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I have to recommend that you DO NOT watch Lester's lap replay at race A. It's a soul-crushing visual, that will just leave you feeling inadequate. :grumpy:
The Honda Beat really sucks. I don't remember it being so difficult, when we had the same race combo in February. I can't finish 2 laps in a row with getting a penalty and having to restart.
Nobody on my friends list has even recorded a lap yet, so perhaps you guys already know this.
Might be a good race for the alt account if you just wanna bend some metal. :lol:
 
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Progress has been made :gtpflag:
 
Uhhh we've had power-boosted Beats at Yamagiwa before but it was in the other direction. Really don't understand the logic behind repetition like this. So many possible combinations but their options are limited apparently. I and others are broken records about this and Kaz was even told about it yet it continues to happen, so whatever. RIP Saint-Croix and 70% of the car list.
 
This game rattles me, I have been having connection problems with it all morning so I don't think I'll be racing. I finally get a good qualy lap in, and somehow the game disconnects from the server doesn't record it. I try and quit back to the main menu and it gets bugged, so I have to close application and restart GTS

proof
current time recorded time is a 1:20.619
 
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Seriously another boring fuel saving Gr3 race :/ people who Don't pit are blocking like idiot while shifting at 4000rpm saving tires so it make race boring and bad for SR

I don't know how you can say it'as boring. If a person can lap almost as fast without stops as they can with stops, then where's the boredom? What are you gaining by trying to kill the car?

If you aren't saving the car, then a pass should be easy, right? If the pass isn't easy, then you're wasting the car for nothing.

This is racing 101 - There isn't a road racing series in the world where the racers aren't actively managing the tires and fuel to maximize their results. Even pit stop races.

Cole Trickle thought it was best to beat the car too :)

I did a comparison, went flat out with the Lexus this time and can indeed got 1.5 sec faster per lap, 1:22.5 laps with clear road vs 1:24.0 laps while fuel saving with clear road. The pit stop took about 17 seconds with a tire change. So theoretically 15 x 1.5 = 22.5 vs 17 seconds, pit stop is faster.

I'm running 1:22's in the Ferrari while conserving.

0 brake balance. Use your brakes more than engine braking. Up-shift quickly on corner exit (even before hitting the go pedal) so the rears don't spin up on exit. The nature of the engine in that car makes it fantastic at this track.
 
Well, I made it to #9 somehow. If I leave it there, it'll be somewhere around 50-60 by the end of the week. :lol:
It took a ton of crashes to get there. TCS 1 BB -3.
I did not enjoy it.
I'm gonna try the race, though on my alt account, from the back. Should be able to pass most of the other cars, by just waiting for them to go off the track. 👍
 
What's going on with race A today? That Honda is really hard to drive in qually, thankfully it's a bit easier in the race, I'm 4.8 secs off the fastest time in EMEA... and I'm 60th...:lol:
Looks like the top times are faster than they were in February, but I'm 4 seconds slower than I was then though!

Two races so far, still started 3rd and second, even with my rubbish quali time. Guy on pole in the first race was 3 seconds ahead of the rest of us by the top of the first hill......
 
Frankly, fuel saving and tire conservation coupled with tracks that are hard to pass on is what's killing F1. All time low viewing because it's simply boring. At least to watch.

Downforce is what's killing F1.

MotoGP goes to many of those same tracks. Tire conservation is paramount, and they don't get to stop. Whichever compound they choose has to last the race and the rider/bike combination can often dictate tire choice. They pass all over the the place because they aren't hampered by being in the draft.


I haven't seen a Race C yet where some manner of conservation was disadvantageous. Even when they give you plenty of fuel, you still want to avoid messing up your tires.


I see it as prey mentality versus predator mentality. Prey wins by running away as fast as possible. Predators win by wearing down their prey. Heck, the whole reason the human animal succeeded was because it could run down prey. We can jog and sweat, which allows us to keep chasing while the prey has to stop and pant. Even wolves use relay teams to run down prey.

Race C is survival of the fittest. If anyone finds it "boring" then it should be easy wins, right?

Don't engage in battles. It doesn't benefit you. Blocking doesn't benefit you. You WANT to let people get in front of you. You want to have someone else's car push through the wind so you save fuel for the later laps. You WANT others to engage in on track battle so they use up fuel and tires.

Someone's catching you? Run your race
Someone's pulling away? Run your race

Think big picture. Think of the entire race. Divide it into thirds. You should have +/- 66% fuel after 5 laps and +/- 33% after 10 laps. Gauge your pace based on that.
 
