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chuyler1
I have yet to drive the Mustang, but it appears to do well everywhere except Lesmo, or perhaps that’s just the drivers I am encountering.
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I am pulling away from the GT-R's in both Lesmo curves, enough to keep ahead until Askari. And then I usually pull a new gap during that, enough to keep ahead through Parabolica.
 
Two races last night.
Battling top 6 in each one.
Punted to last in lesmos and first chicane.

Lonely races after that so switched off the TC and got some practice in.
Managed to catch and pass a handful of cars in each one.

With TC off I've been managing to get on the throttle and steer so hopefully I'll start finding some more pace.

chuyler1
I have yet to drive the Mustang, but it appears to do well everywhere except Lesmo, or perhaps that’s just the drivers I am encountering.
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I find getting on throttle through them helps.
I've only been punted off there once by a GT-R and that's when I was defending for position in a gang of 4 cars.
 
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Racerx_34
Two races last night.
Battling top 6 in each one.
Punted to last in lesmos and first chicane.

Lonely race after that so switched off the TC and got some practice in.
Managed to catch and pass a handful of cars in each one.

With TC off I've been managing to get on the throttle and steer so hopefully I'll start finding some more pace.



I find getting on throttle through them helps.
I've only been punted off there once by a GT-R and that's when I was defending for position in a gang of 4 cars.
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I find the Mustang very easy to control on the throttle, just feathering it to change direction in the curve, easy to use different lines.
 
So frustrating, why do people think they can win on the first corner of a 10 lap race.

Also, what's the crack with driver rating? As I left Dr C it was nice n clean, went to DR B and its mental again... or is it simply a monza first corner thing?
 
LordNem
So frustrating, why do people think they can win on the first corner of a 10 lap race.

Also, what's the crack with driver rating? As I left Dr C it was nice n clean, went to DR B and its mental again... or is it simply a monza first corner thing?
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I had the same thing.
I think it's because we were further up the pack in C.

Now I'm in B I'm starting near the pack and it's carnage every time for the first 2 laps.
Top 4 or 5 break clean and it's a free for all behind that.
 
Yeah, ummmm, so Monza was cleaner than the FIA. I got to mid SR A after 3 races at race C, decided a patient race on the FIA would help build SR while giving me space on a wide track like Barcelona. Nope. Just meant I get pushed wide 6 ways from Sunday. Including out of the last turn when I passed a sliding car for p7, and they simply floor it and push me completely wide off track through the last turn to drop me to p10. And I lose 16 SR after all is said and done. :banghead:🤬:banghead:🤬:banghead:🤬

Why was I such an idiot last night? Oh well. Few more rounds of Monza to try and avoid wreckfest drivers. Or same at Fuji tomorrow. With that turn 1 and the chicanes at the end it'll be nearly the same.:crazy:

Just for a silly update, I was mid SR A before trying to have a slow and clean FIA for extra SR. That failure put me back at B. I am on the cusp of SR A again, but still mired in SR B. My only hope is that not having a Q time for Fuji I will be able to actually milk it back where I need to be tomorrow night. And for future reference, I hit option to pause it and avoid the turn 1 disaster several races tonight, and in 2 I still had a 1 sec penalty for hitting another car when I unpaused to resume control after the chicane. Hard knocks once you drop yourself to the dark lower SR lobbies.
 
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Redneckchef
Yeah, ummmm, so Monza was cleaner than the FIA. I got to mid SR A after 3 races at race C, decided a patient race on the FIA would help build SR while giving me space on a wide track like Barcelona. Nope. Just meant I get pushed wide 6 ways from Sunday. Including out of the last turn when I passed a sliding car for p7, and they simply floor it and push me completely wide off track through the last turn to drop me to p10. And I lose 16 SR after all is said and done. :banghead:🤬:banghead:🤬:banghead:🤬

Why was I such an idiot last night? Oh well. Few more rounds of Monza to try and avoid wreckfest drivers. Or same at Fuji tomorrow. With that turn 1 and the chicanes at the end it'll be nearly the same.:crazy:
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Those last few corners are going to be a nightmare, aren't they.
Can't wait for the penalty for getting rear ended in the first corner.

It's almost better to have no pace and pick up places when others make mistakes.
 
Monza was tough this week. Started on the cusp of DR A and by mid-week had a reset due to SR D thanks to punters (Went from SR B to D in one race I believe, it was bad). Worked my way back up to DR B last night and noticed the same as others here, while I was down at DR C the races were actually a bit cleaner overall, but could have just been situational.

