"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Veinz]

what are some good BB settings for the gr4 huracan?

 

[Hasnain282]

what are some good BB settings for the gr4 huracan?

I always had it on +5 when I was with Lamborghini in the manufacturer series.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

@05XR8 Nice win. I remember my first. Been so long my next will feel like it again.

Knocked 1.4s off my Race C time, still embarrassingly slow. Optimal 2.5s better, eek. I should try other cars...

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I think we need more than just 3 races

The problem is that would split the playerbase even more leading to unbalanced matchmaking and inflate another problem of conflicting DRs and its influence on the penalty system.

I agree about your last point, half of the cars in my inventory have never been featured or eligible to use in a daily race.

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

what are some good BB settings for the gr4 huracan?

-4. Got 1.37.7 with it on sunday and i'm sure there is one second to shave off, although I can't do it.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

-4. Got 1.37.7 with it on sunday and i'm sure there is one second to shave off, although I can't do it.

Top aliens haven't gone beyond 1:37.2 so unless you're some kind of prophet, I think that's going to be extremely difficult. Either way, great time.

Edit: Nevermind, I saw you said Sunday so I guess your time wasn't under the same conditions as the daily race.

 

[05XR8]

@05XR8 Nice win. I remember my first. Been so long my next will feel like it again.

Knocked 1.4s off my Race C time, still embarrassingly slow. Optimal 2.5s better, eek. I should try other cars...

Thanks. This is my 16th New game. I start a new game when I get bored, to relive the "firsts", to choose a new Manufacturer and to see what cars I get as gifts, when I redo the Circuit Experiences after each update.

I had enough after the second Gr.3 race. Too much impatience mid-pack. Just uncalled for. Decided to qualify.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Ahhh gotcha. I just recognized the name as being the same, didn't even think about that sort of reset. I'm in the 'I'll only ever use one account because I don't care about ratings' camp.

vvLOOKvv my stats prove it.

 

[Veinz]

won a race, got a massive 90 dr. One bad race and I lose like anywhere from 500-1000 though.

also the huracan is easy mode

 

[ajmiles]

I did several Race C's last night and had quite some level of success. With the Supra I bagged a 2:16:0 but really didn't enjoy how unstable the rear of the car is in traction zones with TCS 0, so I bought the FT-1 and went faster within 3 laps! My Race C qualifying time now sits at 2:15:489 but it wasn't a great lap and my optimal is a 2:15:0.

Race-wise I've tried both the M4/M4 (1 stop) and H8 (0 stop) strategies and in the FT-1 the 1-stop strategy is at least 10 seconds faster over the course of a race. To get the FT-1 to do 8 laps the fuel is extremely marginal and I had to use Fuel Mode 4 and short shift just to get to the end of the race. The hard tyres are fine on Lap 8 but you're losing several seconds a lap on Fuel 4 and for that reason it just isn't worth it. If there are other cars that drink significantly less fuel such that you could do the entire race on Fuel 2 then it might be a viable strategy, but not in the FT-1.

My race plan on the M4/M4 strategy largely depends on what position I come out of Turn 1 in. If I'm in 2nd or 3rd then I just sit in the slipstream and sip fuel for the first 4 laps and hope to jump everyone in the stops. If I get a "break the slipstream" sized gap in the first few corners then I just go hell for leather and do 4 qualifying laps at the start of the race and build enough of a gap to take on a bit extra fuel and still come out in the lead. If I'm in the lead but the person in 2nd is hanging onto my slipstream then I fuel save and don't fight any moves they might take to overtake me. Usually I've found I can keep racing pretty hard while still saving quite a bit of fuel and then if I make a pitstop ~1s faster than the person behind me that's enough to break the tow in the second stint. I then race hard enough to maintain that gap for the rest of the race.

Best race of the night was probably one where I finished 2nd behind BAM-Enzo (qualifying time 2:14:612). Managed to hang on to him for almost the entire race (2-3 seconds) and thought I might have the speed to get him in the final stint but I never got close enough to latch onto his slipstream. Please excuse any babbling I do while streaming . Race C is a great combination!

