"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Invisigoth]

I think the best strategy is soft/soft with some fuel saving, any other thinking or experience?

I've been doing no stops on hards, and the tyres are very unhappy by the end. I wouldn't trust myself with softs . I'm going to go with mediums and a stop and see how I go.

 

[6BK]

Come on in race B. The water is fine. I went with a couple qual laps waiting for matching and hit a .34 flat. It’s not enough to get up the grid for bs. Gotta hit a low 33. Started 10 in race 1, lap 2 people were battling and I got up to 6 from all their battling and then they wiped out in front of me. I braked, avoided barely but got rear ended by the fellas behind me and punted in the fast left maybe turn 3? I had the two car streaking sideways across the track in front of me.
No orange down arrow just stuck in dfl. I recovered by the end to my start position so I must say it was still a good race. Second race I started 10 and finished 6. The heartbeat of America was beating strong as I outdid the Found On Road Dead And Viper chasing. It was quite exhilarating running tight with some good drivers.
Not bad. I picked up a hundred dr for my efforts ad stayed sr 99. Race 2 got a clean bonus!
I ran a couple times equal to my qual in race. I run faster when chasing. I really enjoy that track. What I profit from is battles. People get stuck in battle mode and don’t want to give an inch which can be a huge mistake. I’m right behind ya runnin the race line and I love to see battles. IMO some of these younger guys should think ahead instead of running 2 wide battling for 7th you know? Seriously sometimes it’s faster to allow an overtake and run the race line instead of getting out of shape all over.
I’m not what I would call fast, just consistent in gr3. It pays dividends. I may work a bit on the qual time, but tbh I just enjoy racing people in a fair fashion.
Really nice runs tonight. I’ve truly found after being 99sr for quite a while now that it seems like the people I race are pretty clean/concerned to avoid contact.

Stay thirsty my friends.

You sound like you are doing exactly the same as myself. I'm only recently a DR B driver but holding steady at 12 to 14,000 points. Quali in Daily B is just over .34 for me (Interlagos Gr3 with Vantage, Atenza & Mustang all doing about same times) which gets you the bottom half of a DR B grid. I generally end up 4 to 5 places better by the end purely by being consistent, letting others battle and watch them fall off the track. Often I don't make single real "overtake" as such. Most important for me is not to get involved in any rubbish on lap 1. Don't dive bomb on turn 1 and make sure you take a clean but defensive line. You are right, generally DR B / SR S will respect that and single file in such cases rather than pushing into spaces that don't exist. Only problem last night was that I got a very heavy punt in two races in a row, pushing me miles off track and giving me a virtual nose bleed. I don't think either hit was intentional, I braked early to avoid a slide in front and the car behind rear ended me. Ended up last in two races and dropped 2K DR points. I don't think low end DR B drivers are generally faster than good DR D and C. Four weeks ago we were at Interlagos and I was only DR D but the races were just as fast and in a lot of cases they were cleaner. I think DR B races are just more consistent rather than outright faster.

 

[manion]

That initial 6 laps on soft tyres is an absolute killer especially in the gr c cars, worthwile for the last 5 though and the speed on laps 1-4 is so much better than mediums its worth sticking it out if you can keep it on the track.

R92cp seems to be the quickest car round here which is a nice change from the more recent lmps, the lm55 is also pretty good and has the advantage of 4wd. The Alpine vgt gr 1 is also worth a run and before I tried the Nissan was the quickest qually lap I had done with a 21.9. First lap in the R92 dropped it to a 21.7 and was on for a 21.3-5 before screwing up at Ascari.

Grids are pretty small in Aus since the server separation from the rest of Asia, seeing about 14-15 on the load in screen turn into 10-11 by race start and sometimes only having 8-10 finish the races.

 

[Pigems]

ABS gitch? Oh, do tell lol.

There is a thread about it on the main GTS Page, that’s where I got the idea to try it. Basically you take a piece of cardboard and jam it in front of the brake pedal or into the L2(brake) button so the brake is stuck on just enough to engage the ABS, but not enough to apply any actual brake and the car supposedly gets some sort of boost in performance. Hopefully PD fixes it soon as it’s totally not fair to anyone who doesn’t know about it. It’s why you see the ABS light flashing the entire time in the lap video I posted last night.

