Are you sick of seasonal events

[brundle56uk]

PS. Good to see so many devs on here! I had 15 years as a senior soft eng and some contracting designing optimisers & simulators for chemical processing & mobile phone networks. I used to work next door to MIT once

Sounds like you have more credentials than I

 

[Evolvedsoul]

nope.. never sick of easy money!

 

[mr_serious]

Agreed, and they should be aiming for as higher degree of AI as they can resonably achieve, and as stated, i think their focus has been misdirected in certain areas

Actually my response was not to you specifically but more a reality check to others as to how difficult the subject of AI is

Ah right! Automatic internet forum defence mode disengaged

Credentials don't mean anything on forums. I haven't done any serious software design for two years and even when I was still doing it I just had my niche and simulating persons almost certainly wasn't it! When simulating chemical processes you have proven equations which describe almost exactly the process you are simulating. To simulate randomness, chaos & human foibles well er

Still there are people out there who do actually have expertise in that sort of thing, I just wish PD would employ some of them
but it's good to know that you're talking on the same level sometimes.

 

[brundle56uk]

AI is a nightmare as youll know, (excuse me im using my phone)


Back in the day, nueral networks were the big thing, it was a major fad until one day someone said, hang on, were just using software to reproduce biological processes with all the assumptions that that brings, in other words, the only biologicaly inteligent things that are going on are what we know about - there cant be any others!

(this still important of course but at one point it was the answer to everuthing!)

AI is a masssive subject, way beyond my mind but interesting all the same, and true AI is certainly beyond any console we have today

That said, PD have the resourses to get someone in to improve it

 

[FosterG]

nope

 

[mr_serious]

AI is a nightmare as youll know, (excuse me im using my phone)


Back in the day, nueral networks were the big thing, it was a major fad until one day someone said, hang on, were just using software to reproduce biological processes with all the assumptions that that brings, in other words, the only biologicaly inteligent things that are going on are what we know about - there cant be any others!

(this still important of course but at one point it was the answer to everuthing!)

AI is a masssive subject, way beyond my mind but interesting all the same, and true AI is certainly beyond any console we have today

That said, PD have the resourses to get someone in to improve it

I did back propagation neural nets at Uni, but the best magic I have ever seen a computer system do was a massively parallel genetic algorithm optimiser it was orders of magnitude faster than the conventional NLP optimisation algorithm. The parallel processing was done using multiple nvidia GPU's and CUDA.

The thing is Artificial Neural Nets have nothing to do with simulating computer opponents. Ideally computer controlled entities should be given the course boundaries understand the best line rules (These could be pre-calculated by a GA optimiser though) and be given a certain degree of freedom and situational 'awareness'. Essentially situational awareness is just collision detection but with a radius that extends far beyond the target object you are calculating for.

I think though that with PD squeezing every millilitre of PS3 processing power to give us pretty graphics doesn't leave a lot of room for decent offline opposition.

 

[minicooperman]

unless im mistaken the main point of this thread was to highlight that it isnt very realistic that in every race you do a rolling start instead of a standing start. clearly most of you are to stupid to be able to do a standing start because its too hard for you, along with tying your shoelaces which your mum does for you. if you want to ram cars and win by 2 laps then go play need for speed.

 

[w0lfman18]

Exactly minicooperman. That's what I'm talking about. You actually understand, finally a view from a true (Australian) petrol head. Unlike the rest of these weirdos.

 

[Watt2159]

Hey at $300,000+ a race, I'm not complaining.

 

[DMoss84]

No point in doing them for me. Boring waste of time.

 

[vk56dehan]

Not tired of them...but the races need to be mixed up a little with more variety (not all one make and rolling starts). Make a Nissan Vs BMW or something with standing starts. They seem to not be challenging enough either. I don't want to have to down tune every car in order to make it challenging.

 

[urunatural]

I am easy, like most of them

 

[BWX]

Yeah they are boring now. There's no reason why PD can't change it up with standing starts and the arcade mode ai which can be very fun and challenging to race against.

Why can't there be longer races? Why can't there be tire wear and fuel consumption, or a required pit stop, or damage, or penalties? They're always 5 laps (or equivalent), chase the chicken. I make it a challenge with same/less tire and stock car or less PP and it's still boring.

I'd rather have them than not, but PD are amazingly unimaginative and stale.

 

[Watt2159]

Besides its the only way I know of to get racing outfits, besides going online to race against X2010s'.

 

[PAWEL17]

Rolling starts, are just PD compensating for poor AI.

 

[Sach]

What's disappointing is that I wanted to go back to the A-Spec Formula Gran Turismo championship, but it only pays out ~70,000 cr. for a 20-lap race. Those events are way better than the seasonals for the FGT, (exception being Nürburgring 24H).

 

[HE1RO]

Feelings of most people before seasonals: "WHY THE FUUU is so hard to get money, it literally take fo'evah to get enough for a the expensive cars"

Now that we have seasonals: "I liked gt5 before it had seasonals" *puts hipster glasses on*

 

[minicooperman]

Feelings of most people before seasonals: "WHY THE FUUU is so hard to get money, it literally take fo'evah to get enough for a the expensive cars"

Now that we have seasonals: "I liked gt5 before it had seasonals" *puts hipster glasses on*

were not saying that we liked gran turismo before seasonal events, were saying that there are certain things PD could change to make them better

 

[Thrawn]

I hate them. It's just that they so boring and faceless. I really wish PD make something like that special Gran Turismo event, where you travel world and race. Yeah it's still "same" ai, but there was variety. Like tour through US, Germany or UK. Oh. Right. That's requires actual work.

 

[Fryto]

They would be much more fun if you could start in the middle of a two file rolling start, a bit like in the 4hr nurburgring enduro. Then take the AI to arcade level pro with the necessary temper and seasonals would be a lot more fun. Not all seasonals are boring, I really liked the one with the fiat 500 on trial mountain and one of the early seasonals on ssr5. The more recent ones are way too easy though.

 

[BWX]

They would be much more fun if you could start in the middle of a two file rolling start, a bit like in the 4hr nurburgring enduro. Then take the AI to arcade level pro with the necessary temper and seasonals would be a lot more fun. Not all seasonals are boring, I really liked the one with the fiat 500 on trial mountain and one of the early seasonals on ssr5. The more recent ones are way too easy though.

I think you're talking about the expert challenges. Yeah those were fun but they are very few and far between.

That reminds me, what happened to the 'Drivers Club' that was ''coming soon'' a year ago?