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What a great night it’s been for Racing!! I’ve had some great runs with some great drivers tonight, topped off by still being able to see @KONTRAone ‘s tail lights when I crossed the finish line in this one. :D



I need to stop racing in the daytime, it seems like all the great races happen at night. This was was another super fast, super fun race as well. :)



That was a fun race indeed. @Armored34 was making me push the entire race, and you were right there the whole time with us, and under pressure too it seems lol. Great driving all around 👍
I would've been in that next one too but the wife sent me on a a late grocery run :(
Hopefully we'll run into each other on the track again soon. Good racing once again sir :cheers:
 
I gotta agree that the racing at Catalunya has been incredible this week. I started out with the Lexus and learned that it’s just a little off pace but better on fuel than any of the other common choices here. I was gaining 2-3 seconds on people in the pits. I later found my pace in the WRX, which I think is a sleeper car for this track. Great mid-range acceleration and traction on exits. Got my fastest time of 1:45.8 in the Subaru and I know I left a few tenths on the track. Even though it has 1.5 laps less fuel at pit stop than the Lexus, it’s still faster around the track by a little. I was able to pick up several wins and a bunch of podiums. Made some new friends as well. Happy racing everyone.

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Holy cow - I just came from a race (B)- room, last race was a nightmare can't believe what's inside someones head who can have any pleasure of constantly keep on kicking cars off the track. Don't they understand that for many of us out there racing are practising for hours almost every day? And I believe most of us take this racing game quite seriously and that we have fellow racers out there who wants to drive hard, get good results etc. from the many practised hours. Earlier today I was in a room and one of the racers there started behind me and I learned that in two corners I wasn't able to keep up with his corner-speed. And in one other corner I had better speed than him. He gave me room to pass and I gave him the same treatment. We had Great races. Cheers :)
 
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WooHoo! 40k! Now on to the next challenge, 50k.
Congratulations mate, unfortunately, it just gets harder as you head towards the next 10k barrier !!!

@rono_thomas

Hi again, hope all is well. I can't find your video in our friend list. Seems gone. I would like to download i

@Pigems
Did you save your 2;26 lap-time movie here on GTS? Can't seem to find it.

There's a 2:26.782 saved under my profile on the ps4 on your friends list.
 
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Race C has been interesting this week with the quick guys starting deeper in the pack behind those who have cheated but don't have great pace, it gives the races a different complexion. The track helps too with the long corners at the start of the lap, it's possible to run around the outside if the inside lane gets bottled up. It's nice to race clean but you also can't afford to lose too much time stuck behind slower cars which aren't ahead through legitimate qualifying pace, the good ol' Nascar bump and run works well for those, hard enough to create a cars width, light enough to not give away a penalty.
 
@rono_thomas

Hi again, hope all is well. I can't find your video in our friend list. Seems gone. I would like to download i

@Pigems
Did you save your 2;26 lap-time movie here on GTS? Can't seem to find it.
Seems that I went faster yesterday whilst waiting for a race too load, unfortunately I dont have a copy of the lap, it only automatically saves it if you make it into top 10 👍
 
This is a Huracan, right? Does MT really let you carry that much speed through the esses? The most I can ever get at the top in AT is ~130mph and that's in 6th.

Sorry mate, no it's the TT. MT will help in any car though. Helps adjusting your corner entry/apex speed.
 
That was a fun race indeed. @Armored34 was making me push the entire race, and you were right there the whole time with us, and under pressure too it seems lol. Great driving all around 👍
I would've been in that next one too but the wife sent me on a a late grocery run :(
Hopefully we'll run into each other on the track again soon. Good racing once again sir :cheers:

It definitely was fun, Armoured34 was in the next race as well, I couldn’t quite catch him then either, he’s a fast dude. Here’s hoping we meet up again, maybe next time I can stay a little closer. Great Race Sir! :)

Congratulations mate, unfortunately, it just gets harder as you head towards the next 10k barrier !!!

