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As long as your getting your door position or better your DR will climb. It may not feel like it but your probably slowly getting quicker and consistent, the matchmaking does a good job of constantly giving you a challenge, the better you perform the better your matched opponents will be.
Hey first time posting so be gentle, however my understanding is that door number has little relevance. DR is gained or lost by position you finish, and take away DR from those behind or lose to those in front. If you finish in top half then more likely to get a DR gain?
 
Im sorry but youre wrong:) If it was that way, youll gain DR for 20th place:) If your number was 20...
I concur. From my limited reading of the topic, it seems to be a combination of your race result and the strength of the lobby.

A D ranked racer will do well in a race lobby full of Cs, if he doesn't finish last (and even then, might!).

Or, in a race with all other Ds, if they are mostly borderline Cs, then he will do well, too, if he is a REALLY low D.
 
Im sorry but youre wrong:) If it was that way, youll gain DR for 20th place:) If your number was 20...

I concur. From my limited reading of the topic, it seems to be a combination of your race result and the strength of the lobby.

A D ranked racer will do well in a race lobby full of Cs, if he doesn't finish last (and even then, might!).

Or, in a race with all other Ds, if they are mostly borderline Cs, then he will do well, too, if he is a REALLY low D.

From the Master himself...

There is a thread somewhere with all the details @Famine knows.

A quick explanation.

Door numbers mean little when you or other in the room are below DR.B (below 10,000 DR)
Door number is your DR reverse sorted alphabetically, 9 gets door number one, 8,000 comes after 900, etc.

The formula for DR is

You gain 80 points from each driver you finish ahead of, adjusted for the difference in your DR vs the other driver's DR

80 + (DR difference / 500) for each driver.

If your DR is higher you get less points (minimum 1)
If your DR is lower you get more points (maximum 160)

It's a zero sum exchange, so in reverse you give 80 points to each driver you finish behind.
(You can't end up below 1 yet still give out the points you owe, technically not zero sum, point inflation happens at the bottom)
Disconnecting counts as finishing last (you still give points to those who do stay connected until the end)

To get off the ground, you'll need to finish about half way up. It depends on the room though and who you beat. If you get matched with an A/S driver who crashes or disconnect, you'll get 160 points from that driver alone.

SR is a tricky subject especially now penalties have harsh SR deductions while still being assigned wrong far more often than not.
SR is the first factor in matchmaking and is the reason why the competition often seems completely unfair.

Any SR Down (penalty or not), getting the orange SR Down arrow for contact with another car deducts 10 SR.
Race A and B usually only give out 4 to 6 SR for a clean race, Race C nowadays is worth around 12 points per race.
This combined with penalties being assigned wrongly most of the time, does not guarantee any better racing at SR.S than at SR.C :/

In my experience, racing as DR.B SR.C is much better nowadays than at DR.A SR.S, sad but it's been like that for a couple months now.
Time of day, whether you do Race A/B or C make a big difference in where your SR goes, it has little left to do with sportmanship or driving by generally accepted racing rules. https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/

Matchmaking works by collecting all entries between 90 and 99 SR, sort on DR, create rooms.
Then collect all entries between 80 and 89 SR, sort on DR, add the highest DR to the left over spots in the last room created and continue.

This results in for example getting rooms like
1. A+/S90+ to B/S90+
2. B/S90+ to D/S90+
3. A+/S80+ with D/S90+ (the last D/S90+ room had spots left over which get filled with the highest DR in 80-89 range creating a A+ with D room)
4. A/S80+ to C/S80+
5. A/S70+ with C/S80+ to D/S80+ (the last 80-89 SR room had spots left over which get filled by the highest DR in 70-79 range)
etc

Matchmaking only really works in the 90 to 99 SR room, the rest all easily get messed up due to how the server fills up rooms.
Still when there aren't that many entries the top room is usually A+/S90+ to D/S90+, you don't stand a chance.