I have to recommend that you DO NOT watch Lester's lap replay at race A. It's a soul-crushing visual, that will just leave you feeling inadequate. :grumpy:
The Honda Beat really sucks. I don't remember it being so difficult, when we had the same race combo in February. I can't finish 2 laps in a row with getting a penalty and having to restart.
Nobody on my friends list has even recorded a lap yet, so perhaps you guys already know this.
Might be a good race for the alt account if you just wanna bend some metal. :lol:

This week's race A is brought to you by the words "Lift-Off Oversteer" and "Rev-Limiter". At least it's predictably wayward. Be gentle with it.

I've a 2:09.9 on the board, with an opt at 2:09.4 which I will be chasing rather than racing. Apparently you can't see my times because we're in a different region. :(
 
Downforce is what's killing F1.

MotoGP goes to many of those same tracks. Tire conservation is paramount, and they don't get to stop. Whichever compound they choose has to last the race and the rider/bike combination can often dictate tire choice. They pass all over the the place because they aren't hampered by being in the draft.


I haven't seen a Race C yet where some manner of conservation was disadvantageous. Even when they give you plenty of fuel, you still want to avoid messing up your tires.


I see it as prey mentality versus predator mentality. Prey wins by running away as fast as possible. Predators win by wearing down their prey. Heck, the whole reason the human animal succeeded was because it could run down prey. We can jog and sweat, which allows us to keep chasing while the prey has to stop and pant. Even wolves use relay teams to run down prey.

Race C is survival of the fittest. If anyone finds it "boring" then it should be easy wins, right?

Don't engage in battles. It doesn't benefit you. Blocking doesn't benefit you. You WANT to let people get in front of you. You want to have someone else's car push through the wind so you save fuel for the later laps. You WANT others to engage in on track battle so they use up fuel and tires.

Someone's catching you? Run your race
Someone's pulling away? Run your race

Think big picture. Think of the entire race. Divide it into thirds. You should have +/- 66% fuel after 5 laps and +/- 33% after 10 laps. Gauge your pace based on that.
It's the difference between strategy and tactics. If you like strategy games you probably like race C. If you like tactical games you are probably in race B.
 
Bathurst is a Mégane Fest 👎

Maybe try Mustang or Mcclaren.
I had horrid insomnia last night and was up in middle of night so I ran some qual. After ten or twelve laps sub 13.5 in Mustang felt like a nice clean lap. I see Lester did an 11.9 so, I’m happy. There was a fella above me with a 12.6 in the Mustang. The car will do it, and is quite stable. Nice wide car very planted, and powerful. Nice smooth drive.
As a bonus, wider car is easier to block with and handles contact like a champ! LMAO

@Voodoovaj,
Re your above postings, GD RII! Good advice many people would be better for heeding.
 
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I have to recommend that you DO NOT watch Lester's lap replay at race A. It's a soul-crushing visual, that will just leave you feeling inadequate. :grumpy:
The Honda Beat really sucks. I don't remember it being so difficult, when we had the same race combo in February. I can't finish 2 laps in a row with getting a penalty and having to restart.
Nobody on my friends list has even recorded a lap yet, so perhaps you guys already know this.
Might be a good race for the alt account if you just wanna bend some metal. :lol:

I remember this combo being very Funstrating last time. Sounds likes it is again this time. :)

Cole Trickle thought it was best to beat the car too. :)

Funny you bring him up, I just made this on Saturday. :)
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I remember this combo being very Funstrating last time. Sounds likes it is again this time. :)
The chicane at the bottom of the hill is a 🤬 show. The initial right-to-left transition pisses the car off so much. I just can't remember how I did it last time. I suppose slowing down a lot more could end being faster. :boggled: Trying to go fast through there, is a fools errand.
 
This week's race A is brought to you by the words "Lift-Off Oversteer" and "Rev-Limiter". At least it's predictably wayward. Be gentle with it.

I've a 2:09.9 on the board, with an opt at 2:09.4 which I will be chasing rather than racing. Apparently you can't see my times because we're in a different region. :(

Got the little buzzbox down on a 2:09.5. Pretty sure I can get a 2:08.x out of it at which point I'll call it quits - I reckon most people will be able to get down to around 2:09. T1 is massively important and the final corner is a test of patience but getting the time is just a question of keeping it vaguely under control on the brakes and being delicate with inputs.

The chicane at the bottom of the hill is a 🤬 show. The initial right-to-left transition pisses the car off so much. I just can't remember how I did it last time. I suppose slowing down a lot more could end being faster. :boggled: Trying to go fast through there, is a fools errand.

Brake in a straight line, relatively early. You can be back on the throttle for the right-hander and carry that speed all the way up the hill.
 
The chicane at the bottom of the hill is a 🤬 show. The initial right-to-left transition pisses the car off so much. I just can't remember how I did it last time. I suppose slowing down a lot more could end being faster. :boggled: Trying to go fast through there, is a fools errand.

Yup, that’s the key to the track right there. I remember getting VERY mad at the chicane last time. :lol:
 
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