Thanks! It was definitely difficult to break the 40k barrier, I can only imagine how hard it’s gonna be to break 50k. Hopefully I can do it, I’m feeling more and more comfortable in these faster rooms though so it doesn’t feel completely out of reach right now. :)

This is a Huracan, right? Does MT really let you carry that much speed through the esses? The most I can ever get at the top in AT is ~130mph and that's in 6th.

If you carry the first corner and the esses well enough you can be up to as much as 134/135mph by the top of the hill. :)
 
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Thanks! It was definitely difficult to break the 40k barrier, I can only imagine how hard it’s gonna be to break 50k. Hopefully I can do it, I’m feeling more and more comfortable in these faster rooms though so it doesn’t feel completely out of reach right now. :)

Nice job man, you've risen up to DR-A pretty quickly. Just wait until you hit A+ and deal with that algorithm! Eventually the system is like "yeah, I'm gonna need you to win every race, or lose DR." Keeping your SR at 99 will be the most beneficial, as it'll put you in the fastest/cleanest lobbies as well as offer up more DR points for the taking. Pretty sure I'll be seeing you on the tracks soon enough. I prefer the longer races so I'm usually doing Race C but occasionally the shorter ones if it's a good combo for me. Cheers :cheers:

What's next week's line up?

https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/events.php

scroll down to see next week 👍

Not sure what the Gr.X car in Race C is though, but it's 6 laps so my guess is either the F1 car or the Red Bull Standard.
 
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Here's my 2.26.5xx




That’s a consistent set of times right there, very well done Sir. My time list is usually a bunch of higher times with low ones scattered in where I get it right lol. I push it hard to try to gain those last tenths but maybe I push too hard in qually laps. I’m gonna try a smoother approach next week, thanks for sharing. :)


Nice job man, you've risen up to DR-A pretty quickly. Just wait until you hit A+ and deal with that algorithm! Eventually the system is like "yeah, I'm gonna need you to win every race, or lose DR." Keeping your SR at 99 will be the most beneficial, as it'll put you in the fastest/cleanest lobbies as well as offer up more DR points for the taking. Pretty sure I'll be seeing you on the tracks soon enough. I prefer the longer races so I'm usually doing Race C but occasionally the shorter ones if it's a good combo for me. Cheers :cheers:.


TYVM Sir, it’s been a wild ride so far. I need to up my experience with the faster cars still so I haven’t gotten into any race C’s that require pit stops as of yet, but I really want to get into them as they look like a ton of fun. I’m working on it though as I’ll need it if I’m gonna get into the FIA races and have any kind of chance. I’m still not fully comfortable with the F1, Gr 3 and Gr 2 cars yet, but I’ll get the hang of them with time, my right foot still proves to be a bit heavy for them at this point haha. I hope to see you out there soon! :)

What’s the strategy for pit stop races usually? Go hard and stop early or save fuel going slower and try not to stop? What do you typically use for tires? Do you get options in those races?
 
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Daytime racing is a no no. People do not have a clue. I've been turned into with people expecting to me to vanish for them to take their line after they take a ridiculous entry into corners. Then I'm called an idiot? What, for not jumping onto the grass so you can hopefully make the corner?

Clean racing comes at night when these 🤬 have gone to bed.

Hopefully catch you later @Arcflyer. You got caught up in some of that I think.
 
What’s the strategy for pit stop races usually? Go hard and stop early or save fuel going slower and try not to stop? What do you typically use for tires? Do you get options in those races?

It all depends on the race settings. Lately PD has been emphasizing tire strategy over fuel, especially in FIA races, which is a change from previous seasons. I think they are experimenting in the exhibition seasons with different strategies. In most of the FIA races recently they've been starting you with enough fuel that you don't have to worry about it, so it's all about managing tires and deciding which lap to pit for a possible undercut or overcut.

