I have 3 El Camino tunes, 1 at 500pp, 1 at 525pp with camber, and another 525pp without. The 525pp with camber is faster than the 63 Vette without camber. The 500pp is faster than a 500pp 63 Vette. And I have the 500 SS tires to try and give them equal yet extra grip. Even tried the 525s on RS tires. But this is why the way the 63 was modeled on game makes it the biggest disappointment to me. Not so much that the El Camino is that good as the Vette is that bad. Glad to see you back in 5 and 6, your post about GT5 got me to put it in and play that for a few days. So, thank you.