"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Philtaylor17]

That's an awesome time, I always struggle to get under 2:10.
The use of CSA makes me somewhat disappointed though.

If it helps, i also did a 2.07.7xx without CSA at the start of the week ( I'll upload that later ) but saw some guys beat me with CSA and dissapointingly it was faster, like you i do hope they disable it soon.

Also, just dropped to a 2.07.373
Whats crazy is i made a mistake through spoon and the hairpin again after a PB first sector, and kinda gave up on the lap so theres a 2.07.2xx in there.. didnt even take the shortest line up the straight lol

 

[Groundfish]

Hmm I’m gonna try the 86.

 

[ASH32]

Okay, what is CSA. I Know ASM.

Counter Steer Assist. It's most effective in cars like the 4C, ones that like to slide about as it stabilisers them a bit and you can push them harder without losing control.

 

[Philtaylor17]

BTW, Do you have the brakes biased towards the rear?

Yes plus 1 to the rear all the way around

 

[stpatty]

Last night, Race C:

1. Start 14th in a GT-R. Finish 2nd, 6.5 seconds behind the one guy who I saw was clean - he slipstreamed and passed me sensibly. Fine.
2 & 3. BMW M6. Improved qualifying time by ~1.5 seconds. DNF. You will be disqualified after the next collision. I didn't touch anyone when I got booted in the third race.

Take the back straight, the one that's flat through the bendy tunnel. Why would you get alongside someone through there when you're behind them? You put both cars at risk of a collision. If the leading car were to let up or if you were able to pass cleanly, they would then have a slipstream into the hairpin at the bottom of the straight. Show some common sense.

 

[Kalder]

Wow, I've never seen this before, a room with DR:B to E and SR B to C, and guess what??? Really nobody had negative SR after the race. I'm impressed!
Have the angry little buggers gone to play Onrush? (New game in the PS+ games for december)

 

[Philtaylor17]

Here's the 2:07.373 lap.

First sector was roughly how i wanted it. Slight feathering throttle coming out of the hairpin was a small error, and slightly too much entry speed into the second part of spoon, got away with it but definitly cost me a little.

Next push is to the low 07.3s / high 07.2s.

 

[Rexracer702]

I'll have to learn how to post video here if I ever get a lap worth posting. Nice lap!

 

[JC_Dude]

Getting closer and closer to snapping my disc. I've been able to start 1 race in 3 hours. This is a mess.

 

[vvise]

Getting closer and closer to snapping my disc. I've been able to start 1 race in 3 hours. This is a mess.

Have you tried restarting the game / the ps4? I think sometimes something gets corrupted in the memory and only bugs out when trying to load into a race. Maybe something to do with liveries?

 

[Melbourne Park]

...Anybody else try the Ferarri 458? If so, how does it stack up? I think I'm sliding around too much. Maybe I'll slow down, watch my lines and find some of the 2+ seconds I'm missing.

I've tried it, but went wide and touched the sand ... I was watching though the first and second cars a TT with a driver I know and an Alfa who ended up beating the TT - not sure how as the TT had a time penalty and maybe it was the Alfa's fault - who knows. But the VW/Audis are easy to drive IMO unless you understeer off the track.

When I started with only a few cars in the race - the TT in front was an A driver with a 1:087 or something ... but I grabbed 2nd gear perfectly and I thought with the draft and my Ferrari, I'e be all over him at the first corner ... but approaching the first corner, he was 0.8 seconds in front - he just pulled away. So looking at the power to weight ratio the Ferrari is too heavy I guess. It is great to drive though but more tricky and hence entertaining. When a car is faster, I reckon your places should be discounted - whats the point of people driving at TT every GR.3 race ? How boring is that? Because I find it a very boring car to drive. So too the first version of the real one IMO. Not sure about how they are now.

Good luck ...

And also to someone previously who was annoyed because he got blocked by the car in front who mucked up and then blocked the passing attempt - have some sympathy mate. If the guy in front has blown it, well its not your total right to pass him ... he's just made a big mistake, and I don't blaim a guy for trying to be defensive after a big mistake. Let him recover and then sit on his bumper and watch him sweat IMO. Next time he makes a mistake you'd be safely through because you'd have been close to him ... presuming he's not a ******** driver of course.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I haven't raced yet today, well not during day time that is, I finally got some rest instead! I'll be back racing in a bit. I actually did qualify yesterday. New mission parameters, complete a lap without ever touching any steering controls, only gas and reverse. Plus I was on the phone as well, added handicap. That turned out surprisingly tricky. First I got stuck at the container area, back and forth, back and forth, not getting the right angle after a bounce, getting reset backwards all the time.

