"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Granadier]

Was placed into 3 lobbies with Turismo-deafsun tonight. Full sweat.

Tried to hold onto my A rank as best I could but screwed up a race on lap 2 and finished 16th which bumped me back down to B rank. Need to increase my race pace before I can hang with these A/A+ lobbies.

 

[sturk0167]

Was placed into 3 lobbies with Turismo-deafsun tonight. Full sweat.

Tried to hold onto my A rank as best I could but screwed up a race on lap 2 and finished 16th which bumped me back down to B rank. Need to increase my race pace before I can hang with these A/A+ lobbies.

Never seen him. He's probably avoiding me.
Did you try the divebomb?

 

[El_Beardo]

Decent night on the EMEA servers. Gaining DR at this level is so much more difficult than it was at B. But, that's to be expected. Up to 40,820.

Struggling slightly for race pace. But, I'm only a few tenths off where I'd like to be.

 

[Granadier]

Never seen him. He's probably avoiding me.
Did you try the divebomb?

From 10th, yeah. It didn't work out too well. Really thought I had a chance.

 

[The_Tullster]

Whatever the 'reason', I think he gets points for accuracy.

2 times in a row it's bullseye o'clock! Seen many a kill attempt miss by a country mile.

Which speaks alarmingly of how much practice he must have had at lining up targets....

On the time of day thing, aren't track lighting conditions in GT Sport pre-rendered for fixed times of day to save on processing overhead? If so, with the game in it's current state it would not be technically possible to have dynamic time of day based on location without major, MAJOR modifications to the graphics engine and possibly having to sacrifice the higher resolutions and scenery detail to maintain framerate.

 

[NoStopN]

I was so close last night, I was pacing back and forth. The light saber was blinging, and the shadow realm was tugging at its newest soldier. Talk about seeing red?

Join us on the dark side. We have cookies.

Also, any comments on the GR1 tyre wear at Fuji from controller users - I haven't given it a look in as I usually find it too hard to manage vs wheel users?

Tire wear when using a DS4 is just part & parcel for the game in my opinion. If I'm going to smoke those tires, I had better make the best I can out of them while they still have some grip.

Been spending my time in the lobbies lately but I like Sainte-Croix. Currently drinking my coffee and trying to memorize deafsun’s replay, lol. What is a good BB setting on the GTR?

The QT I posted last night was with a +1. Zero doesn't give me enough rotation through the turns. I tried +2, but something just felt off while running that.

I have given up understanding how brake balance helps handling. Last week I ran the Mégane at +5 to negate the understeer, this week I run the Merc at -5 to get good turn-in. I don't understand how or why. But it seems to work for me.

I think it would be interesting to see people's driving styles & try them for myself. Pushing the BB all the way to one extreme or the other just seems like pure lunacy to me. The most BB I have on any of my cars is -2 on both race Vipers & it works like a charm for me. Every other car is set between -1 & +1.

I usually start at 0 and if I can make the tricky corners without locking up I leave it there. Then I look at the go to whoa at sharp corners like at the end of Conrod. I'm not subtle, so my driving style tends to be decisive and committed to the Fred Flintstone method. Brake bias is nearly always to the front. No left foot because I use the stick, RC style. The problem I often find is that even though I usually brake earlier than most, I still end up shunting people with full braking .

All I can say is yabba-dabba-doo. As for your shunting problem, use the BB to transfer the weight of the car & help with turning the car.

I just wanted to stop in and say, that the GR3 GTR is a big steaming pile of dog poo.

That is all.

Strangely, I agree & don't agree with you. I looked at the specs for my favorite cars (Viper, Mustang, Ford GT, Corvette) & the GT-R has over 600 HP while the others have under 590. Also, the other cars are over 2950 lbs. while the GT-R is just below 2900. I can see why the GT-R is meta for the week. In traffic though, it drives like an oil covered ice rink. Qualifying is easy in the GT-R for me, but for the race, I need a different car.

