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A Viper spun out and hit me on the Nords, and BAM! 3-second penalty. Safe to say I won't be doing A or B this week. C is actually really fun, Bathurst at night is a unique setting and it's quite fun in a Corvette. I'm struggling a bit with tyre wear though, I keep sBinning near the end. Anyone have any other tips for Bathurst?
 
1:33.445 at Tokyo after about 400 miles of practice. I can get about a tenth and a half more, though I am not nearly as consistent at Central Inner Loop as Outer. If I can get a .3xx or better I will upload a video.
 
Nordschliefe loving it. Crayon eating glue sniffing drongos keep trying to bump draft me!!!! I am so ready to just start head butting walls. The FIA race had some swerve blocking people. The ones who make a mistake then swerve directly into your oath to prevent you passing. I am getting the other ones in race B now. I keep a straight line as they are catching. . . . And they blast me square in the rear to boost me? Do they all forget that this is killing my ratings?

Ugh :banghead: :banghead::banghead:
 
Atenza did good in Race B. No qualy, 14/16 to 10/16.

Cayman won over a TT. There were five Caymans in the race. Three in the top seven. A good amount of AWD cars. I finished behind a Lancer that started ahead of me. A GT-R finished behind me and a couple WRXs(one started ahead of the Lancer, the other was last) seem to have crashed. Finished way down the order.
 
Tried the nord on my A account last night. Started 12th...last place qualifier. Had a good lap going, holding position. Apparently my 7:15 is too slow for A, since P11 on the grid was 5 seconds faster and the top 5 were all 7:02 or better. I'm pretty sure I was running a sub 7:10 pace until I got wide just before the first carousel and brushed the wall. Finished P13. Back to my alt account (B/A) with no Q and I'm starting 13th right behind svennoj. Unfortinately for him, he got a .5 second penalty before the start line. Didn't stop him from finishing 3rd. I was hoping to hang on and have him drag me to the front, and I did, for a while, but once he got a couple cars between us, I started loosing touch. Then one of those pesky, over agressive TT's got a nose in on one of the tight sections, got me sliding and I took a trip through the grass, loosing time. Managed P6 with the CRB, so I'm not complaining, though Sven was 20+ seconds in front of me at the finish. Maybe I'll run some laps, maybe try the Vette or Viper, and see if I can get my Q down.
 
I have come to the conclusion that in any race A's it does you no favours driving clean and having manner points that puts you in to S, unless you are gridded in p1-p4, any lower than that and it's just carnage and just gets worse as the week goes on, as more and more bad drivers and dirty drivers get the confidance to enter the race.
Don't get me wrong I love racing in race A's its just a pain when a driver does his best to mess your race up with dirty tack ticks, don't mined the bad racers we have all started at a low level of skill and you need to race to build up.
The matching system is a joke but it is what it is.
Have decided to totally smash my SR down to 1 and start from scratch. :boggled:
 
Tried the nord on my A account last night. Started 12th...last place qualifier. Had a good lap going, holding position. Apparently my 7:15 is too slow for A, since P11 on the grid was 5 seconds faster and the top 5 were all 7:02 or better. I'm pretty sure I was running a sub 7:10 pace until I got wide just before the first carousel and brushed the wall. Finished P13. Back to my alt account (B/A) with no Q and I'm starting 13th right behind svennoj. Unfortinately for him, he got a .5 second penalty before the start line. Didn't stop him from finishing 3rd. I was hoping to hang on and have him drag me to the front, and I did, for a while, but once he got a couple cars between us, I started loosing touch. Then one of those pesky, over agressive TT's got a nose in on one of the tight sections, got me sliding and I took a trip through the grass, loosing time. Managed P6 with the CRB, so I'm not complaining, though Sven was 20+ seconds in front of me at the finish. Maybe I'll run some laps, maybe try the Vette or Viper, and see if I can get my Q down.
I thought a 7:10/7:11 was going to be decent enough for the Ring for a QT, but as soon as I got to 99SR lobbies, it was chock full of faster times and I was gridded near the back. Unfortunately, in A DR, there are not enough people playing that you can avoid the top guys in that race, at any slightly busy time, I think. So not going to be a place to bump DR up for the rest of the week, but it IS a blast to drive that race, and I think in most cases in those types of lobbies, will be pretty clean as people putting in 7:10 QT are pretty consistent and the order sorts out pretty early on... from there, it's just a matter of not making mistakes and finishing clean with where you start. But so fun... Gr4 cars give you time to focus on your driving... a great combo in my opinion.

I might have a 7:08 or so in me, but I don't see getting much past that.

Also: I suppose it's an old topic, but that 'hitch' or glitch when you cross the line, when putting in qualifying laps... so annoying! Anyone know a fix? Really is pronounced at this track, hard to be clean into T1 when that happens.
 
