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Race B at Interlagos: Grid P15 Race P8. The first two laps were a pain, getting stuck behind a slower driver and I kept tapping his butt to get him going. Eventually overtook him down the backs straight and collected another few positions up while they're busy tussling and crashing into each other.

Almost got up 1 position but sort of lost my grip while braking into a turn and running wide...1 second penalty for a stupid mistake.
 
Thanks for your delightful replies - much appreciated.

I'd just mention too, that having D, C and fast B drivers is still part of the game. We just have to handle the game, all aspects of it.

I raced against a girl who was much quicker than me in the race. She is almost always a B driver. She's been up well over 40k though. But she's almost always a B driver. Her consecutive clean race tally is 11. I think she is an almost always B driver because when someone belts into her, she pulls out of the race. That costs lots of points. It hasn't got much to do though with her skill on the track. There's lots of great B drivers out there IMO. And lots of rotten A drivers as well IMO.

I would be inclined to argue that quitting a race after getting bumped/messing up actually displays a lack of a certain racing ability. You can’t just quit when the going gets tough or something doesn’t go your way. Being a good racer also includes taking your lumps and sticking around to fight cleanly for whatever’s left of your race. :)
 
It's possible, just not recommended with the current penalty system. I kept getting bumped from behind and run off in the second half by impatient drivers. Even if you leave all the room and the door wide open to let the cars with fresh mediums through, half the time they run into you anyway.

I did a no stop run in the Porsche, got 6 or 7 SR Downs from getting hit from behind and bumped off 3 or 4 times by impatient drivers. I started 9th, went to 15th in the first few laps since I had to brake earlier than medium tire cars which ran me off, reclaimed a few positions, got into 5th after the pit and got bumped off 3 more times to end in 10th. It might go better now (that was on Monday) but you put your race in the hands of all the others on the track.

I'm going to try it with the Lexus today, see if it's viable now.

Cheers Sven. I'll have to set up a private lobby to test fuel/tyre management over the 8 laps, and have a crack at it tonight.

Wireless headset got delivered earlier, so I can stay up nice and late without annoying my brother, and house mate too much.
 
I would be inclined to argue that quitting a race after getting bumped/messing up actually displays a lack of a certain racing ability. You can’t just quit when the going gets tough or something doesn’t go your way. Being a good racer also includes taking your lumps and sticking around to fight cleanly for whatever’s left of your race. :)

I think you mean "Gamer". If you're a real racer and you buy the farm, it's over man.

And hey Alfisti, you do post a lot more than me at Autosport and I can prove it! :cheers: By the way my son is in Vancouver for three days next week - anything he must see?
 
Guess I'm going back to daily races... entered the manufacturers FIA last night and screwed up my flying lap to qualify and ended up with P4. I knew it was going to be a **** show and I wasn't disappointed... punted through T2, punted again 2 turns later, spun completely around and off the track on lap 4 and then pushed through T1 on lap 9. ended up 17th or something, I'm done with FIA races. If you aren't in the top 2 splits on a North American server you are just going to be racing against trash.

The penalty system is broken and the penalty system is all this game had going for it.
 
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I would be inclined to argue that quitting a race after getting bumped/messing up actually displays a lack of a certain racing ability. You can’t just quit when the going gets tough or something doesn’t go your way. Being a good racer also includes taking your lumps and sticking around to fight cleanly for whatever’s left of your race. :)

It ain't over 'til it's over! Story of my gts 'career'. Picked up many a place at the end because of penalties and other what nots when I could easily have just bugged out on lap 1 when someone elses misdemeanors take you from front to the back... Or from the back to even further back as is the norm in my case...
 
I would be inclined to argue that quitting a race after getting bumped/messing up actually displays a lack of a certain racing ability. You can’t just quit when the going gets tough or something doesn’t go your way. Being a good racer also includes taking your lumps and sticking around to fight cleanly for whatever’s left of your race. :)

Agreed, I don't understand this mentality. Just yesterday I witnessed several people quit on lap 1 of Race C because of either spinning out or being bumped off. There's so much time to recover that it just doesn't make sense to outright leave the race. Even if you don't end up recovering or gaining back positions, there's still the chance of someone else leaving or disconnecting. On top of that, it's good practice for future races if you consider it as doing hot laps instead.
 