Race C this week at Catalunya is 11 laps, but in this case you also need to add a little fuel, so the strategy is pretty interesting. Let's say you're in 2nd place, a couple seconds behind the leader...if you pit on lap 5 and he pits on lap 6, you might be able to pass him while he's in the pits and then have to defend until the end. The risk is that you might get stuck in traffic on your out lap and end up behind him again after he pits, but if you avoid traffic you're gaining time because of your fresh tires. The other risk is that even if you successfully undercut, his tires will be one lap fresher than yours which will make a big difference on the last lap, but defending is easier than overtaking clean. It's also sometimes worth considering fuel weight and how it affects your tire wear. If you have a full tank in the beginning, your tires will wear a little more than they will in the 2nd stint when your car is lighter. So I think pitting on lap 5 is actually faster if you're all alone, but risking hitting a ton of traffic is the gamble, and they will be on old tires.

In that same race, if you're in the lead, you'll probably want to pit on lap 6 because that's when most others will pit and you don't want to pit early and get stuck in traffic that you could otherwise avoid. But here is where you risk getting undercut yourself by anyone who is close enough. In many cases your strategy will change depending on your starting position and how the race is going. If you drop down in the pack, pitting early might be a good idea because you're in traffic anyway and you might be able to jump some people on the next lap when they pit.

This race is only on Hard tires but the strategy gets even crazier in FIA races where you sometimes have the option of qualifying and racing on different compounds. One of the recent Nations races was F1 at Interlagos. You could choose between Mediums, Softs and Supersofts and the race was 14 laps. In hindsight, the fastest option was a 2-stopper using Supersofts the whole time, but plenty of people tried one-stopping with different combinations and ended up being helpless in the end getting overtaken by guys on fresh SS's. It was pretty awesome, felt like a real race.

Another aspect of Race C this week is fuel...it's not a huge issue but can make a difference. I've used the WRX and the Lexus both. I'm faster in the WRX but the Gr.3 Lexus is a bit overpowered in the fuel department. Driving both cars the same way, not conserving, the Lexus has 1.5 laps more fuel when pitting on lap 5, which gains you around 3 seconds at least in the pits. That can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.

The better I get the more I like these races that reward a bit of strategy. Still not a big fan of heavy fuel saving, but the emphasis on tires recently has made for some very interesting races that seem more fair and balanced than those with emphasis on fuel in the past.

Sorry for the long reply.
 
Daytime racing is a no no. People do not have a clue. I've been turned into with people expecting to me to vanish for them to take their line after they take a ridiculous entry into corners. Then I'm called an idiot? What, for not jumping onto the grass so you can hopefully make the corner?

Clean racing comes at night when these 🤬 have gone to bed.

Hopefully catch you later @Arcflyer. You got caught up in some of that I think.

Yes I noticed that yesterday afternoon, so many people just driving into others like they didn't know they were there and also going off track and coming flying back on causing more trouble.

Radar needs to be forced on at all times, they need to find somewhere to include it in every view.
 
It all depends on the race settings. Lately PD has been emphasizing tire strategy over fuel, especially in FIA races, which is a change from previous seasons. I think they are experimenting in the exhibition seasons with different strategies. In most of the FIA races recently they've been starting you with enough fuel that you don't have to worry about it, so it's all about managing tires and deciding which lap to pit for a possible undercut or overcut.

Race C this week at Catalunya is 11 laps, but in this case you also need to add a little fuel, so the strategy is pretty interesting. Let's say you're in 2nd place, a couple seconds behind the leader...if you pit on lap 5 and he pits on lap 6, you might be able to pass him while he's in the pits and then have to defend until the end. The risk is that you might get stuck in traffic on your out lap and end up behind him again after he pits, but if you avoid traffic you're gaining time because of your fresh tires. The other risk is that even if you successfully undercut, his tires will be one lap fresher than yours which will make a big difference on the last lap, but defending is easier than overtaking clean. It's also sometimes worth considering fuel weight and how it affects your tire wear. If you have a full tank in the beginning, your tires will wear a little more than they will in the 2nd stint when your car is lighter. So I think pitting on lap 5 is actually faster if you're all alone, but risking hitting a ton of traffic is the gamble, and they will be on old tires.