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

Top aliens haven't gone beyond 1:37.2 so unless you're some kind of prophet, I think that's going to be extremely difficult. Either way, great time.

Edit: Nevermind, I saw you said Sunday so I guess your time wasn't under the same conditions as the daily race.

I used the same conditions. There's definitely room for 1.36.x!

 

[tariklehaine]

Thanks. This is my 16th New game. I start a new game when I get bored, to relive the "firsts", to choose a new Manufacturer and to see what cars I get as gifts, when I redo the Circuit Experiences after each update.

I had enough after the second Gr.3 race. Too much impatience mid-pack. Just uncalled for. Decided to qualify.

Nice to see you where using the M6. How is the M6 doing when it comes down to tyrewear and fuel?

 

[Melbourne Park]

With TCR Australia about to begin next week

Excuse my ignorance, but what is TCR?

 

[05XR8]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is TCR?

Touring Car Racing.

 

[Melbourne Park]

I'll take a bit of compensation for my resent woes.

I don't get it ... your stats say you've played three whole days. The victory banner above says FIRST VICTORY. So above, your first win...

... but your stats also say you've had 1,678 races and 76 wins...

I saw the first Matrix movie again the other night ... are you "THE ONE"?

 

[Veinz]

-4. Got 1.37.7 with it on sunday and i'm sure there is one second to shave off, although I can't do it.

Thanks, tried your BB and got a 38.3, I can get a high 37 if I get all the corners right. I think 36s are possible as well.

 

[splitwindow]

what are some good BB settings for the gr4 huracan?

I'm running -2 to the front so far with the ds4 and it's working well for me, although I think some more to the front might be even better.
Brazil is one of my favourite tracks though.

Edit: sounds like more to the front it is then.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I raced for a few hours yesterday for some surprisingly clean races on A and B.

On Race A I had to race from the middle of the pack with my time so I was expecting a bumper car fight. Fortunately that race requires so much retained momentum through the corners that everyone seemed paranoid to even touch other. Once people did bump one another, they would revert back to their spiteful ******** and ram each other, knocking each other down 3 to 4 spots. By just backing out of exchanges and focusing on my momentum I was consistently able to move from the middle of the pack to 3rd.

On Race B I'm trying to stick with Toyota cars instead of Porsches just to add a bit of change to the game but the adjustment is a bit odd. The 86 drives great but it almost feels too safe. The Cayman could lose it's back end easier but it's fidelity in the over steer was amazing where you could let the back end out and reclaim it smoothly without losing too much time. With the 86 though, when it gets loose it scrubs a lot of rubber and slows down pretty dramatically and that feedback range before you lose your back end feels more narrow than the Cayman. My Race B races where fairly uneventful. For DR B I'm polling in second so once I clear the S curves I pretty much break away from the field and just build SR. So at least I'm finally back to SR A again and I should reach S pretty quickly if I can just avoid trouble.

 

[Dorofint]

Getting wound up now, apparently a clean defence of your position is to ram into my car giving me an SR down. This is even is SR:S, A was worse, so was B, C doesn’t bode well. There was a time that I would sit back to try and increase my SR one race at a time but I don’t have time to spend hours correcting my SR to get clean racing. It’s pointless anyway if S rank is dirty too.

Time to stop worrying about it and just race my race.

In SR S it is sometimes dirtiest. In lower classes, some try to be clean in order to rise to SR S.
Besides SR, DR has a big impact on fairness. If you look at races between DR A and S drivers then these races are usually very fair because the drivers know exactly what they are doing. I've been DR B for a long time and that's where chaos reigns, even in a SR S field. Already in DR B there are many drivers with bad racecraft. This has a massive effect on the quality of the races. If you want to run clean, it's best to upgrade to DR A SR S or higher. This is easier written than done. I do not have the time to reach this level but I wish you good luck.

 

[Loverson]

DrB is still a mess for quality racing.

