"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[QC YALUM]

This is not really applicable. If you are on the east coast of USA you might very well have a much faster connection to Europe than to Chile. Also, why would I in Scandinavia have a better connection with South Africa than someone in Asia?

if u are on est cost u are supposed to play on America server . Server are separated and we are supposed to play on server we are from distance is not the point when we talk about a Internet server more distance in America but much less player by region . Anyway the point is we are supposed to play on the server we are from if people cant understand this

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I don't know where the servers are but for playing across the globe, this might be helpful

Someone on the west coast of the USA has a much better (more direct) connection to Japan than to Brazil.
West coast of Australia takes a lot of hops to Japan.
I'm in between the great lakes, lot of detours to get anywhere.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

Off course this happens when I'm one race away from the clean races achievement:

 

[TheMoose]

Off course this happens when I'm one race away from the clean races achievement:

why would you pass him seeing what he just did? I'd have let the car behind thru & passed when he got crashed.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@sturk0167 You missed your chance again.

Back to the max SR room for one race. I was in 6th setting up my pass on 5th when he targeted me for no reason. Probably since I reported him again yesterday lol. He kept driving slow the last lap trying to take out people as they passed so I stayed a safe distance behind him not risking my clean race by getting near him.

I saved the replay this time, here's the whole race:

The last couple laps is where the real mess is, but tbh the whole race at the top was dirty from the start. More people likely know him by now so no wonder. The driver that finished behind me especially carried a grudge. I get punted at the end of lap 10, it looks like he targeted me. A stalker yay.

Anyway prime time SR.S racing. This is exactly why I do not qualify, no thank you driving with that stuff going on at the front.

 

[splitwindow]

I don't know where the servers are but for playing across the globe, this might be helpful

Someone on the west coast of the USA has a much better (more direct) connection to Japan than to Brazil.
West coast of Australia takes a lot of hops to Japan.
I'm in between the great lakes, lot of detours to get anywhere.

I'm not sure how much distance plays a part as opposed to also taking into account the capacity of the infrastructure in place.
If you want to connect from west coast USA to Tokyo, or east coast to Europe, it looks like you've got a relative 10 lane super freeway to get over there, as opposed to what might comparatively be a single lane dirt road to get to Argentina.

Edit: Or maybe I'm completely wrong, here's a couple of interesting tests
https://www.cloudping.info/ This doesn't seem entirely accurate with my experience however it might be a stick in the ground to give perspective to some comparisons.

This however https://www.meter.net/ping-test/is a bit closer to how I expect things should be.
Of course you then have to also take into account where and how PD are running their servers on top of that.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

if u are on est cost u are supposed to play on America server . Server are separated and we are supposed to play on server we are from distance is not the point when we talk about a Internet server more distance in America but much less player by region . Anyway the point is we are supposed to play on the server we are from if people cant understand this

So, what is the harm caused by a player sometimes choosing to play in Europe even if he lives in the US? It's not as if he breaks a written rule..
Do you think that this player robs America of a player?

 

[Cap'n Jack]

So, what is the harm caused by a player sometimes choosing to play in Europe even if he lives in the US? It's not as if he breaks a written rule..
Do you think that this player robs America of a player?

Packet loss aside (which is still an issue when playing within your own region), playing outside your own region should only be an issue in the FIA championships, especially so if you’re running in the top split where you can potentially take points from people who are legitimately aiming to win either championship. As long as your car isn’t unpredictably darting all over the track, there’s no harm in running within the daily races as far as I’m concerned.

 

[The_Tullster]

I'm not sure how much distance plays a part as opposed to also taking into account the capacity of the infrastructure in place.
If you want to connect from west coast USA to Tokyo, or east coast to Europe, it looks like you've got a relative 10 lane super freeway to get over there, as opposed to what might comparatively be a single lane dirt road to get to Argentina.

Edit: Or maybe I'm completely wrong, here's a couple of interesting tests
https://www.cloudping.info/ This doesn't seem entirely accurate with my experience however it might be a stick in the ground to give perspective to some comparisons.

This however https://www.meter.net/ping-test/is a bit closer to how I expect things should be.
Of course you then have to also take into account where and how PD are running their servers on top of that.

