"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

I guess I should have added, I use bumper cam, so don’t ever see my car, so the car that’s behind the camera makes no matter to me, I have no brand loyalty or favourite car to use for the most part, I just take whatever works for the current race/Q session. 👍

 

[Jwptexas]

Race A is typically a one make race so irrelevant really. Race B I drive the car I enjoy the most and if my best isn't good enough I just sit the week out same applies for Race C, I could qualify in the META but I'd usually just screw up somebody's race not being able to keep pace during the actual race in my usual rides. I've got some brand loyalty so I'm not always good at every track/car combo but I can live with that.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I qualify in the fastest then race in the slowest/whichever I enjoy driving to unintentionally annoy whoever is behind me.

It's unbelievable that someone can get a win when they do that, but I get a penalty for a slight bumper tap.

It's unbelievable. Side-swiping, PIT maneuvers, push passing at the side of a car and forcing it wide or off the track will often not trigger penalties. A light rear tap however and you're the dirtiest of drivers according to the system's SR scoring. I said before in the penalty thread, it's contradictory and nonsense. There's a precedence and expectation of people racing clean from the start but that was never going to work well with online and difficult to trust random opponents.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Spa race C is the worst racing I have experienced in this game. I don't know what it is but it is horrible start to finish. Constantly hit no matter how safe i tryt o be, no one even tries to pass clean, i don't get what has happened but it a fiasco.

 

[Groundfish]

Spa race C is the worst racing I have experienced in this game. I don't know what it is but it is horrible start to finish. Constantly hit no matter how safe i tryt o be, no one even tries to pass clean, i don't get what has happened but it a fiasco.

Hence my strategy of not bothering.
Race A has been fun. Gr2 is too much car.
I highly reccomend race A qual or no qual this week. It’s fun.
I have yet to be victimized by the pen system after maybe 12-15 99 room entries, but I am not being crazy aggressive, just having fun enjoying racing the other players without viewing them as enemy combatants in a war.

 

[ZiggyS80]

Spa race C is the worst racing I have experienced in this game. I don't know what it is but it is horrible start to finish. Constantly hit no matter how safe i tryt o be, no one even tries to pass clean, i don't get what has happened but it a fiasco.

Gr2 is too much car.

I think this explains most of it. As I've gone back through replays of some of the more frustrating races at Spa this week, its primarily a lack of control and poor decisions. Lifting at Eau Rouge instead of staying flat. Being too aggressive on the throttle through Les Combes, turn11 or going into Campus. Going wide at Bruxelles and Pouhon. Once you've lost it, the Gr. 2 cars spin like crazy.

There have definitely been dirty drivers out there, too. They tend to reveal themselves on the Kemmel straight and at the bus stop chicane and I've learned to just let them go. Its hardest at the chicane because you're a sitting duck through most of it.

The top 5 battles I've been in have all been clean, respectful racing and that has been a blast. So this is really the only strategy that has worked for me: pray I make it through La Source, book it like crazy through Eau Rouge and Radillon, identify the dirty drivers on Kemmel, don't make any mistakes on lap 1, and you'll get a gap built from the madness. Easier said than done, but otherwise if you find yourself in the back or mid-pack be ready for some SR downs.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I don't disagree with all of that but a lot of guys just cannot seem to help themselves and try to create a gap that is not there. As soon as they catch you they try to pass or they fight like mad when i JUST GOT OUT OF THE PITS. Dude, if you are yet to pit, and i just did, and i am on fresh tyres, WTF are you doing???? You're not racing me, i've beaten you already.

 

[Groundfish]

I think this explains most of it. As I've gone back through replays of some of the more frustrating races at Spa this week, its primarily a lack of control and poor decisions. Lifting at Eau Rouge instead of staying flat. Being too aggressive on the throttle through Les Combes, turn11 or going into Campus. Going wide at Bruxelles and Pouhon. Once you've lost it, the Gr. 2 cars spin like crazy.

There have definitely been dirty drivers out there, too. They tend to reveal themselves on the Kemmel straight and at the bus stop chicane and I've learned to just let them go. Its hardest at the chicane because you're a sitting duck through most of it.

The top 5 battles I've been in have all been clean, respectful racing and that has been a blast. So this is really the only strategy that has worked for me: pray I make it through La Source, book it like crazy through Eau Rouge and Radillon, identify the dirty drivers on Kemmel, don't make any mistakes on lap 1, and you'll get a gap built from the madness. Easier said than done, but otherwise if you find yourself in the back or mid-pack be ready for some SR downs.