After a lot of careful bouncing I finally managed to back up through the corner sequence for an easy drive to the hairpin at the pit stop area, where I got dead stuck. No amount of ramming, forward, reverse, run up would help get the car angled enough to get beyond the reset trigger. Finally a light bulb went off in my mind, I still had TCS on 2. TCS 0 did the trick, sort off. It still took a lot of trial and error to get the car spun right and get quick enough on reverse (car still has perfect traction control in reverse btw) to Work it into the pit entry corner and finally far enough around to beat the reset point.

Triumph, the rest of the track was easy. Finally after 36 minutes, 20 seconds, one completed phone call and 42 minutes, 25 seconds in penalties, I qualified without steering! This game is too easy, what do you need a wheel for

Actually I wondered if you could go beyond an hour. Yes, you can and the time still fits (barely) in the grid line up. Any potential wrap around point won't occur until almost 600 hours (where a 32 bit integer turns negative in milliseconds). I don't have that much patience. I could rubber band it next week and see if a 10 hour qualify time still fits on screen


TLDR GR.3 Tokyo South inner loop is not holding my attention as much... Needs GR.1!

 

[Grandea GTR]

Decided to give Race C a go a couple of times, managed to get myself back to a C C.

Wew

 

[ScottPuss20]

The Ford Spec II and VW GTI are popular in NA as well. I just tried the GTI to see if I would be faster in it than the Lexus. Not really, and it uses a whole lot more fuel. Plus this happened just before the post race countdown was done:

Worst time to get disconnected as that counts as a loss, Nearly 2K DR lost for that since there were a lot of DR.D to fill up the room.
I actually finished 4th, pos 2 to 4 have negative gap time...

That's still charted up as a loss even though you won the race? What a load of crap, it's not like you were disconnected mid-race. Game is dumb.

 

[Melbourne Park]

My lap from before, 2.07.584.
Slower first sector than i would like by about a tenth and then slightly deep into the hairpin cost me some time. Hopefully drop into the 07.4's later in the week.

Thanks so much. The Alfa I presume.

Strange thing is that watching the F1 races at Suzuka in both the race and qualifying this year, they are way out to the left at the beginning of the straight while you stuck to the shortest course to the line from the chicane. That's not intuitive to me but clearly worked.

Your video will change the way I drive.

 

[O604]

I feel like it's easier to set a best time while waiting for a race. Today, I'm trying to get my time down on Race B. Couldn't break 2:12. Then first practice lap after entering a race, 2:11.711. Haven't got close since.

Anyways it got me P2. Surprisingly held on longer than I thought I would. But could never get in the groove. Untidy on the last lap. Finished 4th.

Races have been really clean for me on Suzuka. Feels like I'm on the track with some really good drivers.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

That's still charted up as a loss even though you won the race? What a load of crap, it's not like you were disconnected mid-race. Game is dumb.

I didn't win, was 4th, the order screwed up when I got disconnected. Yet still 2K DR loss...

 

[sturk0167]

I haven't raced yet today, well not during day time that is, I finally got some rest instead! I'll be back racing in a bit. I actually did qualify yesterday. New mission parameters, complete a lap without ever touching any steering controls, only gas and reverse. Plus I was on the phone as well, added handicap. That turned out surprisingly tricky. First I got stuck at the container area, back and forth, back and forth, not getting the right angle after a bounce, getting reset backwards all the time.

After a lot of careful bouncing I finally managed to back up through the corner sequence for an easy drive to the hairpin at the pit stop area, where I got dead stuck. No amount of ramming, forward, reverse, run up would help get the car angled enough to get beyond the reset trigger. Finally a light bulb went off in my mind, I still had TCS on 2. TCS 0 did the trick, sort off. It still took a lot of trial and error to get the car spun right and get quick enough on reverse (car still has perfect traction control in reverse btw) to Work it into the pit entry corner and finally far enough around to beat the reset point.

Triumph, the rest of the track was easy. Finally after 36 minutes, 20 seconds, one completed phone call and 42 minutes, 25 seconds in penalties, I qualified without steering! This game is too easy, what do you need a wheel for

Actually I wondered if you could go beyond an hour. Yes, you can and the time still fits (barely) in the grid line up. Any potential wrap around point won't occur until almost 600 hours (where a 32 bit integer turns negative in milliseconds). I don't have that much patience. I could rubber band it next week and see if a 10 hour qualify time still fits on screen


TLDR GR.3 Tokyo South inner loop is not holding my attention as much... Needs GR.1!

That's awesome. I had a good laugh at that one.

