Can't wait to race online

[cobragt]

Man I seriously hope PD gets some cool LM cars. I want them all.I want all the JGTC cars.

BTW
Looks like I was right about the ps2 being more powerful than some ppl cough live4speed cough thought
Nuff said

 

[Satorian]

You are right about the cars.


But I think the unnamed title in your link may actually be GT3.

 

[cobragt]

Yea and ppl here don't believe gt3 used 25% of the ps2's power.

 

[Dave A]

Do not start this again, and what does that comment have to do with the thread title. Believe what you want to beleive, your only 12 so I'm not going to jump on you.

 

[T5-R]

lol cobra you really are a first class muppet.

 

[Dave A]

Just leave him to be that way, he doesn't listen to anyone here and it's pointless arguing, it'll end up with him just calling everyone stupid idiot's like last time. Remeber he's only 12 so he probably wanted to look big or somthing, still no excuse though.

 

[cobragt]

Meh.

 

[cobragt]

I have proven what I wanted so lets all move on. I can not wait for gt4, hope the bentley speed8 is in it.

 

[HsV_CoUpE]

What the feck dose this have to do with online play? The two words have not even been mentioned in this thread yet...pointless...you say moving on...YOUR TALKING ABOUT WHAT CARS YOU WANT IN THE GAME...you know what, your a 'stoopid idiot'

 

[Rport03]

how could you say move on if your still making dumb threads about THE EXACT SAME THING every single time, im really suprised you havent been banned yet for making the same threads over and over and yet they get closed and you still keep at it, I dunno maybe you should of taken your idea weeks ago or when your last threads was closed and it was all nice and peaceful here.. Anyways if this thread is about online play why are you talking about the PS2 and what car you want doesnt make any such sense..

Back to topic.... I mean let me actually start it first.. which car are you all hoping to drive first online, and which s/n are you gonna use.... since the thread is already open lets just talk about something worth talking about...

 

[Dave A]

Originally posted by cobragt
I have proven what I wanted

With all respect, but you've proven **** all.

I will be driving whatever car I buy first online, if GT2's anything to go by it will probably be an old Supra twin turbo or an FTO. I'm really hoping for online series races and total customisation of car restrictions so you can make it a one model race if you want or a 1000Bhp Japanese sports race ect.

 

[lil_viper]

Originally posted by cobragt
Man I seriously hope PD gets some cool LM cars. I want them all.I want all the JGTC cars.

Why would you want ALL the JGTC cars? I could understand one of each but not all. They're the same cars (Skylines, Supras, NSX's, etc.) It would just be a waste of disk space that could be used on other things.

 

[Dave A]

No, the Calsonic and the Xanavi are the same cars, all PD need to do is change the textures used on them and change the name of the car in the garage, showroom ect.

 

[lifestream]

Uh... anywways sticking with the thread title....

Online racing isn't going to be that fun honestly. While it seems like a welcome addition to the GT Seriers, have you ever played other online racing games like Live for Speed? This game uses some pretty complex lag prediction methods, UDP packets etc... so its pretty efficient, and the lag is pretty bad in some cases.

And Playonline doesn't have much experience in the online realm like X-Box does and such. Perfect example... Ive been playing Final Fantasy XI for a while now, and they didn't even bother to put up servers in the USA. So I mean unless u hear about servers going up in places other then Asia, I wouldn't hype it up so much. I was getting 100-500ms ping reply times during non peak hours, so I mean once GT4 is out you'll have a huge increase in in server load, and a decrease in quick ping reply, which means ur cars are gonna be jumping all over the place, or at least inaccurately placing ur car on the track which means valuable seconds lost

*shrug*

 

[RacingFreak2k3]

I have also played many online games....and some tend to be pretty laggy....but I remember at E3...when GT4 was barely in production....many said that online was smooth, but sometimes the car would flicker for just a split second. And knowing PD's capabilities with games, unlike other companies...and since Kazunori is such a perfectionist....i believe this could be one of the best online games ever. PD also said they wouldn't release online unless they could get rid of most of the lag.

 

[MistaY]

Originally posted by RacingFreak2k3
I have also played many online games....and some tend to be pretty laggy....but I remember at E3...when GT4 was barely in production....many said that online was smooth, but sometimes the car would flicker for just a split second. And knowing PD's capabilities with games, unlike other companies...and since Kazunori is such a perfectionist....i believe this could be one of the best online games ever. PD also said they wouldn't release online unless they could get rid of most of the lag.

But that wasn't on the internet, that was through a LAN. I'm not to interested in the netplay, but if they allow you to do a local lan game that will be awesome.

