Buttkicker worth it?

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Yeah messing around with different positioning and mounting is the only way of getting the best for what you want prefer.

Try a wooden platform at your heel/foot section for the front BK instead of one actually attached to the same board as your inverted pedals.
Maybe if you feel it more through this it wont interfere with the CSP brake pedal?
 
Got paid yesterday! Ordered up a Clarke TT and an Audiosource 5.3A Monoblock AMP. So look for a good comparison between one of these guys and a buttkicker unit.
 
Excellent work btw you buy some amount of stuff, lol.

You either must be single or have a very easy going partner.
 
I emailed clark synthesis and unfortunately they don't have any dealers here in New Mexico (No shocker there). I was hoping to feel the experience first hand, I may have to wait till I travel to Texas (hunting trip) and visit a dealer then. Looking forward to Stega's comparison between the two units.
 
Mr Latte
Excellent work btw you buy some amount of stuff, lol.

You either must be single or have a very easy going partner.
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Yes I am single and have an excellent job that pays well. So yeah I end up with a lot of disposable income ;)

It seems a lot of those subharmonic equalizers have been discontinued I'm having some trouble finding them new.
 
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stega
Yes I am single and have an excellent job that pays well. So yeah I end up with a lot of disposable income ;)

It seems a lot of those subharmonic equalizers have been discontinued I'm having some trouble finding them new.
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Yeah hard to get is right, maybe like me ebay will have one at some point.
What Clarke model did you go for in the end?

btw Id research that amp as Ive seen some mixed reviews when I was researching the Clarkes.
Think the amp is also now disconitnued but of course may be still available.
Why not just use the BK amplifer to test first and look into more options but only if your a bit concerned, maybe their is a new model that a dealer could recommend?


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Mr Latte
Yeah hard to get is right, maybe like me ebay will have one at some point.
What Clarke model did you go for in the end?

btw Id research that amp as Ive seen some mixed reviews when I was researching the Clarkes.
Think the amp is also now disconitnued but of course may be still available.
Why not just use the BK amplifer to test first and look into more options but only if your a bit concerned, maybe their is a new model that a dealer could recommend?


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The Clark amp is not available any longer. I looked.

I ended up with the audiosource mono found a dealer with a few in stock on ebay.

Daddy's.com seems to have one of those Behringr ultrabass eq's used but never heard of the site... anyone know if its safe lol.

I went all out and got the platinum... ;) Figured I could always just turn it down. And could always use it in my living room.
 
hey guys, i was after a buttkicker gamer 2 but there is no Australian distributor, i emailed them and they weren't helpful, anyone know of a way i can get one, or where ?
 
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So I still have not tried out my Clark TT I am waiting until I can properly mount my seat on my 8020 frame.
But the Behringer ultrabasspro ex1200 I bought used came in today. And let me tell you so far this thing is very interesting, at first I was a little confused with how to install/use it properly. But I am getting a feel for how this thing works. I can really change the way my transducers respond with this thing. A great example

The LOW/ULTRA-LOW switch sets the subharmonic processor to produce either normal low subharmonics (1 octave) or ultra-low subharmonics (2 octaves). Use the ULTRA-LOW setting only if the used speaker system can handle extremely low frequencies.
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Stuff like that, really cool. Like I said I still really do not know what I am doing quite yet. But it seems to be very promising.
 
I am currently daisy chaining a buttkicker gamer 1 amp off the buttkicker gamer 2 amp output.......is it necessary to use a ground loop isolator between the gamer 2 amp and gamer one amp? or can I just run an audio cord from one amp to another without ground loop isolator?
 
CLIFFO

What are you trying to do exactly, you mention two BK amps but nothing about what transducer units your using?
Explain what you have and are trying to achieve so we can help better. If your taking a LFE feed into 1 amp and that amp also has a output to allow a secondary amp to be connected it should just be a case of connecting the 2nd amplifer in the same manner using the RCA in between both amps.

What does the manual say about this for your BK model?
 
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Mr Latte
CLIFFO

What are you try to do exactly, you mention two BK amps but nothing about what Transducer units your using?
Explain what you have and are trying to achieve so we can help better.

What does the manual say about this?
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I am using a gamer transducer on both amps, I have successfully daisy chained a buttkicker 1 amp to the output on the gamer 2 amp so I can run to transducers at once on my sim rig.

There is an input on the back of gamer2 amp for the sub out from receiver or audio out atc.....and an ouput so you can daisy chain up to 4 amps at once.

I just wanted to know if it is necessary to use a ground loop isolator between the gamer2 amp and gamer 1 amp?

Even though The gamer 1 amp will still work fine with or without ground loop isolator connected between the two amps, I just want to know which is the best option.
 
I dont think one will be needed but if they recommend such then it is likely to be in the manual.

On my own system their isnt a problem doing this with the BKA 300 amplifer or have any issues with unwanted hum or interferance.
 
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Yeah if you are not getting a hum then do not worry about it. If you do not have a hum then a ground loop isolator will not really give you any benefit.
 
Buttkicker Test Video...

For us Buttkicker and transducer fans check out this rather cool Ferrari F1 Helmet Cam video

Its pretty cool as you can feel the track, revs and the gearchanges.
 
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which buttkicker would you recommend for my cockpit..