The Gr1 cars are just encouraging push to pass now. Two races in a row the same driver just pushes their way past in T1 of lap 1 and then just holds me up. The 2nd race in particular, like why, after the 1st race they must know I'm faster but would rather push past and then defend hard for lap after lap. I even ran off the track on purpose the 2nd time but as expected I lost out more than they did but soon enough I was right behind them again, eventually I managed to sneak past into turn 1, after they had weaved all down the straight, as was always likely to happen but by then I had no time to catch other cars, that I probably would have finished ahead of and the annoying driver lost another spot too, so actually lost out more than I did.

And this is why I'm not anywhere close to being FIA caliber. If someone shoved me over to pass & I get back to them, I will push back. I'll take whatever BS penalty it dishes out that it didn't dish out to the other driver.

If anyone is looking for a good alternative to the GT-R at St. Croix, the Peugeot VGT is a good choice. I was able to do a 2:07.0 after only a few laps in qualifying, compared to my 2:06.9 in the Nissan. I'll admit that I'm not the best at using the GT-R though. I struggle getting the power down out of the slower speed corners compared to people like Deafsun.

I'm pretty sure Lamb's 2:06.7 is with the DS4. It definitely looked like that when I watched his replay the other night.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Well, this is nice.... Last night's power cut made my SR drop to bloody 39. Last week was the first drop in SR from S since I got up there. Now it seems I have a mountain to climb...

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

Question: how many races do you guys average a day?

2 races in the morning between 7.30am and 8am on my Euro account before going to work, and then 2 more races at lunchtime on my NA account.

If it happens to be a good race C combo, then 1 race per account each day.

I daren't touch the game at the weekend; it's a lot more volatile!

Well, this is nice.... Last night's power cut made my SR drop to bloody 39. Last week was the first drop in SR from S since I got up there. Now it seems I have a mountain to climb...

Northern Cali, I suppose?

 

[Qyn]

Join us on the dark side. We have cookies.



Tire wear when using a DS4 is just part & parcel for the game in my opinion. If I'm going to smoke those tires, I had better make the best I can out of them while they still have some grip.



The QT I posted last night was with a +1. Zero doesn't give me enough rotation through the turns. I tried +2, but something just felt off while running that.



I think it would be interesting to see people's driving styles & try them for myself. Pushing the BB all the way to one extreme or the other just seems like pure lunacy to me. The most BB I have on any of my cars is -2 on both race Vipers & it works like a charm for me. Every other car is set between -1 & +1.



All I can say is yabba-dabba-doo. As for your shunting problem, use the BB to transfer the weight of the car & help with turning the car.



Strangely, I agree & don't agree with you. I looked at the specs for my favorite cars (Viper, Mustang, Ford GT, Corvette) & the GT-R has over 600 HP while the others have under 590. Also, the other cars are over 2950 lbs. while the GT-R is just below 2900. I can see why the GT-R is meta for the week. In traffic though, it drives like an oil covered ice rink. Qualifying is easy in the GT-R for me, but for the race, I need a different car.



And this is why I'm not anywhere close to being FIA caliber. If someone shoved me over to pass & I get back to them, I will push back. I'll take whatever BS penalty it dishes out that it didn't dish out to the other driver.

I like cookies.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Northern Cali, I suppose?

Sweden, actually. Some one ran a truck into a transformation station.

 

[JoeyLeonine]

Sweden, actually. Some one ran a truck into a transformation station.

Good effort, that.

 

[6BK]

Question: how many races do you guys average a day?

Some weeks I don’t get online at all. An average is a few hot laps on a Monday when the race goes live, 20-30. Then perhaps 2 to 3 races every second eve with hot laps between races.

Like any activity, you can only judge your performance and improvement relative to your own past scores and and your personal situation. Comparing your times with players who have raced online for years and or have plenty of time to practice is not realistic if you are new to the game and have little time.

Do your best and play fair.

 

[FUNanywhere]

Race B is super fun but SR Killer.

Down to B B

 

[Invisigoth]

Like any activity, you can only judge your performance and improvement relative to your own past scores and and your personal situation.

