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[Pedinhuh]

I finally got a win today after a long period without any podium victories on Race C

First I qualified using my 911 RSR since the car is quite fast and fuel/tire wear are deactivated on qualify, I got 1:46:900 which was the fastest I have ever been in that circuit, I still have no idea how and I'm quite sure I won't be able to pull that off again, I haven't recorded it either.

Anyway, instead of racing with the 911 that is quite hard on tire and fuel wear, I decided to roll up with my Atenza Gr3 and save fuel by short shifting all the way up to the pitstop, I lost 3 positions but that was OK because I managed to keep up with the first while saving fuel.

When it was time to pit, everyone had to refuel except for me, who just changed tires

For reference, the first 3 were a Mustang and two 911 RSRs, both aren't good on fuel and tires, specially the 911s.

Then after the pit the Mustang in the 2nd place kept chasing my tail throughout the rest of the race until he came in too hot in a sharp left and went to the ditch, after that I opened a 4 seconds advantage to the other 2nd place and maintained it until the last lap.

I guess the key to win on this race is fuel saving.

 

[banckzy]

I've done a 2:27.6 in the Huracan, I've saved the replay, but when I check the leaderboards the play button isn't there, would I need to share the replay in game for that to show up?

I’ve just sent you a friend request let’s see if I can view it

Edit: @Hasnain282 .... thanks for accepting but I still cannot play it. Maybe you do need to share?

 

[Hasnain282]

I’ve just sent you a friend request let’s see if I can view it

Accepted

 

[Whiteshark90]

After 1 year I finally made it!
DR A!
Interlagos and yamagiwa made it possible, let's see how long I'll be able to stay here!

 

[GA 52]

After 1 year I finally made it!
DR A!
Interlagos and yamagiwa made it possible, let's see how long I'll be able to stay here!

Congrats Whiteshark! Cheers

 

[Qyn]

After 1 year I finally made it!
DR A!
Interlagos and yamagiwa made it possible, let's see how long I'll be able to stay here!

Well done Player! This is a feat that I still haven't conquered (probably never will lol). I think the highest I've been is high 24k. Then it was all down hill from there. Slowly rebounding now. Either way great job!

 

[Pigems]

@GA 52 Congrats on the Dub!!

I came sooooo close to beating my time this afternoon, so close, within .03 lol. I want that last 2 tenths, I want it bad. Heck, I’ll take 2:26.999 even haha.

 

[GA 52]

@GA 52 Congrats on the Dub!!

I came sooooo close to beating my time this afternoon, so close, within .03 lol. I want that last 2 tenths, I want it bad. Heck, I’ll take 2:26.999 even haha.

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Thanks mate - well done!! I too was able to shave off 0.15sec today! Still watching your videos...

 

[Cornaboyzzz]

@GA 52 Congrats on the Dub!!

I came sooooo close to beating my time this afternoon, so close, within .03 lol. I want that last 2 tenths, I want it bad. Heck, I’ll take 2:26.999 even haha.

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I just did a 2:26.977, I don't think I'll ever beat it.

So close !

 

[O604]

I've been reluctant to race this week knowing any DR loss meant a bump down to DR C.

But thanks to helpful tips here I managed a P4 start and 2nd place finish this morning to gain enough of a DR cushion so I can relax a bit.

And I made level 42.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

I finally got a win today after a long period without any podium victories on Race C

First I qualified using my 911 RSR since the car is quite fast and fuel/tire wear are deactivated on qualify, I got 1:46:900 which was the fastest I have ever been in that circuit, I still have no idea how and I'm quite sure I won't be able to pull that off again, I haven't recorded it either.

Anyway, instead of racing with the 911 that is quite hard on tire and fuel wear, I decided to roll up with my Atenza Gr3 and save fuel by short shifting all the way up to the pitstop, I lost 3 positions but that was OK because I managed to keep up with the first while saving fuel.

When it was time to pit, everyone had to refuel except for me, who just changed tires

For reference, the first 3 were a Mustang and two 911 RSRs, both aren't good on fuel and tires, specially the 911s.

Then after the pit the Mustang in the 2nd place kept chasing my tail throughout the rest of the race until he came in too hot in a sharp left and went to the ditch, after that I opened a 4 seconds advantage to the other 2nd place and maintained it until the last lap.

