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Just got back from the store. I heard a classic old school song in the car. Anyone else remember this jam, from the days of synthesizers and record scratching?


*Fun fact: According to Chris Farley, Herbie Hancock was also an original framer of the US Constitution. 👍
 
Just got back from the store. I heard a classic old school song in the car. Anyone else remember this jam, from the days of synthesizers and record scratching?


*Fun fact: According to Chris Farley, Herbie Hancock was also an original framer of the US Constitution. 👍


Absolute classic. For some reason I always confuse it with this one and I don't think I'm the only person who does.

 
Absolute classic. For some reason I always confuse it with this one and I don't think I'm the only person who does.


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Yeah, that same dude did the theme for "Fletch".
 
Sorry if it has been brought up before but... KP cannot fund my profile.. it shows “profile not found”. ??
 
Sorry for off topic..
I'm really surprised to read that so many people use TC at all. I turned it off for good when I beat the amateur races in campaign mode and never looked back. Am I doing it wrong?

Is it really faster to use tc? I thought it would make you lose grip in corners where you go flat out at grip limit as well as on slow corner exit.

Let me know if and when you deploy TC please
I think it is.mostly a personal thing. I run varying TCS on different cars as I have trouble smoothing out my throttle inputs enough on my DS4. If I remember correctly it is usually faster over the long run if you don't use it but it is prone to more risk. It is definitely the best trick to starting a grid start. If you don't need it then great. I do as I have been playing close to a year now but can't be bothered really hunkering down and focusing on improving those tiny things as much. Just enjoying the racing and doing the best with my style.👍
 
Thank you. I really should have found that out before the race. :boggled:
You're not alone. The week Spa was first used in dailies, many, many drivers reported the same issue. Some still hadn't found it after several races there.

Sorry for off topic..
I'm really surprised to read that so many people use TC at all. I turned it off for good when I beat the amateur races in campaign mode and never looked back. Am I doing it wrong?

Is it really faster to use tc? I thought it would make you lose grip in corners where you go flat out at grip limit as well as on slow corner exit.

Let me know if and when you deploy TC please
If you just mash the throttle and rely on TC to prevent spin, it's quite a bit slower.
If you finesse the throttle the same way you would with TC off and pay attention to the tyre noise and throttle indicator on the HUD, a small amount of TCS can save you from mnor misjudgements in input and if done well it may save you time. You would use it for those vehicles that have really touchy traction.

Edit: What @Redneckchef said about grid starts. Start the race with it on to save on wheel spin off the start line, then turn it off first chance you get.
 
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The other players, in my races, are fast(er) as well. I mainly use cars that are not the META and my qualy times are usually just one initial lap. Which puts me either mid-pack or down the end of the grid.

Next week Race C should be good. I'll use all three 2016 GT500 cars and just have fun.

That could all descibe me. I run the Mustang, I have so far seen two other Mustangs, I am usually not as fast as my qualifying lap, and start mid pack.
I qualified in 1:25:5, I usually run 1:26 or 27 in race.
 
Lots of lifting helps in the renault with cornering. Don't accelerate until you're sure you don't have to lift again. The corkscrew is blind you're turning right, but not too far right before you can see the apex. Of course using all of the track helps a lot of well. If the nose is washing wide you're going too fast, brake earlier.

I'm going into the corner slower than the ghost, then understeering wide of the apex, where I'm slower, and then accelerating out of the corner more slowly. Other than that, I'm golden. I can do a decent first sector (a few tenths off). S2, I'm losing massively (0.8s).
 
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Sorry for off topic..
I'm really surprised to read that so many people use TC at all. I turned it off for good when I beat the amateur races in campaign mode and never looked back. Am I doing it wrong?

Is it really faster to use tc? I thought it would make you lose grip in corners where you go flat out at grip limit as well as on slow corner exit.

Let me know if and when you deploy TC please

I think it comes down to personal preference and the car being used. Some of the hard core elitists believe it should be banned all together... just because *they* can manage without it. Some of the "I don't use TCS" group still use it for example the kart. From a personal standpoint, in general, I'm a danger to myself and others if I don't use it :lol:. Some cars I have it set to the default. Others I reduce it to help get some slip with the back end to rotate with the throttle. Some of the Gr4 AWDs like the WRX I have it turned off because I find them stable enough for me to handle without it and they turn in so much better with it off. I guess it comes down to a question of speed vs safety. If having it turned off results in you continuously spinning out during a race and potentially taking out other racers, then it's probably best to use it ;).
 