I was running from the back (no qualy) most of the week to avoid T1 madness, but finally decided to see what it would be like to start up front. It actually wasn't too bad for the most part, must have gotten lucky. Ran a 1:48.4 for qualifying so in my B lobbies I was P3-6 to start. Went pretty well actually, took a win in my '15 SRT Viper which was cool. The Viper is a very nice car to drive around that track, feels very planted. Refuse to drive that GT-R so was mostly running my Aston, F-Type, Mustang, Viper, and AMG all week.
 
Two races at Tokyo, two wins from pole . . . first race wasnt good though, I made a mistake on the entry to the chute before the pits on lap one, the guy behind me was way quicker so I stayedf wide and gave him the inside but he was slow enough through the hairpin for me to get half of my car alongside him before he started trying to squeeze me into the wall through the tunnel forcing me to lift, approaching the chicane I wanted to just drive into the back of him, but I let him off. Same scenario every lap until the final lap (weaving, blocking etc. especialy in the tunnel), lost patience with him on the final lap and just smashed him into the chicane for a 7pt SR down. After the race he claimed I was pure evil, I told him anyone can drive like an idiot and left.
The Red Mist was still in my eyes for the second race, but their was an opponent going by the name of
davicruccu(Italian flag) who reminded me that two cars (N200 Mzda TC's anyway) can race side by side, flatout through the tunnel, along with getting through the right hander at the to of the hill with zero contact, bravo that man, even by my none-prodigious levels of stamina the best six minutes of the week.
If you see him, be nice to him :cheers:
 
QC YALUM
I'm wondering I have raced you a couples times and whit me at least you was fairplay driving and pretty good at it . But me I have never dropped down further than Sr A I'm always at 99 Sr I don't even race in Sr A lobby I Let everyone go to be shure to have a clean race and get back to 99sr as soon as I can because in lower Sr lobby some of them don't give a **** and some of them just don't know how to drive a car ? So I'm wondering how a good driver like you can enjoy racing in those chaotic lower Sr session ?
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It's good practice to survive the worst range 80-89 SR :lol:. There matchmaking is completely broken and I get matched with D/S to C/S (while A/S myself). It's unreal how much I get hit while driving from the back there. I finally did it though, broke through to max SR.S from the back in race B. It took racing in the evening, which is indeed cleaner currently than during the day.

After a week of going up and down

SR.E Got some real suicide bombers that simply don't care about anything, but also some unfortunates wanting to get out. It's easy to get out with the 2.5x SR boost, and quite telling when there are people that start with E and end with a red E. It takes talent to stay at SR.E

SR.D/SR.C Pretty good race craft over all, 20% dirty drivers. Most do know how to share the road, but some also stick their elbows out as soon as you come close. Surprisingly I never had any issues at the start there, everyone follows nicely until past the starting line. I had some awesome close clean contact free battles in SR.C, exciting racing for top position.

SR.B This is a big range which gets progressively worse as your SR climbs. Every race starts with a bomb from the back, often hit twice from behind before even reaching the start line. It's total chaos until Flug platz, cars everywhere except on the road. But also easy to jump to the front if you can read all the chaotic movements of the cars around you. However thanks to -10 SR per SR Down and max +5 per clean race at the Nord, SR.B is almost an impassible barrier. SR.B also had the least qualifiers where I often started as high as 6th. Yet also here, there are some awesome races to be had in the second half.

SR.A It actually got worse every time SR.A entered the room. High SR.B / low SR.A rooms are terrible. Still easy to get a victory from the back, but also easy to end up with a penalty from some true dirty stuff. Until now it was 80% incompetence and badly executed (easy to avoid) dive bombs, with SR.A added it starts to become more tactical dirty. Higher SR.A is a lot better, this is where those end up that want to get back to SR.S. I'm guessing the low SR.As got out of SR.B by mistake and want to go back :lol:

SR.S 80-89, Horror show. These are people that are so bad they get to SR.S either by enjoying pole to flag victories due to speed without race craft. Or normally trundle behind gaining SR simply by not getting close enough to race. Now imagine starting behind a whole pack of them. The can't share the road at all, don't know where to brake and think every pass attempt (by me) is dirty and should be met with a side swipe or punt. However survive until Flug platz and then after the sharp right down the hill they've all wiped themselves out. The faster "can race but not share the road" crowd is left. Tricky to overtake as they will turn in on you 100% guaranteed.