I guess the key to win on this race is fuel saving.

Congrats on your win, not taking away from that at all.

But being able to use one car to set a qualifying time affecting the grid starting position and then using a different car in the race than you used to qualify with is one thing I dislike that is allowed in Sport races.

You should have to race the car you set the Q time with. Using a faster car to grid more to the front and switching in the race to a slower pace car that has better attributes over race distance such as fuel consumption and tire wear should not be allowed.

 

[ASH32]

Congrats on your win, not taking away from that at all.

But being able to use one car to set a qualifying time affecting the grid starting position and then using a different car in the race than you used to qualify with is one thing I dislike that is allowed in Sport races.

You should have to race the car you set the Q time with. Using a faster car to grid more to the front and switching in the race to a slower pace car that has better attributes over race distance such as fuel consumption and tire wear should not be allowed.

I do agree with you here but the Mazda is not slow in qualifying anyway, a top driver can get into the 1:44's with it without any cheating, I've got a 1:45.6 myself. It is a nice race car too as he says, you can run in the 1:46's in race if you are not getting held up.

 

[Pedinhuh]

Congrats on your win, not taking away from that at all.

But being able to use one car to set a qualifying time affecting the grid starting position and then using a different car in the race than you used to qualify with is one thing I dislike that is allowed in Sport races.

You should have to race the car you set the Q time with. Using a faster car to grid more to the front and switching in the race to a slower pace car that has better attributes over race distance such as fuel consumption and tire wear should not be allowed.

To be honest I agree with you there, but I just played with the rules that are allowed in the game.

The 911 is a fast car but it's terrible on endurance races, mostly because of the tires(it slides around more than it should), but also because I can't keep the pace while saving fuel with it.

I do agree with you here but the Mazda is not slow in qualifying anyway, a top driver can get into the 1:44's with it without any cheating, I've got a 1:45.6 myself. It is a nice race car too as he says, you can run in the 1:46's in race if you are not getting held up.

For me 1:46's is the fastest I can go, and 1:44's is not possible without cheating, I think the top 1 time is 1:44's and that driver cheated.

 

[rono_thomas]

mostly because of the tires

I’m not actually convinced the porshe is all that bad on its tyres or fuel.

BMW, Lexus, Mazda, Porshe.

 

[ASH32]

For me 1:46's is the fastest I can go, and 1:44's is not possible without cheating, I think the top 1 time is 1:44's and that driver cheated.

In the EMEA region the top time is in the 1:42's. Cheating can get you about two seconds a lap from what I've seen so I could go faster than a 1:44 if I avoided the last chicane but I'm not going to do it. Before cheats took over the board there was a legit 1:44.7 in the top ten, I watched the replay and saw for myself. Anyone running under 1:45 in the race is a cheat though, report them all, not that anything will happen though sadly.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

In the EMEA region the top time is in the 1:42's. Cheating can get you about two seconds a lap from what I've seen so I could go faster than a 1:44 if I avoided the last chicane but I'm not going to do it. Before cheats took over the board there was a legit 1:44.7 in the top ten, I watched the replay and saw for myself. Anyone running under 1:45 in the race is a cheat though, report them all, not that anything will happen though sadly.

So if the game allows avoiding the last chicane without penalty how is that any different than switching what car you used which is "allowed by the rules of the game"?

Funny how one thing is considered okay as the game allows it but yet something else the game is allowing is cheating. This game has no "set" rules concerning allowable track limits that are the same rules from even corner to corner much less track to track.

I think in my opinion using one car to take the most advantage to qualify to get a better grid starting position but yet racing another entirely different car that takes advantage of the criteria that the race is ran under is just as much cheating as cutting a chicane.

And by the way I have always been on the arguments side that at all times at least two wheels need to be on the actual racetracks asphalt circuit. This was a big 'discussion on a turn at maggior quite some months ago where many held the opinion as long as a penalty was not assessed it was not out of bounds even though in that case none of the car was on the actual asphalt racing surface but deemed legal and associated lap times were legit.

I think that both issues are "exploits" but they are both currently legal by the rules of the game as they are enforced.

 

[rono_thomas]

So if the game allows avoiding the last chicane without penalty how is that any different than switching what car you used which is "allowed by the rules of the game"?

