Body modding, custom tuning and GT5...

[Mt. Lynx]

How about adding the ability to open hoods, doors and so on for photomode? That would be nice IMO.

And also, the abilty to first tune NA and then add a turbo/SC for even more power. That is more in the line of real tuning. Also I would like a dyno, where you can fine tune your parts to work better together.

I liked the idea of bodykits, since I´m great fan of GT racing, it would certainly add a new dimension to the game if you could turn just about any car into a true racecar (or rallycar), with a wider body and better aerodynamics. They already have tuners village, but how about a racers village? I´m thinking in the line of for example Prodrive, where you could build up your own racecar.

As things are in GT4, I hardly ever tune a car, since the lack of aeroparts won´t make a car into a true racer anyway, just a speeded version of a roadcar.

 

[Dave A]

Team666, thats pretty much how I feel about it all, the doors and bonnets opening ect would be nice, and if GT5 features visable damage then that should be easy to implement.

 

[SavageEvil]

I think that PD will go the extra mile and model cars from top to bottom, inside and out, judging from the two HD car models, I think it's a high possibility that you could open the doors and peer around the insides. If the damage engine is up to the standard that i think Kaz is aiming for then hoods and trunks will open as well.

I just hope that Tuner village also includes all the tuners signature parts, wings, turbo's. Another thing I think that wings should be applied in the optimal positioning on cars, as most noticed there must be balance to wing positioning fore and aft on the cars(especially on highly tuned racers), some are bolted on the trunk caraspace, while others are attached to the chassis and protrude through the rear of the car then veer upward(this one is usually away from the car body). Maybe I'm too into things like this, but I like things to be a realistic as possible and wing placement is just as important as brake size, tire grade, etc...

Oh and I seriously would like to be able to change engine output by messing with the ECU and boost pressures, a lot of race cars just utilize engine managment programs along with transmission setting to give the car the best use of power per course, I want that. SO that means total control of your LMP's, Group C's and what not. So if you choose to stick to one car and just adjust settings and engine timing to suit, your choice. I love having loads of cars to choose from, but from time to time I like to use my fave car and go up against certain others, but find it silly because I can't detune my car nor allow them to increase their power(if it can) to match mine. Anyone understand what I mean? Just give us the options PD, that's all we need, hopefully it's ingenious and easy to understand for simpler folk.

I have more on my mind, but this is what I'll leave you guys with to chew on for a lil bit.

 

[Danny]

I'd love the chance to put neons and spinners on an E-Type.

 

[TVRKing]

I'd love the chance to put neons and spinners on an E-Type.

No.

 

[Danny]

I reckon that'd look pretty cool.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

I hate spinners... no what what they are on
but if they include neons and spinners, I really won't care... as long as they slow your car down or something

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

When GT5 eventually comes out I would just like to at least be able to perform custom paint jobs like Forza had. Imagine Forza custom paint jobs with GT4 photomode. Would almost be a perfect simulation game. Oh yeah it would need Forzas physics too.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

I hate spinners... no what what they are on
but if they include neons and spinners, I really won't care... as long as they slow your car down or something

Right on! Neon should weigh you down and screw up the aerodynamics! And spinners? What use are they?? They add nothing for performance and they make the car look uglier...

I have a feeling Forza will be crap compared to GT5, but I assume GT4 will too. On the other hand, Forza 2 might be really good.

 

[Uncle Harry]

And also, the abilty to first tune NA and then add a turbo/SC for even more power. That is more in the line of real tuning. Also I would like a dyno, where you can fine tune your parts to work better together.

A NA tune usually raises the compression ratio to get more power.
When adding a turbo the compression ratio of the engine is kept stock or more usually lowered. The bigger the turbo the lower the compression ratio.
The two do not work well together. PD has it the right way.

 

[Dave A]

We should have the choice of turbo, supercharger or NA tune for every car though.

 

[SavageEvil]

We should have the choice of turbo, supercharger or NA tune for every car though.

That would be realistic but it's the liscencing issues with manufacturers you have to deal with, they will definately not want non-recommended modifications to their intellectual properties. So I think that may be down to liscenced tuners, like the inhouse manufacturers teams and big name tuners like Hennessey, Gemballa and the like. It's all about whether or not it's allowable according to the liscencing terms PD acquired, remember they do not have free reign to use the car as they see fit. It's all in the legal papers, to which we have no privy to.

