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Here is a prime example of my "overtaking skills"...
I would say that 95%+ of my overtakes are done using this "technique".

Its a legit strategy. They say to finish first, first you have to finish. A lot of good can happen if you keep it on the black stuff!
 
Yay! CAn't wait to see when I get punted off:rolleyes:

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Edit: ... and I didn't get punted off. Amazing!
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@Pigems I only did an odd lap in the 4C, it felt too slow but I'll run some more laps today with it and tell you for sure.

So far I've done what I'd say are acceptable times in the Huracan, Lancer, TT, Cayman, GT-R and the Genesis and all could likely be improved with more laps but some more easily than others. My best lap so far (38.0) is in the Atenza though. ;)
 
Great lap man, but you lost a bunch (racing terms so maybe two tenths) of time in turns 6 and 7 (the double right). Your right tires should be on that curb, on entry and exit. Clean that corner up and you should be knocking on 37’s. Just my observation man, maybe it will help, maybe it won’t. :cheers:

Thanks man, and TYVM for the tip too, it’s much appreciated. I’ll work on that tonight, I’d love to crack into the 37’s this week. :cheers:

@Pigems I only did an odd lap in the 4C, it felt too slow but I'll run some more laps today with it and tell you for sure.

So far I've done what I'd say are acceptable times in the Huracan, Lancer, TT, Cayman, GT-R and the Genesis and all could likely be improved with more laps but some more easily than others. My best lap so far (38.0) is in the Atenza though. ;)

Thanks for the info man, great lap too eh. :cheers:
 
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The TT is just not spectacular. Feels lazy. Just raced in the Megane and it's like the Scirocco, but the extra 20hp(for BOP) in the Meagne is noticeable. I pulled this GT-R from the final turn to T1 and it was a speck in my driver's side rear view mirror.

Started P2 and got 3 seconds for T1 because, the lead WRX crawled trough the turn. So, I slowed down the straight and let some cars pass until a gap opened. Three TTs in a row and they couldn't hold it together. Was back up to A/S, now A/A. A Huracan starts in front of me, in P1, for this next race.

Edit: Well that was cheap. P1 is slip sliding all over the place. Runs wide at T3. I take the inside. It rejoins, taps me and I get an orange arrow. Bye bye Clean Bonus.
Finish and only got 37k Cr. for my troubles. The other race I won, in the Scirocco, I got 167k!
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The TT is just not spectacular. Feels lazy. Just raced in the Megane and it's like the Scirocco, but the extra 20hp(for BOP) in the Meagne is noticeable. I pulled this GT-R from the final turn to T1 and it was a speck in my driver's side rear view mirror.
We raced together tonight - I had a race before dinner. I went from 3rd on the grid to 4th. I let a TT through. Maybe the draft, and the Lancer is a bit of a brick, perhaps. It slows down at the top of the straight. Its main fault I reckon. I thought the Japanese TT driver was a bit nutty ... then after the race, I found I had lost 2 SR ... I should have stayed in front of the guy I guess. I'm To_blitz by the way.

With your pictures preceding of your win, it says you've had two wins ... yet your score of wins at Kudos Player, is heaps (30 times) more? Is that a glitch with just you? Why am I missing out???
 
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I may have missed something over the past couple of pages. But, is it possible to no stop race C?

Lexus '17 on hards, perhaps?
 
The TT is just not spectacular. Feels lazy. Just raced in the Megane and it's like the Scirocco, but the extra 20hp(for BOP) in the Meagne is noticeable. I pulled this GT-R from the final turn to T1 and it was a speck in my driver's side rear view mirror.

Started P2 and got 3 seconds for T1 because, the lead WRX crawled trough the turn. So, I slowed down the straight and let some cars pass until a gap opened. Three TTs in a row and they couldn't hold it together. Was back up to A/S, now A/A. A Huracan starts in front of me, in P1, for this next race.

