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Oof... maybe I shouldn't race for the rest of the day.

I usually qualify really well and race even better at BMB A. I couldn't get a very good qualifying lap down after 15 mins as I kept making stupid mistakes. I decided to do a race as that often helps me settle in with my lines and helps me become faster next time I qualify.

It was bad. I don't know what happened, but no matter what I did, I crashed. I kept going off track. I had a very hard time focusing and even when I did, the viper just felt horrible. Very unusual...
 
Mixed bag in Race C today. Some real retreads and also some real clean racers.

I was also the grateful recipient of a 10s penalty towards the end of one race after someone hit the wall, bounced off into me then back into the wall again. And thats only because i swerved, otherwise it'd have been a 10s rear end penalty. Damned if you do and damned if you dont sometimes.
 
@Mirror_man thank you for the info! I use G29 and not sure where to find its settings, I'm happy that it works kind of good, and was really curious if it worth the time to bother with the wheel settings by each and every car.

And from this occasion, let me thank to all forum members who provide here useful info, helpful race videos; it is helping a lot for us, who has just very short time to play, but can read here, so we can have a clue when we start the PS, what we will find there and how to deal with it. Shortens our learning curve. Thank you! :cheers:
 
RaceFace85
This was an awesome battle.

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A great race by you, and I don’t want to take anything away from that win but... I can’t help but notice just how stable your car is out of turns due to CSA, ill assume the other guy had it turned off due to his car twitching in all the places mine does on that track. I do think it’s an unfair advantage against drivers who choose not to use it.

Again, not to take anything away from your victory, and certainly not saying you wouldn’t have won without it, but it needs to be changed ASAP.
 
Second and final race for the night, Race C. I only really tried two cars, the M4 and the 4C. The M4 was ok, but didn't feel quite as comfortable as the slower 4C, so I went with the slow car. The grid comes up and there is a mix of power cars, and there's me with the little Alfalfa. P11. :dopey:

The race starts and we come to T1. Now, this turn is big. It's wide. You could fit 3 semis side by side through this sucker. So why in the name of all that's holy did some muppet decide it was ok to slam me into the outer wall in the middle of the turn?? :dunce: I scraped the little sprout off the wall and limped back onto the track P19 (that's last BTW). No penalty for me at least :rolleyes:.

Now, I wasn't short shifting of messing with the fuel map or anything like that, but I was still the last to pit, at lap 11. Made a bit of a blunder. The tyres were fine and I had intended to just fuel. Instead without thinking I hit the X and sat there wasting time changing tires. Then I was a bit slow stopping fuel and put in a lap too many.

Given I was in last place from the first corner of a 15 lap race I think it's safe to call this race starting from last place. And the finish?

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They even got my racing number right for a change ;).

SR maintained, DR went up. Another day visiting DR/C :D.
 
Invisigoth
Second and final race for the night, Race C. I only really tried two cars, the M4 and the 4C. The M4 was ok, but didn't feel quite as comfortable as the slower 4C, so I went with the slow car. The grid comes up and there is a mix of power cars, and there's me with the little Alfalfa. P11. :dopey:

The race starts and we come to T1. Now, this turn is big. It's wide. You could fit 3 semis side by side through this sucker. So why in the name of all that's holy did some muppet decide it was ok to slam me into the outer wall in the middle of the turn?? :dunce: I scraped the little sprout off the wall and limped back onto the track P19 (that's last BTW). No penalty for me at least :rolleyes:.

Now, I wasn't short shifting of messing with the fuel map or anything like that, but I was still the last to pit, at lap 11. Made a bit of a blunder. The tyres were fine and I had intended to just fuel. Instead without thinking I hit the X and sat there wasting time changing tires. Then I was a bit slow stopping fuel and put in a lap too many.

Given I was in last place from the first corner of a 15 lap race I think it's safe to call this race starting from last place. And the finish?

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They even got my racing number right for a change ;).

SR maintained, DR went up. Another day visiting DR/C :D.
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The curve is long and wide.. but... as car are at top speed and all want to pursuit the "ideal" Raceline.. nobody is willing to change their trajectory... and then "****" happens... :(
 
ThePhantomAli
A great race by you, and I don’t want to take anything away from that win but... I can’t help but notice just how stable your car is out of turns due to CSA, ill assume the other guy had it turned off due to his car twitching in all the places mine does on that track. I do think it’s an unfair advantage against drivers who choose not to use it.

Again, not to take anything away from your victory, and certainly not saying you wouldn’t have won without it, but it needs to be changed ASAP.
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The problem is that it is an advantage that is allowed and you do not know before if the opponent uses it or not.
 
