wouldn't automatically have made it possible for their staff to model the cars you want.

It's pointless to complain that there are too many of the same cars... chances are it took a few dozen minutes to make most of them in the case of Standard cars, or something more in the case of the few Premium "duplicates", over a total development time of years.
So where's the duplicate non-Japanese car then?💡

I've heard this argument a million times..
So where's the 93, 94, 95, 96, 98, 99, 01, and 02 Camaro?
I can make a real big list.

Yes, duplicates are easy to implement.
If they're so easy, which they are, why do they only duplicate every possible and even fake versions of Japanese cars, while leaving every other manufacture to only 1 variation?

It's old, tired, and most importantly, 100% invalid.
 
That PD chose for whatever reason (although it might simply be due to better communication and data sharing with JDM car manufacturers) to not include all possible model years and trims of the existing EU and US cars is not going to prove wrong that changing minor exterior details and car specifications is easier and takes much less time than modeling a completely new car from scratch.
 
Haha, interesting that NO gets the most votes...

I think there are enough of them to satisfy the Japanese cars fans but we have way too less European cars... At least 2009/2010/2011 ones
 
I don't really care since I use the premiums 99.8% most of the time...and 30% of my garage ofo premiums are Japanese but only use them once in a while
 
eran0004
Skyline range. It's Japan's answer to the Ford Mustang so it's a bit of a legend.

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Wouldn't early celicas be more of a Japanese mustang? then the Supra range?

The skyline is more of a Japanese M3...the ultimate version of a domestic passenger sedan. Until the R35 when it became a serious competitor against the likes of porsche...

Nerveles...

But, i don't understand why they need to have things like MNPIII or GTR Black mask skylines, and leave out cars like the '69 Boss 302 (a sucsessful car in various forms of motorsport).

Its sucks that Australia is largly ignored, except for GT4...but GT5 has TWO cars, and standard ones at that. Pathetic when you consider that the '71 GTHO was the fastest 4 door in the world, and cars like the Torana XU-1, GTR-X concept...then the likes of the FPV F6, a turbocharged Falcon with over 300kw's of power available...

Racing cars like "Green's Tuff" Dick Johnstons Group C falcon, Eggenberger Sierras, Brockies A9X torana...

You guys are correct about the Skyline being a legend, but ti compare it to the legendary Mustang or a M3. Not that much. :)

I truly believe that the Skyline series are Japan's answer to the Corvette. Why you may ask, because the are the most well know iconic cars that the auto and motorsports world has ever seen. When they first started out (C1 Corvette in the early 1950's and Skyline was mostly known as a sedan made by Prince Motor Company). They weren't the monsters like S20 Hakosua or a L48 C3 Stingray. But they were classics from the start ( A late 1950 early 1960's C1 Corvette was more powerful than the earlier one and the Skyline was being looked at as a performer disguised as a sedan). And look at the time progress, these two cars had gotten more powerful and a force to deal with during the Muscle Car Era but one actually lived on during the Oil Crisis of the 70's (Corvettes were with smaller blocks in the crisis, but Hakosua and Kemeri Skylines were stopped and the GT-R name was sealed for 16 years :(). In the 80's the late C3's and early C4's were slowly getting performance numbers by the years as they progress, but with more on being fuel efficent at the time. But in Japan, the Skyline and GT-R name was slowly reviving itself with the DR30 and HR31 GTR in the mid-late 1980's. In '89 (me and the GTR R32 are born in the year:D) the "Godzilla" R32 was a tech car of it's time with the ATTESTA ETS and RB26 engine was a beast, meanwhile the late C4 were back as the American Sports Car with the ZR-1 with its impressive LT1 V8 at 380hp was a beast at the time even though the Dodge Viper was a monster with its V10 block, similar to the Toyota Supra MKIV(early models) Acura/Honda NSX NA1 and FD3S RX-7 were mortal enemies of the R32 and each other. That's why IMO, The Skyline GTR and the Chevy Corvette are the true comparasions.

Sorry for the long essay, but I had to share the comparasion information about the two and how they are somewhat equal, even though ones a Tuner/JDM and the other a Muscle car. If you want to add any info or correct it, I give anyone permission to do so. Thanks!

Yes! I love Japanese cars, espically the Skyline GT-R, NSX, Supra, RX7, Zs and S2Ks, but I love if they added more US cars like the Dodge Cornet Super Bee, Ram SRT10, F150 SVT Raptor and Viper RT/10. Euro cars like the Audi RS4, Mercedes E63 AMG, Koeisseng(?) CCX, Ferarri F50 and FXX, Lamborgini Dialbo SV and Mercedes CLK GTR road car. And don't forget Australia with the HSV/Vaxuhall Morano, FPVs, Ford Falcons and Korea with the Hyundai Genesis Spec R!! :D
 
That PD chose for whatever reason (although it might simply be due to better communication and data sharing with JDM car manufacturers) to not include all possible model years and trims of the existing EU and US cars is not going to prove wrong that changing minor exterior details and car specifications is easier and takes much less time than modeling a completely new car from scratch.
I never said anything of the sort, and you're dodging the point.