Unless the connection is swamped at some point causing packets to queue or drop, distance and number of hops are the primary influences on ping. The signal travels close to the speed of light, further you go, longer it takes. At each "hop" (repeater, router, multiplexer, etc that the signal travels through) a small amount of extra delay is added.

Both the sites you linked are showing about what I'd expect. The differences are easily accounted for by variations in routing and in response time at the endpoints.

A bigger problem is outdated technology, poorly maintained line and those who insist that a mobile internet connection is OK to play on (the last group are just plain wrong, no matter how green their ping).

 

[watto79]

Had a play with next week's race c settings and it looks to be a fuel saving race. Tyres will be somewhat worn if one set is used for 10 laps but not unmanageable.

I can't remember what all the best fuel saving Gr.4 cars are but tried the Porsche, which was excellent and the Ferrari, which was also very good but a bit more thirsty than the Porsche.

The Lambo was terrible on fuel. Expect to see that used for qualifying but not for the race.

It may be that going all out and pitting for fuel is viable. I didn't really test that.

 

[Invisigoth]

A bigger problem is outdated technology, poorly maintained line and those who insist that a mobile internet connection is OK to play on (the last group are just plain wrong, no matter how green their ping).

<shrug> When the digbys faffing with the NBN decided it was a really good idea to cut cable internet/tv for 30 hours, and the so called "smart" modem kicked over to cell, I didn't notice a difference. A crappy connection to Japan is still a crappy connection to Japan .

 

[Veinz]

I might test the NSX today for next week’s race C. IIRC, it’s very good on fuel and tires.

The lambo might be the outright fastest though.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

why would you pass him seeing what he just did? I'd have let the car behind thru & passed when he got crashed.

I guess I really didn't expect him to do it again. I reckoned his deal was with the other guy only, since I was a far back in the previous lap and didn't saw who started or what happened.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I'm not sure how much distance plays a part as opposed to also taking into account the capacity of the infrastructure in place.
If you want to connect from west coast USA to Tokyo, or east coast to Europe, it looks like you've got a relative 10 lane super freeway to get over there, as opposed to what might comparatively be a single lane dirt road to get to Argentina.

Edit: Or maybe I'm completely wrong, here's a couple of interesting tests
https://www.cloudping.info/ This doesn't seem entirely accurate with my experience however it might be a stick in the ground to give perspective to some comparisons.

This however https://www.meter.net/ping-test/is a bit closer to how I expect things should be.
Of course you then have to also take into account where and how PD are running their servers on top of that.

Thanks for the link, I was looking for a jitter test.

As expected, I have a better connection to Europe than to Brazil. Tokyo only slightly slower (177ms vs 169ms average) from where I am. The region split is pretty pointless if it's to combat lag.

 

[QC YALUM]

I don't know where the servers are but for playing across the globe, this might be helpful

Someone on the west coast of the USA has a much better (more direct) connection to Japan than to Brazil.
West coast of Australia takes a lot of hops to Japan.
I'm in between the great lakes, lot of detours to get anywhere.

this is not GTS server ? And i won't argue with people who cant understand something simple as . We are supposed to play on the server we are from lolll .

 

[Veinz]

this is not GTS server ? And i won't argue with people who cant understand something simple as . We are supposed to play on the server we are from lolll .

We do get it, we just don’t care.

Sony also makes it super easy, I dislike the region lock anyway.

Edit: pretty sure that pic is of all the underwater internet cables

 

[O604]

this is not GTS server ? And i won't argue with people who cant understand something simple as . We are supposed to play on the server we are from lolll .

According to who?

ie. A Japanese person living in the US may want to play with other Japanese speakers and friends in Japan. Let them.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

this is not GTS server ? And i won't argue with people who cant understand something simple as . We are supposed to play on the server we are from lolll .

No that's the hi-speed backbone infrastructure. Sure light travels at about 200 million meters per second through fibre optic cable, or 5 ms per 1,000 km, but there are no straight lines and any hop (server in between) adds a tiny delay. The more direct your connection, for example west coast usa to Japan, the better, less jitter, faster. To South America the data has to travel further along more hops.

 

[senzr]

Just got my first win of the year in Race C! Feels great, this is only my 3rd win in over 200 races. Catalunya and the Gr.3 Mazda have been a great combo for me.