Daily race B at Lake Mag today... the driver on pole had a good race pace but one mistake made the difference. I know that pain... :(



Cheers
 
Mirror_man
The curve is long and wide.. but... as car are at top speed and all want to pursuit the "ideal" Raceline.. nobody is willing to change their trajectory... and then "****" happens... :(
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Theres at least two "ok" lines through there, I know because the one thats a bit tighter on entry is the one I like to take but it seems to be the unpopular one.
 
ThePhantomAli
A great race by you, and I don’t want to take anything away from that win but... I can’t help but notice just how stable your car is out of turns due to CSA, ill assume the other guy had it turned off due to his car twitching in all the places mine does on that track. I do think it’s an unfair advantage against drivers who choose not to use it.

Again, not to take anything away from your victory, and certainly not saying you wouldn’t have won without it, but it needs to be changed ASAP.
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CSA is not an unfair advantage. At the end of the day it slows you down, period. The other racer you're referring to is just worse than the OP of the video.

A few hours before reset, show me *one* single replay of a Top10 qualifying record holder using CSA. It doesn't happen.
 
RaceFace85
The problem is that it is an advantage that is allowed and you do not know before if the opponent uses it or not.
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Would you (or many others) switch it off knowing the rest of the field have too? I don’t think so, people will always use it as a safety net. I don’t mean to offend by saying that, I know you’re a very good driver.

ARTAsean
CSA is not an unfair advantage. At the end of the day it slows you down, period. The other racer you're referring to is just worse than the OP of the video.

A few hours before reset, show me *one* single replay of a Top10 qualifying record holder using CSA. It doesn't happen.
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I can remember one specific example, I think I moaned about it about a month ago on this thread. But I’m not referring to qualifying, I’m talking about a race situation, you’ve got the chance to eliminate that twitch (not a power slide or spin) in a race that will save you tenths of a second (or track position).

Again, I didn’t say raceface wouldn’t have won without it, quite the contrary, he won because he was a better driver in that race.
 
ThePhantomAli
Would you (or many others) switch it off knowing the rest of the field have too? I don’t think so, people will always use it as a safety net. I don’t mean to offend by saying that, I know you’re a very good driver.



I can remember one specific example, I think I moaned about it about a month ago on this thread. But I’m not referring to qualifying, I’m talking about a race situation, you’ve got the chance to eliminate that twitch (not a power slide or spin) in a race that will save you tenths of a second (or track position).

Again, I didn’t say raceface wouldn’t have won without it, quite the contrary, he won because he was a better driver in that race.
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It eliminates a potential twitch that might never happen, at the expense of costing you .05 at every single turn.

I don't know much much simpler I can say this: CSA slows you down and is not an advantage.
 
ARTAsean
CSA is not an unfair advantage. At the end of the day it slows you down, period. The other racer you're referring to is just worse than the OP of the video.

A few hours before reset, show me *one* single replay of a Top10 qualifying record holder using CSA. It doesn't happen.
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Nice troll. Personally I'm keeping away from csa. I like the twitches and maybe i want it to be a bit loose anyway.

But on some tracks and in some cars yeah, I feel it can slow you down. But in some cars, at some tracks... it can smooth out your correctable mistakes making the lap faster.

But hey its allowed until they disable it.
 
ARTAsean
It eliminates a potential twitch that might never happen, at the expense of costing you .05 at every single turn.

I don't know much much simpler I can say this: CSA slows you down and is not an advantage.
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...for an A+ driver yeah, what about for us mortals. Do you agree that CSA should slow you down more than what it currently does or do you think it’s currently in a good place?
 
ThePhantomAli
...for an A+ driver yeah, what about for us mortals. Do you agree that CSA should slow you down more than what it currently does or do you think it’s currently in a good place?
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Thats a good question actually. I'm torn. On one hand, I would like to see the Aids (specifically CSA) be a little more detrimental to lap times. But on the other hand, if CSA keeps more players on the track and pointed in the right direction, causing less accidents, then I'm compelled to say they should keep it how it is.
 
ThePhantomAli
Would you (or many others) switch it off knowing the rest of the field have too? I don’t think so, people will always use it as a safety net. I don’t mean to offend by saying that, I know you’re a very good driver.



I can remember one specific example, I think I moaned about it about a month ago on this thread. But I’m not referring to qualifying, I’m talking about a race situation, you’ve got the chance to eliminate that twitch (not a power slide or spin) in a race that will save you tenths of a second (or track position).