SR.S 90-99, Finally back, total difference in pace. 80-89 slowest pace, SR.A and lower, much faster than 80-89 SR, but still far slower than max SR.S. max SR.S also has its bad drivers. Dive bombs, people losing control, but with the much faster pace, less overtakes, less chances to get hit. It was also already past childrens bed time when I got there so I had the pleasure of some clean racing there, yet no shot at a podium by far.

Off to see how max SR does on Sunday morning!

Edit: max SR.S not that fast in the morning. Mostly A/S with couple A+/S a night, currently a bad mix of all DR as usual. Less race craft here than in lower SR. It's faster, the pole to flag people are here (when they drop to lower SR) but sharing the road is a tough ask which SR.C and SR.B can deliver. I already got one SR Down, one more and it's back to the worst SR.S room :nervous:
 
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Went out in the AMG GT on RH. The thing wouldn't stop. Even braking early.
The thing wouldn't turn. Even when slowing for the turns. Trying to avoid other players, the thing would wag the tail and be out of control. It was like the tyres were marbles, while I was driving on marbles, on a marble laid circuit.

Lots of cars going off. Something was going haywire.
 
I’m pretty much SR.S due to safe driving, not pace, but it’s clear your assessment is correct and with daily races I am surrounded by hot lappers. With FIA, it ends up being a better group of drivers and I have had some really great races this season. I am an A/S driver by surviving the carnage and running safe modest laps.

SR should not move for solo laps, I think that would solve everything. You should have to farm it by starting at the back, not the front. If you are in the lead, or more than 2s away from any driver, there is nothing to reward you for with respect to safety besides staying on the track.
 
Finally had one of those races you've all been taking about. Absolutely nailed on seemingly ugly every lap, from as far back as a second, it dont matter, guys lunging at anything resembling a gap. Just horrible, what a fiasco.
 
So, today I went ahead and tried the Mustang at Monza, as some of you had recommended as a suitable alternative to the GTR. I'm at SR-S (max) and DR-B (lower end, climbing through). The first race was awfull, started on pole and got divebombed by some guy 3 rows back, don't think he ever considered making the corner. This made me be last place as the game reset my car before the chicane and, at that time, behind everyone. It even gave me a 2s penalty, that's what made my day. From then on I just kind of focused on learning the handling of the car and how it behaved (specially entering the Lesmos) and was lucky to have some interesting battles on the lower end of the grid. Finished 10th or something near that.

Decided to try again and this time tried defending my line into T1 (which is something I rarely do, because usually the other guy gets confused, doesn't know what to do and somehow gets us both on the nearest wall), got lucky, no one tried anything funny. It was a start to flag win, nothing happened, it could've been an interesting race as the guy who started P2 (with a McLaren F1, curious to try that one as well) passed me on the exit of the 2nd chicane in a clean fashion, but he binned it on the exit of Lesmo 1 and just quit the race. I ended up just managing a healthy gap to P2 all race.

By now I was relatively comfortable with the car, it felt better than the GTR, I prefer a liitle oversteer rather than a little understeer, so the on the limit entry into most corners felt better, safer maybe.

The 3rd and 4th races were amazing. The 3rd race I swapped positions for the whole 10 laps with a Spanish fella in his GTR. After a lap or two I figured this guy actually knew what he was doing when side by side racing and so, I started racing for real, and with this I mean adopting defensive lines and not giving too much space in corners, and he must've felt the same way because he started defending too. The pit strategy gave me an edge, we both started on mediums, I pitted on lap 4 and he pitted on lap 5, and I came out ahead into the 1st chicane. After that I lead the whole way defending all the time (really amazing racing) until I made a fatal mistake, braking a thousand of a second late into the parabolica, he gained on me, passed me early in the straight and got the defensive line into T1. I never had a shot at overtaking and we ended the race a few tenths apart. Felt really good, it was the sweetest P2 of my life, actually gave me some faith in the people running in these races. Shame I didn't record any of it.

The 4th race was very good as well, but closer to what you see in F1 these days, me and my South African competitor (in his GTR obviously) were most of the time 1s or 1s apart with him in front, and some 10s away from P3. Again we both had mediums on start, I pitted on lap 4, he pitted later on lap 6 and that gave me the lead, again we went from there to the end 1s to 1,5s apart with me coming out on top this time. He actually slowed down on the last lap, we ended with 3 or 4s dif., he probably thought it wasn't worth it to go for broke and just made sure he didn't bin it in the final lap. Kudos to you Le South African Professeur.

