Clueless, over The Hill Outlaws - OP Updated 06/10/14

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by CyKosis1973, Dec 6, 2013.

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  2. Michelin

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    No problem! :cheers:
     
  3. covan2306

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    Used this set-up minus the engine upgrades on the new seasonal, worked just fine.
    Thanks
     
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  4. krenkme

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    Great :tup:... A new TT setup (gearing suspension and parts) will be posted in the next few hours. I hope you try that as well :dopey:
     
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    Made for the Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster time trial Feb. 27th 2014

    Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster
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    296hp
    430pp
    weight 1600 Kg

    parts
    Oil Change
    Sport Hard Tires
    Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
    Racing Brakes
    Fully Custom Transmission
    Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
    Triple Plate Clutch
    Carbon Shaft
    Supercharger


    ABS = 1
    everything else off

    Tune
    Ride Hight - Front: 100 Rear: 110
    Spring Rate- Front: 7.00 Rear: 4.40
    Compression- Front: 3 Rear: 2
    Extension- Front: 2 Rear: 4
    Anti-roll Bars- Front: 3 Rear: 1
    Camber- Front: 0.0 Rear: 0.0
    Toe Angle- Front: -0.20 Rear: 0.15
    Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 5

    Gearing
    Final Gear - 5.000
    Top Speed - 124
    1st - 3.200
    2nd - 2.100
    3rd - 1.700
    4th - 1.400
    5th - 1.140
    Final - 4.030

    LSD - 12/11/15

    Power Limiter - 94.8%

    Weight Adjustment - 100@ 50

    TUNER NOTES -
    Just use this as a base. All drivers have there own style, but this might help you along the way :dopey:
     
  6. Thorin Cain

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    Hey @Theo777.
    Nice job on the Nova.:tup: I tried this out last night and had so much fun :D

    Keep up the great work!
     
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    Mazda MX5 Miata 1600 NR-A (NB, J) '04- MUCH MX5, VERY ORANGE

    [Picture to come…you can guess what colour it is without me saying, right?]

    Source and Parts list:
    Buy from: Dealership
    Oil Change: No
    Chassis reinforcement: No

    Paintjob: Very Orange
    Wheels: Rays 57gainer


    Weight Reduction Stage 2
    Window weight reduction

    Engine Stage 3
    Intake Manifold
    Supercharger

    Transmission: F/C
    Clutch: Triple plate
    Carbon Drive Shaft
    Fully Adjustable LSD

    Suspension: F/C
    Racing Brakes

    Tires: SH

    The Tune
    Ballast weight : 1kg
    Power Limiter : 90.8%


    Transmission
    Top Speed: 99, Final Gear: 2.500
    1st: 4.050
    2nd: 2.895
    3rd: 2.204
    4th: 1.734
    5th: 1.394


    Approximate Top Speed: 140mph
    LSD
    Initial: 5
    Acceleration: 12
    Braking: 7

    Suspension
    Ride height: 85/85
    Spring rate: 7.45/6.20
    Dampers (Compression): 4/3
    Dampers (Extension): 8/6
    Anti-roll bars: 4/5
    camber: 0.0/0.0
    Toe angle: -0.15/0.05
    Brake balance: 5/5

    ABS: 1
    Everything else: OFF
    tuned with a DS3

    The car has 437 PP, weighs 925Kg with a 50/50 front/rear weight
    distribution, has a power to weight ratio of 4.62 kg/hp, has 200 HP
    @5800 rpm and produces 198.1 ft-lb torque @4800 rpm
     
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  8. Woodski_427

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    I'm slowly trying to add a few pics where I've written about the cars, starting with the Toyota 2000.
     
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  9. NEWDRIVER2

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    Nice picture my friend showing how worst my tune on this car :lol: I love it looks good also . :tup:
     
  10. Woodski_427

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    Yes, sorry about that. had some technical issues with the other pics :boggled:. Hopefully now a more balanced view should anyone peruse the thread :lol:. It really is a great drive.

