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Race has been fantastic this evening. I’ve been lucky to have a 5 crb streak, running from last.
It’s just such a fantastic race for so many reasons...
I have been running the default tcs and brake balance and the 86 is fantastic to drive imo. The tcs isn’t intrusive at all and if you are driving well it doesn’t hinder you at all.
I will say I’ve raced a ton lately and 95-98 percent of the drivers I’m racing are slower because of having it off, not only that, they have a harder time with penalties with all their wheelspin and upset cars, unable to hold the racing line.
On race A imo you need to get that 86 to “take a set” in those turns by controlled braking on entry then getting on throttle with the nose down to level the car and then when it’s stable hold it on the floor.
The line is critical there, you gotta hit those apexes and take advantage of the banking to do well. It’s fantastically fun and challenging and the time of day is gorgeous too.
From behind you have to be patient and take what the cars ahead give. It’s not a track to stuff it in there. If you chill out and have fun and be fair it’s a blast! Toyota has great systems, watch what happens here with aids defeated...


I’m not telling anyone here (experienced players) to do anything but what they like, but for those who might be lurking, don’t mess with the defaults on the cars, just improve your driving. If tcs is activating too much you need to practice smoothing things out and get on the line. (If you wanna race better or at least get less pens.
Wheelspin doesn’t accelerate the car as much as traction.
I know most people posting here are beyond this, but I’m sure less experienced people check out these threads also.
Basically if you can hold a good line you are ahead of minimum 60-70 percent of players.
(Writing this after a lot of races lately with d to lower b dr folks)
You’d be surprised what patience brings in online racing.
Let the race develop a bit people will make mistakes and things will open up, patience, breath relax lol
I think disdain for tcs must come from past generations of games, games I never played.
Other titles are different. Gts tcs works well. Dr2 differs. I run nothing in that...Bit it’s rally so...The fast way around the tracks is smooth for me and doing as little on the controls as possible. It’s easier.
Again, a lot of folks here are very very experienced, so opinions differ, and more power to ya if you’re faster without it I guess, but to me it makes everything more fun. I like racing close and to me a mistake could mean a trip to time out if I get a pen TCS gives me that confidence.
I see so many spins online and outta control slides at d to b dr.
Anyways
Race A is the one for me this week and usually I kinda avoid street cars, but this is a good one, especially on a no qual.
Cheers
 
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After nations, ran Race A. Was okay. Started next to last and finished P4.

Race C. I'm going to have to chop cars into T1. Started 4th again and T1, players from the back just don't pull up. So, I have to go slow because, a car in front is recovering on the left side astro turf.
Have to go slow after the straight because players go side by side. Get bumped because a player can't slow up while in my draft, in the brake zone.

Tired of running Suzuka. Need the Daily rotation of races.
 
I’m not telling anyone here (experienced players) to do anything but what they like, but for those who might be lurking, don’t mess with the defaults on the cars, just improve your driving. If tcs is activating too much you need to practice smoothing things out and get on the line.

I've seen some better driving last night in race A than in most dailies. There was one guy who bumped me into the desert (no penalty) out of a fight for second & finished ??? way back. Had another race where we gave room & went side by side. I was on his 6 when I dipped a wheel off track & lost 3rd, finished 5th.
 
Race A is a tonne of fun (perhaps because I'm not on my main account). Unfortunately got taken out a few times last night and for once, decided to return the favour. Needless to say, DR reset ensued, but back up to C/A. Lots of fast, clean drivers, with a few exceptions. Managed a 1:30.8 in race. So figured I'd try get my quali time to match that on the main.

Can't quite seem to nail it. But gotten down to a 1:30.9. In EMEA, wouldn't be too surprised to see them sneak in to the 1:29's.
 
Makes me wish for a big Dodge/Ram truck in this game. I love Van Halen & got really into Humans Being.




That is a great song, but it's not the best thing they did for that movie.

During the ending credits, there is this...



If that doesn't make the hair on your neck stand up, you must be deaf.

A few months ago we had a nephew come for a sleepover, and for some odd reason he is obsessed with tornado sirens. Naturally, I had the idea to show the boys Twister. I forgot how freaking good that movie actually is, even after 25 years.

RIP, Eddie.
Live forever, Diamond Dave.
 