The specs for example, of the 93-97 Camaro's, the latter of which they have, are nearly identical, 275hp, up to 285hp, assuming all Z28's. So no, communication and data sharing isn't a big deal.

Secondly, you're assuming PD actually looked into any of that, and didn't just change the power, weight, and/or grip levels without any real data. Given that some GT4 cars are even based off model cars instead of real ones, I find it laughable to assume they "needed more data" to do what they did creating cars for GT1-4.

But the probable truth is, PD did just slap these variants in, a quick spin shows they all pretty much drive the same, sans bits of grip, power, or weight. So based on the evidence I have, I have to believe these are the utmost definition of "cheap filler".
Nobody wants to hear how terrible the models for standards really are, but they really are, it was "proven" as much as possible with this.

Haha, interesting that NO gets the most votes..
With the actual question of the poll, it should. There's no reason to want "less" of anything they already have, the proper question is, "does anyone want to see the majority of new cars added to GT be Japanese, like they've done in all the past games."

Of course, I can't find a reasonable complaint for 'losing" a few of the absolutely identical ones, no need for even 1kb wasted on a model that can be painted to the same special color, is there?
 
I do love Japanese cars. The issue I have it GT5 has way too many Hondas, Mitsubishis, Mazdas, Toyotas etc.
 
No and I'm a pickup truck guy and wont see me anytime soon making a thread entitled: "Are you sick of GT5 cars and poor choice of trucks?"
 
I'd love to see more german cars in the game but apart from that I'm really happy with the car selection in GT5. My favourite genre of cars are the ones around 300hp and light weight - Japanese cars fulfil this genre quite nicely.
 
New Racing Car Pack (15 Cars), 14/15 of the new DLC cars are ricers. Wtf... :ouch:

They keep it going & going. Ricers over everything.
But I love to get the EvoX TC. :D:tup:


PD, why the heck not one of these non japanese cars?



Oh any why isn't the most stunning US car still not in the game?

 
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A little bit. Really just need some more new European cars. If they were European classics like a DB4 Zagota etc....Even better.

I dont mind an occasional Japanese car as honestly, I would prefer them to the majority of American cars.
 
I don't like playing the nationality card when it comes to cars in the GT series. The way I see it- nobody complains about mostly British bias with Codemasters racing games, and I don't hear people complaining about mostly American bias with the Forza series, so why Gran Turismo and why Japan? I don't necessarily get sick of Japanese cars. I am never going to say something like "I wish Gran Turismo was less Japanese." In fact, I love Japan. I'd even want to see more American cars and a better emphasis on Australian cars (and maybe more Korean cars as well). However, I am not sick of Japanese cars at all. So my answer is No.
 
ok, so maybe there's a few too many, but to be fair most GT5 owners own probably at least two skylines a RX7, NSX or a Subaru. the list goes on. however i would really like too see a few more older premium USA and GER cars for example; SSC ultimate areo and the BMW M6.
 
how about the Dacia Sandero?:D
 
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woops!:dopey: i wish i was joking. it would be funny to see it in-game though.
 
To an extent I'm sick of the Japanese cars. I love the 350/370z's, GTR, Evo, Impreza, NSX, and RX'7s. Everthing else they can cut back on though. Like to have more Euro and American cars.

After 10+ years they're still heavy on Japanese cars. So, I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
I wouldn't say I'm tired of Japanese cars per se but I do think that PD gives us a bit of overkill with so many redundant models like 47 Skylines (and I don't mean giving us a R31, R32 etc) because they are unique. I mean giving us Skyline R34 V-Spec and then V-Spec II Nur and then V-Spec MNP etc. Waste.

On the other hand, as they are based in Japan and Japanese cars are the most plentiful and easiest to get a hold of, I can understand WHY they use so many of them. I doubt there are too many American or European cars in Japan, particularly the former.
 
I don't like playing the nationality card when it comes to cars in the GT series. The way I see it- nobody complains about mostly British bias with Codemasters racing games, and I don't hear people complaining about mostly American bias with the Forza series, so why Gran Turismo and why Japan? I don't necessarily get sick of Japanese cars. I am never going to say something like "I wish Gran Turismo was less Japanese." In fact, I love Japan. I'd even want to see more American cars and a better emphasis on Australian cars (and maybe more Korean cars as well). However, I am not sick of Japanese cars at all. So my answer is No.

Sorry but I think Forza is very balanced and fair between US, Europe and Japan when it comes to cars. There are more Japanese and European cars than American.
 
I don't think those Japanese guys/Polyphony will ever get it right.

They placed a damn Prius Hybrid in Premium before putting a Supra! I mean seriously?

They totally missed the GT500, shoot the only new Mustang they have is the one that came out in '05! (there is virtually no difference between that and the premium '08).

I've said this before and I'll continue to say it, I hope Sony wakes the **** up and realizes their market share is GLOBAL, with emphasis on the US and Europe. Wouldn't it be a smarter idea to feature more cars from those respective countries?

So I voted, sick of Japanese cars. I'm actually proud to say I don't have a GTR in my garage!
 
Another great thread to start a flamewar...

Pft... I've got nothing against any cars... the more, the better.
 
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