I started by dropping my quali time my a huge (for me) 8 tenths to 1:47.7 after watching the replay for Asia’s top time (~1:44). Started a race with my new quali time and got placed 6th in a room with mostly B/S drivers.

Lap 1, Turn 1, the 4th place 911 misses his braking point and takes out 3rd and 2nd place, instantly promoting myself and the Merc in front of me. I stay on his tail with a 0.5 sec gap, keeping the pressure on until he washes wide at the first hairpin on Lap 2, handing me 2nd place!

I try to stay cool and keep my **** together, but I’m no match for the NSX in 1st place. He’s lapping at 1:47-1:48, I’m losing just under 2 seconds a lap to him. I start short-shifting because the calculations show I’m short of about 0.3 laps of fuel. But then a miracle happens on Lap 9.

NSX builds a near 20-second gap and pits at the end of lap 9. I take 1st with 2 laps to go! But I’m still a little short on fuel, so I keep short-shifting on Lap 10. I’ve got a 3.5 sec gap with the 2nd place Merc, and my nerves are getting to me. He’s gaining, and by the start of the final lap, he’s just 2 seconds behind. With 1.2 laps of fuel left, I rev the Atenza for all it’s worth, maintaining the 2-second gap all the way to the finish. Victory at last!!

That’s why I still love this game. It’s frustrating and yet, so utterly rewarding when the stars line up. So glad to end this week on a high. Looking forward to next week’s Race C.

Now if you excuse me, I’ll just savour this moment and go watch that replay again.

 

[The_Tullster]

... Victory at last!!

That’s why I still love this game. It’s frustrating and yet, so utterly rewarding when the stars line up. So glad to end this week on a high. Looking forward to next week’s Race C.

Now if you excuse me, I’ll just savour this moment and go watch that replay again.

Well done

 

[fisheye]

Catalunya is obviously not one of my stronger tracks.
Today, I tried some of the cars people on here have been using.

All assits off apart from ABS default.

Evo - 1:47.550. I haven't used this car much. Did 10 laps here today. Felt ok. Deffo more time in it.
Mazda - 1:47.258. Can see why people have been using it. Maybe 10 laps in this too.
Merc AMG - 1:47.242. Never used this car in sport mode before. 50 odd laps. I liked it here, but couldn't dip below 1:47. BB at -1 for my best lap. I couldn't quite tell if I preferred it at plus or minus BB. Maybe I just need to stick to one BB setting and bash out some more laps in it.

Jumped in the Audi......1:46.715. Finally! 50 odd laps. Optimal is 1:46.219. Car felt good here. I enjoyed it post-update at Maggoire too. Didn't rate it at Sardegna C.

I wanted to do some races ths week, but I might as well take the opportunity to test some more Group 3 cars out.

Try the Citroën. I did most of the laps full lean until the last lap (bypassing a pit stop) and came in 3rd. I started at the end. It was quite slippery the last 2 laps but manageable.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Another weeks clean race from the back project complete.

I started with the '17 Lexus and ended with the '16 Lexus. Despite being faster myself, the field is also much stronger at the end of the week. 9th vs 3rd place finish. I did one more race with the meta car after, got to 9th, was passing 8th and another was serving a penalty until I got bumped into another car and fell back to 11th. As soon as you near the front of the field racing becomes a door banging mess especially near the penalty zone. I still got the crb and ended on a clean streak of 5, but didn't improve my 7th place finish in the 911 from earlier in the week.

The highest my clean streak got up to was 8 before getting bumped from behind for a reset. The only way to get to 15 is to pull over when someone closes in from behind while you're patiently driving behind traffic. I had to pull over a bunch of times anyway when getting boxed in by laggy connections all around, aggressive driving plus lag is the worst.

There is a bit of a shift in when it's best to race. It used to be Fridays were cleanest, however now it's more mornings that are cleanest. Easy to get CRB in the morning, very hard in the evening, doesn't matter which day.

My DR initially went up on Monday morning, yet the evening races quickly bumped me back down to DR.B where it settled on 24K

I started on SR 55 after the Tokyo mess last Sunday, hence the easy podium in the Lexus '17 first race.