Sometimes it's amazing, sometimes people fake crash to force other a penalty (had a huracan in daily b that for some reason he handbrake on a straight, spinning out and tried to crash next to me and immediately quit the race, luckily no penalty), then bad racing habits such divebombs and not respecting/leaving space as they think it's fair to do so.

 

[Voodoovaj]

DrB is still a mess for quality racing.

Sometimes it's amazing, sometimes people fake crash to force other a penalty (had a huracan in daily b that for some reason he handbrake on a straight, spinning out and tried to crash next to me and immediately quit the race, luckily no penalty), then bad racing habits such divebombs and not respecting/leaving space as they think it's fair to do so.

Many SR B guys seem to have this idea that the game owes them an A+. They might be fast for a lap, or even fast if they are out on their own, but if the racing is close, they can't pick different lines or keep from hitting you. It's like the race is a series of single laps and if they lead every lap, they'll win. I hate when I get matched with an SR B near me. I just expect some sort of chaos and try to get away if I can. If I can't I just follow them and wait for/pressure them into a mistake.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I used the same conditions. There's definitely room for 1.36.x!

Interesting, have you since tried qualifying on the track? Time of day used will also affect track conditions. I assume you had BoP on.

I'm sure 1:36 is possible but I don't think it's going to be as easy as you make it sound. Alien times are within the region of 1:37.2 ~ 1:37.7 and they're super dedicated to qualifying.

 

[Melbourne Park]

Many SR B guys seem to have this idea that the game owes them an A+. They might be fast for a lap, or even fast if they are out on their own, but if the racing is close, they can't pick different lines or keep from hitting you. It's like the race is a series of single laps and if they lead every lap, they'll win. I hate when I get matched with an SR B near me. I just expect some sort of chaos and try to get away if I can. If I can't I just follow them and wait for/pressure them into a mistake.

But A drivers don't like to be beaten by B drivers. If a B driver is playing it safe a bit, he'll hold up the A driver, who then in my experience, will touch the B driver out of the way with a lap or two to go. But an A driver should realise that driving racing lines and being a bit defensive, is part of racing. I've found A+ drivers are great. But A drivers can be as bad as anybody else.

Another thing about fast B drivers - they often have an A or A+ status on one of their other accounts. That also makes them a bit wild IMO. If they were racing their top account, I reckon they'd behave themselves. However I reckon its fairly easy to pick a B status driver who has an A or A+ license in another account. Their lines are constant and fast and they don't make any significant mistakes. But they sure can be dirty IMO.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Many SR B guys seem to have this idea that the game owes them an A+. They might be fast for a lap, or even fast if they are out on their own, but if the racing is close, they can't pick different lines or keep from hitting you. It's like the race is a series of single laps and if they lead every lap, they'll win. I hate when I get matched with an SR B near me. I just expect some sort of chaos and try to get away if I can. If I can't I just follow them and wait for/pressure them into a mistake.

The biggest gripe I have with the SR B drivers is that they'll only exit a turn as far as their momentum will carry them (which apparently is the middle of the track), even if they are going side by side with a faster car on the inside. So I inevitably push them to the edge of the track on exit and then they act like I issued a declaration of war on their entire family.

 

[ASH32]

Interesting, have you since tried qualifying on the track? Time of day used will also affect track conditions. I assume you had BoP on.

I'm sure 1:36 is possible but I don't think it's going to be as easy as you make it sound. Alien times are within the region of 1:37.2 ~ 1:37.7 and they're super dedicated to qualifying.

Yes Online is not the same as any Offline mode either, it has less grip. The 1st place driver in the EMEA region is also using the handbrake.

 

[FeloneousMonk]

This is so tough for me because I'm relatively new to GTS (DR of D) and had a SR of A until last week's A and B races that were just full of morons now I'm a B and low D. Trying to work up from the DR of D is challenging and I don't know how the heck I'm going to advance. Prior to last week I was qualifying 7th and 5th and finishing 2nd/3rd. Last night I skipped qualifying started at the back and over took others to finish in the top 10. Decided to do a qualifying run and landed in 10th.

