Corvette C7 Test Prototype ’13 DLC Out Now!

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Speed XII
I totally mentioned oversteer/understeer here, right?

[PS. IM BEEING SARCASTIC]

Avg. GTP user version (simple yo'):
I never mentioned oversteer/understeer in the post above, so stop adding words to my posts. Thx
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So understeer and oversteer aren't related to handling characteristics? What are you on about?

I'm quite interested in your definition on handling characteristics, given you are the 1% of GTPers who actually know how to drive.
 
Speed XII
Short answer: no.

Long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, read bellow;


I totally mentioned oversteer/understeer here, right?

[PS. IM BEEING SARCASTIC]

Avg. GTP user version (simple yo'):
I never mentioned oversteer/understeer in the post above, so stop adding words to my posts. Thx






Reffering to the first line of text in question.
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Not sure what you're trying to tell me here by quoting me. Please explain.
 
Well, the correct entry speed is kinda important, because it's hard to correct if you go a bit wide. The suspension is a bit soft and yes, it tends to understeer, but it makes sense, it's a road car and set up like one. It feels exactly like I imagined and actually think the suspension model is more advanced than in a lot of cars from the game.
 
1241Penguin
So understeer and oversteer aren't related to handling characteristics? What are you on about?

I'm quite interested in your definition on handling characteristics, given you are the 1% of GTPers who actually know how to drive.
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HANDLING CHARACTERISTICS OF ROAD VEHICLES
Click here.
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GTP_CargoRat
Not sure what you're trying to tell me here by quoting me. Please explain.
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(sig) WRS: Division 4 Bronze

Speed XII
99.9% of people here are too slow to notice handling characteristics.
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Sorry, this is as far as I'll go to explain this to you.
If you still can't understand my post please get someone to draw it for you.
 
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1241Penguin
He/she is implying that you can't drive because you don't go fast enough for under and oversteer to appear.
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Ahh, ok. Well, even tho I'm only D4 driver, I bet my friends in the WRS would disagree with him.
 
Speed XII
Yes, because D3 performance is an achievement.

Each to his own I guess.
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It is an achievement. Just like D1 is for D2 drivers. Please, quit attacking me and 99% of the community just because you are having problems with the car.
 
I dont see the need to attack gtp members. All you had to do was disagree, show your reasons and facts then move on.

Why the rage against members?
 
Speed XII
Just tried it, awful car.
Possibly the worst handling car on GT5, huge understeer on corner entry (related to a retarded 2nd gear ratio), insane oversteer mid-corner/on corner exit (which is crazy considering it's not extremly powerful), oversteer under heavy braking...

To sum it up:
OVERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER (glue effect, no recovery), boom.


Also, lol at comments saying this has good handling. Shows how 99% of this forum know crap about what they're talking about (or never drive without racing softs, your usual GT5 scrub fashion).
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I'll translate this for you:

OVERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER

POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL

Seeing as how most of the rest of the planet feels differently about the car than you, I'd say the problem most likely lies with you and not the car but it's just a guess.

It's also a possibility that you're not that familiar with the 2.09 update, as most cars will tend to handle the way you described if you don't get the pace right post-2.09. Get the pace right and most cars will turn well with good front bite. Overcook it just slightly for example, and it goes into a slight push on the front end.
 
It's not the car I'm having problems with, it's:
ppl from the thread
Well, the car feels good.
The car is freaking amazing!
Just drove and what a blast it was.
I would put it right up there with the ZR1 in terms of sheer fun and performance around the track even while it has twice as less power. (nice 1)
It drives really well! Very fun to drive.
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thelvynau
I dont see the need to attack gtp members. All you had to do was disagree, show your reasons and facts then move on.

Why the rage against members?
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I'm not raging, nor am I attacking.

Johnnypenso
I'll translate this for you:

OVERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER

POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL/ POOR THROTTLE/BRAKE/PACE CONTROL

Seeing as how most of the rest of the planet feels differently about the car than you, I'd say the problem most likely lies with you and not the car but it's just a guess.
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Yes, because there's a higher chance you'll come upon an alien fast driver than a slow one here.
[sarcasam m8, dnt take this literally pls]

Simple version:
Yes, 99% of ppl here are aliens, and 1% are piss slow. I'm that 1% oh noooooooooo. T_T
[sarcasm again]
 
Speed XII
It's not the car I'm having problems with
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Yes it is.
Speed XII
Just tried it, awful car.
Possibly the worst handling car on GT5, huge understeer on corner entry (related to a retarded 2nd gear ratio), insane oversteer mid-corner/on corner exit (which is crazy considering it's not extremly powerful), oversteer under heavy braking...

To sum it up:
OVERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER (glue effect, no recovery), boom.


Also, lol at comments saying this has good handling. Shows how 99% of this forum know crap about what they're talking about (or never drive without racing softs, your usual GT5 scrub fashion).
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Speed XII
It's not the car I'm having problems with, it's:
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So what if people like driving it.

Has it come to the point where people cant enjoy it without your seal of approval?
 
thelvynau
So what if people like driving it.

Has it come to the point where people cant enjoy it without your seal of approval?
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If you enjoy it good for you!
Maybe I didn't express myself well, apologies for that (I'm not a native english speaker so I may sound cold at times ^^).

I've nothing against people enjoying their game, I'm not one of those people who cry at people who use aids and racing tires.
 
So the simple answer is that you don't like the car... Great! Don't drive it and move on... There's plenty of cars in GT5 I don't get on with, but rather than moan about it I see them as a challenge, something to be mastered and even improved with a little 'tweaking' in the tuning dept. Done!
 