I hope I can get my time down enough to race today. I am intimidated by Interlagos this week. Normally I'm fairly confident on this track/car. This week I'm slow catching up.

Brazilians absolutely own this track. I really do feel like a lost outsider when on the track with a driver from Brazil. Which I think is pretty cool.

I would be inclined to argue that quitting a race after getting bumped/messing up actually displays a lack of a certain racing ability. You can’t just quit when the going gets tough or something doesn’t go your way. Being a good racer also includes taking your lumps and sticking around to fight cleanly for whatever’s left of your race. :)
Well yeah, that's because you're fast enough to catch up. :mad::lol:
 
I hope I can get my time down enough to race today. I am intimidated by Interlagos this week. Normally I'm fairly confident on this track/car. This week I'm slow catching up.

Brazilians absolutely own this track. I really do feel like a lost outsider when on the track with a driver from Brazil. Which I think is pretty cool.


Well yeah, that's because you're fast enough to catch up. :mad::lol:

I wasn’t always though, go look at my old Q time rankings for my original BoR279 account. They were quite normal before I decided to change my driving style and put in the time to get faster. :)

In all my Sport Mode races I think I’ve only actually hit pause and deliberately quit a race once or maybe twice. I’ve finished races after being knocked/going off track in the first/2nd lap and being farther away from the next driver ahead of me then he is from the leader. :)
 
I have quit one race. I have been disconnected from 2 races and disqualified from 1 when I first started. I came close to quitting my FIA race last night though, Don't think I've ever been more disgusted in people on this game than I was last night
 
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Next Week's races are up:

Race A:
Track: Brands Hatch Indy Circuit, 6 laps
Car: N100 – Provided Car
Tires: Sports Hard

Race B:
Track: Circuit de la Sarthe, 2 laps
Car: Gr.3 – Garage Car
Tires: Racing Medium

Race C:
Track: AUTOPOLIS INTERNATIONAL RACING COURSE, 13 laps
Car: Gr.X/One Make from Garage
Tires: Racing Medium
Fuel use: x8
Tire use: x8
 
I don't understand people leaving races early, last night somebody hit me off early on which cost about 10 seconds but I kept fighting through the race. It took 9 laps but eventually I was able to lose some SR on his rear bumper. Never give up.
 
Next Week's races are up:

Race A:
Track: Brands Hatch Indy Circuit, 6 laps
Car: N100 – Provided Car
Tires: Sports Hard

Race B:
Track: Circuit de la Sarthe, 2 laps
Car: Gr.3 – Garage Car
Tires: Racing Medium

Race C:
Track: AUTOPOLIS INTERNATIONAL RACING COURSE, 13 laps
Car: Gr.X/One Make from Garage
Tires: Racing Medium
Fuel use: x8
Tire use: x8

Ooooh, that’s a different lineup, those combos have some potential. :)
 
I wasn’t always though, go look at my old Q time rankings for my original BoR279 account. They were quite normal before I decided to change my driving style and put in the time to get faster. :)

In all my Sport Mode races I think I’ve only actually hit pause and deliberately quit a race once or maybe twice. I’ve finished races after being knocked/going off track in the first/2nd lap and being farther away from the next driver ahead of me then he is from the leader. :)
I quit one about a month or two ago because I was bored to death. It was at a Fuji C race, and about 1.5 laps into it, I realized I was getting no enjoyment at all from it, and was repulsed by the idea of having to do 11 more laps. :yuck: I don't know why I even entered. :lol:
 
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I wasn’t always though, go look at my old Q time rankings for my original BoR279 account. They were quite normal before I decided to change my driving style and put in the time to get faster. :)

In all my Sport Mode races I think I’ve only actually hit pause and deliberately quit a race once or maybe twice. I’ve finished races after being knocked/going off track in the first/2nd lap and being farther away from the next driver ahead of me then he is from the leader. :)

Absolutely. Not only are you faster. You are always prepared. 👍

I don't quit that often. I do complain about it often. :D
 
Glad to see that Circuit de la Sarthe still exists. I've been waiting for this, since the rules for serving penalties changed. At that track, I used to take a lot of chances during qualifying, knowing that it would be easy to scrub any penalty time.

