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Had to pause at the second chicane for the no brakes brigade. Love the rear camera in cockpit view.
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These two attempts at Daily Race A were...eventful. Surprisingly enough, that damn hairpin caused a few issues during the race. No matter how idiotic people are, or how many mistakes you make yourself though, it's always best to see these through until the end.

Race 1 features an unexpected appearance from fellow GT Sport YouTuber Tidgney
 
For the life of me I just can't seem to get anything going faster than 1.5 other than the TT on seaside, I know what the problem is I'm braking to early and to much but I seem to fly off track if I don't brake where I do, mmmmmm :irked:
 
Fennario
Definitely a different experience. Started the night with 99SR behind the wheel of the Nerf TT. 1st race at DTS I was in a lobby that Chevy_Heavy dominated, but that's his story to tell... Mine is that I got one SR down for being the beneficiary of a bump draft after the COD, and a second for a light touch at the final apex while battling for P4 with another car when the P6 dive bomber barged past. Neither resulted in a penalty but ended the race P6 at 83SR. 2nd race in the low S lobby I got another SR down for a single light touch at the apex before the hill leading to the Hansen Brothers - this was more of a racing incident (had a great race with the "offender"). Net result was P4 and SR73 at the end of the race. 3rd race was in the mixed SRA/B lobby. Was p2 at the start but P1 binned it at COD on the first lap giving me a clear road ahead... took the flag and a CRB to put me back into low S (SR85). May go back in a bit to get my car of the day a bit early.
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That’s what I mean re pens. You were in the TT. If you friend Chevy then we can connect also and you can see the replays I shared and see that in my case I had much more contact than you and others did with minimal sr down in comparison...
The only difference I can think of is car choice. Great livery btw.
I saw a stream late last night and there was a fella in the Mcclaren that beat a pretty fast guy in the Viper and the Viper couldn’t pull the Mcclaren on the straights. Can’t remember times if they were 44 in race but I know the Mcclaren was 45.1 to .4 in race.
There’s other cars besides TT. The RCZ is fast Viper, Mustang drives well but the chicane of insanity it’s a little shaky,
In race I really like the Ferrari it loves those types of turns and you just floor it-rev the snot out of it.
Anyways hope to see ya in game.
 
Only had a chance to do one race last night, did Seaside.

Smooth race, everyone had a .5second gap, pretty much no battling that I could see. Laps 1/2/3 one person messed up the CoD, and everyone made it by cleanly, handing me Q12 to a P9 finish.

Lol just a solid drive

Trying to creep back up too A-DR, after I lost it from loosing power in a race -_-

So far, EVERY race I’ve qualified about 2 spots up from my door number, and gained about 2 spots for finish. Each landing me about 200DR

Sooo... “I creep....Yeeeeaaahh, just keep it on the downlow...”
 
Jason885
just out of interest what speed are you doing going through the chicane of death, I'm hitting 118mph until exiting and exit at 90/91mph.
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I typically am doing 120 MPH when I bounce the right front tire off the ground on the exit of the CoD. Any less & I feel like I've lost so much time on track. I'll be posting a video later. I believe that I had the data on screen for a few clips.
 
Just had a heart stopped on seaside, started p4, screwed up T2 in to about p11 fought my way through and finished p3, heart is still pounding great race :D

Its good to see such a verity of cars on the track and racing clean it's a whole different game when played right.
 
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This Audi TT sure is something.

Ed - you want to know how my day at Seaside is going? Coque Lopez is racing from the back and he managed to divebomb me into turn one. What a game. No wonder I never do dailies.
 
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For the life of me I just can't seem to get anything going faster than 1.5 other than the TT on seaside, I know what the problem is I'm braking to early and to much but I seem to fly off track if I don't brake where I do, mmmmmm :irked:
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stpatty
This Audi TT sure is something.
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The TT's weight gives it a huge advantage in braking and cornering. Its cornering advantage goes away when power is being put down (FF), but this doesn't affect it's braking. Net-net it can outbrake pretty much any other Gr.4 car except for possibly the Scirocco - especially in manual transmission with well timed downshifts/additional engine braking. Eg. at DTS Turn 1, you can start braking at the beginning of the curbing stripes - not at the cones or red pavement. Move back to the red pavement and you can start on the left side of the track and still dominate the inside/fast line. Pretty much the same thing with every braking zone at DTS...

In order to achieve "slow in, fast out" the FR cars need to start putting the power down at the apex vs. FF which needs to do it more gradually and later in the exit. The entry, line, and cornering method of the TT gets in the way of the FR putting the power down at apex and allows it to dominate. The weak point is if the TT gets held up in traffic at a corner and/or the FR is smart and holds back a bit before corner entry... then FR's will crush it on the straights.
 
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Despite all of the warnings, I ventured into Monza last night after my dismal showing in the Nations race. I qualified 8th and finished 6th. The Lexus felt really smooth around this track.....(oops, sorry @05XR8, I forget this is supposed to be a secret)....correction, the Lexus felt like a dump truck driving around this track. I have no idea how I managed to finish 6th!