Even then it can be difficult. They keep changing things with updates, so the time you set under the same conditions 6 months ago may not be comparable to the times set now.

 

[250Cal]

I did 2:09 with DS4, TCS 2, A/T and an X button throttle. Matt Jones surely does at least 2:08 with his DS4.

TCS 2 is costing you a chunk of time. A/T a bit, too.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Decent night on the EMEA servers. Gaining DR at this level is so much more difficult than it was at B. But, that's to be expected. Up to 40,820.

Struggling slightly for race pace. But, I'm only a few tenths off where I'd like to be.

The second of those is the one where you got pushed into a black hole at turn 1 whilst I escaped. All because of 0.002s difference in qualifying.

 

[6BK]

Even then it can be difficult. They keep changing things with updates, so the time you set under the same conditions 6 months ago may not be comparable to the times set now.

Back to the reason that I used my % off region pole as a guide for my qualifying. If 6 months ago my stats on Kudosprime said that my Q time was generally region best plus 5%, and now it says I'm plus 2.5%, then that's an improvement. Since the updates effect everyone in the same way then the pole times set 6 months ago were set under the same conditions as I set my Q time 6 months ago and the ones today also all under the same conditions today. Also, if I'm a DR D driver a year ago, DR C 6 months ago and DR B today then, while the system has it's flaws, compared to my previous standings I have improved. On that basis I also don't judge it by wins or place on the grid because 10th on the grid of a DR B race today should mean I have improved relative to my 10th on the grid of DR D race a year ago. Hence all of the progress used to judge improvement is relative to my own previous standings.

Another problem, and perhaps contrary to the above paragraph, is that our nature is to seek wins, faster times and performance rewards. It can get to the point where you actually dread playing "a game" because it has become a pressure situation and when you log onto a site like this in search of like minded players you get disheartened when you see guys talking about 600 plus wins and being in the top ten in their region (no insult). I know that I have very little spare time and I know that GT is something that I use to wind down after everything else in life has finished at the end of the day - work, family, sports, chill time all come before a little play at the end of the day. When I race I know that I have not tested every car, I have not qualified to the end of my wits and I know that I most likely won't win. The point however is that I enjoy the escape. Yes, I like to perform well, yes, it is a bonus when I finish well and yes when I crash it is very annoying but the important thing is that I managed to grab those few minutes of escape.

 

[05XR8]

I remember reading about ToD change during pit stops. That would most likely have to be offline. Can't see one person pitting in Sport Mode, exiting pit lane and it's night and the other 19 cars still racing in day time.

 

[Invisigoth]

It can get to the point where you actually dread playing "a game" because it has become a pressure situation and when you log onto a site like this in search of like minded players you get disheartened when you see guys talking about 600 plus wins and being in the top ten in their region (no insult).

Yeh, I can relate. I'm pretty much a career DR/D player. I've had adventures in DR/C, but always seem to feel relived when I drop back down to DR/D . More recently I've had a lot of poorly matched races in terms of driver rating, so I've been knocked down all the way to DR 1. Once there you have hit rock bottom, the pressure is off because you have nothing to loose except SR.

 

[6BK]

Yeh, I can relate. I'm pretty much a career DR/D player. I've had adventures in DR/C, but always seem to feel relived when I drop back down to DR/D . More recently I've had a lot of poorly matched races in terms of driver rating, so I've been knocked down all the way to DR 1. Once there you have hit rock bottom, the pressure is off because you have nothing to loose except SR.

I know what you mean about the odd sense of relief in being back in the zone where you can compete. St Croix wrecked my DR this week but ironically the lower DR is now putting me in top 3 to 4 slots on the grid rather than the bottom 3 to 4 where I've been living the rest of the week. It is obvious from this how some folk could farm wins. Another 3 or 4K drop in my DR would put me on pole (*insert nasty thoughts here - would I really go out of my way to improve that 5 wins in 634 races streak I've been on?).