Also: I suppose it's an old topic, but that 'hitch' or glitch when you cross the line, when putting in qualifying laps... so annoying! Anyone know a fix? Really is pronounced at this track, hard to be clean into T1 when that happens.
I thought that was just my system! You have a choice. Lift when frozen, and loose a bit of time, or wait until moving again, and usually get in too hot. I take the first choice. I know I can lap at sub 7:05 (maybe better) if I can keep it together for a lap. Might have to lap for an hour, non stop, just to see where my optimum ends up if I can't get a clean lap. It's so long, and I usually don't have a lot of time, so I reset when I blow it, and never get an optimum. I do wish they would do the Nord as a 2 lap B race. 3 laps on C would be good, especially if tire choice was an option.
 
This is the first time I've done a daily race on Bathurst and the first time I've ever driven the GT-R and it's going pretty well. I still need to get my consistency up but I usually gain places. I won two in a row last night that I'm not sure I deserved but whatever.

I do like the high skill threshold of the circuit. It's really funny watching people try to pull bold moves and go flying into the gravel. I was rapidly gaining on a Porsche and sat directly behind them for three laps as I was in no danger of being out-driven but they were extremely defensive and I didn't want to ruin my race. I finally got a serious run on the back straight into the right kink, and they kept taking the outside, presumably to get the inside for the next turn? I knew exactly what was going to happen but the longer I waited just gave them more chances to make stupid moves so I took it. They went onto the grass, back onto the circuit and couldn't even begin to slow down, and flew right into the gravel.

I don't understand why so many people would rather ruin their race than lose a single position. All they had to do was lift a little and get back on the racing line... As if losing a position makes you look bad or insecure about your ability, so you make a move that was never going to work. If we have a fairly even pace, game on. If I'm gaining almost two seconds per lap and proceed to sit directly behind you for three laps, just move and let me through. I don't want to ruin someone else's race, and most people will not be that patient.
 
Has the bop for gr. 3 changed that much?
Instead of the GT-R, is the vantage the new 0-200km/h car?

Also, what's a good car to take up the mountain without being the vantage?

Try the Hyundai. Slowish on the straights so racing is tricky but it's very stable across the top and you can carry great speed through the dipper (downhill section) due to rear end stability.

So, I was HARD reset last night, first time. SRE and DR0. I was 700 points from reaching 40,000 for the first time :(

I will admit I was not perfectly clean but certainly nothing intentional and I was blamed for 2 incidents that 100% were not my fault. I should have known that 0.7 second lead into T1 was too tempting for certain individuals in a bettle and it was, push rammed up the inside. Then he blocked me for 4 laps and was so achingly slow. Brutal.

Anyways, won the my "first" 2 races by 20 seconds each and as much as i do not want to use the Aston, in clean air I averaged 2.06 flat on flying laps which for me, i think that is very quick and consistent across 8 flyers and a qualy lap of 2.04 flat on fresh rubber.

kudos for the increase in EV in game, absolute life saver!
 
Welcome back! :cheers: You can find the top 100 lap times here for the daily races, I believe it has other stats as well.
https://gtsport.r1s3.net/

You can find top 100 lap times for FIA races here.

https://gtsport.r1s3.net/championships

This one has the full list of all Daily Race times, and you can also see the upcoming weeks races when they’re posted ahead of time.
https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/events.php

A
nd this final one, if you type your PSN name into the search, you can see all your GTS stats to date. :)
https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=search

Thanks Pigems, I really appreciate the info, was able to get a low 7:10 Qual and maybe squeak out a couple more seconds before weeks end.
 
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I thought that was just my system! You have a choice. Lift when frozen, and loose a bit of time, or wait until moving again, and usually get in too hot. I take the first choice. I know I can lap at sub 7:05 (maybe better) if I can keep it together for a lap. Might have to lap for an hour, non stop, just to see where my optimum ends up if I can't get a clean lap. It's so long, and I usually don't have a lot of time, so I reset when I blow it, and never get an optimum. I do wish they would do the Nord as a 2 lap B race. 3 laps on C would be good, especially if tire choice was an option.
I've got a 7:08 in me (my K' target this week) I'm sure, in the TT... I was on track for that, when time expired before a race (there's 'just' enough time to put in one QT between races... or maybe not! I made it to the final turn before the matching screen loaded), but I would have to sit down and lap for an hour to know whether I could get to 7:05...

I'm normally within <2% of the leaders, or better, in Gr4 cars, so it stands to reason I could get there, but the 'Ring is such a special place and the long sections really exaggerate if you've missed any corners, especially on exit, so it's a great, fun challenge. I see @afc5150 has put in a nice time, which I expect as he is a Ring aficionado... Given our similar pace and his expertise at Nurburgring, I'll call it a win if I can get to his mark.

So far I have only run the TT (and I need to run it with BB adjusted, so far I haven't touched that), but interested to know whether I could get my trusty Cayman or the Viper to a faster time. While the TT is META, that assumes you are a top-10 driver... I think that the Viper may cover some of my smaller mistakes better, but we'll see. But it's a very fun Daily Race combo...