SR.B is the largest group, which makes the competition the closest. Most people to choose from to make evenly matched rooms. That is, if it weren't for DR resets and alt accounts coming through. (people that are labeled DR.B but drive like DR.A or A+)

Closer matched in pace also means more chance at contact and bad penalties, hence SR.B is such a difficult place to advance from.


Head spinning yet?

Don't worry too much about SR, D/S is the most demotivating place to be, usually getting matched with rabbits that are impossible to catch leading to getting timed out before the finish. D/S is only good for maintaining SR.99 since the field spreads out so quickly reducing chance of contact.
 
Now that my DR has dropped to 3k to 25k im now starting top half of grid in race C. Much more chance of a result up here.

Apart from when you drivers like this....
Guy on right gets dived at T1 from person up the straight,door contact and he loses speed. Ive got the run on him but he does have the inside for next corner. Then he comes all the way over hits me onto kerb and i spin out.

In the chat he calls me idiot. This was only time i seen him in the race

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Im sorry but youre wrong:) If it was that way, youll gain DR for 20th place:) If your number was 20...
I feel like the general trend is that you gain DR when you either finish above your door number, or when you at least finish above the players with a lower door number. So if I came in 5th, and my door number was 5, but the players behind me had numbers 1, 2, 3, and 4, I'd gain DR.

EDIT: What Gr.3 and Gr.1 cars do you think would be good for next weeks' races? I'm almost thinking a Group C car would be good at Sardegna A, considering all the straights.
 
Hey Guys ,found TPC racing streaming last night ,that was some good racing last night .The willow race was hysterical .Good to see/hear you got the chat going .I miss racing with you guys but I have to be in my office sooooo early (24 hour business)@Pigems your liveries are so beautiful :lol: :gtpflag::cheers:
 
I feel like the general trend is that you gain DR when you either finish above your door number, or when you at least finish above the players with a lower door number. So if I came in 5th, and my door number was 5, but the players behind me had numbers 1, 2, 3, and 4, I'd gain DR.

EDIT: What Gr.3 and Gr.1 cars do you think would be good for next weeks' races? I'm almost thinking a Group C car would be good at Sardegna A, considering all the straights.
If you ask me I say: Amg16 Lexus prototype Supra maybe? In gr1 there is no real choice TS050 or R18 '16 or ....
TS050
 
RCZ so kills in race B. Wondered why I'd get punted off in the mustang. Came close to pole but somehow a viper took P1, and he was all over the place. Took me out on turn 4 and pushed me to P5. Surge forward on last lap and stole it with the top 2 having penalties. I'm sure I can get a 2:04 with this thing.

 
If you ask me I say: Amg16 Lexus prototype Supra maybe? In gr1 there is no real choice TS050 or R18 '16 or ....
TS050

I'm going to practice and see if I make a decent few stabs at it with the R92CP. It's one of my favourite cars but usually the Group C cars have no chance unless it's La Sarthe.
 
RCZ so kills in race B. Wondered why I'd get punted off in the mustang. Came close to pole but somehow a viper took P1, and he was all over the place. Took me out on turn 4 and pushed me to P5. Surge forward on last lap and stole it with the top 2 having penalties. I'm sure I can get a 2:04 with this thing.



Yea never a fan of the RCZ myself, little annoying crushing turns, only to get caught half way down the following straight, forcing me to defend, slowing lap time.

Side note : my DR is nose diving from some not so stellar performances these past few days...

Running the Toyota 86 vs the RCZ’s for fun has NOT helped lol
 
Doh! Several good first laps to get into 1st-3rd in race B.