Here is the thread. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/possible-new-bug-blinking-braking-indicator.383758/

 

[Hoof Arted]

First race on the new Oceania (or Aus/NZ) server and managed my first win in a Group C car! It helped that there no other Gr C cars in the starting top 5 so I could get a good lead by the chicane and control my pace. Had some very hairy moments on old tyres but kept it on the track.

2nd race I got held up by a fellow Jag racer in the chicane. Got a real poor exit, got knocked around a bit and lost places to some LM55's. Battled back through the pack to grab 2nd behind one of the LM55's.

3rd race, decided to change tactics and do a no-stop with the Tomahawk on softs. Unforunately, I lost 4 places by the chicane and struggled to get past an LM55 that couldn't take the chicane properly. He would brake too late, then re-join the track right in front me nearly every lap. Eventually took the lead after everyone pitted, but was short-lived as I got passed by @manion in his Alpine with a couple of laps to go. Had virtually no grip left, but finished 2nd.

Grids/matchmaking isn't good; feel real sorry for the DR-D/C guys that get matched with much higher ranked drivers.

 

[El_Tim]

You sound like you are doing exactly the same as myself. I'm only recently a DR B driver but holding steady at 12 to 14,000 points. Quali in Daily B is just over .34 for me (Interlagos Gr3 with Vantage, Atenza & Mustang all doing about same times) which gets you the bottom half of a DR B grid. I generally end up 4 to 5 places better by the end purely by being consistent, letting others battle and watch them fall off the track. Often I don't make single real "overtake" as such. Most important for me is not to get involved in any rubbish on lap 1. Don't dive bomb on turn 1 and make sure you take a clean but defensive line. You are right, generally DR B / SR S will respect that and single file in such cases rather than pushing into spaces that don't exist. Only problem last night was that I got a very heavy punt in two races in a row, pushing me miles off track and giving me a virtual nose bleed. I don't think either hit was intentional, I braked early to avoid a slide in front and the car behind rear ended me. Ended up last in two races and dropped 2K DR points. I don't think low end DR B drivers are generally faster than good DR D and C. Four weeks ago we were at Interlagos and I was only DR D but the races were just as fast and in a lot of cases they were cleaner. I think DR B races are just more consistent rather than outright faster.

Practised Interlagos for 2hrs last night and found .8s resulting in a quali time of 1:32,9. Now I start 2nd or 3rd among DR Bs and there the race is much cleaner. So after my troubles on Monday I am back at SR S. Unfortunately getting up at 5am and driving at 11pm my concentration during the races is, well, let's call it inconsistent. I got penalties in all races for leaving the track after the double right in the infield making me lose one position each time. At least I didn't ram anybody off the track and gained about 2000 DR points.

 

[6BK]

Practised Interlagos for 2hrs last night and found .8s resulting in a quali time of 1:32,9. Now I start 2nd or 3rd among DR Bs and there the race is much cleaner. So after my troubles on Monday I am back at SR S. Unfortunately getting up at 5am and driving at 11pm my concentration during the races is, well, let's call it inconsistent. I got penalties in all races for leaving the track after the double right in the infield making me lose one position each time. At least I didn't ram anybody off the track and gained about 2000 DR points.

Yeh, I know the feeling. Usually up early in the morn and not online until 11 or 12 at night. I work 60(ish) hours a week but sometimes get a weekday off and play early, say, 9 or 10 in the morn. My concentration is much better. To be fair to the guys that punted me last night, there were slides in front of me both times that I was trying to avoid but I probably over reacted and caused the cars behind to hit me. I said it recently here that I've changed how I play and take more care to see my part in shunts before blaming other drivers.

Sub 1.33 is very tasty, well done @El_Tim. I've done a good few laps of Interlagos but still can't beat the 1.34(.02...damn I was close) but I'm also half afraid to do it. Sometimes I get a lucky lap and knock 1 or .5 secs off but can't repeat it. Then I end up in a race where I'm out gunned and look like a mobile road block.