(key to the TT is to always maintain some part throttle... never coast at 0% throttle... contrary to my recent posts, which were assuming FR/MR cars... the TT and other FWD Gr4 cars are a different beast. And how fun is it to balance the TT on the nose in Wehrseifen, for that hard left hairpin? You just load up the front end with the brakes, keep some throttle on, and let the rear end swing around until you can ramp up to WOT on the way out... so much easier in that car than most high-HP FR/MR)
 
That's one thing I really took to heart when reading Skip Barber's "Going Faster". It's just one of the little blurb quotes (this one is by Skip himself) but it says everything about these situations:

Recently in the Pro Series we had one driver who could go around pretty well all by himself -- when he would get into the defensive driving mode, he'd manage to hold somebody behind him, but seven other guys would catch them both. He'd end up much worse off than if he'd just let one guy by. Instead of going second place to third place, he'd go second to ninth

I always have that in the back of my head when racing. Am I successfully defending my position, or am I slowing us both down and sacrificing more than the one position I'm holding?
 
In the Immortal words of Dominic Toreto ......WINNING is WINNING

I agree, since I have no control over matchmaking and I don't intentionally sabotage my SR to match against less-skilled drivers like some people do. It's just funny when I make some serious mistakes and still end up winning. Bathurst is pretty difficult though. After playing a lot of ACC I've realized how awkward trailbraking is in GT Sport, and it can be really hard to get right at the end of the downhill section.

I always have that in the back of my head when racing. Am I successfully defending my position, or am I slowing us both down and sacrificing more than the one position I'm holding?

Especially in GT Sport, it's a safe assumption that the person you're defending from might just force their way through and push you off the circuit anyway.
 
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Probably won't have time to race this week. So spent some time trying to improve my K' score. I know it doesn't mean much, but I like the target times that it challenges you to beat.

Race C, somehow managed a 2:03.146. About .14 off my optimal time. Would love to break in to the 2:02... but don't see that happening.
 
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Ok, I may have been a bit optimistic in my time estimates at the nord. I ran 5 complete laps and got my time down to 7:12.5. Managed (2) laps in the 12's, then blew a lap. Got my optimum to a 10 flat. Switched to the viper. Since I was warmed up, I decided to race with that Q time. Probably my best race ever here. Now I need to watch some replays and see if I can figure out where I'm loosing 10+ seconds.
 
View attachment 954741 View attachment 954742 Ok, I may have been a bit optimistic in my time estimates at the nord. I ran 5 complete laps and got my time down to 7:12.5. Managed (2) laps in the 12's, then blew a lap. Got my optimum to a 10 flat. Switched to the viper. Since I was warmed up, I decided to race with that Q time. Probably my best race ever here. Now I need to watch some replays and see if I can figure out where I'm loosing 10+ seconds.
If you do like me and either wreck or get punted for daring to brake in a braking zone you can quickly end up mid B where there are more drivers our speed.:D

Not intentionally dropping DR, but I am not great and smooth at the Nord, do like the driving there though. Currently starting p7 or 8 most races with a 7.11.1 and an optimal in the 08 region. Some of those corners I have found work much faster if you dont actually attack them but just cruise a little.
 
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If you do like me and either wreck or get punted for daring to brake in a braking zone you can quickly end up mid B where there are more drivers our speed.:D

Not intentionally dropping DR, but I am not great and smooth at the Nord, do like the driving there though. Currently starting p7 or 8 most races with a 7.11.1 and an optimal in the 08 region. Some of those corners I have found work much faster if you dont actually attack them but just cruise a little.
Over driving is typically my biggest problem. Funny, because IRL I was always smooth and in control. Of course, the downside IRL can be a bit more painful.:lol:
 
Race B at the 'Ring remains a blast in the US today. Starting 5-7th in a A/S lobby with a 7:08 QT... I know I can get into the 7:06 range with some more lapping, but I can't wait to jump in and race...

But: if you've ever experienced the 'blue flag bug' where the whole 1st lap you get the blue flags, right from the start, what a distraction on the Nordschleife! It's hard enough to concentrate while watching the mirrors, then you add that distraction, and it's nerve-wracking. Given that the first lap is the only lap, you're stuck with the darn things waving and the lights shining at each marshals stations for all 7+ minutes... it did seem like the lazier marshalls on the back section had given up waving them vigorously though, and were just holding them out. But managed a decent result and padded my alt account with a few hundred more DR anyway.

Such a fun race. (And when guys who get penalties let you past, as to avoid resetting the rest of the race... that's fine by me too!)
 
Race A is horrible. Fun to time trial but the race itself, don't even go there lol.

I lost around 25 SR. Someone hit my side and followed up by hitting the wall. I don't know how I'm supposed to prevent people turning into me, losing control and smashing themselves into the barrier. After I served my penalty and unghosted, a car purposely (I left space to my right and wasn't dead center) bumped my rear and I got another 1 sec penalty.

Although at least it's back to cleaner SR A lobbies with less DR A+ and A. That's never a bad thing.
 
Matchmaking at Bathurst is a hoot-started with DR/B,SR/S,qualified well and got my arse kicked down to C/D,worst ever.Funny thing is the racing down there is sloppier but way more fun and totally unpredictable.Crept around in the 2:08`s and got back to B/S and it`s a 9 lap time trial,lapping on my own? -also,bit disappointed that at this level,Lap 1 is so brutal,especially with 8 laps to go and cold tyres-oh well….
 
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