3 races in a row get caught on the straight following the last turn, lap 1, lunged on and punted t1 every time 8(

1st time - defend inside = punt + penalty
2nd time - normal line, little faster to avoid punt = get punted on apex
3rd time - go wide = punted on t2 + penalty

time to hang it up for the week, good riddance
 
Had a go at race c again this morning. Started 13th again on the bend, lost traction, guy behind forces me into grass i spin and quit. Sr drop. next race start first and win, then a 3rd and 5th place. Having 99SR seems pointless. RNFetchBlobTmp_bt8cb2jd9nvf7i51anc3fs.jpg

Edit... Then because of that clean race im back up on SR and next race start 13th. Top 3 are A+ Finish 12th with a door number of 20. Gain no DR and two A drivers finish back from me. Tuff this game...
 
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I've done a good bit of racing on Daily Race C this week and it's gone surprisingly well. Apart from my G29 accelerator spiking (currently trying some easy fixes without ripping the potentiometer apart), which probably only affected my acceleration marginally, but my concentration immensely, and only doing a couple races a day due to a lack of central air conditioning.

I won a single race from pole handily with a mediocre qualifying time because I was somehow matched with mostly D/S-rated drivers, I'll take it I guess.

But I did have a couple races that felt really good, considering how easy it is to spin the GT500 cars, and how tricky Autopolis is. Getting a consistent drive on that combination feels really good. My last race I started P4, overtook P3 who was sleeping on the rolling start, never lost sight of the two cars ahead (although I certainly wasn't going to catch them) and never came under threat from behind, all of whom had A+ ratings.

I've been doing hour-long races in Project Cars 2, which makes maintaining focus for these twenty-minute races much easier.
 
Well I could do but I will probably just repeat some GT League races for my workout's or I might finally install Project Cars.
Well I could do but I will probably just repeat some GT League races for my workout's or I might finally install Project Cars.

I get you! I installed PC2 last night. I went to start my 'career', and the program will not recognise my G29 wheel and pedal set, just the controller.

Not happy, Jan.
 
I get you! I installed PC2 last night. I went to start my 'career', and the program will not recognise my G29 wheel and pedal set, just the controller.

Not happy, Jan.

im pretty sure if you start PC2 with the controller it wont recognize the wheel. you have to start the application with the button on the wheel.

idk if that helps
 
im pretty sure if you start PC2 with the controller it wont recognize the wheel. you have to start the application with the button on the wheel.

idk if that helps
What you say sounds logical! Now to figure out how to disable the controller. I'll try and close the game, and start with the wheel. Hopefully it will override the controller!

Thanks!

P.S. As this is a GT Sport thread - and NOT PC2 - I'll leave it there. I was replying to another post that mentioned PC2. Apologies.
 
Morning! I did some testing and it turns out that even TS050 have to pit in race C... Thats a good news, at last its gr1 combo where worlds fastest diesel can be competetive:) Only just 8 hours in work and Im gonna try it out:)

Edit: just watched @pantherjag video, and of course TS050 can do nostopper with fuel saving... I tested it flat out and got to pit on 11th lap
 
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Yeah Daily Race C looks like a 1 stop to me. I tried to fuel save to the end, but the guy ahead of me pitted on lap 11 and managed to come out ahead of me. Think the fuel saving is a little too severe to not make it worth while to take a splash and dash pit towards the end of the race. Maybe if you had the slipstream, but I found it hard to follow through the faster corners, so I think it might be best to 1 stop. Would guess that everyone is going to be in the the Toyota though.

Also, seems to be an idea to Qualify using the Audi R18, as it looks to be about 0.75 secs faster over one lap.
 
Yeah Daily Race C looks like a 1 stop to me. I tried to fuel save to the end, but the guy ahead of me pitted on lap 11 and managed to come out ahead of me. Think the fuel saving is a little too severe to not make it worth while to take a splash and dash pit towards the end of the race. Maybe if you had the slipstream, but I found it hard to follow through the faster corners, so I think it might be best to 1 stop. Would guess that everyone is going to be in the the Toyota though.

Also, seems to be an idea to Qualify using the Audi R18, as it looks to be about 0.75 secs faster over one lap.
Man you are fast, I see you got 2 times in top ten on leaderboard, whats most important sheltie is found at last;)
 
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