Funny how one thing is considered okay as the game allows it but yet something else the game is allowing is cheating. This game has no "set" rules concerning allowable track limits that are the same rules from even corner to corner much less track to track.

I think in my opinion using one car to take the most advantage to qualify to get a better grid starting position but yet racing another entirely different car that takes advantage of the criteria that the race is ran under is just as much cheating as cutting a chicane.

And by the way I have always been on the arguments side that at all times at least two wheels need to be on the actual racetracks asphalt circuit. This was a big 'discussion on a turn at maggior quite some months ago where many held the opinion as long as a penalty was not assessed it was not out of bounds.

I think that both issues are "exploits" but they are both currently legal by the rules of the game as they are enforced.

Until PD allow qualifying times to be reset there’s no argument to be had with regards to using cars that didn’t set the qualifying times, either that or they lock your choice.

Track limits are track limits and they are the same for everyone but Catalunya this week Fiji the other the track exploits that have been missed are embarrassing.

 

[ASH32]

So if the game allows avoiding the last chicane without penalty how is that any different than switching what car you used which is "allowed by the rules of the game"?

Funny how one thing is considered okay as the game allows it but yet something else the game is allowing is cheating. This game has no "set" rules concerning allowable track limits that are the same rules from even corner to corner much less track to track.

I think in my opinion using one car to take the most advantage to qualify to get a better grid starting position but yet racing another entirely different car that takes advantage of the criteria that the race is ran under is just as much cheating as cutting a chicane.

And by the way I have always been on the arguments side that at all times at least two wheels need to be on the actual racetracks asphalt circuit. This was a big 'discussion on a turn at maggior quite some months ago where many held the opinion as long as a penalty was not assessed it was not out of bounds even though in that case none of the car was on the actual asphalt racing surface but deemed legal and associated lap times were legit.

I think that both issues are "exploits" but they are both currently legal by the rules of the game as they are enforced.

Intent is the difference. Although as I said I'm not a fan of the use one car to qualify and another to race that's possible. With regards to this at Catalunya it's a bit different to the track limit abuse at other tracks, I know PD did not intend for people to be able to take the old track instead of using the chicane, that's why they have bollards in there, they just messed up somewhere along the lines, either by not including a track reset or by believing the bollards they have in there were sufficient to stop people going that way. With some of the other "relaxed" limits it's possible that they are not bothered about them as they are pretty minor in comparison, although it would be nice if the same rules were applied everywhere, two wheels always on track would certainly work for me.

PD are as much to blame here as the players too, it was obvious it will happen if they allow it but it's spoiled this weeks race C with so many cars out of their true position on the grid and I just find that disappointing really.

 

[nowcontrol]

You’ve now beaten it by 0.030 in the TT Cup so it’s gone

All of that for 0.030?! Haha just kidding bro, nice time.

I shared the replay for the world to see, you can find it in my gallery at my profile or search for it in discover.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

Until PD allow qualifying times to be reset there’s no argument to be had with regards to using cars that didn’t set the qualifying times, either that or they lock your choice.

Track limits are track limits and they are the same for everyone but Catalunya this week Fiji the other the track exploits that have been missed are embarrassing.

I agree and until PD resets the track limits on the chicane there is no argument there either. Intent is the same in both the car and track, gain an advantage in the race, and yes these are something only PD can address on both counts.

Any way you look at it it is either poor or lazy coding or lacking paying attention to the details within the game and these issues should be addressed.

 

[rono_thomas]

I agree and until PD resets the track limits on the chicane there is no argument there either. Intent is the same in both the car and track, gain an advantage in the race, and yes these are something only PD can address on both counts.

Any way you look at it it is either poor or lazy coding or lacking paying attention to the details within the game and these issues should be addressed.

I've no idea how any of it works but I get the feeling they need to look at who they employ to test what they will put out.

 

[ASH32]

I've no idea how any of it works but I get the feeling they need to look at who they employ to test what they will put out.

Yes they need to hire someone who will try every shortcut imaginable. It's similar with the penalty system, they need a very dirty driver who knows every dirty move going and then try to mould it around that. It's like PD just expect everyone will automatically be a real gentleman racer and that no one will try to cheat or they have not got used to this online stuff where suddenly what other people do can now spoils the game for everyone else.