 

[beegentoo]

My experiences over the last 30 minutes made me have a decision.

I‘m staying at home today since I feel sick and spent half of last night in a special room (the one with the tiled walls). I decided to give the Vantage a run on interlagos. After a few laps of qualifying and nearly touching my best lap I decided to race. Wrong decision. Tried to avoid carnage while those behind me didn‘t. Over those five laps I got:
- 1sec penalty for leaving the track in the Senna-S,
- 5sec penalty for being the white ball between the queue and the red ball,
- 3sec penalty for being scrubbed on my left in the quick left hander leading into the infield
- minus 5 SR
- minus 150 DR

The second race came up and I got disconnected without any error message; never had this problem before.

So my decision for at least for the rest of the month is: No sports mode for me anymore until PD gets their QA along with the penalty issues sorted out. I still got a few books to read and also a few other games to finish (Kingdom Come and RDR2). And I could also spend more time with my guitars (didn‘t play these over the last weeks)

Racing is a small part of my spare time in the evening. I see no reason to finish such an activity being angry and frustrated instead of calm and relaxed (it used to be lile that until they made the penalties FUBAR).

 

[Invisigoth]

Grids/matchmaking isn't good; feel real sorry for the DR-D/C guys that get matched with much higher ranked drivers.

Yeh, that'd be me . The LM55 seemed to be the META for my race. I was the only Alpine. and a lone Peugeot R92CP was the only Group C. It passed me like I was standing still .

 

[Pedinhuh]

People will drive a lot cleaner with severe damage settings. Easy as 1,2,3.

That's very debatable.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Ugh matchmaking. I woke up at 4am from pain (back still bad) couldn't get back to sleep to I entered the 5am race to distract my mind. It's a dangerous time. While during prime time the separation didn't change all that much, (mostly DR.A to DR.B all still SR.S) at this time of night it's a mess.

I got rammed by the SR.C's no surpise. 3 times punted off the road and more contacts. They had red ratings at the end of course, yet dragged my SR down as well by 8 points. I feel for those now stuck in the tiny regions. At least when everyone is SR.S you still have a chance at a clean race.

The next race only had 11 people, yet luckily limited to SR.A - SR.S range. There were still 3 troublemakers in the 11, one who dropped to SR.B, however I managed to gain 5 SR despite getting hit. One more then.

Racing in prime time without South America was slightly better. The skill gap was a bit bigger yet in the 3 races I did (from 8pm) there were no huge explosions in the first chicane and much fewer red ratings at the end. Less lag helps a lot in GR.1. I still seems to be one of the few that bothers to drive without a penalty. Why would you really, penalties disappear so easily on that track in GR.1. Penalty zones will change that completely.

Well rip me. 8 SR.B in the next race, SR.C and some SR.A's, 16 entries. Only 4 SR.S.

That went surprisingly well, thanks to my worst overtake ever. I have no clue how I got away with this and it was merely the result of mistaking the 150 marker for the 200 marker, braking 50 meters later than I wanted to. How to dive bomb 3 cars at once


There was also the classic corner helper

Thanks for the push!

I finished 3rd in that one, got briefly in second yet couldn't hold on to it. One driver dropped to SR.E after the race. I went to SR 99 thanks to that beautiful dive bomb, hmm :/ A least it got me out of reach of the SR.E driver (and SR.B's)

The race after that, only 9 people. I'm the only DR.A in the room. The person in first thinks it's faster to cut the chicane every lap, it's not.

I did one more race at 7:30 before getting the kids to school which showed this server separation is pointless when the game still allows cross region accounts. Not that that's always bad yet this race had two 1 bar connections, one of which I had the pleasure to get stuck behind. He was lagging all around and when I was passing him on the straight his car behaved as if I wasn't there and rammed me off, giving me a penalty... What's the point in removing the South Americans with decent connections (never had much of an issue with most yellow connections) while allowing bad 1 bar connections to stay. Only 3 SR lost luckily.