    I've also put in a pic of Desperado's TTS, and ACSR's Abarth on the same post.

    And a cheeky shot of the Suzuki Alto from @Niku Driver HC and Ronald6's Blitzen 'Nynaeve'.
     
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  11. CyKosis1973

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    This has been doing the rounds on my social media feed, thought you guys might like it. It's from some ime last year, but there maybe a few of you who haven't seen it yet...
    @praiano63
     
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    Nice vid @CyKosis1973, thanks for sharing.:cheers:
    That must have been something to behold in the flesh, quite the technical accomplishment:tup:
     
  13. CyKosis1973

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    Thanks, thought it worth sharing. Had a lump in my throat watching that, think I would have choked had I actually been there...

    {Cy}
     
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    I hear that! It was almost as bad as watching the movie, that had me almost in tears for the duration.
     
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    @CyKosis1973 nice video brother :tup: good to see you back again .
     
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  16. CyKosis1973

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    That it is, my friend. I hope to be back in the game soon, still need to take care of some things at home though :tup:

    {Cy}
     
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    It looks like the garage has been keeping busy with fresh tunes while I was out. I took a bit of time off from GT but I'm thinking of trying to reclaim some night and weekend tuning and driving time. Expect some form of quirky tunes to be released soon!

    @krenkme That Plymouth concept looks fun! I'll have to try that time trial if it is still available.

    @Thorin Cain I'm glad you like the Nova! I always love pushing the limits of the old muscle cars. I know that eventually I'll get around to tuning more vintage classics.

    @CyKosis1973 That video gave me goose bumps and was the best light show I've seen in awhile!
    PS: Good luck to the COTHO MX-5 shootout participants!:tup:
     
  18. Theo777

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    Nissan Bluebird 1600 Deluxe (510) '69
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    Here is a quick little sedan I built just to get back into the swing of tuning. This 510 turbo was tuned at Trial Mountain but seems at home on lower-mid speed circuits. The transmission settings are only good for about 120mph so, lower the final drive if you want the bluebird to fly. A wide range of tires can be equipped anything from safe sports tires to the fun comfort mediums. This car now has the looks and just enough performance that it might surprise a sports car or two.

    GT Version: 1.04
    Performance Points: 400 PP
    Max Power: 177 HP
    Torque: 149 ft-lbs
    Weight: 930 kg
    Front/Rear Weight Distribution: 55 : 45
    Drivetrain: FR
    Power Limiter: 100.0%
    Power to Weight: 5.25 kg/HP

    Tires: CM-SS

    Performance Parts
    No Oil Change!
    Suspension Kit: Height Adjustable, Fully-Customizable
    Transmission: Fully-Customizable Dog-Clutch
    Fully Customizable Mechanical LSD
    Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
    Carbon Drive Shaft
    Engine Tuning Stage 2
    Sports Computer
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Intake Tuning
    High RPM Range Turbo Kit
    Weight Reduction Stage 1
    Paint: Issel Blue Pearl
    Wheels: Inch Up:2 RAYS 57Gainer
    Wheel Paint: Bright Silver Metallic

    Suspension Kit
    Ride Height: 120 / 120
    Spring Rate: 6.22 / 4.64
    Compression: 5 / 4
    Extension: 3 / 3
    Anti-Roll: 5 / 5
    Camber: 0.2 / 0.0
    Toe: -0.04 / 0.07

    Brake Disc & Calipers:
    Standard: Brake Balance: 5/5

    Differential Gear
    LSD Rear: 6 / 11 / 10

    Transmission
    Top Speed: 118 mph
    1st: 3.783
    2nd: 2.350
    3rd: 1.825
    4th: 1.397
    5th: 1.113
    Final Gear: 3.350 adjust to taste

    Performance Upgrades
    Aero: 0 / 0
    Ballast: 66kg / +50

    Happy Driving!
    [​IMG]
     
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  19. NEWDRIVER2

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    Hello my friends
    @Theo777 Good to see you back with this tune :tup: I will try that one as I'm tuning those days some cars at this rang on NURB RING .