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Race C today, started 16th, ended 14th (10th after others penalties). Fairly good race except for 3 orange down checks compliments of 2 punts and a side push off the track but my composure maintained and looking forward to a few more runs.
 
Monday I ran 5 races at Spa. 3 CRBs and a best finish of 3rd. Back to DR A and maintained a 99 SR. Yay!

Tuesday morning I got a race in before work and had a top 5 finish, but picked up enough SR downs to drop below 90. 2 afternoon races I ended up racing against a couple of aggressive dive bombers and picked up a few SR downs and a penalty for getting punted into someone. Was able to leave with 86 SR.

Tuesday night was a disaster. In my second and final race for the night I started P2. I had some concerns looking at the field, but thought if I got a good start that I could build a gap and maybe even win. My start was fine, but I see P1 smoking their tires just before they take a hard left and body slam me into the wall and DFL. I should have quit right there, but wanted to see if I could recover.

The driving at the back was the worst I’ve encountered in some time. Swerving, blocking, dive bombs, and brake checks. Some of them were just bad and not dirty. Either way I made it through, but it cost me dearly. Finished 2nd, but SR is now a 48. I’ll be out there today letting everyone by until I can get back in the top split. Good luck everyone else.

EDIT: Here’s a clip of that start.
 
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Well, here we go.
For Famine's sake, I won't fully express my thoughts with text.
This is what makes my blood boil, and sends me into vigilante mode. :mad:
At the start of the clip, I think most of you will know what's about to happen. For the record, I started last and this idiot started first.


No penalty for him? Hey, PD programmers, go work at 7-11. You are incompetent. It's unbelievable that someone can get a win when they do that, but I get a penalty for a slight bumper tap. :confused:

This one got a penalty for hitting me, even though I didn't go off track. Again, PD programmers, go find some janitorial jobs. Your ineptitude is hurting your company. Figure out how to be consistent.
Anyhow, he slowed down so he can hit me for getting in his way, I guess.


Of course, I sent post-race threats to both of them, encouraging them to pray that they never see me again. :mischievous:
Punt on sight.


Wow @sturk0167 you really bring the best out in folks.:lol:
 
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The last 2 weeks has been a fiasco, it's way too easy to drop SR now and you end up with giblets swerving and crashing everywhere and it just keeps dropping. It should be way harder to get to SRS and harder to drop out of it.
Man I could't agree more. Twice within the last couple of rounds of the daily's I was less than 300 pts from A+ DR. 1st time was at FUJI with group c and just ran into that one room where i got spun lap turn 1 and the rest of the race was a horror show and reset. Then last week on dragon trail same story got to within a few hundred of A+ 1 bad race reset.

Hi horrible creatures XD

I solved my problem and it was not a bug. Was my controller
So now is open and ready to clean it inside

I hope it works

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It works!!

But I made a mistake at pits:

Choose the same tires again :(
I was in that race saw you go in again and what the ????
 
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If I were worried about gaining ranking points, anytime I dropped below 90 I wouldn’t race hard until getting points back.
If I wanted a third account to A plus I’d dedicate myself to FIA and only daily from an excellent q on my best tracks, that’s what people do in NA to rank up, they spend time on q then camp on that race...
To get A plus you can’t have A players with better q time, and you can’t make mistakes.
My second acct to A plus I just camped out in a c race at gr3 Interlagos,
I quald up in meta (atenza maybe?). then ran power fr...It took about 8-9 races. There was tire wear so it was just grinding them out finishing top five everytime.
FIA would be a safer strategy than dailies overall but there’s less races...
Again, if you’re getting reset in one race, you are doing something very very wrong, very wrong. You lack control. Sometimes you gotta cut your losses, finish the race safely, and go again.
C at Fuji or gr2 at Spa...Come on man, those are ALT dailies, imo for A plus...
Certain combos you have to accept are basically like buying a lottery card, it’s got nothing to do with the pen system, on NA it’s players who race cars they are not in control of.
Enter at your own risk lol

Edit A race is awesome, that is all.
 
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2k from A+ and PD decided to award me a reset instead, what a ******** this game is now, if you get bumped once in race C you will still end up with red SR no matter what,
 
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2k from A+ and PD decided to award me a reset instead, what a ******** this game is now, if you get bumped once in race C you will still end up with red SR no matter what,

Would you mind sharing the replay, maybe even just in game? I just gotta see it, don’t understand...
You are pretty darn fast judging by your St Croix last week...
I will jump on board with hassling PD if I could see it...
I’ve had races with 10-12 seconds of pens and multiple sr downs from A 99, and I wasn’t D E afterward...Just curious...