(The game doesn't always report it right though. I've seen 1 bar connections with only 35ms ping time driving like a green connection. This one had actual major lag and reported as 160ms ping)

 

[Invisigoth]

Another day, another dodgy grid line up. Qualified P6/11 with the 787B. Grid had all the colours of the SR rainbow, but DR was lacking DR/A, A+ or S.

Race starts and the bend before the chicane I was forced wide and into the sand.. down to last place. Then I get punted at the chicane on the second lap by a muppet in a R92CP. Later the same muppet kept hitting me in the side on the straits. For crying out loud, when I see something coming up behind me and obviously faster than me on a strait, I move over. How hard could it be to just not turn the wheel/stick??? .

I pitted lap 6 for fresh mediums, then worked my way around the track. I was sitting on P7 hunting down P6, when muppet in the R92 strikes again. I finished P8. Somehow he didn't have any penalties showing, but a red SR. He was SR/B. Twice as many races as me, but his SR/DR are all over the map. The word "menace" springs to mind .

SR blue. DR dropped another 100 odd. This Oceania change is really making me want to not bother with sport mode any more . Another day above.. yeh whatever.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Racing is a small part of my spare time in the evening. I see no reason to finish such an activity being angry and frustrated instead of calm and relaxed (it used to be lile that until they made the penalties FUBAR).

I had 4 races last night with the Aston, B+B rooms, 3 blues and one white for SR, finished as an A SR, gaines 27 SR points and 3,000 DR points.

You're doing something wrong.

 

[Rexracer702]

I have a question for you all. I apologize if this isn't the place, but since I race mosty daily B races... I'm wondering where you set traction control in a GR3 car. I've been running at 2. My best lap this week is a 1:33.8xx and I have a handful more laps in the 33's with consistant mid to low 34's with a clear track. Do most of you set and forget, or are you playing with TC during a race. I'm thinking of running some laps with 0 TC to work on throttle control...

 

[Grandea GTR]

Decided to give Maggiore a try once more only to get myself from B B to B D.

Yuuuup, not doing that race again.

I have a question for you all. I apologize if this isn't the place, but since I race mosty daily B races... I'm wondering where you set traction control in a GR3 car. I've been running at 2. My best lap this week is a 1:33.8xx and I have a handful more laps in the 33's with consistant mid to low 34's with a clear track. Do most of you set and forget, or are you playing with TC during a race. I'm thinking of running some laps with 0 TC to work on throttle control...

I set mine at 1 for Gr.3, the BoP LSD settings for the Gr.4/3/2/1 cars are imo hot doodoo.

 

[pauloestevino]

Oh, and he was definitely a Brazilian with a US account. I'm sure of it.

Sure, incredibly relevant this informartion. But now you are gonna race just with US players, your problems are solved...

 

[ASH32]

Did a few Race B's today and have not seen any cheaters so that's good. 👍

Did just get absolutely smoked by @TRL LIGHTNING, what a shock. Yep I'm not going to able to run 1:31.4 race laps and I'd wager he can go well quicker than that too.

Oh and just a note to say once again how sorry I feel for the guys who are trying to race clean at the low end of A/top end of B DR, when looking back at the replays for cheats, once I got past the top 5 or so, I only saw some incredibly bad driving, just so dirty, it's not even accidental and it's no wonder many people complain of SR drops either, what with all the "revenge" hits.

 

[rono_thomas]

I have a question for you all. I apologize if this isn't the place, but since I race mosty daily B races... I'm wondering where you set traction control in a GR3 car. I've been running at 2. My best lap this week is a 1:33.8xx and I have a handful more laps in the 33's with consistant mid to low 34's with a clear track. Do most of you set and forget, or are you playing with TC during a race. I'm thinking of running some laps with 0 TC to work on throttle control...

0 for me, will only ever use TC to launch off a standing start.

 

[ASH32]

0 for me, will only ever use TC to launch off a standing start.

Yes and no CSA or ASM either. Not sure why they are still allowed in the "dailies" when they are banned in the FIA stuff. Plus once you learn how to drive without CSA, as I had to do, it's better.

 

[adstomko]

Yes and no CSA or ASM either. Not sure why they are still allowed in the "dailies" when they are banned in the FIA stuff. Plus once you learn how to drive without CSA, as I had to do, it's better.