    I have a tune for NURB RING using CS Tiers and 400PP , this car tuning on online racing mode and the lap time is 8:27.xxx from starting point on race mode without draft .
    And 8:22.xxx lap time on online mode time attack .
    Can any one say to me is it good time or not please . If not I will work more on it but if its good i will post it by today . For my opinion this car in my hand is the fastest 400PP CS car over all others , I wish I hear from you . Thanks

    ND
     
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    Post it. :p ;)
     
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    Means the lap time is good ?
    I will call it KNIGHT RIDER
     
  22. danbojte

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    Of course it is. :tup:
     
  23. Woodski_427

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    *wonders if there are a few interesting 400pp tunes and races coming up* :)
     
  24. Ronald6

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    Don't worry @Woodski_427, as soon as ND posts Knight Rider you'll find satisfaction.
    Two words: mind control. Don't bother steering with a controller or wheel, just think where you want the car to go and it'll do it. I had a top 3 race Of All Time (echoing: time time time...) earlier today and it was in and against Knight Rider.

    I think ND is now at the same level as MCH and Praiano.
     
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    Hi my friend , I will post the 400PP CS in hours and we will race it today together online same time we used to be on :tup:

    Wow , that's more than what I think on my tunes , I can't be like those great guys , I'm far away from that . I'm just average tuner get lucky on number editor . Thank you my friend that's means a lot for me . :tup:

    ND
     
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  26. Woodski_427

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    :tup: hoping to get on tonight for some humiliation :lol:
     
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  27. DolHaus

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    @Ronald6


    (ds3, ABS 1, Grand Valley 10 laps)

    Subaru Legacy B4 Blitzen '00


    Low Speed Corner:
    Entry:
    Very stable but does understeer on the brakes, a little unwilling to rotate at times
    Mid: A ton of grip, feels a little heavy but it doesn't cause any major problems
    Exit: No drama, just grips and goes
    Comments: You need to be careful on entry because the car is so stable that understeer will develop if you try and push too hard, once you have figured out your entry speed and turning point its fine and extremely predictable.


    Mid Speed Corner:
    Entry:
    A little bit of understeer but nothing unusual or unmanageable
    Mid: Great grip, holds its line well and remains progressive
    Exit: No drama, stays stable under acceleration and gets the power down well
    Comments: Feels fairly good in mid speed bends, nice and balanced, a little bit of understeer on entry but that is to be expected with most 4wd's. If you can be progressive with the power it keeps the nose pointed where you want it and doesn't drag wide.


    High Speed Corner
    Entry:
    No real problems, hint of understeer
    Mid: Plenty of grip and holds line well
    Exit: No drama, just grips and goes, can develop a little more understeer if you push too hard
    Comments: Nothing to say here really, the car performs well without any difficulties or surprises but can show its weight if you try to carry too much speed through a bend.

    Tune Comments: Overall its a very stable and easy to drive car, rarely does anything to surprise, just grips and goes. For me it felt a little too stable which prevented me pushing any harder, it suits a very clean and clinical style of driving and would be good for long races but don't expect this thing to be lighting up the timing screens on a hot lap.

    I think the differentials are causing a few of the understeer problems, I ran it with the stock diff for comparison and it felt a lot livelier and easier to push. The suspension feels spot on though, I was expecting more understeer but it felt pretty nimble.
     