Edit: Well that was cheap. P1 is slip sliding all over the place. Runs wide at T3. I take the inside. It rejoins, taps me and I get an orange arrow. Bye bye Clean Bonus.
Finish and only got 37k Cr. for my troubles. The other race I won, in the Scirocco, I got 167k!
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Hi there,

I've try'd a lot of cars @Interlagos. To make it short, this is my resume. Veyron: .40.1, Megane: .39.8 and Lambo: .39.6. Then i again try'd the TT, and after some practice, i had a .39.1. Brake balance 5 to the rear. With DS4. I've had some good races with it yet. I think i could do a high .38. Grtz
 
Ok found another very acceptable car for Race B. Will do mid 1:37s at least in the top drivers hands, 38.0 definitely possible for me but best so far is 38.2.

The car is the Corvette, so yeah not that shocking but it is a really solid car with no real weaknesses and it feels easy to go at a decent pace and be consistent with it, average drivers could do far worse than pick this car I think. ;)
 
I like race 3 after some training, the track is strange.
I would like to drive the Ferrari gr3 but the rear tires burn fast and the big corners the rear just slips away, luckiliy my other prefered car works - the lexux prototype gr3.
 
The car is the Corvette... average drivers could do far worse than pick this car I think. ;)

What about us genuinely rubbish drivers? :lol:

Thanks, I'll give it a go. There are so many cars to choose. Don't necessarily have the time to try everything. So this kinda info is invaluable.

I normally stick to what I know/have. But of course as the track-car-combos change and as I 'improve' the cars I can actually get around the lap in alter significantly!
 
We raced together tonight - I had a race before dinner. I went from 3rd on the grid to 4th. I let a TT through. Maybe the draft, and the Lancer is a bit of a brick, perhaps. It slows down at the top of the straight. Its main fault I reckon. I thought the Japanese TT driver was a bit nutty ... then after the race, I found I had lost 2 SR ... I should have stayed in front of the guy I guess. I'm To_blitz by the way.

With your pictures preceding of your win, it says you've had two wins ... yet your score of wins at Kudos Player, is heaps (30 times) more? Is that a glitch with just you? Why am I missing out???
:lol: You asked me this in the previous page. I started a new game... again.

Can't remember the last time I piloted the RCZ, but hot damn! The closing speed is ridiculous. I think you're right about the Lancer and maybe the WRx as well. After I passed the Huracan on the last lap, the WRX was 3.7 seconds away. At the exit of the final turn, it pulled 3.2 seconds on me. My climb up the hill and nearing the pits, the gap was quickly falling to the 2.9 seconds at the finish.
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What about us genuinely rubbish drivers? :lol:

Thanks, I'll give it a go. There are so many cars to choose. Don't necessarily have the time to try everything. So this kinda info is invaluable.

I normally stick to what I know/have. But of course as the track-car-combos change and as I 'improve' the cars I can actually get around the lap in alter significantly!

It can depend, if you start using TC, auto gears or even the pad, as maybe the cars are different on a pad to a wheel, it all could change a car from what feels a good car to drive for me to something hard or just slow for someone else.

Don't use the Veyron though unless you want to annoy everyone. It so quick that passing other cars will be easy but so will holding them up in the middle sector because it is just slow through there. Using another car to Q and then using the Veyron to race will be the ultimate troll I think, well as long as you run blocking lines and don't drive off the track. :lol:
 
Been having some issues lately, using controller and it feels like I have what I can only describe as a randomly activating clutch .



Has anyone else had this?
 
The Corvette did good for me when I used it. Solid ride.

I'm on DS4 as well, but just leave everything stock. So, no doubt a bit of fiddling and spending time with the TT might be the best option. Compared to the other FF cars, I find it the least nimble.
That RCZ though. On the gas out off a corner, it doesn't have as much understeer as I thought it would. Definitely had to change my lines a bit to take advantage of that. Wish we could swap it for this:

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Been having some issues lately, using controller and it feels like I have what I can only describe as a randomly activating clutch .



Has anyone else had this?


Your handbrake comes on for a split second, must have an issue with that particular button, change the handbrake to another button and put something else (or nothing) that won't cause an issue (like lights) on that button. ;)
 
Just dropped my Race B time from 1:42.6 to 1:40.5 with the lambo. Finally did a lap without a penalty. It took some time to adjust to the lambo after using the GTR/Corvette. Easily my best qualy time for any race since I got my wheel. My time was holding me back and I kept getting put in weird lobbies since I'm DR B. My time didnt reflect that.
 