Edit If Arace were a good combo like this more often I would choose it much more.
 
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Would you mind sharing the replay, maybe even just in game? I just gotta see it, don’t understand...
You are pretty darn fast judging by your St Croix last week...
I will jump on board with hassling PD if I could see it...
I’ve had races with 10-12 seconds of pens and multiple sr downs from A 99, and I wasn’t D E afterward...Just curious...

Edit If Arace were a good combo like this more often I would choose it much more.
well so far from my experience in race c if you get 2 just 2 sr downs no time penalty that is red SR at the end of the race not a reset. One race i had 2 SR downs one of which was for scrapping the wall entering the pits for gods sake ( lightly scraping). Now if you have a couple SR downs 1 or 2 time penalty
for some contact you will get reset me and somebody else commented earlier how easy it is right now to get reset. The racing is great for the most part on SPA if you can survive the start and be up front but mid pack on back is a Horror show the only way at that point not to get any penalty IMO is just let everyone go past and have a Sunday drive
 
The last 2 weeks has been a fiasco, it's way too easy to drop SR now and you end up with giblets swerving and crashing everywhere and it just keeps dropping. It should be way harder to get to SRS and harder to drop out of it.
Very easy.

Two race Cs today, finished with a white SR, and a blue SR - SR down by 4 points?
 
well so far from my experience in race c if you get 2 just 2 sr downs no time penalty that is red SR at the end of the race not a reset. One race i had 2 SR downs one of which was for scrapping the wall entering the pits for gods sake ( lightly scraping). Now if you have a couple SR downs 1 or 2 time penalty
for some contact you will get reset me and somebody else commented earlier how easy it is right now to get reset. The racing is great for the most part on SPA if you can survive the start and be up front but mid pack on back is a Horror show the only way at that point not to get any penalty IMO is just let everyone go past and have a Sunday drive

It’s been that way for quite a while, St Croix last week etc.
I think there’s a disconnect sometimes between people racing who treat it as more sim, and people who door bang and bump, and the developers trying to maintain standards in S 99 lobbies.
I personally like it, but I see a lot of folks that don’t.
For me, in cockpit view, it’s a different perspective, when someone comes flyin in and hits, it’s like they are physically hitting me-I feel it in the wheel, the sound etc. It’s very disruptive, and while I have cultivated the skills to weaponize cars, it’s not really fun that way for me.
I think many players, being removed from that, don’t relate what it would be like if it were real. I know it’s just a game, but it has to relate to reality to be interesting.
Upsetting my car by hitting me in a high speed turn in reality should be a pen, or something.
I agree they don’t have it right, but better strict than not imo, right now 99 is pretty good, better than it’s been for a long time.
Plus at some point, if you like to race aggressive etc, why bother with worrying, for that matter why worry about it at all?
I think the reason is people have more fun racing better drivers.
With the current system running aids and line and knowing how to defend properly is critical.
On NA, at d to b there’s no players that can do this, if they did they would be mid A minimum.
On NA you have in a typical gr3 race for example like at Bathurst or Interlagos or Catalunya, tracks that penalize sliding, most players I see are running no aids can’t complete two clean laps in a row on the racing line, most don’t know where it even is. I can tell you it’s easy to move through fields of these guys as long as their spinning off doesn’t hit you, it’s easy because if you take the racing line even in a pack most cars aren’t on that line
Just saying, sr is in your control but only if you treat the race as if you were in the real car......
 