*I'm gonna level with you guys; In qualifying, I used to cut the corner at the Dunlop chicane, taking the penalty on purpose, knowing I could coast into the Porsche Curves to lose the time. :guilty: Definitely not just me, though. I've seen plenty of top 10 times at Sarthe that had no replay available. :odd:

Now it's going to be way different. Your whole lap will be nullified. I can imagine hitting "Retry" over and over again. :lol:

Also, during the race, if you have to serve a penalty on one of the long straights, you'll be really screwed. A 1 second penalty might cost you 5 seconds overall, due to momentum loss.

Need to figure out which Gr.3 car has the best top speed.
 
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Absolutely. Not only are you faster. You are always prepared. 👍

I don't quit that often. I do complain about it often. :D

Thanks man, I try my best to be anyways, pobodies nerfect though. :)

Anytime you ever wanna work on a track/car just let me know man, I’d be more than happy to join you in a lobby for some practice laps. :)
 
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Last night I got hate mail from a dude from B ranks. I won't repeat it because it was ...umm...colourful. Want to know what happened? I had to go to the bathroom, so once I crossed the finish line, off I went. Apparently, in my absence, he had congratulated me and I didn't respond. Because of my lack of response, I got hate mail.

That is emotional. Calling something utter nonsense is not emotional, especially when it's utter nonsense.



I did clearly state "career B drivers" so as to differentiate between someone who may be passing through the B ranks, but I (like many A and A+ drivers) use a controller. So, blaming the controller for a B rating is, again, utter nonsense.



Hmmm... interesting. So, you are saying that a person, who on a regular basis just hops into a race without practice, their rank is because of poor finishing position rather than lack of practice?

So, "racing" doesn't happen at the sharp end of the field? Really? I must have been doing it wrong all this time.

What term did I use? Oh right, utter nonsense.

If a person chooses to start at the back, they are choosing to be a career B driver. If they are indeed "A level fast" then a few moments to set a time would put them in the top half of the field, where they can still be racing, but racing with people of their own level.



I do this all the time. No, I don't go out and take the worst possible car for an event, but I put mileage on everything. I even go out of my way quite often to avoid the META car because I feel I am taking the easy way out.

It hasn't affected my score.



"Not the (B) player's fault" is the mantra of the B player. I've had poor connections. It's never "cost me points in traffic".

So far, you're rebuttal is supporting my "utter nonsense" statement.



Again, I did clearly state "career B drivers" but I completely disagree that the majority of B drivers are some better driver's second account. Is there the odd one here or there? Sure. I've been up and down the scale myself. However, my DR status has never changed my approach to a race nor has it ever substantially and profoundly altered my DR so that I REMAIN a lower ranked driver. Have I run people off in anger in the past? Sure. Has that condemned me to lower ranks? No.

I wager that If I make a second account, I will qualify at the same level and end up at the same level of success. I won't magically become a back marker.



Although I applaud the optimism, it's pretty easy to tell the difference between someone who deserves their B and someone who does not.

The career B driver, granted not all but a great many, will lay blame at the feet of others. Other people hit them off track. Other people are "dirty". Other people are impatient. They prefer to avoid qualifying to "avoid the carnage from the other people at the front of the field". Or, as you stated, "the game encourages bad behaviour". The list goes on and on and on about the reasons that someone else is the reason for a B rating. Do all those things happen? Yes. yet, we ALL have to deal with it and we are not ALL B drivers who blame everyone else.

Case in point:

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That was from my first win this week in Race C. Not a META car by a long shot. I made a mistake on the first lap. I had to change strategy if I was to be in a position to finish well. I made the choice to switch to Hards on lap 3. I had to deal with the traffic after exiting the pit in 13th position. I had to pick the best places to pass and I had to hope for the race to come back to me. It all paid off in the last two laps where I could exploit the better wear of the hard tires after 7 mistake free laps.