Tried my best to get into 1:30s with R8 LMS, but my first sector is always .1 or .2. Also losing 3 tenths in middle sector somewhere and I just can't find it. I think the top 3 have adjusted their brake balance through each corner

 

[sturk0167]

Ugh matchmaking. I woke up at 4am from pain (back still bad) couldn't get back to sleep to I entered the 5am race to distract my mind. It's a dangerous time. While during prime time the separation didn't change all that much, (mostly DR.A to DR.B all still SR.S) at this time of night it's a mess.

I got rammed by the SR.C's no surpise. 3 times punted off the road and more contacts. They had red ratings at the end of course, yet dragged my SR down as well by 8 points. I feel for those now stuck in the tiny regions. At least when everyone is SR.S you still have a chance at a clean race.

The next race only had 11 people, yet luckily limited to SR.A - SR.S range. There were still 3 troublemakers in the 11, one who dropped to SR.B, however I managed to gain 5 SR despite getting hit. One more then.

Racing in prime time without South America was slightly better. The skill gap was a bit bigger yet in the 3 races I did (from 8pm) there were no huge explosions in the first chicane and much fewer red ratings at the end. Less lag helps a lot in GR.1. I still seems to be one of the few that bothers to drive without a penalty. Why would you really, penalties disappear so easily on that track in GR.1. Penalty zones will change that completely.

Well rip me. 8 SR.B in the next race, SR.C and some SR.A's, 16 entries. Only 4 SR.S.

That went surprisingly well, thanks to my worst overtake ever. I have no clue how I got away with this and it was merely the result of mistaking the 150 marker for the 200 marker, braking 50 meters later than I wanted to. How to dive bomb 3 cars at once


There was also the classic corner helper

Thanks for the push!

I finished 3rd in that one, got briefly in second yet couldn't hold on to it. One driver dropped to SR.E after the race. I went to SR 99 thanks to that beautiful dive bomb, hmm :/ A least it got me out of reach of the SR.E driver (and SR.B's)

The race after that, only 9 people. I'm the only DR.A in the room. The person in first thinks it's faster to cut the chicane every lap, it's not.

I did one more race at 7:30 before getting the kids to school which showed this server separation is pointless when the game still allows cross region accounts. Not that that's always bad yet this race had two 1 bar connections, one of which I had the pleasure to get stuck behind. He was lagging all around and when I was passing him on the straight his car behaved as if I wasn't there and rammed me off, giving me a penalty... What's the point in removing the South Americans with decent connections (never had much of an issue with most yellow connections) while allowing bad 1 bar connections to stay. Only 3 SR lost luckily.

(The game doesn't always report it right though. I've seen 1 bar connections with only 35ms ping time driving like a green connection. This one had actual major lag and reported as 160ms ping)

2 things;

First, that triple pass was awesome. 👍 I can't believe it worked. I seriously doubt you would ever attempt that on purpose.

Second, I would assume that in the pre-dawn hours, at least a couple drivers will be drunk.

 

[sturk0167]

Sure, incredibly relevant this informartion. But now you are gonna race just with US players, your problems are solved...

I voiced my opinion here, about a week ago, saying that I would prefer to race with the South Americans.

 

[Rexracer702]

CSA?? I played GT4 when it first came out, never used ASM or TC, with rare exceptions on the TC. Tried turning off TC for a couple of laps the other day and kept spining coming out of the hairpins. Gotta give it another try and train my foot not to be so heavy. It will help once I get my seat designed and built. It's gotta slide under the sofa. (sans wheels and pedals)

 

[El_Tim]

Sub 1.33 is very tasty, well done @El_Tim. I've done a good few laps of Interlagos but still can't beat the 1.34(.02...damn I was close) but I'm also half afraid to do it. Sometimes I get a lucky lap and knock 1 or .5 secs off but can't repeat it. Then I end up in a race where I'm out gunned and look like a mobile road block.

Thank you @6BK! Looking at how long it took until I dialed that in it is far beyond my imagination how the top guys shave another 2.8s though...

