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Gr4 cars are horribly dull to drive but I've done a few race B's this week and the racing is great. It's proper full contact touring car racing, nobody gets hurt too bad and the penalty system doesn't get overly involved. I might have to get the Jag out for the Nurburgring next week too.
 
So, do people really drive worse at SR A-S than at D or . . . ?

Yes that really is the question. As to your points they are very valid and just today I messaged a guy trying to help him because although he was fast enough for the people he was racing his braking points and lines were so bad on many of the corners it was nearly impossible to miss him. I also know I do weird things too. Some corners I brake fairly early because it helps my exit speed, but someone behind might think I'm being a pratt. So yes it's a really complicated issue, but sometimes it just feels like the whole field think it's bumper cars.
 
Did a race B last night, and went into T1 side by side with a German driving the TT. This was a nice change of pace for me as my SR was recently tanked. I'd gotten a run on him out of the final hairpin and I had barely gotten a nose in front as we went into T1 with myself on the inside. He managed to out brake me (I was in the Viper, the brakes on those TT's are class) which I expected. Side by side cleanly still through the first part of the chicane, I gave him the space on the inside for the following corner, which he barely tapped me. I didn't even hear the contact, nor did it affect either of us. I was looking forward to this final lap, but the GT gods did not look down upon this poor lad mercifully. He was slammed with a 3 second penalty. I couldn't believe it. I apologised after the race, though really it was neither of our faults, but it would have been wild final lap had the penalty system not decided to hand out a random penalty.
 
After the race I call him out and I get the following reply. “You blocked my overtake”. Given the only times he was near me were the two above mentioned incidents, utterly mystifying.

I noticed a lot of this on B race. A common one I get from the top people is WOW.
It goes like this for me typically:
Racer in top 30 or 50 on q tangled up with another driver, or gets a penalty, or hits the outside wall at COD. I pass. Immediately they go into full desperation get on your bumper and swerve around recklessly. I calmly cover my inside, never disrupting their run on a straight. Sometimes they get by, sometimes not.
In general when they can’t figure out how to get by then they start with the WOW and other sarcastic comments. I light em up for that crap. It’s like they are saying: “How dare you race me? Pleb.”
Yes, you twerp. I am racing you, we are in a race.
Pisses me off. It ESPECIALLY pisses me off when they get stupid about going off track trying to get the inside I have covered. I’ve taken some pens after that happens for ramming lol.

Of Note: I used to believe the concept racers are worst at higher levels but after watching many hours of replays and seeing how I am driving around the more qualified drivers I have determined I got punted, bumped, and bumped others because I was not up to the standard of the lobby. Most of the time it seems I braked incorrectly, couldn't maintain my turn in a curve, or just lost situational awareness and turned into the guy making a legitimate racing pass.

This is so insightful of you and true. I absolutely found the same thing in my own driving.
It’s one reason sometimes I don’t go all in on a try hard qual time unless I KNOW I have the pace.
As a B in with the top lobbies sometimes I was outclassed in race after spending a lot of time getting a good q time.
It can be very intimidating. For me as a C S, I remember getting to B the first time and just feeling like well Ithats just too much for me. Took me a looooong time getting to and through B rank initially.

Anyways I digress. It happens so much now I’m on the other end, some places worse than others but it’s ESPESCIALLY TOUGH at Seaside. Nine times outta ten if there’s a B or two like say at Seaside this week mixed in with the A plus A near the front, there will often be troubles and incidents. It’s a difference pace wise but also racecraft wise.
ITS a very very astute observation and I’ve noticed the same thing within my own driving.
Sometimes I tank on q time a little if it’s a track I really like but I don’t feel like getting into real race hard mode. It’s fun to race more mellow too. Sometimes it’s fun to go on a Sunday drive.
 
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In my view, there are two types of racers. Racers who want to win or the whole race is a failure of time, or racers who enjoy battling for even 10th places when its a clean fun fight.

I used to chase the 91 wins trophy at one point and my races were desperate... now I've learned to backoff and think a couple corners ahead and just have fun where ever I land.

Lower level lobbies cant race side by side most of the time because they always go full throttle and push people out on corners.. "you have to leave DA space!".

Most of the time people dont use radar or lack awareness that someone is beside them.

Disclaimer: I am DR B driver, too slow for A and too fast for C. Daily Race A is my bread and butter.
 