In that same race, if you're in the lead, you'll probably want to pit on lap 6 because that's when most others will pit and you don't want to pit early and get stuck in traffic that you could otherwise avoid. But here is where you risk getting undercut yourself by anyone who is close enough. In many cases your strategy will change depending on your starting position and how the race is going. If you drop down in the pack, pitting early might be a good idea because you're in traffic anyway and you might be able to jump some people on the next lap when they pit.

This race is only on Hard tires but the strategy gets even crazier in FIA races where you sometimes have the option of qualifying and racing on different compounds. One of the recent Nations races was F1 at Interlagos. You could choose between Mediums, Softs and Supersofts and the race was 14 laps. In hindsight, the fastest option was a 2-stopper using Supersofts the whole time, but plenty of people tried one-stopping with different combinations and ended up being helpless in the end getting overtaken by guys on fresh SS's. It was pretty awesome, felt like a real race.

Another aspect of Race C this week is fuel...it's not a huge issue but can make a difference. I've used the WRX and the Lexus both. I'm faster in the WRX but the Gr.3 Lexus is a bit overpowered in the fuel department. Driving both cars the same way, not conserving, the Lexus has 1.5 laps more fuel when pitting on lap 5, which gains you around 3 seconds at least in the pits. That can be the difference between 1st and 2nd.

The better I get the more I like these races that reward a bit of strategy. Still not a big fan of heavy fuel saving, but the emphasis on tires recently has made for some very interesting races that seem more fair and balanced than those with emphasis on fuel in the past.

Sorry for the long reply.

Thank you very much for the great info, I definitely want to try one of these races now. Hopefully this weeks batch will give me a car/track combo that’s works well for me and I can try one. :)
 
@rono_thomas

Hi again, hope all is well. I can't find your video in our friend list. Seems gone. I would like to download i

@Pigems
Did you save your 2;26 lap-time movie here on GTS? Can't seem to find it.
Daytime racing is a no no. People do not have a clue. I've been turned into with people expecting to me to vanish for them to take their line after they take a ridiculous entry into corners. Then I'm called an idiot? What, for not jumping onto the grass so you can hopefully make the corner?

Clean racing comes at night when these 🤬 have gone to bed.

Hopefully catch you later @Arcflyer. You got caught up in some of that I think.
While you were fighting with one guy, I managed to get alongside both of you over the crest, but next thing I was punted into the barriers. Seemed a good opportunity, but that's how it goes :lol::lol:
 
While you were fighting with one guy, I managed to get alongside both of you over the crest, but next thing I was punted into the barriers. Seemed a good opportunity, but that's how it goes :lol::lol:

He bounced off me, hit the barrier and speared into you. He then revenge punted me at the hairpin. You were right to have a go. I think he may have tried to hit me, missed and took you out instead. I gave him space overtaking in the left hander, gave him space up the hill in the right hander and then he just turned left into me like I wasn't there half way up the esses.

I'll be on a bit later :gtpflag:
 
Well haven't timed the 911 pitstop, but either I am wasting more fuel or the WRX is more thirsty - in pit I miss at least 3-4 seconds to Porsches around me.

Anyway Catalunya seems to go very well with gr3 and tire strategies make up for really interesting and cleanish races.

As for tire strategies - keep in mind that racing in dirty air practically destroys your tires. Depending on the traffic you can make the decision. If those ahead are slow I've had successful undercuts as early as at end of lap 4 (though 5 or even 6 are more balanced) . This however means a long second stint and being really careful and not too aggressive with the defence in the final laps when the tires die.
I tend to put brake balance to 2 on the rear tires at start. If track is clear, then the stint can be quite long (I've had first stints with not too much lap time degradation to end of lap 7) with relatively balanced wear on both front and rear tires, then having a really aggressive final stint.
So yeah, adapt to the conditions. Staying in agroup of more than 2-3 cars may be fun, but it only slows everyone, eaiting their tires at the same time. Pit strategy really adds to the racing experience.
 
yas
Well haven't timed the 911 pitstop, but either I am wasting more fuel or the WRX is more thirsty - in pit I miss at least 3-4 seconds to Porsches around me.