 

[Dave A]

Yep thats true.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

need for speed gets licensing... its about time PD learns from them or something... no more excuses, not for me its do or die time for GT....

 

[Dave A]

Not to put turbo's on a TVR. I mean yeah it's not going to e a big deal with a lot of manufacturers but in the case of someone like TVR, I can see them refusing to let them have turbo's put on their cars.

 

[Uncle Harry]

That would be realistic but it's the liscencing issues with manufacturers you have to deal with, they will definately not want non-recommended modifications to their intellectual properties. So I think that may be down to liscenced tuners, like the inhouse manufacturers teams and big name tuners like Hennessey, Gemballa and the like. It's all about whether or not it's allowable according to the liscencing terms PD acquired, remember they do not have free reign to use the car as they see fit. It's all in the legal papers, to which we have no privy to.

Your point and I quote "they will definately not want non-recommended modifications to their intellectual properties"
Nearly all branded cars can be modified with HP upgrades that would cause a car exec many sleepless nights. So you are saying Holden agrees to let PD fit a stage 3 NA upgrade or a supercharger for 500+ hp, but has not licensed them to fit a turbo. Bull 🤬
I reckon it has to do more with technical considerations by PD of each car's engine. Obviously NA tune option on a WRX is not very realistic. Also neither are turbos on large capacity V8's. (Note I did not say impossible).
You want a NA Silvia buy the NA version, you want a turbo Silvia, buy the turbo model, dont say I want to NA my turbo, or turbo my NA.
I however do agree with you that you should be able to go to a specialised tuner and purchase whatever engine type you wish.
I just dont agree about the licensing issues. you did say yourself we have no idea what the licenses say.

 

[crimson_menace]

^Agreed.^

I'd like to be able to do that, as well as drivetrain swaps. FR Eclipses? Very possible.
That kind of tuning would be awesome...but again with the licensing...

 

[SavageEvil]

Your point and I quote "they will definately not want non-recommended modifications to their intellectual properties"
Nearly all branded cars can be modified with HP upgrades that would cause a car exec many sleepless nights. So you are saying Holden agrees to let PD fit a stage 3 NA upgrade or a supercharger for 500+ hp, but has not licensed them to fit a turbo. Bull 🤬
I reckon it has to do more with technical considerations by PD of each car's engine. Obviously NA tune option on a WRX is not very realistic. Also neither are turbos on large capacity V8's. (Note I did not say impossible).
You want a NA Silvia buy the NA version, you want a turbo Silvia, buy the turbo model, dont say I want to NA my turbo, or turbo my NA.
I however do agree with you that you should be able to go to a specialised tuner and purchase whatever engine type you wish.
I just dont agree about the licensing issues. you did say yourself we have no idea what the licenses say.

Let me try to explain this another way.

This is a videogame and the manufacturers always include long lists of stipulations of what can and can't be done to their cars. Play GT4 there are many cars which cannot equip turbos and vice versa for turbo only equip, for example the majority of BMW's can't equip turbos(but in real life you can bolt a turbo onto almost any engine am I right?). So it can be done in real life but not in GT4? I wonder why? There are cars in GT4 which can take either N/A tune or Turbos. You are forgetting that the tune shop in the game are MANUFACTURER tune shops, where they DO NOT stray from what they do in real life. When you buy your car and drive it off the lot, you can do whatever the hell you wish with it, but in this game you do not own a damn thing, the car, it's design and features are under liscence and PD are bound by it.

What I'm trying to say is everything that can be done in game to the car has to adhere to the liscencing agreements.

If it's isn't done in real life by the manufacturer, I think it's only fitting it's not done in game. If PD gets liscenced tuners/manufacturer ok, then we should see more true to life engine setups.

PS-Holden Monaro run on a Vette LS4 engine i believe, don't remember the last time GM had a factory tuned car with turbos added, seriously what sense would that make, lose all that low rpm torque for a lil top end speed, bah.