There’s a new “tactic” for defending the right hander at the bottom of the hill at Seaside. So I’m behind...They go defensive taking the inside. Fine. I take the outside getting into the braking meter marker area.
Now the new “technique”. the guys ahead figured out they can block both inside AND outside by braking in a line diagonally from in to outback towards the outside.
THIS IS DIRTY. You cannot brake diagonally across all lines in the braking zone as defense.
Twice I had to swerve inside but ran deep and hit the car in front of me doing that last race.
If you defend inside proper and return back towards the racing line to brake you gotta leave a cars width for the other car or there WILL be a crash, because the guy chasing has nowhere to go.
This situation just happened to me twice in one race leaving me at 86 SR.
Trying to defend all lines by braking diagonally from inside to outside across the whole braking zone is DIRTY.
Man 86...I’m gonna try to get a crb in there in the low room but could be a reset day potentially. I’m not looking towards any upcoming FIA so here we go. Mustang at low sr....
 
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Well I nearly had a great race. Race C started 14th and was in 8th with 2 guys close 6th was about same as me and 7th was faster. Lap 9 7th makes an error and then at the last corner 6th, he cut the corner too much and spun in the barrier, so I'm in 6th great....OH FFS 4 secs, I mean come on I shouldn't have anything as the guy had stopped in the barrier, but 4 secs is just ridiculous. You guessed it I finished 8th when it would have been 6th or possible 7th, the guy was better than me, but I had about 1.5 secs so I would have had to make a mistake.
 
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There’s a new “tactic” for defending the right hander at the bottom of the hill at Seaside. So I’m behind...They go defensive taking the inside. Fine. I take the outside getting into the braking meter marker area.
Now the new “technique”. the guys ahead figured out they can block both inside AND outside by braking in a line diagonally from in to outback towards the outside.
THIS IS DIRTY. You cannot brake diagonally across all lines in the braking zone as defense.
Twice I had to swerve inside but ran deep and hit the car in front of me doing that last race.
If you defend inside proper and return back towards the racing line to brake you gotta leave a cars width for the other car or there WILL be a crash, because the guy chasing has nowhere to go.
This situation just happened to me twice in one race leaving me at 86 SR.
Trying to defend all lines by braking diagonally from inside to outside across the whole braking zone is DIRTY.
Man 86...I’m gonna try to get a crb in there in the low room but could be a reset day potentially. I’m not looking towards any upcoming FIA so here we go. Mustang at low sr....


I had to read that post twice to properly understand it.

The norm is to brake in a straight line (trailbraking aside) and pick inside or outside. Got it.

On first read, I thought the diagonal was (1) OUT -> IN. But NO, it is (2) IN -> OUT. Bizarre, and I agree it is dirty as it represents a sudden or unpredictable move in the braking zone.

What about (1) - the OUT -> IN case ? Is that dirty? It think it is odd but not dirty. It is the most efficient form or progression of trailbraking starting from the outside and extending all the way to the apex. I am good with that case.
 
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I think as long as you’re ahead and NOT specifically doing that to cut off a guy who has your inside no problem.
There’s a specific fast guy who did that he came up on my outside and turned in early half nose in front of me cutting me off at limit on braking at that bottom hill right.
He still keeps calling me dirty but you can’t turn in like that and expect the inside car to just stop by magic lol.
Plus he was already frustrated by me defending inside and tried to stuff me but it backfired so now he hates me lmao.
I do that a lot (out to in) but from mid track and I’m aimed at it way early the car behind is free to take racing line. A lot of tight turns I’d rather just do that taking minimum distance. It’s just easier to me to go tight inside on certain turns and give up maybe a tenth here and there. Personal thing.
The problem would be doing that late when someone is very close...I try to kinda aim my car that way before braking and only when there’s sufficient gap to car behind.
In to out is dirty.
Even I think FIA specifies you can’t block all lines diagonally in braking zones because that WILL be a crash, if cars are at or close to limit.
Lotta times in slower races people are everywhere because they aren’t close to limit at all.
Jmo
 
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Really strange race 8 quit at start and at the end 3 players finished but names, cars and nationality aren't showing Still came 4th behind an A and 2 Bs so not complaining and had a good race with another B who although faster than me seemed to have a problem keeping it on the track.
 
Regarding tomorrow's N400 race at Willow Springs:
The only previous N400 race I can recall at Big Willow was with the Challenger.
That was long ago, when daily races were truly daily (3 new combos every day).
Here's an epic race photo from my experience in that race.