Again, I didn’t say raceface wouldn’t have won without it, quite the contrary, he won because he was a better driver in that race.
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The best thing would be when A+ drivers are not allowed to use this advantage. So beginners could use this help.

But now it is allowed and when someone is faster with this help he should use it.
 
Mirror_man
I do

I dont Think so....
It makes a lot of difference with my csl... and its not just psicological... it even has a automatic setting... but once I get the right angle... the response from the wheel becomes different and much more adapted to the curves and my input to it...
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Csl solves the radius on a hardware level,gts has no idea that anything is changed.
G29 on the other hand is software only, can't be changed on ps4 (game adjusts it for every car).
The price difference between those two makes this happen :D
 
NJT4567
Dragon Tail last night was so good, I did three qualifying laps so spent most of the time starting at the back of the grid. But it made it even more fun. I completed about 6 races last night and regularly managed to get into the top 3 or 4, some great battles along the way.
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Like you I had some great battles on Dragon Trail last night. I love racing on that track even though with her wide hips my Corvette has a hard time squeezing through the bus stop. Managed to finish top 5 in all my races with a couple of wins in my Corvettes.

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I had ten victories in the last five days. Two on June 8, one on the next day, three each on Sunday and Monday, and one today (shown below). Nine of the ten victories at this span are mostly one make races.
 
This was like a victory for me. The NSX with 4 second penalty, punts me off at the esses. I get a 1.6 second penalty. Get to pit straight and I serve mine. The NSX keeps racing.

I'm down in 7th about 6 seconds awa, 3 laps to go. I just chip away. Pass cars and the NSX is battling another NSX 3 seconds ahead. Chip away again. I'm right on the tail of the battle after the bowl hairpin. Two corners from the end, the second NSX goes wide, I stay on the racing line and pass. Still hasn't servedc its penalty.

Last lap. Stayed on the red dunce cap's tail all lap. Remained on the racing line, hitting my marks to the finish.
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ARTAsean
CSA is not an unfair advantage. At the end of the day it slows you down, period. The other racer you're referring to is just worse than the OP of the video.

A few hours before reset, show me *one* single replay of a Top10 qualifying record holder using CSA. It doesn't happen.
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to say that it slows you down is a subjective viewpoint. It slows some people down, but it speeds other people up, as RaceFace said. Besides, I think his 75k DR speaks for itself. Maybe he could be "faster" without it because he's already a great driver, but who cares if you're performing on that level?
 
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ARTAsean
CSA is not an unfair advantage. At the end of the day it slows you down, period. The other racer you're referring to is just worse than the OP of the video.

A few hours before reset, show me *one* single replay of a Top10 qualifying record holder using CSA. It doesn't happen.
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I was some times in the Top 10 with CSA. The problem is the competition. It is the same with track limits. You can drive without legal shortcuts but you are slower, so most of the faster players use the whole track within the penalty limits of the game.
 
Today is not my day for GTS with a choice between slow, excruciatingly slow and my worst track.

I tried the infield first in the Magane Trophy to check what's up with that. A very boring ride like driving a train, it feels like it's on rails. GR.4 is pretty slow for that track anyway so I didn't bother with the daily C again. GR.2 on Magiorre was better yet I find that track kinda boring as well. So I tried the Fiat on Monza, wow, watching paint dry is more fun! Thanks to the new race schedule I had nothing better to do than enter again, however I quit just before the daily B started again, enough of that.

So I ended up doing a couple races on Magiorre, still without qualifying. I made it up half the field from people spinning out and serving penalties except for one race, my milestone 3000 races finished race where I spun out twice and finished last. I did one more not to end on a bad note for the night, finished 6th with clean race bonus, better.

Yet Magiorre can't keep me interested long, Detroit become human it is for tonight.

I did manage to get back to DR.B and then some, 26.7K, thanks to the race quit and finishing last. Free from DR.A penalties for a while :)

Tomorrow should be better with Brand's hatch. 9 laps in the daily B, I wonder what the one make is, should be a fast car. Hopefully not the full grown red bull... Sports soft tires, wth?

Edit: Oh it's the indy circuit :( I'm out.
 
It's been a while since I played so I did a few races at Blue Moon Infield. A no-stopper with the Citroen was a possibility but I decided not to push my luck. Took my stop, leapt to first and held it. Once again, I did use an extreme brake setting and the results are making me want to try it with every car in the game now.

I also drove the Jag and won with it. I wasn't liking how it handled in the first corner. Otherwise, I could've gotten it into the low 11s for qualifying and broken into the 11s during the race.
 
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