Definitely enjoying this sport mode more than I thought I would!
 
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I stuck to Race A this week. Got a win (my 20th) this morning. Overall I had 9 podium finishes and one 4th place in 10 races.

Complete opposite of the week before, where I managed to mess up every race. :lol:

Feels like about 2 weeks since I had any -SR. Racing has been very clean around me. 👍
 
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I've been racing mostly A this week, though I have raced both other races. The Nurb was fun, but too many people that just block or bump you off when you try a clean pass. Monza is a mixed bag, totally dependant on the attitude of those around you. I've had some fun races at Tokyo this week. Some good races from the front, including a 2nd place from pole. Couldn't break the draft, and he stayed on me into the hairpin. I made an error and covered the inside into the tunnel. To be fair to myself, it was the smart move, not knowing how clean he would be. As it was, he was clean, we were side by side through the tunnel, but he had the draft (early) and had the inside into the right before the chicane. I didn't give up the spot easy, and we were also side by side through that right hander. Can't keep the speed that far from the apex, though, and he ran a good, tight line, so he was inching ahead into the chicane, so I backed off and let him go, and tried for the drive off the chicane. Got a run, and some draft, but lost by about 2 feet. Fun! Now that I blew my no Q, I end up mid pack with the 2:00.7 I put up. I found that I finish better if I pull over and let everyone go so I can run full speed through the first sector. I time it so I catch the pack at the hairpin, but can use my normal line and brake point going in. I've been coming out between 8th and 5th place, depending on the carnage. Cracks me up every time.:lol:
 
The problem with Monza is that there is always someone that dive bombs into T1 thinking you can go three abreast into T1. It’s bad enough with two, but with three if you’re the one on the very inside, you’re never going to have enough angle to make the turn because you have to do a 90 degree turn!

It’s madness.
 
Rexracer702
I've been racing mostly A this week, though I have raced both other races. The Nurb was fun, but too many people that just block or bump you off when you try a clean pass. Monza is a mixed bag, totally dependant on the attitude of those around you. I've had some fun races at Tokyo this week. Some good races from the front, including a 2nd place from pole. Couldn't break the draft, and he stayed on me into the hairpin. I made an error and covered the inside into the tunnel. To be fair to myself, it was the smart move, not knowing how clean he would be. As it was, he was clean, we were side by side through the tunnel, but he had the draft (early) and had the inside into the right before the chicane. I didn't give up the spot easy, and we were also side by side through that right hander. Can't keep the speed that far from the apex, though, and he ran a good, tight line, so he was inching ahead into the chicane, so I backed off and let him go, and tried for the drive off the chicane. Got a run, and some draft, but lost by about 2 feet. Fun! Now that I blew my no Q, I end up mid pack with the 2:00.7 I put up. I found that I finish better if I pull over and let everyone go so I can run full speed through the first sector. I time it so I catch the pack at the hairpin, but can use my normal line and brake point going in. I've been coming out between 8th and 5th place, depending on the carnage. Cracks me up every time.:lol:
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I can relate. Here's a race I did this morning. I started 12th, and didn't try to make any moves on the first lap.
Just hanging out, waiting for the people in front of me to do some stupid stuff. Sure enough, it happened.
Someone was a bit too aggressive and reckless at the chicane, which caused problems for 5 other people.
Unfortunately, BenRod was one of the innocent victims.. :grumpy:
 
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Ran a few laps at Central Outer in GR4 to check out cars for next week. I'll probably be driving the Alfa, and it will probably be the Meta. The 86 and the Porsche are also good, but I think the fastest laps will be in the Alfa. The Porsche has a bit more muscle, so could be good in the race. The 86 is also fast and strong. I want to try out some other cars. I did drive the Aston but it's too slow in the corners for times. There may be a lot of cars that work well in the race from in the pack, but if one of the 3 get a gap, I don't think anyone would catch them.
 
The 911 at the ring combo is very fun.

People are surprisingly behaving. The only idiot I encountered was a certain Youtuber who braked in the middle of the track to let someone he hit get back to the track. I subsequently hit him, spun, and ruined my race.

He didn't even apologize.
 
sems4arsenal
The 911 at the ring combo is very fun.

People are surprisingly behaving. The only idiot I encountered was a certain Youtuber who braked in the middle of the track to let someone he hit get back to the track. I subsequently hit him, spun, and ruined my race.

He didn't even apologize.
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The worst is at the start and the idiots who have never driven the track slamming on the brakes on the straight........creates pure chaos.
 
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