Great points!
Watch replays 99-100 percent of people spinning, running wide NO TCS.

 

[ZiggyS80]

I don't disagree with all of that but a lot of guys just cannot seem to help themselves and try to create a gap that is not there. As soon as they catch you they try to pass or they fight like mad when i JUST GOT OUT OF THE PITS. Dude, if you are yet to pit, and i just did, and i am on fresh tyres, WTF are you doing???? You're not racing me, i've beaten you already.

Oh, yeah. I had one like that, too. That driver decided at some point he was gonna fight to the end and not pit. I just coasted behind him. I imagine he felt really good about himself until that 60 second penalty hit.

 

[Groundfish]

I think lower dr high sr is the way to go for pick up and play fun.
@sturk0167 you can always get to the front from the back then wait and let them all by at the finish to prevent excessive dr gains lol, that’s what I’m doing now. You were right lower dr high sr isn’t crazy aggressive, it’s approachable respectful and fun, generally.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

From my experience race C is a lot worse in American lobbies than European for SR drops. The pace is at least a second a lap slower at DR B but the main difference is competence. So many people drop it on their own and give the car behind nowhere to go, a lot fail at even starting the races too. In Europe people tend to drive within their limits so most of the 'silly' contact is cut out, more often than not you can get a really good race.

 

[O604]

From my experience race C is a lot worse in American lobbies than European for SR drops. The pace is at least a second a lap slower at DR B but the main difference is competence. So many people drop it on their own and give the car behind nowhere to go, a lot fail at even starting the races too. In Europe people tend to drive within their limits so most of the 'silly' contact is cut out, more often than not you can get a really good race.

I don't find this surprising at all.

Best selling game in Europe, FIFA. Best selling game in Japan, Animal Crossing. North America, GTA.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I don't find this surprising at all.

Best selling game in Europe, FIFA. Best selling game in Japan, Animal Crossing. North America, GTA.

To be fair it's a pretty solid racing game Mad how it is still selling after so many years.

 

[NoStopN]

do you guys typically race in the same car that you set your qualifying time with?

I'll give you another example about some people's choices about driving a different car in race than what they qualified in. A few months back, there was a race B at Big Willow for Gr. 3 cars. I'm pretty confident in my knowledge of the track, but none of my preferred cars could come close to what everybody else was qualifying in. So, I hopped into that same car (Peugeot VGT Gr. 3), got used to some of its quirks, & set a time that was so good that I'll never qualify as close to @Mistah_MCA again.

@GOTMAXPOWER, people in America are used to NASCAR. Rubbin's racin'.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Lifting at Eau Rouge instead of staying flat

This is another part of the problem. Unless you know the guy in front you can't anticipate his moves. So don't drive so close to him. Stay at .6-.7 behind, you still get the slip and it's easier to pass from a little distance. When you hang on someone's bumber you can't act, only react.
When someone spins and spins back to hit you or run off track and rejoin with no consideration we can say we where without fault for the SR down. But if we run up the rear of someone who lifts in Eau Rouge we where too close. He might be a less experienced racer..

 

[sturk0167]

I think lower dr high sr is the way to go for pick up and play fun.
@sturk0167 you can always get to the front from the back then wait and let them all by at the finish to prevent excessive dr gains lol, that’s what I’m doing now. You were right lower dr high sr isn’t crazy aggressive, it’s approachable respectful and fun, generally.

After Tuesday, I was thinking I would have to qualify to raise my SR. I didn't do it, and yesterday entered with a more patient mindset. I went from 31 to 97 by just doing Willow races. I just didn't try for anything risky, and did a lot of extra braking when I was following someone.
My observation has been that usually only a couple cars will go the whole race without crashing and/or getting a penalty.
5 laps feels like the perfect race length.
I believe I ended up with 3 golds and 8 or 9 silvers.

 

[JayRS200]

Really like your YouTube videos. Great collection of simple things. Mostly fails?

After Tuesday, I was thinking I would have to qualify to raise my SR. I didn't do it, and yesterday entered with a more patient mindset. I went from 31 to 97 by just doing Willow races. I just didn't try for anything risky, and did a lot of extra braking when I was following someone.
My observation has been that usually only a couple cars will go the whole race without crashing and/or getting a penalty.
5 laps feels like the perfect race length.
I believe I ended up with 3 golds and 8 or 9 silvers.

 

[sturk0167]

Really like your YouTube videos. Great collection of simple things. Mostly fails?

Yeah. Mostly fails.
Nobody cares about watching other people win. The fails are a lot more entertaining.