 

[O604]

I was thinking about the track limits issue. Is it possible the track limits are for all car groups on that track? Like the same limit for N100 and Gr.X. So when running lower class, it seems like you can run wide more.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I've said it once and I'll say it again - Catalunya is such a tight track. So many 2nd and 3rd gear corners it's ridiculous. Crap results with 2 DNF's and a 7th place. I couldn't find the pace to start further up the grid - my best was 9th. However when I got that 7th place, I started 12th, so it wasn't a massive failure. I did get into several scraps however which definitely made things more interesting.

 

[Pigems]

What a crazy day of racing it’s been. I got my 30th Win this afternoon, the next race I was punted off the track and finished 6th, next race I was running 3rd with a second on either side of me and coming around the final corner, bam, disconnected and minus 1000+ points ffs. This game just didn’t want me to get to 40k today, but I persisted and managed to get the job done with a few P2/3/4 finishes tonight in good rooms. WooHoo! 40k! Now on to the next challenge, 50k.

 

[Pedinhuh]

I was thinking about the track limits issue. Is it possible the track limits are for all car groups on that track? Like the same limit for N100 and Gr.X. So when running lower class, it seems like you can run wide more.

Correct, track limits are set when the track is implemented on the game, it doesn't matter which car you're driving the limits are the same for all classes.

I’m not actually convinced the porshe is all that bad on its tyres or fuel.

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BMW, Lexus, Mazda, Porshe.

The stickied fuel consumption thread says otherwise.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gran-turismo-sport-fuel-consumption-list-tire-usage.372334/

Mazda Atenza
FR P:106 W:103
~213.1km

Porsche 911 RSR
MR P:104 W:106
~186.9km

Lexus RCF GT3 '16
FR P:107 W:102
~203.5km

Lexus RCF GT3 '17
FR P:107 W:102
~211.2km

BMW M3 GT Motosport '11
FR P:108 W:105
~193.3km

BMW M6 GT3
FR P:95 W:102
~195.2km

BMW Z4 GT3
FR P:104 W:108
~189.4km

Regarding the tyres, I don't know maybe he's a more consistent driver than me, I can't keep the rear of the 911 straight on corners.

 

[Pigems]

What a great night it’s been for Racing!! I’ve had some great runs with some great drivers tonight, topped off by still being able to see @KONTRAone ‘s tail lights when I crossed the finish line in this one.



I need to stop racing in the daytime, it seems like all the great races happen at night. This was was another super fast, super fun race as well.

 

[GA 52]

@rono_thomas

Hi again, hope all is well. I can't find your video in our friend list. Seems gone. I would like to download i

@Pigems
Did you save your 2;26 lap-time movie here on GTS? Can't seem to find it.

 

[Pigems]

@rono_thomas

Hi again, hope all is well. I can't find your video in our friend list. Seems gone. I would like to download i

@Pigems
Did you save your 2;26 lap-time movie here on GTS? Can't seem to find it.

I haven’t been able to crack 2:26 yet unless I’ve done it in a race and didn’t realize. I came within .03 of my time today but that’s the closest I’ve come. I think it might just be the best I’m getting on this track.

Well, I’m ending the day with 43,852 DR points, it’s been a good day. A bunch of great races tonight, man that was fun.

 

[Groundfish]

I must say I have enjoyed Catalunya immensely. What a great track. There is just so much time to find there. It’s amazing. I’ve done 4 race c this week which is a big number for me and a lot of practice.
The highest my qual time put me on grid was 4 in an all bs room and I was able to somehow manage 2nd! Very happy.
Except for that race I was matched in very fast rooms with multiple a and a plus s drivers. I think I started fifteenth in the last one, but man, great racing. This last one was by far the most fun.
Managed to raise positions by several by the end. (Jumped a couple on the pit) but I was pissed because I ran a very very good race with 2 fellas pretty close behind for the last 4 laps. I’d pull a gap, then they would get close...Nerve racking to say the least.
I managed to maintain all the way until the entry to the final hairpin. I was paranoid of getting a mini punt there since it was last lap and overdid my hustle down the hill.
Looking at the replay I was unable to get turned in which is a terrible mistake. Lost 2 spots right there that I could have had by not braking in time...Cardinal sin.
Dang though great ride and I gained a bit of dr.
Great fun! Cheers to all the great players out there.