Ok mr "Speed XII"

The Corvette is good because its a drivers car. You need to control it, you need to fight it. I found it pretty pleasant to drive and enjoyed it on stock tyres. Maybe you learnt to control it and come back later :)
 
Speed XII
Just tried it, awful car.
Possibly the worst handling car on GT5, huge understeer on corner entry (related to a retarded 2nd gear ratio), insane oversteer mid-corner/on corner exit (which is crazy considering it's not extremly powerful), oversteer under heavy braking...

To sum it up:
OVERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER (glue effect, no recovery), boom.

Also, lol at comments saying this has good handling. Shows how 99% of this forum know crap about what they're talking about (or never drive without racing softs, your usual GT5 scrub fashion).
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Speed XII
Yes sorry, I forgot to mention that 99.9% of people here are too slow to notice handling characteristics.
You can add this to my original argument.
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calan_svc
Agreed.

In stock form and all aids off, this car is a surprising turd for a new 'vette; the stock ZR-1 from the Chevy dealer runs circles around it. It is way too edgy, with no sense of when you are at the limit (which I've come to really enjoy with most cars since the latest physics changes).

I hope they get those "handling characteristics" ironed out that they are still working on. :)
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News flash to the people that are complaining about the car's handling and now blaming it on PD.

You do realize that the car's specs are pretty much them guessing right? I am pretty much 100% sure that GM hasn't given PD the full specs on a car that isn't finished yet hahaha.

Which it handles great on comfort hard all the way through comfort medium plus

All we can do is wait and see the final result.
 
Speed XII
Just tried it, awful car.
Possibly the worst handling car on GT5, huge understeer on corner entry (related to a retarded 2nd gear ratio), insane oversteer mid-corner/on corner exit (which is crazy considering it's not extremly powerful), oversteer under heavy braking...

To sum it up:
OVERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, UNDERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER, OVERSTEER (glue effect, no recovery), boom.

Also, lol at comments saying this has good handling. Shows how 99% of this forum know crap about what they're talking about (or never drive without racing softs, your usual GT5 scrub fashion).
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Another nooby gt5 driver that's having problems driving a very good handling car.there are worst handling cars then this because this car handles great
 
478hp after you break it in. it does 200mph. not bad for a stock car.
i agree this car handles awesome. whoever says it doesnt handle good is an idiot.
 
I'll tell you exactly why people are saying it oversteers & understeers: DRIVER ERROR I just did a 10 lap race with it in arcade mode on Cote D'Azur. I came in 2nd because I spun coming out of the chicane from applying the gas too early. Also, I had all driver aids (aside from ABS) off & tire wear & fuel consumption on. This was on lap 6/10 & I had spun the tires a few times earlier with Sports Soft tires equipped, so the tires hadn't worn too bad.

Other than that, the car handled considerably well.
 
Sw3RvE
whoever says it doesnt handle good is an idiot.
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An idiot? Really?

It doesn't handle good...at least not on my simulator rig, completely stock with all aids off. It's not completely horrible, but it certainly isn't "good".

hobanator24
I'll tell you exactly why people are saying it oversteers & understeers: DRIVER ERROR
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hobanator24
Also, I had all driver aids (aside from ABS)... with Sports Soft tires equipped
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Or maybe the people saying it handles good are driving it with aids and soft tires. :)

*****

Try putting some harder tires on it and turn off ABS, and maybe you'll be able to feel the inconsistency in the way it handles.
 
Not gonna say it hanldes well but its not bad i had a 7:18 lap at the Ring on racing inters.
But most recently at Monaco it was so much fun , definitely a very gradifying experience. the bodyroll it has is very accurate.
 
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calan_svc
An idiot? Really?

It doesn't handle good...at least not on my simulator rig, completely stock with all aids off. It's not completely horrible, but it certainly isn't "good".

Or maybe the people saying it handles good are driving it with aids and soft tires. :)

*****

Try putting some harder tires on it and turn off ABS, and maybe you'll be able to feel the inconsistency in the way it handles.
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Funny im pretty sure thats how alot of us test the car out but if your unhappy with it thats your opinion.
 
While Its certain that not everyone agrees, the amount of insults being flown at people who disagree with one's opinion here is completely unnecessary. Is there a actual need to go about applying a crappy label to everyone who has a different opinion to yours?
 
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calan_svc
An idiot? Really?

It doesn't handle good...at least not on my simulator rig, completely stock with all aids off. It's not completely horrible, but it certainly isn't "good".





Or maybe the people saying it handles good are driving it with aids and soft tires. :)

*****

Try putting some harder tires on it and turn off ABS, and maybe you'll be able to feel the inconsistency in the way it handles.
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Like I said before, that is exactly how I tested it and I have no problems with the way it handles.
 
The first thing I did with the car was fit comfort tyres and turn off the TCS. Driving the car at Laguna Seca and the Ring I found it to be very enjoyable. That being said I feel the cars chassis setup gives something of a false sense of security. The soft suspension gives incredible mechanical grip but makes it a bit difficult to feel the limit. A few times I got it wrong thinking she'd pull through when I was asking too much. So maybe it's not the best handling car of all time, but the base model Corvette isn't intended to be. For a mass production, grand tourer it handles quite well. And I would venture to say that the inevitable performance version should build on this solid foundation to make for one fine automobile.

And I'm more of a Viper guy
 
Here is what is wrote to pistonheads..
"I tested yesterday C7 proto against Z06 tuned to 440BHp. I would say that c7 felt more edgy and had better turn-in but worse mid corner poise and understeer. My laptimes were within 0.1s between two cars on trial mountain track. The car in the game was the manual version and gearing felt too tall compared to z06. New engine revs very well and 8 speed box of the automatic will be much faster on track. So far old z06 felt easier to drive of the two but it is still proto and I imagine they will change things still IRL and to model in game. Doing 3rd gear drifts with c7 was very easy though but car had overall too much understeer to my liking."
 

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