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  28. NEWDRIVER2

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    Clueless over The Hill Outlaws
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    KNIGHT RIDER
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    LOTUS ELISE '96
    400PP COMFORT SOFT
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    Comfort Soft tires
    ONLINE it will go with you any where what ever you ORDER IT TO GO .
    OFFLINE the same as what I wrote up but maybe you will found little under steer .
    Tuned to enjoy the time Driving it and to have some FUN

    NO OIL CHANGE
    Date Acquired : 10/01/2014
    Wheel : Inch 2 ( RAYS 57Xtreme )
    Car Paint : Obsidian Black Pearl
    Distance Driven = 310,8 Miles
    Displacement = 1,796cc
    Performance points = 400PP
    Max. Power = 144 BHP/ 6,500 rpm
    Max. Torque = 19,2 Kgfm/ 3,500 rpm
    Drivetrain = MR
    Weight = 902kg
    Weight dis =50:50
    Power/weight = 6,26 kg/BHP
    Power Limiter =99,1%

    ABS= 1
    Everything else = off
    Tuned with wheel G27
    Controller sensitive = 0
    Online room settings
    Tyre/FuelNormal
    Grip. Real
    Slipstream Real
    Surface water at race (0)%

    Parts :

    Aero Kits Type A
    Rear Wing Custom Wing-Type A
    Suspension Height-Adjustable , Fully-customization
    Race brakes Kit
    Transmission Fully customizable
    LSD kit
    Triple plate clutch Kit
    Racing Exhaust
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Body Weight stage 1
    Carbon Bonnet body colour
    Window weight Reduction

    Tires:


    Wheel Inch 2 RAYS 57Xtreme
    Paint = Austin Yellow
    Comfort Soft tires


    Suspension:

    Height= 90 / 90
    Springs= 5.00 / 6.97
    Dampers(c)= 3 / 4
    Dampers(e)= 3 / 5
    Anti roll bars= 5 / 4
    Camber= 0.0 / 0.0
    Toe Angle= -0.14 / 0.08
    Brake= 3 / 2

    LSD

    Initial Torque 10
    Acceleration Sensitivity 14
    Braking Sensitivity 16

    Downforce= 15
    Ballast= 200 KG @ -37 %

    setup the transmission after you buy all the parts .

    Transmission:


    Reset to Default
    Then Final Gear 5.000
    Then Top Speed 112mph
    Gears:
    1st = 3.242
    2nd = 2.350
    3rd = 1.780
    4th = 1.366
    5th = 1.070
    Final gear again to : 3.400 or 3.450

    This gear box made on NURB RING .

    Final gear 3.400 is for more draft speed on the back of the others cars and I don't think you need that :lol:

    Final gear 3.450 is for attacking the corner and the track without help from other cars draft .


    Tuned for Taking down any car at the rang of 400PP CS ON NURB RING
    BEST LAP TIME 1:22.678 ( time attack on my Hand )
    BEST LAP TIME 1:26.986 ( Online Race )

    [​IMG]


    This is the fastest car you will drive ever on NURB RING :sly:
    As always Corner Survive (Slow in / Fast out) :tup: Is the secret of any tune I do it .


    HOPE YOU ENJOY THE KNIGHT RIDE

    Note
    You can use the tune on this car for another version of the Elise with higher PP .

    ND
     
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  29. Ronald6

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    @DolHaus :
    Thanks for the great review. Very informative.

    Yes, understeer can be a problem with this car. I thought it was best to try to mitigate its reaction rather than eliminate it completely, which would neuter the car.

    The stability, and its ensuing blandness comes from the fact I don't like over active cars when racing online. Especially on Nordy with its narrow and anti-flat track.

    I'll take a look at the LSD again, see if I can make the car livelier. (After I test Ridoxs' Honda and your Mitsu Evolution, but before I tune the Stratos Rally car. And, oh yeah, after the wife and I go shopping for another Subaru. {I wonder what her name will be, Egwene? Ahvienda?})
     
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    The understeer isn't a massive problem but it does hamper your entry speed needlessly and could be quite easily solved by playing with the front diff, the rear feels fine as it is but might benefit from a slightly lower initial to allow for greater rotation when not on the power. If you stick the stock diff back on for comparison I'm sure you'll see what I mean, overall grip is roughly the same but the car feels more nimble and willing. In my experiece you can throw some fairly extreme diff settings on 4wd cars of this power level without losing stability