Fun track, yet fuel saving really makes most cars pretty useless. The M6 is the worst by far, shifting before the bar shows and staying one gear higher through corners. Avg laps of mid 1:51 with a best of 1:50.8, useless. The 911 is the meta for a reason, good brakes, good on fuel, but I got a slightly faster lap in the Vette. Probably from using a bit more fuel in that lap. You need to shift very early in the Vette as well. Anyway good exercise in fuel pacing, I never entered the pit this week (well once to sit out a lost cause race) an ever ran out of fuel, all in fm1.

This clean racing in all cars is starting to become a meta goal, 5 gr.3 tracks cleared so far (N24, Sarthe, Monza, Brand's Hatch, Catalunya) and two GR.4 tracks (Big Willow, Bathurst). Next week DT: Seaside ?

It will never be all tracks, driving 35 cars on Fuji, never!

 

[golfer07840]

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A bigger problem is outdated technology, poorly maintained line and those who insist that a mobile internet connection is OK to play on (the last group are just plain wrong, no matter how green their ping).

I do not understand how someone doesn't play online via hardwire connection. This isn't billiards on Yahoo! circa 2000. Dropped wifi and using your cellphone as a hotspot with this game isn't going to cut it.

 

[sturk0167]

Next week DT: Seaside ?

Tough one. Regarding the bus stop: Will they ghost, or won't they?

 

[Qyn]

yep, good to go! just create a new user on the PS4 and go through the various steps - the only thing you do need is a different email address.... and patience to go through building up some cash to buy a car!! I only have the Megane on my US account so far, plus a couple of other freebie road cars that i'll never use.
See you on the other side bro

I'm really really thinking about it!

 

[DelboyD]

Try the Citroën. I did most of the laps full lean until the last lap (bypassing a pit stop) and came in 3rd. I started at the end. It was quite slippery the last 2 laps but manageable.

Thanks for the tip, but I never got around to racing today.

I tried the Porsche, Alfa, NSX and Lambo for hot laps. I couldn't get below 1:47 in any of them.

I did go back to Autopolis and the WRX. Got down to a 1:53.041. Opt was below 53, but couldn't nail.

 

[Qyn]

@sturk0167 You missed your chance again.

Back to the max SR room for one race. I was in 6th setting up my pass on 5th when he targeted me for no reason. Probably since I reported him again yesterday lol. He kept driving slow the last lap trying to take out people as they passed so I stayed a safe distance behind him not risking my clean race by getting near him.

I saved the replay this time, here's the whole race:

The last couple laps is where the real mess is, but tbh the whole race at the top was dirty from the start. More people likely know him by now so no wonder. The driver that finished behind me especially carried a grudge. I get punted at the end of lap 10, it looks like he targeted me. A stalker yay.

Anyway prime time SR.S racing. This is exactly why I do not qualify, no thank you driving with that stuff going on at the front.

Man, what is their 🤬 problem? I've been on the track with them in the past, and it was the same 🤬 thing!

 

[Chevy Heavy]

It was fun racing with you guys in the weekly lobby last night. Sorry if I held you up as I didn't actually do any daily races this week just qual laps. And I think it showed as I spent a lot of time mowing grass, lol. Just a small suggestion @Pigems , maybe you could post here on the forum what the bonus races are going to be. That way we could have a car ready and get to run some practice laps before the lobby opens. I know I need more than a few minutes to get used a car/track combo. Any how always enjoy close clean races so thanks. Just checked my schedule and I probably won't be able to make next week's lobby, but look forward to seeing y'all on the track soon. I'm going to have to find time to race DT Seaside this week as I really enjoy that track.

 

[sturk0167]

I'm going to have to find time to race DT Seaside this week as I really enjoy that track.

I like the track, too. Even though I'm pretty lousy at it. In the last Gr.4 race at Seaside, I qualified 1,028th.
I'll probably just race from the back, unless I can figure out what I'm doing wrong in the Time Trail mode.
Either way, I'll still do some races there, because it's fun and I like the mountains in the background. 👍

 

[Scotchboy]

Back again for the final day of this week.
Tried one Race C. I got SR downs again for anything happening around me. Other drivers hit me or punt me off so I get punished. Now down to SR C, my lowest SR ever. I don't understand.

Edit* nobody in the next race (I was B/C amongst D/B) understood the idea of FM strategy so I won by a very long way. Back up to mid-SR B. Woo.