Just dropped my Race B time from 1:42.6 to 1:40.5 with the lambo. Finally did a lap without a penalty. It took some time to adjust to the lambo after using the GTR/Corvette. Easily my best qualy time for any race since I got my wheel. My time was holding me back and I kept getting put in weird lobbies since I'm DR B. My time didnt reflect that.

Nice one, C'mon, get it under the .40's! ;)
 
Sorry guys I’ve been reading through and hearing talks of handbrake being used at interlagos? But can’t find the original post

Can someone link me the post or the video?

I’m at 1:38:700 at the moment, hoping this will give me that little bit more
 
Back on the dailies this week for the first time in a while. Well doing the Gr.4 at Interlagos as the others aren't of much interest to me. 1.38.862 qualifier which puts me more or less at the tail end of the grid in a mixed A+,A and B DR rooms. Hovering at the high end of B DR at the moment and can't seem to break into the A's. More or less finishing where I started. Using the trusty old WRX which probably isn't the best option round here but strong round the tight stuff and my 'go to' Gr.4 car. Clean, fair races, just not particularly quick.
 
I may have missed something over the past couple of pages. But, is it possible to no stop race C?

Lexus '17 on hards, perhaps?

It's possible, just not recommended with the current penalty system. I kept getting bumped from behind and run off in the second half by impatient drivers. Even if you leave all the room and the door wide open to let the cars with fresh mediums through, half the time they run into you anyway.

I did a no stop run in the Porsche, got 6 or 7 SR Downs from getting hit from behind and bumped off 3 or 4 times by impatient drivers. I started 9th, went to 15th in the first few laps since I had to brake earlier than medium tire cars which ran me off, reclaimed a few positions, got into 5th after the pit and got bumped off 3 more times to end in 10th. It might go better now (that was on Monday) but you put your race in the hands of all the others on the track.

I'm going to try it with the Lexus today, see if it's viable now.
 
Ok tired the 4C again for Race B qualifying but it is just slow at accelerating and has poor top speed, I'm driving it badly too but even if I were not it'll just get swamped by other cars in a race.

Tried the Vantage and SLS but they are not quick enough to bother to put time and effort into running a good lap or to even think about using them in a race over other cars.

Also tried the RCZ and boy is that thing quick, fastest in a straight line in fact but to say it understeers is a understatement. Use one of these in a race and you'll annoy everyone else just as much as a Veyron user, well if you don't just understeer off the track, which is likely if you end up having to take anything other than the ideal line through a corner.
 
Sorry guys I’ve been reading through and hearing talks of handbrake being used at interlagos? But can’t find the original post

Can someone link me the post or the video?
Just watch the replay of the number 1 performance from the in-game leaderboard. It's only a quick dab, he's not sliding it all the way round like a rally driver.
 
Sorry guys I’ve been reading through and hearing talks of handbrake being used at interlagos? But can’t find the original post

Can someone link me the post or the video?

I’m at 1:38:700 at the moment, hoping this will give me that little bit more

In game replay, 1,2 and 3 all use it, at least they are only dabbing it now, at first the replays using it were sliding around corners. Still unrealistic though and an alien would beat these times driving normally too, although maybe not by as much as if they did this handbrake trick. :indiff:
 
Terms such as utter nonsense are quite emotional IMO. With respect - you are being grossly unfair to B status drivers IMO.

Last night I got hate mail from a dude from B ranks. I won't repeat it because it was ...umm...colourful. Want to know what happened? I had to go to the bathroom, so once I crossed the finish line, off I went. Apparently, in my absence, he had congratulated me and I didn't respond. Because of my lack of response, I got hate mail.

That is emotional. Calling something utter nonsense is not emotional, especially when it's utter nonsense.

One reason for being a B driver is because you race a fair bit, and you have a hand controller. Because you race a fair bit, you'll end up in races which don't suit the hand controller. Because the courses are so limited, its quite easy for an A speed driver to loose lots of points.