I've been hesitant to qualify even though I know I can place higher but I'm hesitant to do so due to the smash up derby that erased my DR from last week. Thoughts? Should I just continue to improve my qualifying time and battle for a higher position?

 

[Illum_Concept]

This is so tough for me because I'm relatively new to GTS (DR of D) and had a SR of A until last week's A and B races that were just full of morons now I'm a B and low D. Trying to work up from the DR of D is challenging and I don't know how the heck I'm going to advance. Prior to last week I was qualifying 7th and 5th and finishing 2nd/3rd. Last night I skipped qualifying started at the back and over took others to finish in the top 10. Decided to do a qualifying run and landed in 10th.

I've been hesitant to qualify even though I know I can place higher but I'm hesitant to do so due to the smash up derby that erased my DR from last week. Thoughts? Should I just continue to improve my qualifying time and battle for a higher position?

I recall reading somewhere that a clean Race C this week can grant +22 SR. My suggestion would be just run this race as safely as you can. If someone wants to pass dangerously, just let them by. They'll probably crash off with the next driver they reach anyway. Even with a few scrapes, a long as you're careful and can stay on the track your SR (and DR as it stands having looked at your profile) should go up. So qualify if you want (I would!) but be prepared to give places away, and try to make SR S.

Just my two cents. A bit of patience now and racing will be fun again when not everyone is trying to kill you!

 

[Dorofint]

Many SR B guys seem to have this idea that the game owes them an A+. They might be fast for a lap, or even fast if they are out on their own, but if the racing is close, they can't pick different lines or keep from hitting you. It's like the race is a series of single laps and if they lead every lap, they'll win. I hate when I get matched with an SR B near me. I just expect some sort of chaos and try to get away if I can. If I can't I just follow them and wait for/pressure them into a mistake.

That's exactly what makes racecraft. Many B riders are fast as long as they are on their own. Together with other drivers, they then feel slowed down and become dirty. The slipstream plays a big role. As a result, they often have the feeling to be much faster than the frontman and have to overtake as fast as possible. I have often experienced that these players then slow down much later than usual. Instead in this situation it would be necessary to slow down a little earlier because of the slipstream and the resulting higher speed. But many of these do not see these connections. Or they feel superior and believe they could do it anyway. I do not need to describe the results of such actions here. We have all experienced this too often.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I've been hesitant to qualify even though I know I can place higher but I'm hesitant to do so due to the smash up derby that erased my DR from last week. Thoughts? Should I just continue to improve my qualifying time and battle for a higher position?

I know the system can get complicated when you deal with the nuances of it but generally speaking... increase your DR by being faster and winning races. Increase your SR by qualifying in top 3 and running clean ahead of the pack or by driving safely behind the pack while your DR goes down.

Some people like to build their SR up to S and then race at S for theoretically cleaner races. Others like to tank their SR in order to race the worst drivers of their DR class so they can stack more wins.

Personally, I really don't care. If a race is starting in 2 minutes I'll jump in regardless of any qualifying laps. If the race is in 6 minutes then I'll throw down couple of qualifying laps and work from the middle of the pack. If the race available starts in 12 minutes I'll just do an offline campaign race or go play Division 2.

I usually on play for an hour or two every other day so I just have to take whatever I get.

 

[sturk0167]

But A drivers don't like to be beaten by B drivers. If a B driver is playing it safe a bit, he'll hold up the A driver, who then in my experience, will touch the B driver out of the way with a lap or two to go. But an A driver should realise that driving racing lines and being a bit defensive, is part of racing. I've found A+ drivers are great. But A drivers can be as bad as anybody else.

Another thing about fast B drivers - they often have an A or A+ status on one of their other accounts. That also makes them a bit wild IMO. If they were racing their top account, I reckon they'd behave themselves. However I reckon its fairly easy to pick a B status driver who has an A or A+ license in another account. Their lines are constant and fast and they don't make any significant mistakes. But they sure can be dirty IMO.

Never trust someone's ratings. I've gone from A/S to D/E in a span of 3 races. Right after that, I went from SR E to SR S, 3 races later.