et me know if and when you deploy TC please

I use it on gr3 most gr4 all modern gr 1 group c, definitely on n4-500 and up. Some of the mr racecars I don’t use it.
I don’t use it on older cars that didn’t have it kart.
It’s not a question of slower vs faster. I’m usually faster with it, because I can push past the max throttle that can be applied without going totally out of control. I can play with how early and how much throttle I can apply coming out of corners without getting all out of shape.
TCS can teach a person far faster at default 3 in racing cars about what you need to do. No one really cares, but pretty much every race I am in there’s crashes because people did not have it on.
I’m always up in the top 1.5 percent or so on gr3 and 4 for times, and I am at default settings 95 percent of time. I don’t adjust bb on racecars because for me it unevens the tire wear, and also makes me slower and the cars feel worse under bop no tuning, but that’s just me.
I think with modern gt cars, they have very advanced tech, and maybe it’s not let’s say as PURE DRIVING as the kart or any vintage n100 or something.
Speaking of which @Pigems was puuuuure on that 83 GTI time, just gotta throw it in there MASTERFUL RUN.
I have adapted my driving to the system and find it advantageous in many ways.
Then again on controller I’ve no idea what it causes because I can’t complete a lap on controller in any car in under twenty minutes.
I race people all the time who are faster than I am though with it so...
The important fact to me is TCS is not ‘auto make you slower mode’. It does not activate unless you do certain things and it does not just hold back engine power, and it doesn’t even work the same on all cars...
Like for people who have problems spinning out, most of the time it is the steering input, sure, too much throttle too soon, but also when holding the same steering angle.
You turn into the corner, the steering input needs to be full at apex, and the opening up coming out. Imo most people spin because they are a touch late on steering then hold the car by holding too much steering angle and goosing throttle.
That’s just my take.
With tcs, if you do this power will be cut, so, it shows you the mistake without a crash.
Improper steering causes TCS to activate and slow the cars drive out of the corner a lot, but if you steer better you can put power down.
Think about it exiting slow corners do you want to pussyfoot and tiptoe or aggressively push out?
On grid start is it faster to use tcs ?
With TCS on like out of Suzuka hairpin for example, you can push how aggressively you get on gas on exit, or on the chicane also,
Too soon and you can see it.
Sorry for the rant, just got back from delivering my kid, missed a race I was interested in.
I know nothing about controller use, but I know that I am able to get strong times with tcs on.
Another benefit is let’s say there’s contact with another car, or you go off and get dirty tires.
Again TCS saves the day.
I know people must get sick of me harping on this, but for gr3 and 4 races I wish more people used it.
I dunno, you are prolly some alien like the fella above running 11.8 on the mountain, but I think what I think.
Sorry for the rant guys.
 
Depending on class of car, tyres and power to weight ratio, TCS1, maybe TCS2, yes. TCS3, not unless you feather throttle to match TCS.

Yeah, the point is take race A this week. First race I did I spun a bit too much off the line with tcs off...FWD Next race TCS 1 then turned it off.
Most grid starts imo TCS on is just faster than off is all I am saying.
I always wonder about rev limiter bouncing on standing start, seems kinda random at times, but sometimes you just blast away.
Usually I just hold it floored, where n a real drag car, you would hold a specific rpm then sidestep the clutch and floor...
 
I run TCS1 on everything Gr.2 and slower, I still don't have enough finesse on the DS4 to run with it fully off (with the possible exceptions of WRX / Lancer and other AWD cars, which I rarely drive). It's amazing how often I gain a couple of places on grid starts because the car(s) in front of me have TCS off (wheelspin) or set too high (bog down). I usually lose those places again in the T1 punt fest, but if you happen to hit a clean race on a grid start, TCS1 is well worth it for most classes.
 
Sorry for off topic..
I'm really surprised to read that so many people use TC at all. I turned it off for good when I beat the amateur races in campaign mode and never looked back. Am I doing it wrong?

Is it really faster to use tc? I thought it would make you lose grip in corners where you go flat out at grip limit as well as on slow corner exit.

Let me know if and when you deploy TC please
I never use TCS. Well, once in a while ill use it on a grid start. I think the main reason I don't use it is because I do this for fun (I like driving on the edge), and I like a challenge. Does it bite me sometimes...absolutely! Part of the fun in racing, for me, is controling slides. I can use the throttle to change my line, mid corner, in many cars, and a little throttle induced oversteer can give me a great drive off a corner where, if tcs was on, I would either have to lift, or run wide.
There are a lot of choices I make in this game. Most come down to, what is the most fun? I like rwd cars, with plenty of HP. Yes, if I go wide and catch the grass I may spin, and I need to control the throttle, or I'll spin. Other cars hitting me can also make me loose control. FWD is safe. TCS is safe. **** safe! Give me some risk, it's worth the reward.
It does get interesting with the new dirty tire model.:banghead:
 
it`s good in a way that Kudosprime is down-i got used to checking dr/sr after each race to see how i was going but today i had 3 great races without having to adapt my racing with scores(and consequences) in mind and took 1.5 secs off my quali ,had 2 consecutive clean races and seemed so much smoother-must be similiar to having an alt account to just race for fun for a change.........
 
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