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It’s been that way for quite a while, St Croix last week etc.
I think there’s a disconnect sometimes between people racing who treat it as more sim, and people who door bang and bump, and the developers trying to maintain standards in S 99 lobbies.
I personally like it, but I see a lot of folks that don’t.
For me, in cockpit view, it’s a different perspective, when someone comes flyin in and hits, it’s like they are physically hitting me-I feel it in the wheel, the sound etc. It’s very disruptive, and while I have cultivated the skills to weaponize cars, it’s not really fun that way for me.
I think many players, being removed from that, don’t relate what it would be like if it were real. I know it’s just a game, but it has to relate to reality to be interesting.
Upsetting my car by hitting me in a high speed turn in reality should be a pen, or something.
I agree they don’t have it right, but better strict than not imo, right now 99 is pretty good, better than it’s been for a long time.
Plus at some point, if you like to race aggressive etc, why bother with worrying, for that matter why worry about it at all?
I think the reason is people have more fun racing better drivers.
With the current system running aids and line and knowing how to defend properly is critical.
On NA, at d to b there’s no players that can do this, if they did they would be mid A minimum...
I think we are on the same page there needs to be rules and penalty but an SR down for scraping the pit wall is nuts to me I was the only one going so didit hit any one . Its just very frustrating at times to try and pass someone clean and they make an abrupt move and usually penalty for you or me in this case
 
I think we are on the same page there needs to be rules and penalty but an SR down for scraping the pit wall is nuts to me I was the only one going so didit hit any one . Its just very frustrating at times to try and pass someone clean and they make an abrupt move and usually penalty for you or me in this case

100 percent. It’s VERY frustrating getting stuck near incompetent players.
The ONLY solution I have found is ALWAYS have at least one race each week you DO NOT qualify on.
Sr drops below 90, enter that one, stay back don’t race anyone. Stay fifty yards from all cars, stay on track pickup sr. Repeat until sr is above 90, then it’s ok to race again.
On NA if you even think of racing below S you are not going to be happy.
To me everything below A is for blowing off steam, smashing people, practicing dirty driving, testing pen system etc etc, because it’s not a case on NA where you can race.
Alternatively if you are top one percent on qual, if you get dropped a bit you will be given a match where you are pole and no times are close. It’s pressure time because if you screw that up the system smacks you down hard.
If you can wire to wire 3-4 then you’ll get the 90 plus sr back.
That’s been my experience

Edit if others start behind you on the recovery mode you need to let them by pause, duck into pits to hide immediately etc.
You let them behind you they’ll usually ruin what you want...CRB

Sometimes the system puts you in time out.
If you try to fight your way out it won’t work.
 
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100 percent. It’s VERY frustrating getting stuck near incompetent players.
The ONLY solution I have found is ALWAYS have at least one race each week you DO NOT qualify on.
Sr drops below 90, enter that one, stay back don’t race anyone. Stay fifty yards from all cars, stay on track pickup sr. Repeat until sr is above 90, then it’s ok to race again.
On NA if you even think of racing below S you are not going to be happy.
To me everything below A is for blowing off steam, smashing people, practicing dirty driving, testing pen system etc etc, because it’s not a case on NA where you can race.
Alternatively if you are top one percent on qual, if you get dropped a bit you will be given a match where you are pole and no times are close. It’s pressure time because if you screw that up the system smacks you down hard.
If you can wire to wire 3-4 then you’ll get the 90 plus sr back.
That’s been my experience

Edit if others start behind you on the recovery mode you need to let them by pause, duck into pits to hide immediately etc.
You let them behind you they’ll usually ruin what you want...CRB

Sometimes the system puts you in time out.
If you try to fight your way out it won’t work.
very interesting take will defiantly keep that strategy in mind because that's what I have been trying to do is fight my way out and it just seem like for every step forward I take 2 or 3 back. I have 3 accts at A+ this one I am working on now i was there but lost it now trying to get back.
 
My final thought for the day is this:
Learning to defend properly is just as much about preserving your sr as it is racecraft in general or holding position.
In proper defense if something doesn’t feel right such as guy behind is a maniac OR guy behind is too fast for you, if you are doing it right, EARLY car positioning to inside-CLEARLY SHOWING YOUR INTENTION , you can safely choose to relinquish, or hold position safely in most cases.
As I said before the only way others can affect you badly is riding your bumper not moving over to the racing line to challenge.
If they do that just brake really early 90 percent of the time even when they hit you you won’t get a dreaded down arrow.
Of course, doing this properly requires awareness, but if you do it right you can keep sr, NOT be a blocker because you can let faster cars by safely. MAKE YOUR ONE MOVE AND STAY PUT.
At d to b on NA no one knows these things its chaos quite often.
To me it’s nothing malicious it’s just they simply don’t know what pro racers do...
In this game if you are not absolutely sure the guy behind won’t dive if he’s close into a corner you better cover it off.
 
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