 

[nos2]

This is a good idea. Have a few licensed body kits and wings. I would love to have a Veilside kit on a 350Z. The custom graphics are not necessary, but it will be cool if we can put our custom logo onto the car. Like in Armored Core. And definitely bring back racing modification.

 

[Danny]

I'd like to put a body kit on an Aston Martin and a Dodge Charger. That would look really cool.

 

[TVRKing]

Not to put turbo's on a TVR. I mean yeah it's not going to e a big deal with a lot of manufacturers but in the case of someone like TVR, I can see them refusing to let them have turbo's put on their cars.

Maybe superchargers?

 

[Dave A]

You already can in GT4, only on the Speed 12 though, and even then it only brings the power to about what the car really has irl without one. I don't think they'd like supercharges on most of their cars either, the only TVR ever supercharged is the Typhon, the rest are all normally aspirated and it's one of the things TVR prides themselves on. No Turbo's, not fussy electronics, no nonsense, thats TVR.

 

[TVRKing]

You already can in GT4, only on the Speed 12 though, and even then it only brings the power to about what the car really has irl without one. I don't think they'd like supercharges on most of their cars either, the only TVR ever supercharged is the Typhon, the rest are all normally aspirated and it's one of the things TVR prides themselves on. No Turbo's, not fussy electronics, no nonsense, thats TVR.

True enough I guess.

 

[VQuick]

You already can in GT4, only on the Speed 12 though, and even then it only brings the power to about what the car really has irl without one. I don't think they'd like supercharges on most of their cars either, the only TVR ever supercharged is the Typhon, the rest are all normally aspirated and it's one of the things TVR prides themselves on. No Turbo's, not fussy electronics, no nonsense, thats TVR.

Of course. I mean, if someone really put a turbo on a Speed 12, it would probably blow up the world at only 4psi! Well, maybe not blow up the world, but at least change the rotation of the Earth. That wouldn't be good thing.

 

[Dave A]

The power output is still unknown, but it IS over 1000bhp right now. Before it was rated at 960bhp or 880bhp depending on which cams you had fitted (lumpy or smooth as they put it) but now the car runs more power than before and smooth.

 

[buickgnx88]

Two things:
1) The Tuner Company's modifications should give you more power than the factory tune-up parts, I mean isn't that the case in real life?
2)Forget Ricers, here's what GT5 needs! (Pictures of custom vans from Japan)

 

[SavageEvil]

The power output is still unknown, but it IS over 1000bhp right now. Before it was rated at 960bhp or 880bhp depending on which cams you had fitted (lumpy or smooth as they put it) but now the car runs more power than before and smooth.

And yet the car still isn't balanced enough to be anything more than a speeding bullet. I like cars with power, but some have made me understand the balance Maclaren F1. Still the best in my eyes, with the S7TT closing in, but i need to get some real world numbers on that car. But the original has been known for it's amazing balance and handling. Let's see if Saleen and the crew can pull out a winner second to none.

 

[crimson_menace]

Just so long as they've got the balls to keep them heaps up to par with all the other cars in 5.

 

[Dave A]

And yet the car still isn't balanced enough to be anything more than a speeding bullet. I like cars with power, but some have made me understand the balance Maclaren F1. Still the best in my eyes, with the S7TT closing in, but i need to get some real world numbers on that car. But the original has been known for it's amazing balance and handling. Let's see if Saleen and the crew can pull out a winner second to none.

Eh, were do you get that from. The Speed 12 will kill an F1 round the twisty stuff. It'll kill an S7TT too probably, the TVR Speed 12 has as much downforce as a GT1 race car. It has a wide track too, it's a fantastic handling car and not only the owner but also journalists that have driven it agree. It'll more than likely take corners faster than an Enzo, MC12 or Zonda F too.

 

[TVRKing]

Eh, were do you get that from. The Speed 12 will kill an F1 round the twisty stuff. It'll kill an S7TT too probably, the TVR Speed 12 has as much downforce as a GT1 race car. It has a wide track too, it's a fantastic handling car and not only the owner but also journalists that have driven it agree. It'll more than likely take corners faster than an Enzo, MC12 or Zonda F too.

👍

Although I must admit I'm a little bit sceptical when it comes to beating an F1 car.