Turn 1 on this race was much more calm and respectful than Turn 1 in the Tsukuba race. This race had a little bit of everything. I passed some people, some people passed me, I had a few track limit penalties, there was a pit stop where you actually had to put in a lot of fuel, two different tire compounds, etc. Overall, a pretty good race!
 
Fennario
The TT's weight gives it a huge advantage in braking and cornering. Its cornering advantage goes away when power is being put down (FF), but this doesn't affect it's braking. Net-net it can outbrake pretty much any other Gr.4 car except for possibly the Scirocco - especially in manual transmission with well timed downshifts/additional engine braking. Eg. at DTS Turn 1, you can start breaking at the beginning of the curbing stripes - not at the cones or red pavement. Move back to the red pavement and you can dominate the inside/fast line. Pretty much the same thing with every braking zone at DTS...
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Yes I have found when battling for a position I can let the other car go past and then take him on the corner by going tighter I seem to do a lot better when under presure as long as I don't miss my braking point :)
 
Sometimes it’s good at Seaside to go in and go for it. Sim racing can get too serious at times...Sometimes you need a little ‘let it all hang out’ in your racing...

I was talking to a friend about it when it comes to battling on track. Imo best to settle a scrap if you need to settle it vs being Uber serious and letting it get to you after and crying over it. Mentally imo best to take immediate action-better for the mind...Tonight imma hit up FIA and try to go 85-99 then it’s time for more Seaside!


Edit I’d say if you’ve never ‘gone dirty’ and raced like in E rooms it’s worth doing and you will learn better how to defend and why proper defense is what it is and it’s good for quick thinking/racecraft. I did that about a year ago and racing people who have just been reset trying to kill everyone with nothing to lose is beneficial to awareness and is fun in its own way.
 
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Lost 24 SR at Monza in a race where I finished 7th

My favourite was going into a Beetle at Ascari when they'd made contact ahead and were perpendicular to the racing line
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Well yes you're supposed to avoid running into crashed cars just like real life. :confused:
 
Probably won't get the chance to race this week. So figured I'd spend some time and work on my K score.

Monza is a tonne of fun once you get in to a rhythm, especially when you're alone on the track and not having to watch your SR/DR disappear before your eyes.

Down to a 1:46.771. I don't see myself getting any quicker than that. Maybe I'll hop in some races over the weekend if I get some time off work. Hopefully won't end in a DR reset.
 
I know it's fictional. So I don't mean this literally. ie there is no tunnel. But I think Dragon Trail is based on Cavtat, Croatia. In any case, worth the video vacation.:) 👍

 
Race A hasn't been hard on my SR, but I cannot seem to find Ws there. Turn 1, you just have to block the inside. I have given up on taking a normal line.

Then when I get through, either I kill myself, or someone else kills me. LOL. I bludgeoned one poor fella in lap one trying to slip in right behind him. My radar said he was clear, but apparently he wasn't. Hit him 4 times before I finally just let off the gas in turn 4 and made sure he was well in front. Funny part, I got a clean race bonus for that one and at the end I actually felt quite dirty. Apologies to CrisGabi10. He exited before I could say it in chat.
 
This is one of the most challenging situations in the game for me. Someone close in front, and someone close behind.
I back off a bit to give the person in front of me a little room for the braking zone, but the person behind me doesn't give a damn, or wasn't prepared. The only two ways I know to avoid this problem is to move over and let the the person behind me pass (but that's not really racing), or give the person in front of me a penalty (I'd rather not).
If someone else has a better strategy, please say so, because I can't seem to figure it out. :irked:
 
sturk0167
This is one of the most challenging situations in the game for me. Someone close in front, and someone close behind.
I back off a bit to give the person in front of me a little room for the braking zone, but the person behind me doesn't give a damn, or wasn't prepared. The only two ways I know to avoid this problem is to move over and let the the person behind me pass (but that's not really racing), or give the person in front of me a penalty (I'd rather not).
If someone else has a better strategy, please say so, because I can't seem to figure it out. :irked:
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Maybe just a slight tap on the brake to indicate you may be slowing down. He may not have seen the Corvette in front of you if he was using bumper cam, but that's his fault. That's why I use chase cam. You're really at the mercy of the car in back of you and that driver's racecraft in that situation. IRL it's always the following drivers fault in an accident. However in Japan it must be the opposite as evidenced by PD's penalty system. :lol:
 
sturk0167
This is one of the most challenging situations in the game for me. Someone close in front, and someone close behind.
I back off a bit to give the person in front of me a little room for the braking zone, but the person behind me doesn't give a damn, or wasn't prepared. The only two ways I know to avoid this problem is to move over and let the the person behind me pass (but that's not really racing), or give the person in front of me a penalty (I'd rather not).
If someone else has a better strategy, please say so, because I can't seem to figure it out. :irked:
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As far as I’m concerned, if I’m closing in on someone like that, I’d pull out of line. Of course I say that after posting a video of me in a train through the CoD. I cut the clip right before the game gave me a 1 second penalty. I didn’t slow down! I didn’t feel the car behind touch me! And I certainly didn’t bump the car in front of me.

