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zzz_pt
Decided to enter a race in Monza. Started from pole and won but man it's stressfull! Everything is so fast and a small mistake will send you to the back of the pack.

Props to everyone behind me who broke for the first corner without sending people off track.

Not going to race there again. I don't have problems with being in first during the race but it was my first Gr.1 race in GTS. Crazy fast! I feel I'm too old for this speeds. :lol:
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Your First??? I think I saw your name n the top 6 times from yesterday´s Gr.1 race at Nurb... :).. or then the guy (portuguese as you and me) had a very almost like PSN ID to yours...
 
Mirror_man
Your First??? I think I saw your name n the top 6 times from yesterday´s Gr.1 race at Nurb... :).. or then the guy (portuguese as you and me) had a very almost like PSN ID to yours...
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Yeah was me on the top10. But I said first race. :) Not first qualifying. I didn't race yesterday at Nurb.
 
zzz_pt
Saying the penalties ate strict on Monza compared to real life and other sims is not complaining about someone else using the track limits as they're designed on a fictional track.

I'll happily race on Monza. I can still criticize it. And I don't need to point fingers to what other people do because that's irrelevant.

Nuance, get some. Also, avoid quote mining next time.
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Quote mining? Your lap was used as an example of someone who abused track limits (i didn't agree, you might have forgotten that but hey, you seem like a classic forum fighter, so it doesn't matter right?). I read your post as COMPLAINING about limited track limits "NOT LIKE REAL LIFE!!!".
But generous track limits are OK on fantasy tracks.. because Cherry Picking arguments? And that is pure ironic, the dude that defends no track limits is the same one who complains about tight track limits, because those limits are more wrong than the other ones..? Nah, the same exact principles are in effect here.

Let me Quote mine from a thread that is barely cold yet... (OHH NO HE IS A QUOTE MINER!!)

The lesson here is, learn the track limits and profit.
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kjeldsen
Quote mining? Your lap was used as an example of someone who abused track limits (i didn't agree, you might have forgotten that but hey, you seem like a classic forum fighter, so it doesn't matter right?). I read your post as COMPLAINING about limited track limits "NOT LIKE REAL LIFE!!!".
But generous track limits are OK on fantasy tracks.. because Cherry Picking arguments? And that is pure ironic, the dude that defends no track limits is the same one who complains about tight track limits, because those limits are more wrong than the other ones..? Nah, the same exact principles are in effect here.

Let me Quote mine from a thread that is barely cold yet... (OHH NO HE IS A QUOTE MINER!!)
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Since you like quotes:

Quote me saying the track limits at Maggiore are OK and quote me defending no track limits.

Also, I'm comparing the strict chicane and Ascari to real life (and other gt games / sims). Something you can't do with Maggiore.
 
I like Monza , there should be limits as in real life if you go off you need dug out , I remember racing with some gt3's a few years ago , on one lap I passed 4 that were in stranded around the track

It can be carnage in the game , so get clear and stay clear
 
zzz_pt
Saying the penalties ate strict on Monza compared to real life and other sims is not complaining about someone else using the track limits as they're designed on a fictional track.

I'll happily race on Monza. I can still criticize it. And I don't need to point fingers to what other people do because that's irrelevant.

Nuance, get some. Also, avoid quote mining next time.
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Not to be a kiss ass but anyone who watches a real race will see cars all over the track limits defined in GTS with zero penalties. Ascari in particular is harsh.
 
zzz_pt
Since you like quotes:

Quote me saying the track limits at Maggiore are OK and quote me defending no track limits.

Also, I'm comparing the strict chicane and Ascari to real life (and other gt games / sims). Something you can't do with Maggiore.
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Yes, you are cherry picking so that it fits your narrative... Track limits are ok when they are how you want them, they suck when they are not.. Which is ironic because the 800+ post thread was about the exact same topic :)
 
Monza was fun in DR/D SR/D. I started 9th, got punted to 12th on the 1st chicane. Drove around steady, and by lap 3 I was somehow 5th. Didn't last long though, was soon punted off and dropped to 9th but ended the race back in 5th. It was sheer carnage!

Going straight on at the 1st chicane should warrant a bigger penalty, or at least you should be put back on the track before the chicane, preferably on the inside of the track. Gaining a couple of seconds by straight lining a corner is wrong!
 
kjeldsen
Yes, you are cherry picking so that it fits your narrative... Track limits are ok when they are how you want them, they suck when they are not.. Which is ironic because the 800+ post thread was about the exact same topic :)
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I guess you completely missed the essence of the other thread. My opinion was not that track limits at Maggiore are OK. Rather that everyone is allowed to use the current track limits and that is not cheating or exploiting. Also, it's relevsnt imo that Maggiore is a fictiinal track and you can't make comparisons with any other game/reality.

I'm not complaining about Monza's limit's. I'm pointing out that they are too strict compared to real life, previous GTs and other sims. I just have to adop different lines and braking points.

I didn't say the track limits are OK at Maggiore. Either you quote me on that or retract it.
 
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zzz_pt
I guess you completely missed the essence of the other thread. My opinion was not that track limita at Maggiore are OK. Rather that everyone is allowed to use the current track limita and that is not cheating or exploiting. Also, it's relevsnt imo that Maggiore is a fictiinal track and you can't make comparisons with any other game/reality.

I'm not complaining about Monza's limit's. I'm pointing out that they are too strict compared to real life, previous GTs and other sims. I just have to adop different lines and braking points.