Am I an exceptional person? Nope. I simply care about doing a good job. Blame and excuses won't make a person a better racer.

Thanks for your delightful replies - much appreciated. And your dedicated and skilled, which I very much am not.

I'd just mention too, that having D, C and fast B drivers is still part of the game. We just have to handle the game, all aspects of it.

Oh I should mention too, age is another issue. I'm fairly new to GTS and being 65, I can't take it too seriously. It's not like owning an F5000 in the 1970s. I'm not focused in the races either, my mind wanders. Plus I've not spent enough time in the game to properly program my cortex.

I had a couple of races today though, and this week have moved from my 24000 to 33,000, all with my 39.2 qualifying at race B. Before my final race I thought I'd not leave the wheel but drive until the final race for me ie the next race, so I did 4 laps in a row while waiting for the final race today for me. I crossed the right side of the finish line lining up to turn left for the sort of open chicane. With a 39.614 time. Not so bad for practicing for me. Hang on - it was a 38.614. I don't even know why I lapped faster. Lucky I guess. Didn't even save it because I doubted the time, so I don't know what I did. Yeh I don't take it too overly seriously.

But I do get very annoyed by the game's construction. ie it's designed to re-set us which means it's designed for people to hit others. That is actually part of the game. The part that upsets us both I reckon.

I raced against a girl who was much quicker than me in the race. She is almost always a B driver. She's been over 40k though. But she's almost always a B driver. Her consecutive clean race tally is 11. That is almost double your clean tally. I think she is an almost always a B driver because when someone belts into her, she pulls out of the race. That costs lots of points. It hasn't got much to do though with her skill on the track. There's lots of great B drivers out there IMO. And lots of rotten A drivers as well IMO. All part of the game.

The curious thing for me though, is why do you object to bad B drivers? They effect me. But they don't affect A+ at all. A+ drivers start further up the grid than B drivers, and the A+ drivers disappears from view at the first corner.

I am dubious that you've actually raced B drivers. While I consider myself one of them.

I'm inclined to agree with @Voodoovaj . I also have little time to race due to responsabilities, being a father and so on, and learn all the querks of a track/car combination, but even with that situation the little i race has been a constant climb in DR, i'm now at 40k.
You never quit, and i got a long time racing with C and B and always went up, because although is racing, race craft needs an clear understanding of a safe driving, and not only to avoid bumping someone but particulary to avoid being punted, to antecipate what is going to happen. Even in bad days where i wasnt feeling confident driving my DR was going up, because i would adjust my driving to those circumstances and take advantage of what is happening around me instead of forcing a result, and although i only have like 23 wins on sport mode in 260 races i always went up. That also is a testament to the DR going up, because i'm not fastest, but i was consistent and alert and was always being set up with better drivers than me. Offcourse im getting better with time, and can now be most of time between 1 and 1.5 s of the top drivers.

But the most important for me is not pace per si but race craft and consistency. There is no value IMO to the kind of racer like one i just read today in the GTS FB group that was posting and congratulating himself for having 512 wins and then his stats are like roller coasters where he was A for a day and then always B or C and SR never got to S...

Just my oppinion, because i beleive that even a driver that is not fast but is clean and mindfull and dont win much (Hi rubbens barrichelo) can get to race with the great ones and get to A+.

Keep racing guys and if you dont go for that gap than your are not a racing driver anymore. (just irony)
 
:lol: You asked me this in the previous page. I started a new game... again.

Can't remember the last time I piloted the RCZ, but hot damn! The closing speed is ridiculous. I think you're right about the Lancer and maybe the WRx as well. After I passed the Huracan on the last lap, the WRX was 3.7 seconds away. At the exit of the final turn, it pulled 3.2 seconds on me. My climb up the hill and nearing the pits, the gap was quickly falling to the 2.9 seconds at the finish.
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My best times are with the Evo & WRX. Gave the Mazda a few runs last night, think my braking balance is set so gonna try after lunch.
 