Chevy Heavy
Maybe just a slight tap on the brake to indicate you may be slowing down. He may not have seen the Corvette in front of you if he was using bumper cam, but that's his fault. That's why I use chase cam. You're really at the mercy of the car in back of you and that driver's racecraft in that situation. IRL it's always the following drivers fault in an accident. However in Japan it must be the opposite as evidenced by PD's penalty system. :lol:
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Well, they do drive on the opposite side of the road....:p
 
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Maybe just a slight tap on the brake to indicate you may be slowing down. He may not have seen the Corvette in front of you if he was using bumper cam, but that's his fault. That's why I use chase cam. You're really at the mercy of the car in back of you and that driver's racecraft in that situation. IRL it's always the following drivers fault in an accident. However in Japan it must be the opposite as evidenced by PD's penalty system. :lol:
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I agree with a slight, and early tap on the brakes to indicate your about to brake to the behind driver is best. Something I seldom use or remember myself, but I’ve done it and seen it done plenty of times.
End of the day though whatever you do - will just hopefully fall in line with what the driver behind you is expecting/their race craft and skill.
I generally try to get into a different position if possible in this situation, IF I’m not just holding my line.
 
How in the world do people actually expect to get away with stuff like this???
I truly believe that the people who don't retaliate are to blame. Quit acting like pussies! You're putting the rest of us in danger. :mad:
When you let this sort of thing slide, they keep doing it to other people.
The best racing we had was when the penalties were turned off for a month or so, and people freely dished out their own vigilante justice.
 
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Is it just me or is the internet generally getting worse? So many incidents are purely related to lag, cars stalling mid corner, jumping back under braking, sliding out sideways in corners to jump back inwards. Of course since I like to race without quali I meet 80% of the connections in the room and it's not pretty. Plus I had 3 disconnects yesterday, another reason not to care about DR :lol:

Incidentally Steam crashed as well, again.
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Can't connect, the internet isn't what it used to be :ouch:
 
sturk0167
This is one of the most challenging situations in the game for me. Someone close in front, and someone close behind.
I back off a bit to give the person in front of me a little room for the braking zone, but the person behind me doesn't give a damn, or wasn't prepared. The only two ways I know to avoid this problem is to move over and let the the person behind me pass (but that's not really racing), or give the person in front of me a penalty (I'd rather not).
If someone else has a better strategy, please say so, because I can't seem to figure it out. :irked:
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His fault there...Tough situation, there’s no ‘strategy of everything’
Far your the Sprite vid I totally agree people who do that need to get ‘calibrated’ by the rest of the culture. Ain’t not Ghandi here :)

Tonight was some good alt fun! Might do some more...I recovered sr from 85 my first entry then got a red s my second, worth it tho...I saw Sabotage.
I roll in the prancing horse this week...Fun!
 
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You got to have the time to spend if you want a clean race in SR.S on Monza. On the the 5th one or is it 6th, one of these should be clean lol. I started at 99 SR, now at 72. My DR went up, so now everything is my fault again lol. Whatever, sweet passes in every race. I guess it's to be expected that when you pass someone they want to immediately take back the position at all cost, like waving a red flag in front of a bull. Had some sweet dodges as well, Monza kind of resembles a bullet hell shooter at times :lol:

Time to quit, it's only getting worse the later it gets, the more my DR goes up and SR goes down. 64 SR left. One 4 sec SR Down led to payback, I'll only take so many blows before running out of cheeks. It was a surgical strike, radar is multi purpose, good for avoiding, good for targeting :lol: Cleanly spun into the sand between Roggia and Lesmo, all traffic around unaffected. Of course no penalty for that and I stayed ahead of him at the penalty zone... He still had a blue S at the end, penalty system doesn't work, got to do it yourself :ouch:
 
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Well going with the theme of revenge, after 576 races. I just took out my first revenge.

Ive been bumped and battered with the best of em, and shared a track with people who clearly did not like the color of my car or something....

BUT usally I just race 100% more aggressively against said person, or just wait for them to screw up. Definitely elbows out.

Today I came flying out of the CoD, and went to pass a fellow American, and he ran me straight into the wall. I even gave him the benefit of the doubt almost the whole time.

“maybe he was moving out of the way and didn’t see me move for the pass”.... hits me... “oh hello, I’m here, passing you...” push push WALL

So I gave him a good punt next turn, taking a 2 second penalty. The pack caught me as I severed it and I politely got out of the way the best I could.

Clean awesome fun race after that.

But worth the 5 spots I lost....? worth not saying I never have anymore....? IDK
 
No idea what I am doing wrong in qualifying in race c, I ran a 48.8 with an optimal of 48.6 so not like I am messing up my sectors. I just don't have the pace of my fellow low A and high B drivers.

Come the race names starting 12th to 16th but finishing top 7, some of that inside to incidents nut my pace is fine, I can run with these guys in race trim.

Weird.
 
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