Can you do the nurburgring without crashing or spinning out

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I used to hate it. Yes hate it. My first nurburgring was forced upon me by some a spec championship. I took 18 min rearranging the Armco and lawn mowing with my Mazda furai. I gold the rest. First thought was that my furai is damaged. Second tot, this **** is impossible. Now I am better after the real world circuit seasonal. Still lawn mow at times but clean lap with minolta comes occasionally. I starting to love this track. It's refreshing, challenging and fun.
 
8 months ago, when I bought this game at A-0, never had played GT games before, only to have heard this track through grapevines, never seen in it its entirety either (I don't youtube either),

ff to today, this is now my favorite track, and don't let the 73 uniquely different corners discourage you, for every 3 laps you do on this track (all aids off, get the driving line OFF, ABS optional, brake balance 4/5 for safety) ; you will learn and appreciate the sections that YOU can tame the car with, as well as respect the few sections that THE TRACK will tame you and any car you choose.

I may have driven it virtually at least 250-500 laps by now, and still get "penalized" for pushing some limits too far, but the enjoyment of knowing when and how of this track, will easily become second nature to you, until you go online only to get destroyed by people (Europeans conceived on the Carousel) that are still, 25% better than you! It's a learning process, but in amonths time, you can lap 5 laps with a minor incident here and there.

My driving style requires me to find that car that can take me around the ring, as fast, and as safe as possible, (excluding the fake x2010). Favorites are: BMW GTR race car, BMW McClaren F1, any Vauxhall / Opel Astra touring car, Ruf RGT, Nissan Yellowhat, Arta NSX '00 , to name a few.

Havent read it yet much, but: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2511327/Guide-to-the-Nordschleife
 
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Just took a stock standard 350z (Ok, it did have double clutch, supercharger, sport exhaust, sport filter, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, fixed suspension, sport flywheel and carbon prop shaft) around the ring on sports hard tyres and real track edge.
Its puny 300+ Hp coupled with its 1400kg body made for an interesting lap. Managed an 8:11.XXX then on the second lap cut one of the first few corners so I gave in (Building a replica Exige which will also go round the 'ring when its time is right).
I recommend trying this. You really realise how much grip there is in different parts of the track, and how far you can push something with this little grip and large weight.
 
The 'ring is really rough in places and running at 150+ mph you tend to lose traction due to the car hitting lots of small bumps too fast. I crash a lot on it but with the right setup and pay a lot of attention to what part you're on and try not to open it up full throttle, it gets better.
 
Never did before but thanks to numerous laps online in various cars only the really hard to drive ones can catch me out now! :)
 
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Well, in first place, until you know superficially the track, you should use the racing line. Many corners at the Ring have special camber i.e. negative camber, others no camber at all, others different cambers at left half and right half of the track. Many times the question isn't corner speed or throttle control, you are just the wrong side of the track, because you chose a racing line that seemed more logical and the profile of the track betrayed you.
The question of "slow cars" isn't exactly that, but because of the bumps and tight track, ultra low ride height cars are more sensitive to be thrown to the wall or the grass :)
In GT4, with LMP/Group C or Formula GT it was quite hard, but with a GT car quite manageable.
You have to realise that it's a +22 km and 170 corners track, requires more training then a 5km 10 turns track to learn

Edit: Usually it helps raising ride height a little compared to other tracks
 
Mostly yes, unless I'm driving a yellowbird or an F40 etc. In that case, I can't guarantee anything.
So true...with the yellowbird I just pray that I make it to the finish line. With other cars I hardly ever crash.
 
At first no, but as I get used to the car and the track I can do better and cleaner laps without any off-road detours. You get a great feeling when you pull of a fast lap without crashing.
 
Yes I can, my tip is:

First do a mid speed lap to understand how the car behavior and then push a little more in the next lap. Do it consecutively lap over lap until you find that limit where you can drive fast without go off the track
 
Yeah I can do that. My advice is to take it easy on sections you don't know... Then slowly get faster and faster til you're on the limit...
 
Funny to see topics like this...after all the sub 7 minute challenge ones and lap time tables :P
DURP I can.
 
had practised this track alot in GT4 (truly, drove around it with almost every car in the game)
In GT5 I am about to do the same but havent yet started, last time I drove it around I used Stock VW Beetle '49 with sports medium, took ages but I managed to beat my first lap time by 20 seconds.
 
yes but not often. with lower hp road cars a clean lap is easy. pushing hard or just cruising. however I crash often with some higher hp cars, lmp or race cars. lmp without aids on the ring is tough
 
Funny to see topics like this...after all the sub 7 minute challenge ones and lap time tables :P
DURP I can.

👍 totally agree.




My tip is only one: practice (and repeat ad nausea) :sly:
 
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All throughout GT4 and my month with Forza 3, I couldn't do a single clean lap of the 'ring. Most of GT5 up until about two months ago I still couldn't, but then something clicked and I find it pretty straightforward now, as long as I'm not driving anything too extreme. I tend to avoid racing softs, though, so maybe I'd do alright with them in a GT1/Group C/LMP car. Anything more than a silhouette touring car, though, and I'm done.

Also I got Race 07 and whichever DLC added the 'ring, and the very first time I went out on it I did what I would call an incredible lap (driving right on the edge of my abilities, so probably not that great by most peoples' standards) in a Vertigo race car. It was weird, obviously it's the same track, but I applied the exact same principles as I would use in GT5 and just did this great lap first time, even though the physics are far more challenging in Race than GT5.

Still, I don't like driving it too often, I prefer to do shorter laps when testing cars because then you don't have to wait quite so long to compare laps or set up the car after a lap. In other words, I do a lot of laps at Tsukuba...
 
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I think the biggest problem with the nurb is when you're racing people, a lot of them will try to overtake you at place you simply can't without pushing the other car into the grass.

For me the hardest skill to gain on the nurb is the ability to pass people cleanly. If you can master that you're a true nurb racer.

Yeah and i always accidently drive two wheels on the grass and then that spins me out
Pain in the grass
 
Don't worry; everyone's spun out at least once:dunce:
It took me 2 GT games to even just get aquainted with the 'ring:drool:
 
I can; partly because of my appreciation of the track, and with recognition to the AMG events as a good training tool. It really helps to break the track down in sections and work with them a bit at a time.
 
I know i definetly can't i always push it too hard shout Damn! And keep going
It's rare for me to get it right unless its a slow car
Start with slower cars, learn the track and rhythm, then work your way up the power ladder.
 
I can; partly because of my appreciation of the track, and with recognition to the AMG events as a good training tool. It really helps to break the track down in sections and work with them a bit at a time.

+1 Found this to be the best way to learn the track.
 
The problem with the ring is that it has off camber corners, sudden elevation changes, narrow tarmac and very tall curbs. A good piece of advice would be: Slow down for the jumps and bumps (crucially Flugplatz, the long right hander after the first real jump on the track), calculate your line in order to avoid the curbs, they are tall and will send you off the track with any hard damped car ( racing cars in general, the Furai is good example ) and mostly, overuse the slow in fast out mantra. It might sound a little bit cheesy, but having a composed and soft line is much faster than powering through the track with your pants on fire. Watching real life footage helps too, since you can see where the trouble is and which lines to take.

When you start memorizing the names of the corners, you'll realize you have already turned into a 'ring freak. :lol:

I'm just an average driver on GT5, but I can put up a good fight against skilled racers on that track, I love it. It's half the reason I've bought the game, if not more than that.
 
I probably could if I concentrated enough, but there's always a couple of corners ill miss judge.
 
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