I did clearly state "career B drivers" so as to differentiate between someone who may be passing through the B ranks, but I (like many A and A+ drivers) use a controller. So, blaming the controller for a B rating is, again, utter nonsense.

Another reason for being a B driver is because you prefer to race than qualify. Qualifying has a huge effect on your points tally. But it does not have a great effect on your track speed, at least, after a number or races. But by then, you've likely lost heaps of points. There's lots of B drivers who are middle "A" level fast. They just are simply not chasing points.

Hmmm... interesting. So, you are saying that a person, who on a regular basis just hops into a race without practice, their rank is because of poor finishing position rather than lack of practice?

So, "racing" doesn't happen at the sharp end of the field? Really? I must have been doing it wrong all this time.

What term did I use? Oh right, utter nonsense.

If a person chooses to start at the back, they are choosing to be a career B driver. If they are indeed "A level fast" then a few moments to set a time would put them in the top half of the field, where they can still be racing, but racing with people of their own level.

Another reason is that a B driver with A speed may drive a different car in every race. Which costs points. The innate technique is there, but the car ain't, let alone being able to optimise the car's potential. That costs points. But its fun all right and can indicate a good driver despite a B points tally.

I do this all the time. No, I don't go out and take the worst possible car for an event, but I put mileage on everything. I even go out of my way quite often to avoid the META car because I feel I am taking the easy way out.

It hasn't affected my score.

Another reason can be internet issues. Poor connections costs points in traffic. That B driver in front who is all over the place at a critical part of the track - it may be his connection. Not the player's fault.

"Not the (B) player's fault" is the mantra of the B player. I've had poor connections. It's never "cost me points in traffic".

So far, you're rebuttal is supporting my "utter nonsense" statement.

And I have been pushed off the track, and had hits from drivers that then cruise onto the off track area, loose a second and laugh at the penalty they've given me. In my current B status at 24,000 points. My other account is over 40,000 points. Yep - A drivers can be re-set you know. So can A+ drivers. They're still as fast as they were.

IMO second account drivers don't care nearly as much about their status or points as they do in their main account. If someone is pissing them off, they have less inhibitions. That's human nature.

Again, I did clearly state "career B drivers" but I completely disagree that the majority of B drivers are some better driver's second account. Is there the odd one here or there? Sure. I've been up and down the scale myself. However, my DR status has never changed my approach to a race nor has it ever substantially and profoundly altered my DR so that I REMAIN a lower ranked driver. Have I run people off in anger in the past? Sure. Has that condemned me to lower ranks? No.

I wager that If I make a second account, I will qualify at the same level and end up at the same level of success. I won't magically become a back marker.

But my key point is that you should not condemn B drivers. For all you know, their points tally may be 29,500. But we don't see the history of who we race at the start. Of which account drivers are using. Think about it.

Treat everyone with respect is the key. Even if the game encourages us to exploit its severe failings with who has done wrong. IMO the game encourages bad behaviour. The game intends drivers to re-set IMO. The majority of drivers have been re-set.

And if a driver is faster than the car in front - even if they are a C driver - then wait for a mistake if the track does not have obvious passing places. And if the driver is good around those passing places - such as an entry to a main straight - then treat them with respect, and take a point penalty at the end of the race. Respecting all drivers is more important than points scores IMO. All drivers deserve that respect IMO.

Although I applaud the optimism, it's pretty easy to tell the difference between someone who deserves their B and someone who does not.

The career B driver, granted not all but a great many, will lay blame at the feet of others. Other people hit them off track. Other people are "dirty". Other people are impatient. They prefer to avoid qualifying to "avoid the carnage from the other people at the front of the field". Or, as you stated, "the game encourages bad behaviour". The list goes on and on and on about the reasons that someone else is the reason for a B rating. Do all those things happen? Yes. yet, we ALL have to deal with it and we are not ALL B drivers who blame everyone else.