I would be thrilled to have the same combo for the next week, but it doesn't say One-Make, and it says settings have been adjusted.
Therefore, it could be tuned-up N300s, or tuned-down N500s. Pretty hard to predict this one. :confused:
 
Regarding tomorrow's N400 race at Willow Springs:
The only previous N400 race I can recall at Big Willow was with the Challenger.
That was long ago, when daily races were truly daily (3 new combos every day).
Here's an epic race photo from my experience in that race.

I would be thrilled to have the same combo for the next week, but it doesn't say One-Make, and it says settings have been adjusted.
Therefore, it could be tuned-up N300s, or tuned-down N500s. Pretty hard to predict this one. :confused:
Looks like a couple of Challengers went on a safari there.
 
Veyron did better than I thought it would. It struggles on the esses as I kneww it would, but it does feel nimble with the steering. I don't like the way the revs rise. it's as though the power stutters up the rev range. That's what the rev bar looks like anyway. Don't know how it would go at the N24.

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3 wins this week but a horrid finish on DTS
Sitting in 2nd and some idiot rams me on last lap at the first corner, right into the wall. I drop to 9th and he gets a one second penalty 👎
Have they made the penalties more lenient - I would expect 4s for that.

anyway get the bratwurst and weissbier ready everyone it's green hell later!
 
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Managed a nice top 50 QT in Alsace this week, Did about 6 or 7races,, managed to Win them all ,got humbled twice in MANU., thats a week for me. now i cant wait to win in the green hell, given how gr4 cars are easy to drive, i guess i will take all of them out for a spin one by one , just got to find some nice liveries for now,,and i think its safe to say this feels like the best combo We’ve ever came across this year , both events are 👍

I'll be in my alt for sure. T1 N24, T1 Monza and push and shove Grid Start in Race A. Yeah, knuckleheads can have it with that account.
Is it Monza? I thought it was RBR
 
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Thought I'd do a Q for N24H, not a terrible lap till I binned it at the end of the straight so 10mins wasted as it doesn't count. So I decided to just run the race. Bad idea as there are very few passing places you get stuck behind slower cars, who are fighting so going even slower:banghead:. Going to try and get a decent Q then try again.
 
N24 at night. What a rush. Qualified poorly and started as p7 with just 9 setting a Q. P1's Q was 50 seconds ahead of me.
I was counting on race pace....
It's an easy no-stop sprint so your number one opponent is the Green Hell. And a guy in a Cayman that thinks leaning on me to make the corners still on the GP track is the way forward. Pass him at the hairpin and move ahead.
Going round the last corner before Flugplatz, wife calls me from the bedroom so have to pause to Schwedenkreuz.
Loose contact with p8, almost 7 seconds behind as I go back to racing.
Ahead is TT's, a WRX, a Mégane, a Scirocco and a GT-R. I'm in my Mustang to test the waters.
Coming towards lap 2 I am in p6 only but closing in on a WRX taking a penalty on the GP lap. Him and another car starts battling coming up to Fucshröre and I go into holding position behind them all the way to the top of the back straight where the other car runs wide and me and the WRX are passing.
I follow him all the way to the straight, no need to try a dangerous pass,and my higher top speed allows me to slip by and pass into p4 under the bridge. Crossing the finish line 4 seconds ahead.
Good clean race with no penalties for me.
Going back with the Viper later.
 
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Veyron did better than I thought it would. It struggles on the esses as I kneww it would, but it does feel nimble with the steering. I don't like the way the revs rise. it's as though the power stutters up the rev range. That's what the rev bar looks like anyway. Don't know how it would go at the N24.

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The @GOTMAXPOWER livery approach, I see.
 
Well done all 3
A was surprising clean, not just me it looked like people were playing f......too scared that they end up in another state. Not the best race ever, but not a bad place to spend some time.
B I just don't like, I find the track boring. So don't think it's for me.
C I like the track and the idea of racing there is great, but you really can't race. Well not without losing loads of SR. Then you have the fact it's just TTs and Vipers. Just tried again and race totally ruined by some idiot trying too hard, spins out and gives me 4 secs, which is really what 10 secs here. I put me behind slower cars one of which punted me and gave me another 3 secs.

Think I might do As this week, my ratings are going to be tanked anyway so just do the most fun one.
 
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