I didn't say the track limits are OK at Maggiore. Either you quote me on that or retract it.
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Or else?
 
Oh man... track limits again??? He’s complaining about the limits, not judging others about how they use those limits. That’s the difference! He’s not agreeing with the limits on Maggiore also, but as long as they are how they are... using them is the way to be competitive. This happens in real life too! F1 teams complain all the time, but they’ll still use technologies they don’t like. It’s a championship about who’s fastest... not an upper, better type of human being.
 
kjeldsen
Or else?
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The AUP you agreed to follow.

"You will not knowingly post any material that is false, misleading, or inaccurate."

If the member in question didn't say what you are claiming then you just broke it.

So please either directly quote it or withdraw it.
 
The track limits are fine on Monza, I fear the worst though with the meager penalties and how easy it is to burn them off. Not much point in tight track limits if you don't really enforce them. I'm expecting finish boards full of red dots again.
 
kjeldsen
Yes, you are cherry picking so that it fits your narrative... Track limits are ok when they are how you want them, they suck when they are not.. Which is ironic because the 800+ post thread was about the exact same topic :)
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Cross thread posting about other posters is borderline harassment. Stop it. Is he now not allowed to discuss anything without a bunch of people jumping in and gang-banging him about that stupid thread (which he did NOT start, merely defended himself)?
 
Scaff
The AUP you agreed to follow.

"You will not knowingly post any material that is false, misleading, or inaccurate."

If the member in question didn't say what you are claiming then you just broke it.

So please either directly quote it or withdraw it.
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Could you maybe re-read the posts and point me to where i do what he claims? He more or less put those words into my mouth, i did not write them.
Quote me saying the track limits at Maggiore are OK and quote me defending no track limits.
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I wrote this:
And that is pure ironic, the dude that defends no track limits is the same one who complains about tight track limits, because those limits are more wrong than the other ones..? Nah, the same exact principles are in effect here.
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Sure i can retract that i should have worded that differently with the same effect.

ZZZ never defended no track limits, he only defended using the track to its limits, i actually did the same.
 
kjeldsen
ZZZ never defended no track limits, he only defended using the track to his limits
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Wrong again.

I defended using the track to the game's limits. Not my own limits. That was the argument from other people.

Please move on.
 
GR1 @ Monza

Qualified 4th, 2nd and pole twice, all four races I get punted off at the chicane at the start, on two of these occasions I get a penalty but the pillock who hit me gets nothing!

Is there any way to cancel my qualifying time so I can start at the back and pick my way through the carnage. I don't remember GT5 or 6 being this bad, perhaps I'm remembering it through rose tinted glasses.
 
Entered the Peugeot race at Maggiore tonight, and found myself in a room (as a B/S) with, not just 3 S/S drivers, but 3 of them from the top 10......

How are we mere mortals meant to win and progress our ratings when matched like this! They were 5 seconds a lap faster than me.
 
bone_tone
Entered the Peugeot race at Maggiore tonight, and found myself in a room (as a B/S) with, not just 3 S/S drivers, but 3 of them from the top 10......

How are we mere mortals meant to win and progress our ratings when matched like this! They were 5 seconds a lap faster than me.
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You’re ratings progress faster if you race them. If you get 4th, a big share of the DR pool is yours.
 
Sven Jurgens
The track limits are fine on Monza, I fear the worst though with the meager penalties and how easy it is to burn them off. Not much point in tight track limits if you don't really enforce them. I'm expecting finish boards full of red dots again.
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On Monza it's really not that easy to burn off penalties, especially in Gr.1 where you'll get passed in no time (and probably punted) if you're slowing down in corners.
 
bone_tone
Entered the Peugeot race at Maggiore tonight, and found myself in a room (as a B/S) with, not just 3 S/S drivers, but 3 of them from the top 10......

How are we mere mortals meant to win and progress our ratings when matched like this! They were 5 seconds a lap faster than me.
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I guess not a lot of S/S drivers go to that race so the matchmaking puts them with whom is playing at that moment. I never race FF cars, especially slow ones, for example.

But as @Nando deBem said, you can get a lot of DR point in those races.
 
Insideous
GR1 @ Monza

Qualified 4th, 2nd and pole twice, all four races I get punted off at the chicane at the start, on two of these occasions I get a penalty but the pillock who hit me gets nothing!
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It seems any circuit with an extremely slow turn 1 after a high speed straight is really a recipe for possible carnage and punting for an online race.

I like the Monza circuit but knew that it was not going to be pretty online and have avoided it for that reason. I have driven the circuit offline.

SR ranking does not matter in this game as the system is not strict enough on dividing the ranks and forcing a person to earn the right to be in the higher rankings.

The system is to easy to game to artificially raise a racers ranking levels as well so overall the system is worthless.
 
VFOURMAX1
It seems any circuit with an extremely slow turn 1 after a high speed straight is really a recipe for possible carnage and punting for an online race.
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This is true, but even worse in the Gr.1 races because the 919 Hybrid's acceleration in low gears leaves most everyone in the dust and comes into turn 1 at a different speed level than the rest of the pack. On the two races I did on Monza, I passed 4-5 cars before I hit turn 1. It was like I was racing with Gr.4 cars.

On the opening lap of Interlagos, I've found I can control divebombers and general carnage a bit if I let off the throttle early going into turn 1 and move side to side. Basically act a bit like a safety car. I think most people don't intentionally try to smash everyone on turn 1, they're just underestimating their braking and speed going into the turn when there's a cluster of cars slowing each other down.
 
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