Brazilians absolutely own this track. I really do feel like a lost outsider when on the track with a driver from Brazil. Which I think is pretty cool.

Open an Asian account and see what happens when Bathurst crops up in the line up ;).

I don't understand people leaving races early, last night somebody hit me off early on which cost about 10 seconds but I kept fighting through the race. It took 9 laps but eventually I was able to lose some SR on his rear bumper. Never give up.

I kinda take the attitude from endurance racing. Cars can take incredible amounts of damage, end up back in the pits on a flatbed, but teams will still try to do all they can to get it back on the track. I seem to get knocked back places on a regular basis, but still keep going. I've been knocked from P3 to P20 and still finished...P10 I think. At least twice I've done a lap at 80km/h from not figuring out where the pit entrance is or getting re-set on the track after stuffing up pit entry (hello Mount Panorama :p). Still finished. interesting things can happen that you miss out on if you just give up :eek:.
 
Next Week's races are up:

Race A:
Track: Brands Hatch Indy Circuit, 6 laps
Car: N100 – Provided Car
Tires: Sports Hard

Race B:
Track: Circuit de la Sarthe, 2 laps
Car: Gr.3 – Garage Car
Tires: Racing Medium

Race C:
Track: AUTOPOLIS INTERNATIONAL RACING COURSE, 13 laps
Car: Gr.X/One Make from Garage
Tires: Racing Medium
Fuel use: x8
Tire use: x8

Promising... maybe Monza, St Croix, Alsace will be making an appearance sometime in the next few weeks then.
 
I'd be amazed if it was anything other than the Super Formula Toyota but I said that last time.
But BoP is set to On instead of None.. So I'm not sure what to think anymore..
The SF cars don't habe BoP, not sure if it's also the case for the Red Bull
 
Is being disqualified from a race still a thing? I remember it being enforced and when watching replays in the past, the perpetrator car was automatically slowed down and removed from the race.

I watched a recent replay and there was a clown who decided he was playing GTA instead. Bumping, slowing down to block people and intentionally knocking them off the track for several laps. No disqualification. I wasn't directly involved with them but it was disgusting to see.
 
Is being disqualified from a race still a thing? I remember it being enforced and when watching replays in the past, the perpetrator car was automatically slowed down and removed from the race.

I watched a recent replay and there was a clown who decided he was playing GTA instead. Bumping, slowing down to block people and intentionally knocking them off the track for several laps. No disqualification. I wasn't directly involved with them but it was disgusting to see.

In my case its when I first started playing the game, I was too inexperienced to be racing online and was getting hit in the corners and taking SR down alot and I finished one race with the warning that next one I would be kicked... the next race I was punted in a corner and was kicked from the race.
 
Is being disqualified from a race still a thing? I remember it being enforced and when watching replays in the past, the perpetrator car was automatically slowed down and removed from the race.

I watched a recent replay and there was a clown who decided he was playing GTA instead. Bumping, slowing down to block people and intentionally knocking them off the track for several laps. No disqualification. I wasn't directly involved with them but it was disgusting to see.

I got a warning about it last week after being hit by multiple cars in quick succession, quite what I could do when it was carnage everywhere and I was facing the wrong way and then slow and in the way whilst recovering, I'm not sure.
 
Open an Asian account and see what happens when Bathurst crops up in the line up ;).
I'd actually love that. It's like visiting a track on vacation and racing with the locals.

I'd love it if all the chat was in the native language on each track too. Portuguese on Interlagos, French on Sarthe, German on NBR, etc... that way at least we can learn how to say "good luck", "have a good race", etc... in different languages.
 
I quit one about a month or two ago because I was bored to death. It was at a Fuji C race, and about 1.5 laps into it, I realized I was getting no enjoyment at all from it, and was repulsed by the idea of having to do 11 more laps. :yuck: I don't know why I even entered. :lol:

i feel the same way every time i start a lap at Fuji, so decided not to do it anymore. It's just AWFUL.
 
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