Case in point:

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That was from my first win this week in Race C. Not a META car by a long shot. I made a mistake on the first lap. I had to change strategy if I was to be in a position to finish well. I made the choice to switch to Hards on lap 3. I had to deal with the traffic after exiting the pit in 13th position. I had to pick the best places to pass and I had to hope for the race to come back to me. It all paid off in the last two laps where I could exploit the better wear of the hard tires after 7 mistake free laps.

Am I an exceptional person? Nope. I simply care about doing a good job. Blame and excuses won't make a person a better racer.
 
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Your handbrake comes on for a split second, must have an issue with that particular button, change the handbrake to another button and put something else (or nothing) that won't cause an issue (like lights) on that button. ;)

Well I never. this has been going on since January, I just checked out some of my old replays and evry occurance has tha handbrake coming on. I might need to trade my eyeballs in :O

Thanks for the spot, you are a very handsome man :bowdown:👍
 
Again, I did clearly state "career B drivers" but I completely disagree that the majority of B drivers are some better driver's second account. Is there the odd one here or there? Sure.

I am a career DR-B driver, however I am usually hovering around the 27,000 to 31,000 points mark so really close to an A. To me, B is far too wide a points spectrum but i digress. i don't think you can make a blanket statement about such a large group of drivers TBH. Some are reckless, some are slow, some are near A level fast, some use a wheel, some use a controller and some of us, for shame, use the D-pad and are a bit unintentionally sloppy in tight confines.

And having known MP for near on 20 years, i would encourage you to avoid a verbal diarrhea back and forth because he is a master at this and you will just drown in text.

Now, onto other matters .....

GAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Did EVERYTHING right in this race. Sat back a little as P1 and P2 fought, decided not to get involved. Eventually the lambo makes an error and is off. Leaves me with one lap to pass the Megane, which is notoriously slow on the straights.

I get a GREAT run onto the back straight but give him (too much) room on the outside to avoid tangling. I shadow him in the twisties where he is faster than me. Get a perfect run out of the last corner, he slightly messes it up. I've got him, I swear i do. i catch him at JUST the wrong time and in a panic of "I can't lift and i can't hit him so will try to go round him" i run outside the track and am hit with a 1sec penalty dammit.

Worth watching it all but action starts at 6 mins.

 
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Am I an exceptional person? Nope. I simply care about doing a good job. Blame and excuses won't make a person a better racer.

Thanks for your delightful replies - much appreciated. And your dedicated and skilled, which I very much am not.

I'd just mention too, that having D, C and fast B drivers is still part of the game. We just have to handle the game, all aspects of it.

Oh I should mention too, age is another issue. I'm fairly new to GTS and being 65, I can't take it too seriously. It's not like owning an F5000 in the 1970s. I'm not focused in the races either, my mind wanders. Plus I've not spent enough time in the game to properly program my cortex.

I had a couple of races today though, and this week have moved from my 24000 to 33,000, all with my 39.2 qualifying at race B. Before my final race I thought I'd not leave the wheel but drive until the final race for me ie the next race, so I did 4 laps in a row while waiting for the final race today for me. I crossed the right side of the finish line lining up to turn left for the sort of open chicane. With a 39.614 time. Not so bad for practicing for me. Hang on - it was a 38.614. I don't even know why I lapped faster. Lucky I guess. Didn't even save it because I doubted the time, so I don't know what I did. Yeh I don't take it too overly seriously.

But I do get very annoyed by the game's construction. ie it's designed to re-set us which means it's designed for people to hit others. That is actually part of the game. The part that upsets us both I reckon.

I raced against a girl who was much quicker than me in the race. She is almost always a B driver. She's been over 40k though. But she's almost always a B driver. Her consecutive clean race tally is 11. That is almost double your clean tally. I think she is an almost always a B driver because when someone belts into her, she pulls out of the race. That costs lots of points. It hasn't got much to do though with her skill on the track. There's lots of great B drivers out there IMO. And lots of rotten A drivers as well IMO. All part of the game.

The curious thing for me though, is why do you object to bad B drivers? They effect me. But they don't affect A+ at all. A+ drivers start further up the grid than B drivers, and the A+ drivers disappears from view at the first corner.

I am dubious that you've actually raced B drivers. While I consider myself one of them.
 
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