By the way, I mean this in the best possible sense although some could read it as condescending, but when I typed the reply above commenting on how we arrive here and see players in the top 1% with super times etc and it could be demoralising, I think somewhere in my mind I was conscious of your own situation. I'm well aware of your DR (at least 1 above zero ) and from the day I arrived I've admired how involved you are in the discussions here, how you entertain us and engage, how much you seem to enjoy the game and how you take it for what it is regardless of your DR or you Q times relative to other members. That should be reassurance for the original poster (@Lateralus5813) that you don't need to be a pro to enjoy GT online or to earn a voice on the forum.

 

[watto79]

I know what you mean about the odd sense of relief in being back in the zone where you can compete. St Croix wrecked my DR this week but ironically the lower DR is now putting me in top 3 to 4 slots on the grid rather than the bottom 3 to 4 where I've been living the rest of the week. It is obvious from this how some folk could farm wins. Another 3 or 4K drop in my DR would put me on pole (*insert nasty thoughts here - would I really go out of my way to improve that 5 wins in 634 races streak I've been on?).

By the way, I mean this in the best possible sense although some could read it as condescending, but when I typed the reply above commenting on how we arrive here and see players in the top 1% with super times etc and it could be demoralising, I think somewhere in my mind I was conscious of your own situation. I'm well aware of your DR (at least 1 above zero ) and from the day I arrived I've admired how involved you are in the discussions here, how you entertain us and engage, how much you seem to enjoy the game and how you take it for what it is regardless of your DR or you Q times relative to other members. That should be reassurance for the original poster (@Lateralus5813) that you don't need to be a pro to enjoy GT online or to earn a voice on the forum.

This is what I love about this thread. It's inclusive to drivers of all types and abilities and is just a fun hang out area to share racing stories and any other subject that crops up as an off topic discussion. I don't often get involved but it's always an entertaining read

 

[6BK]

This is what I love about this thread. It's inclusive to drivers of all types and abilities and is just a fun hang out area to share racing stories and any other subject that crops up as an off topic discussion. I don't often get involved but it's always an entertaining read

There's a line from Blazing Saddles ending in "...but we don't want the Irish" that would fit in perfect right now but because everyone these days is so much more bloody sensitive compared to 30 years ago the poor admins would have to work over time omitting everything in the sentence that made if funny.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I know what you mean about the odd sense of relief in being back in the zone where you can compete. St Croix wrecked my DR this week but ironically the lower DR is now putting me in top 3 to 4 slots on the grid rather than the bottom 3 to 4 where I've been living the rest of the week. It is obvious from this how some folk could farm wins. Another 3 or 4K drop in my DR would put me on pole (*insert nasty thoughts here - would I really go out of my way to improve that 5 wins in 634 races streak I've been on?).

By the way, I mean this in the best possible sense although some could read it as condescending, but when I typed the reply above commenting on how we arrive here and see players in the top 1% with super times etc and it could be demoralising, I think somewhere in my mind I was conscious of your own situation. I'm well aware of your DR (at least 1 above zero ) and from the day I arrived I've admired how involved you are in the discussions here, how you entertain us and engage, how much you seem to enjoy the game and how you take it for what it is regardless of your DR or you Q times relative to other members. That should be reassurance for the original poster (@Lateralus5813) that you don't need to be a pro to enjoy GT online or to earn a voice on the forum.

Yesterday I was DR C, and SR B... Today I am DR D, dropped 4500 points but SR A. Want to be SR S, as I use to be, but it's a bumpy ride up. (Fun though!)

Still, enjoying the game very much, probably more than I should.

 

[6BK]

Yesterday I was DR C, and SR B... Today I am DR D, dropped 4500 points but SR A. Want to be SR S, as I use to be, but it's a bumpy ride up. (Fun though!)

Still, enjoying the game very much, probably more than I should.

Perhaps you should try not having bumpy rides. From memory that's how you get to SR S.