 

[Dave A]

Online racing is fantastic in Live for speed, it's a hell of alot better than the single player game. I think PD will pull it off, I'm not suprised FFXI has no servers in the US yet, there should be some in place soon though. GT4 will probably have servers up on it's release day or atleast within the first week on the shelves. Make no mistake, Sony want GT4 to be the killer online title weve been waiting for on PS2 and I have no doubt the KY will want it better than PGR2's online which is supposed to be brilliant.

 

[lifestream]

Heh, I guess looking it from a positive angle like that live4speed is a good way to see things. But I've played many many online games before. And racing games require even faster ping replys then FPS for a really good game. Usually good FPS games run well at 30ms ping, so youd think a racing game would have to run at that as well, prefereably quicker, which is pretty much impossible cause its very hard to get that kinda ping in the first place, and that would mean something like every state would need their own server(s) to reduce the amount of hops ( hopefully ) it takes that packet of data to get to the other players for more efficient racing. Especially for drifters who are planning on trying tandem drifts, and people who are in a very tight race. It wouldn't be cool to be drifting/racing side by side and then all of a sudden the car shifts cause of lag.

Unfortunately a server in every state isnt that economical, I'm pretty sure they'd prefer to save money and make people race in lag. Its a possibility to see a few servers on east/west/mid of the USA. Although Playonline has no plans to move servers to the USA for plays in FFXI. Who knows maybe GT4 will force them too... althrough I doubt it. Those buisness people are very thrifty.

When people complain about lag they will leave a generic letter for us to read online saying that they are working ever so hard to make the best experience possible. Although this seems negative, this occurs all the time

 

[T5-R]

Well ping doesn't really matter as long as it isn't too big but what often causes lag is when connection becomes unstable.

I've played Live for Speed anywhere from 50-120 ping & its been fine for me, also I've played Toca Race Driver @ 90 ping which has been fine. And that is on PC where you have to contend with different Hardware combos...

PD should be able to do it no probs on PS2, I doubt its down to how much data the connection can take but rather how much processing the PS2 will be able to handle passing data back & forth to players. Especially if one player hosts the game when others join which I believe is how PGR2 online works & most other games. Also alot cheaper for Sony as they would only have to host a handful of servers, to merely direct players.

 

[code_kev]

"BTW
Looks like I was right about the ps2 being more powerful than some ppl cough live4speed cough thought
"
BW AHAHAHAHAHAHA, I thought this was a thread on online play?!?!?!?

remember, cobra is the guy who thinks running stuff in software is better then hardware...It's weird cobra, I have my ps2, xbox and pc side by side, and hell i may be stupid, but i swear games look better on my xbox and pc...

anyway, GT4 online should be sweet, i wont be playing it, but online content is allways a plus in my book!

"Yea and ppl here don't believe gt3 used 25% of the ps2's power"

thats because we arn't retarded.


http://dcmovies.ign.com/media/news/video/dcvsps2/dcvsps2dc.mov

(its crap, but meh, I laughed as it's partially true)

 

[cobragt]

Now that was funny. Are there anyonther vids like that?

 

[HsV_CoUpE]

project gothems online racing is brilliant. GT4 i suspect will be no different.

 

[Rezonance]

This may have already been addressed in another thread, so apologies if I'm being redundant. Has anyone heard if there will be headset communication between drivers in online play, like SOCOM, etc? Trash talking the other drivers while racing would sure enhance the online experience.

Rez.

 

[oxygenuk]

Originally posted by Rezonance
This may have already been addressed in another thread, so apologies if I'm being redundant. Has anyone heard if there will be headset communication between drivers in online play, like SOCOM, etc? Trash talking the other drivers while racing would sure enhance the online experience.

Rez.

i sure hope they do , and after its PD ya can only expect the best from them hehe

 

[Satorian]

Last thing I heard in a video interview with Kaz was, that there will be no voicechat during the races as the PS2 can't handle it.

During pre-game setup and in the lounge it may be possible.

 

[Dave A]

"GT4 will not support the USB headset", thats what KY has said.

 

[oxygenuk]

looks like it might just be the keyboard then if thats even compatible lol

 

[HsV_CoUpE]

Keyboard? im fine with that then you don't have to worry about not understanding people who don't speak clearly

 

[Dave A]

I might just have to buy a keyboard, it's no good having a whole GT4 community and not being able to get involved fully. Is everyone planning to use the usernames they have here in GT4? I am, the only racing game I don't is live for speed, I didn't think it would've fit in too well.

 

[liquidyellow]

I cant wait for GT4 online I wonder how it will all work? Will we be able to have GTPlanet teams etc..?