Anyway Catalunya seems to go very well with gr3 and tire strategies make up for really interesting and cleanish races.

As for tire strategies - keep in mind that racing in dirty air practically destroys your tires. Depending on the traffic you can make the decision. If those ahead are slow I've had successful undercuts as early as at end of lap 4 (though 5 or even 6 are more balanced) . This however means a long second stint and being really careful and not too aggressive with the defence in the final laps when the tires die.
I tend to put brake balance to 2 on the rear tires at start. If track is clear, then the stint can be quite long (I've had first stints with not too much lap time degradation to end of lap 7) with relatively balanced wear on both front and rear tires, then having a really aggressive final stint.
So yeah, adapt to the conditions. Staying in agroup of more than 2-3 cars may be fun, but it only slows everyone, eaiting their tires at the same time. Pit strategy really adds to the racing experience.

If you like the Gr.3 Lexus (newer one I think) try it out, it's fuel usage is definitely overpowered. You're right about the WRX, it's very thirsty but quick on this track. Pitting at the end of lap 5 in the WRX I usually had 3.5 laps of fuel left. In the Lexus I had 5 left and only had to add less than 1 lap. If you can keep pace with the Lexus you'll surely jump a position or two in the pits.
 
Daytime racing is a no no. People do not have a clue. I've been turned into with people expecting to me to vanish for them to take their line after they take a ridiculous entry into corners. Then I'm called an idiot? What, for not jumping onto the grass so you can hopefully make the corner?

Clean racing comes at night when these 🤬 have gone to bed.

I race at night between 10:30pm and 1am, and sadly that's not my experience. I gave up on racing for this week because for both race B and C I got sick of getting smashed off the track by idiots who haven't figured out that you cant drive the same as qualifying in traffic :crazy:. Every time I came across someone going slower than me through corners I naturally have to back off so I don't hit them. The people behind me catch up and don't bother to slow down and wait for a proper pass, they just drive on through. My last race I started P11, got to P4, and after getting slammed into the sand ended up finishing P14/18.
 
Here I am ! This will be my best time, I'm done. :D
 

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I finally did it!! 2:26.898 in the TT! Smooth was the answer all along, thanks so much for the tip @Mr616 :)



Great lap man! You were nailing those apexes and getting the power down well on exits. Looks like you and that TT are getting along well.
There's still a bit more in it for you though if you can use a bit more of the track. Try to work your way closer and closer to the edges and you should be able to carry a little more speed through corners 👍
OH, and try doing the last corner in 3rd. It may or may not work for you but it helps me carry a little more speed through there.
Hopefully we can get a few more races in today. Should be a close battle next time :cheers:
 
So I was looking at the top times in asia/pacific for race c and of course the fastest time is using the track exploit, but I also noticed they were mostly using the r8 so I had a go with it and as I remembered the back end is terrible and just doesnt stick especially when the tyres start to wear.

Would I be right in assuming these guys are all running strong countersteering assistance? I cant stand that assist which kind of rules out using the r8, ferrari, lambo for me. Since gt5 the mr cars have had some issues with the handling and still hasnt been fixed.
 
Great lap man! You were nailing those apexes and getting the power down well on exits. Looks like you and that TT are getting along well.
There's still a bit more in it for you though if you can use a bit more of the track. Try to work your way closer and closer to the edges and you should be able to carry a little more speed through corners 👍
OH, and try doing the last corner in 3rd. It may or may not work for you but it helps me carry a little more speed through there.
Hopefully we can get a few more races in today. Should be a close battle next time :cheers:

Thanks very much for the tips and words of encouragement, I’ll try squeezing a little closer to the edges tonight. Im gonna be sad to see this track go later, hopefully she’s got a few more good runs in her before they take it away. I’m probably heading on shortly, hope to see you there Sir. :)
 
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