 

[Groundfish]

5 laps feels like the perfect race length.
I believe I ended up with 3 golds and 8 or 9 silvers.

Race length is PERFECT enough time to catch-up and not too long to where if you screwup you are stuck in there lapping alone too long.

 

[kungtotte_]

This is another part of the problem. Unless you know the guy in front you can't anticipate his moves. So don't drive so close to him. Stay at .6-.7 behind, you still get the slip and it's easier to pass from a little distance. When you hang on someone's bumber you can't act, only react.
When someone spins and spins back to hit you or run off track and rejoin with no consideration we can say we where without fault for the SR down. But if we run up the rear of someone who lifts in Eau Rouge we where too close. He might be a less experienced racer..

You never know why they're lifting either. Maybe their car got unsettled going over a kerb, or they jerked the wheel too hard, or they feel their line is off and they risk either jumping the right-hand kerb or running wide at Raidillon collecting a cut penalty.

There's several valid reasons to lift there, so definitely give yourself breathing room when following another car!

 

[Tidgney]

Streaming some of daily race c !

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

This is another part of the problem. Unless you know the guy in front you can't anticipate his moves. So don't drive so close to him. Stay at .6-.7 behind, you still get the slip and it's easier to pass from a little distance. When you hang on someone's bumber you can't act, only react.
When someone spins and spins back to hit you or run off track and rejoin with no consideration we can say we where without fault for the SR down. But if we run up the rear of someone who lifts in Eau Rouge we where too close. He might be a less experienced racer..

You can't leave anybody space at the start of the race because you will get ran over from behind and the car in front always gets the SR drop.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

You can't leave anybody space at the start of the race because you will get ran over from behind and the car in front always gets the SR drop.

That's true. In this case you are forced to be close

 

[williams_v_r]

I would wish a daily with Shelby Cobra to see people skills with that little monster

 

[Redneckchef]

Going to back up @sturk0167 and @Groundfish on race A being pretty good this week. Had 2 nights where I kept getting in with the same crews each lobby. After a race where we felt each other put and realized we were all going to race clean and push for fun racing it turned out a blast. Short clips from the couple of replays I saved. The one where the guy goes up the inside and pushes the other wide, he slowed down to let the guy back by and raced him down for a clean pass later. Good fun there.👍

The moves you can try when you both trust each other.

 

[sturk0167]

Going to back up @sturk0167 and @Groundfish on race A being pretty good this week. Had 2 nights where I kept getting in with the same crews each lobby. After a race where we felt each other put and realized we were all going to race clean and push for fun racing it turned out a blast. Short clips from the couple of replays I saved. The one where the guy goes up the inside and pushes the other wide, he slowed down to let the guy back by and raced him down for a clean pass later. Good fun there.👍

The moves you can try when you both trust each other.

Agreed. I know these two guys, otherwise I would've lifted off the throttle so I could live to see another turn.

 

[Groundfish]

I’m goin in to do some Cruisin California at A race...

 

[D_Dragline]

Spa race C is the worst racing I have experienced in this game. I don't know what it is but it is horrible start to finish. Constantly hit no matter how safe i tryt o be, no one even tries to pass clean, i don't get what has happened but it a fiasco.

Unfortunately my fears from Monday have been realised. I tried Spa one more time last night after rebuilding my SR at Big Willow across the last few days. It is still an absolute disaster for all the same reasons. I thankfully retained my 99 SR but at the expense of coming second last after being murdered at La Source and then giving every divebombing, weaving, brake-checking idiot a wide berth but still getting punted at the bus stop and repeatedly pushed off at Les Combes. I won't be driving this combo again. It is obviously the honeypot race this week.

 

[Groundfish]

A race is golden, dirty player got demoted to c sr!!!!
I see everything from last.
I’m gonna join one Spa lmao. I don’t expect anything good but after a few libations anything goes!!
A race is epic but Imiss seeing my friends tonight every time!!!!
I guess they have hot dates!
If you see me understand I am typing instead of warming up for the race lol.
Watch out for a Lexus missing braking points towards the end there’s that chicane...I just don’t have any idea about braking points here oh well I doubt people in NA brake much in gr2 anyhow...
I do think as a whole people from across the pond have a much better understanding of racing and appreciation of Motorsport, even if they don’t have the guts for oval racing lmao
Jkjkjkjk

 

[charmcharmchu]

Has been trying to do Race C and exit slow corners with 1st gear, went much faster last night.
Best lap in race went from mid-8s to now mid-7s. Will continue to try to master the slippery 1st gear exits, once you get it right it gains so much time!