 

[Groundfish]

You sound like you are doing exactly the same as myself. I'm only recently a DR B driver but holding steady at 12 to 14,000 points. Quali in Daily B is just over .34 for me (Interlagos Gr3 with Vantage, Atenza & Mustang all doing about same times) which gets you the bottom half of a DR B grid. I generally end up 4 to 5 places better by the end purely by being consistent, letting others battle and watch them fall off the track. Often I don't make single real "overtake" as such. Most important for me is not to get involved in any rubbish on lap 1. Don't dive bomb on turn 1 and make sure you take a clean but defensive line. You are right, generally DR B / SR S will respect that and single file in such cases rather than pushing into spaces that don't exist. Only problem last night was that I got a very heavy punt in two races in a row, pushing me miles off track and giving me a virtual nose bleed. I don't think either hit was intentional, I braked early to avoid a slide in front and the car behind rear ended me. Ended up last in two races and dropped 2K DR points. I don't think low end DR B drivers are generally faster than good DR D and C. Four weeks ago we were at Interlagos and I was only DR D but the races were just as fast and in a lot of cases they were cleaner. I think DR B races are just more consistent rather than outright faster.

I just eclipsed 20k but then lost almost 1000 first race at RBR.
Interlagos Ive managed to gain a couple hundred back in 2 races.
It would have been better, but I had to recover after getting crashed out to last in one.
For me when I was low b it seemed like that was my ceiling at first. C and D seem to target you.
I’m getting faster as I learn more tracks.
I play for fun and don’t do a ton of races. I’m up to about 130 or so total.
If I were so inclined I’d farm tracks I prefer and go for as many dr as possible. I would probably be A if I gamed hard but I play for fun competition. I won’t usually do more than a race in a sitting.
When I am matched in top lobbies I have had the most fun. Like with some A plus and A in there.
B seems a mixed bag.
I feel like diff tracks I might be low b to mid a.

 

[El_Tim]

I have a question for you all. I apologize if this isn't the place, but since I race mosty daily B races... I'm wondering where you set traction control in a GR3 car. I've been running at 2. My best lap this week is a 1:33.8xx and I have a handful more laps in the 33's with consistant mid to low 34's with a clear track. Do most of you set and forget, or are you playing with TC during a race. I'm thinking of running some laps with 0 TC to work on throttle control...

In quali always TC 0 but in races I don't dare as I don't want to spin in the heat of a battle. So there I use TC 2. Be sure to set that in the car menu and switch it off in the car. Otherwise you might start with TC off while you think it was on. Not that it happened to me, but...

 

[Rexracer702]

I still have to figure out how to do this stuff from in the car. Things have changed a lot since GT4. And to think (for me) it all started with Pole Position and Super Hang-on in the arcade

 

[NevilleNobody]

I use TC2 but use the X button for gas so it's an on/off switch. If you can master with no TC it is faster for sure.

 

[ASH32]

Tried my best to get into 1:30s with R8 LMS, but my first sector is always .1 or .2. Also losing 3 tenths in middle sector somewhere and I just can't find it. I think the top 3 have adjusted their brake balance through each corner

Yes maybe, I have not tried the Audi myself, I'm not getting the best out of the Mazda so I've stuck with that for now. Will probably try the Audi soon, don't expect I'll be any faster than I currently am though.

 

[Cerebral303]

Just grabbed another 2 wins on Maggiore. Only raced there 6 times this week, and won 3.

The first today was close and clean with a German driver keeping me honest. Was nice to chat after, another reminder that the community at large in this game is good.

The second race I was out in front like Igor Fraga with a 2-3 sec gap after the first lap, but then when that gap closes to 1 second after a poor exit from the last corner you realise 3 seconds isn't much. Stacked the first corner on lap 6 or 7 and gained a 0.6s pen but on the last lap the car behind went wide on T2 and gifted me the win, had 2 seconds in hand so rolled over the line and took the 1s penalty and the win.

Only won 8 races in this game, so need to make sure I keep doing this but although winning feels good, it actually sates my appetite rather than fuelling it. Still, it's nice being in front where no one can punt or run you off the edge.