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sega driving cab, mame, model 2 emulator ps2/3 compatible.. note, there isn't really any room under the seat for a bk gamer, nor is there anywhere to attach it. but, there is a subwoofer in the bottom of the seat from its arcade days, its wired up and sends bass through the chair..which is great.

however, the space behind the chair could accomodate a mini LFE or mini concert.., but i know they operate at different frequencies..

the rest of the sound system is a 5.1, with centre speaker unused- so really a 4.1 running off a pc sound card and small 5.1 pc amp. i have 2 speaker in the headrest and 1 each side of the monitor (and the bass in the seat base).


which buttkicker option would be best for my situation?
 
thesharkfactor
which buttkicker would you recommend for my cockpit..

sega driving cab, mame, model 2 emulator ps2/3 compatible.. note, there isn't really any room under the seat for a bk gamer, nor is there anywhere to attach it. but, there is a subwoofer in the bottom of the seat from its arcade days, its wired up and sends bass through the chair..which is great.

however, the space behind the chair could accomodate a mini LFE or mini concert.., but i know they operate at different frequencies..

the rest of the sound system is a 5.1, with centre speaker unused- so really a 4.1 running off a pc sound card and small 5.1 pc amp. i have 2 speaker in the headrest and 1 each side of the monitor (and the bass in the seat base).


which buttkicker option would be best for my situation?
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You could mount the LFE to the back of the chair like Stega did on his cockpit, see Stega's Mega Cockpit of Doom. He could tell you how it performed being mounted on the back. Is there access to the inside of the platform below the seat? It could be a possible area for mounting the LFE?
 
Ahaa, feeling the Buttkicker Bug.

I know you mentioned your cabinet has a sub but this will add extra depth particulary let you feel a deeper/stronger bass sensation.
In recommendation Id say you should consider 1x BKA 300 package including the amplifer etc. UK price approx £400

However 2x Mini LFE models are approx £200 UK price and then sourcing a decent 4ohm stereo amplifer will work out a bit cheaper but still give good results. For best results you will need a "Subwoofer LFE" output from the audio unit that powers your speakers. Not sure what you were using for that?

For placement if these were positioned within the base box,screwed to the wood near the back they would still privide a good feedback into the chair, no problems. Yes Attaching a unit directly to a chair will give a stronger effect but tbh for some that can be a bit too much and become a bit annoying. When you get these devices its all about testing for best positioning and having a go with the settings tweaking them.
 
thanks for that..

so you reckon 2x mini LFE's, one each side of the chair will do the job? i was looking to install just one, would using 2 give stereo buttkicking?.. sound intresting..

yes, i could install inisde the cabinet base, directly under or near the seat, easy.
 
I agree with Mr.Latte, I think the BKA300 would be the way to go. Secondly I think the LFE would be large enough that you would feel everything all the way to the pedals, and steering wheel. Particularly if you mounted it below the seat in the cabinet base.

You can still use the BKA300 amp without an LFE channel and just plug in the RCA connections from the PS3. For optimal output and performace I would recommend using an AV receiver with the Buttkicker for tuning. With that said, you would want to use HDMI connections, or at a minimum the optical connection to the AV reciever.
 
Its all quite dependent on what you want to spend.

£400 for the BKA 300 is a much higher price in UK than these are in USA.
For instance the BKA 300 is $299 on Amazon but they wont ship to UK, however thats approx £200 so half the price us Brits have to pay...

I researched into this myself last year based on jswilli getting me interested in them. When you find a place that does export to UK by the time you add on the shipping, import duty and VAT then the saving is likely to be under £100 but with the disadvantage of having no warrenty.

Having two less powerful units has positives and negatives.
As mentoned this could be cheaper and ran from a 2nd hand hifi amplifer or a budget DJ/PA amplifer using 4ohms. You could even start with one BK Mini at £100 and a amp for about £80. So a total of two units with an amp is about £280 compared to the £400 for the BKA 300.

The BKA 300 will have more smacks for your money but with two smaller units you can achieve a smoother and wider spread of the rumble effect. So less impact but more scope. Of course you could consider using 1 Mini LFE at the seat and the other near the pedals so I guess you have to think do I want to spend more have the benifits of the wireless capability of the BKA 300 and a remote control instead...

I think either option will make you happy but I wouldnt rate the gamer as a great option for what you have and this would only be about £30 cheaper than a decent stereo amp and Mini LFE will cost.

Hope its of some help and worth considering.
 
This is a great thread. 👍 Thank you for the information.

I do have a question.

I am starting my rig with a BobEarl/VRC Sparco rig (I like the position...having driven karts and formula cars quite a few years ago, plus it compacts down very nicely). I am looking at the gamer2 but I am curious if it can be disassembled to mount directly on the seat instead of the frame?

I need a somewhat easy, straight forward setup as it needs to be put away when not in use and the ability to use it on several tv/computer/console setups.

Thank you!!!
 
SwissMD
This is a great thread. 👍 Thank you for the information.

I do have a question.

I am starting my rig with a BobEarl/VRC Sparco rig (I like the position...having driven karts and formula cars quite a few years ago, plus it compacts down very nicely). I am looking at the gamer2 but I am curious if it can be disassembled to mount directly on the seat instead of the frame?

I need a somewhat easy, straight forward setup as it needs to be put away when not in use and the ability to use it on several tv/computer/console setups.

Thank you!!!
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Here is a Video for attaching a BK2 to a Playseat Evo, maybe it can help? Can you post a picture of your rig? Do you want to mount it to the back or bottom of your seat? I use a BKA300 were the transducer sits on a base and can be moved from my cockpit or back to the couch. I recently hard mounted it to the bottom of my cockpit and the feedback is far better than the portable mount I used before.

 
I've got a Gamer 2 hooked up to my seat and I also have a futon with a tubular steel frame that the BK2 clamps to as well for movies.
 

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