SR S ain't all it's cracked up to be. I am up there now but was down at 50 a couple of weeks back and really couldn't see much difference. I was in an SR S race at Bathurst where a Jag deliberately punted a car off the track, and I mean full force up the tail at Forest, and then started doing donuts in the penalty zone as a celebration. I saved the race and really should upload the edit here, you lot would love it.

 

[Highlandor]

Sweden, actually. Some one ran a truck into a transformation station.

They probably had too many race C's @ Fudgy this week, got so used to sending it full speed into the pits they started doing this in real life too....

👍 💡 👍

 

[Redneckchef]

Maybe I will finally do some editing for a bit here too. Just had a hellish night where I bled DR like nothing else. Fuji turned into mad max with a couple of players determined to play wreckfest instead and wiping out whole swathes of the field. Second race was ok but got punt passed by suspect from first race late, then while catching them I blew it and did astro induced donuts down the front stretch. Dropped back to Race B as my matchmaking was killing me and for once was rewarded with a decent starting slot. All the benefits from this ended when I got punted heading onto the bridge, made a solid recovery and as I passed around a pack of cars one in front hit the guardrail and I end up plowing into it, spinning off, and finally resetting 10 seconds behind the field. After a good start to the week I think it is catching up to me and I am heading down to where I naturally reside DR wise.

And yeah, I hang about here as a great place to swap tips, war stories and funny clips. While everyone has their ups and downs we at least seem to share the goal of having a good race and some good stories. I think for a lot of us this is the only place we really get to do that.

 

[Pigems]

Next week’s races are up now.

 

[crothos39]

Tsukuba is probably ae86

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Perhaps you should try not having bumpy rides. From memory that's how you get to SR S.

SR S ain't all it's cracked up to be. I am up there now but was down at 50 a couple of weeks back and really couldn't see much difference. I was in an SR S race at Bathurst where a Jag deliberately punted a car off the track, and I mean full force up the tail at Forest, and then started doing donuts in the penalty zone as a celebration. I saved the race and really should upload the edit here, you lot would love it.

Nothing would please me more. But alash, in SR B there is always someone who see you coming to overtake and then just turn right into you, then runs off so you get a 5 second penalty. I had two do it on lap 1, on the bridge and in the drain pipe, so I got penalty for running another car of track and for not obeying track limits all in one blow. (13 seconds, as to the discussion on dq before. 13 seconds that was absolutely not my doing and with no retaliation.)
In the end I resorted to pull aside at start and race from the ba k, only passing when someone ran off or was occupied with another player. Still, managed to get to p7 like that.
I will get up to a higher SR class, although A might be safer than S.

Edit: 5 laps for race B, that sounds great.

 

[The_Tullster]

I think my DR has settled at its natural level, 10-15K low DR/B with the occasional drop to C. Current bang in the middle of that range and gaining/losing a couple hundred per race.

It's taken me all week to find my feet at St Croix but finally settled on GR Supra Racing Concept '18 as the car. Early in the week I set myself a target Q time in an R8 at 2:13.147 and it's taken me 'til today to find a car that I can equal that and that I actually enjoy driving. I was getting real close in the Jag and the Mustang, but the Supra got me down to 2:12.5xx . Just had a nice race (CRB) with some side by side action. Only gained one position but it was good, consistent on the edge racing.
That time is putting me on the grid in the top half of the field for the first time in since mid last week, so slightly more chance of plus DR and MUCH easier to maintain SR-S.

Next week will be Gr.2 at DTS for me, I only have four Gr.2 cars, two GT-R, NSX and RC-F so it's the Lexus for me. If the A race is FF cars again I'm not likely to do more than a couple of races, though it make take my fancy a little more if the supplied cars are FR. I've not run 4WD cars much so I'll have to see how consistent I can TT if they're the offering.

Race B is super fun but SR Killer.

Down to B B

I've not found that to be the case. Perhaps I've been super lucky, but of the four races I've had there this week I've been neither victim of, nor witness to any serious shenanigans. The red dots on the results table seem mostly to be victims of drivers outbraking themselves at the expense of drivers around them at T3 and the bridge entry.