I've got an idea for your next qualifying attempt. Feel free to use your steering wheel, but turn off your tv's display. Leave the volume up so you can hear the sound when you complete the lap. No tracks that are surrounded by walls, though. Maybe Willow Springs. 👍

 

[Rexracer702]

I haven't raced yet today, well not during day time that is, I finally got some rest instead! I'll be back racing in a bit. I actually did qualify yesterday. New mission parameters, complete a lap without ever touching any steering controls, only gas and reverse. Plus I was on the phone as well, added handicap. That turned out surprisingly tricky. First I got stuck at the container area, back and forth, back and forth, not getting the right angle after a bounce, getting reset backwards all the time.

After a lot of careful bouncing I finally managed to back up through the corner sequence for an easy drive to the hairpin at the pit stop area, where I got dead stuck. No amount of ramming, forward, reverse, run up would help get the car angled enough to get beyond the reset trigger. Finally a light bulb went off in my mind, I still had TCS on 2. TCS 0 did the trick, sort off. It still took a lot of trial and error to get the car spun right and get quick enough on reverse (car still has perfect traction control in reverse btw) to Work it into the pit entry corner and finally far enough around to beat the reset point.

Triumph, the rest of the track was easy. Finally after 36 minutes, 20 seconds, one completed phone call and 42 minutes, 25 seconds in penalties, I qualified without steering! This game is too easy, what do you need a wheel for

Actually I wondered if you could go beyond an hour. Yes, you can and the time still fits (barely) in the grid line up. Any potential wrap around point won't occur until almost 600 hours (where a 32 bit integer turns negative in milliseconds). I don't have that much patience. I could rubber band it next week and see if a 10 hour qualify time still fits on screen


TLDR GR.3 Tokyo South inner loop is not holding my attention as much... Needs GR.1!

Some people have too much time on their hands! I can see the benefits of not qualifying, though. Good DR points and my favorite part, coming up through the field. I got to do that in the B race a few times today, but only because I got punted an ended up in back. 3 times I got hit by a car that went off road and came back on the track. Usually an Audi causing the trouble. My DR score took a hit. Maybe Ill go learn the new track in arcade and start at the back so I can work on DR before I end up C again. Still SR-S at least. Much better racing up here.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Some people have too much time on their hands! I can see the benefits of not qualifying, though. Good DR points and my favorite part, coming up through the field. I got to do that in the B race a few times today, but only because I got punted an ended up in back. 3 times I got hit by a car that went off road and came back on the track. Usually an Audi causing the trouble. My DR score took a hit. Maybe Ill go learn the new track in arcade and start at the back so I can work on DR before I end up C again. Still SR-S at least. Much better racing up here.

While it is a lot fun, it certainly is no good for building DR. DR only changes based on your finish position. You take some points from the people you finish in front of, and give some to those you finish behind. Hence qualifying will always be better for DR. With one exception, if you start mid field and get punted in T1 every time, it's better to start behind the carnage.

It's also not all that good on SR, the more people you pass the more chance of running into a dirty driver. Which can also be beneficial. I briefly dropped to SR.A today after one of those races and there won the race from 15th starting position. Now that's fun

 

[Rexracer702]

I feel like it's easier to set a best time while waiting for a race. Today, I'm trying to get my time down on Race B. Couldn't break 2:12. Then first practice lap after entering a race, 2:11.711. Haven't got close since.

Anyways it got me P2. Surprisingly held on longer than I thought I would. But could never get in the groove. Untidy on the last lap. Finished 4th.

Races have been really clean for me on Suzuka. Feels like I'm on the track with some really good drivers.

I agree. I did a 13.5 to qualify. Got a best of 13.2 in the race. Think i had my best lap ever going waiting for the race, but they went to grid before I finished. Felt fast and smooth. One big arc through turn 1, on the gas early, nice line through the esses, hit the top of 4th gear sooner than ever, through the kink and up the curb a bit before the right and under the bridge. Saw the split and saw a 57 for the first time. Made it through spoon with speed, over 130 after the kink and...time to grid. Oh well, if I did it once. I'm determined to get a 2:10 by weeks end. I may have to break down and buy the Alfa and see how it goes. I know the Ferarri is capable of a 2:10, but judging by the videos, it looks like the Alfa holds a line better.*

 

[I_Leak_Oil]

That's still charted up as a loss even though you won the race? What a load of crap, it's not like you were disconnected mid-race. Game is dumb.

This really needs fixing soon as people will start leaving the game 👎

To help me cope I see the disconnects as a mechanical failure

 

[ARTAsean]

Man what the F have they done to Sport Mode. This is legitimately awful and the saddest state of the game I've seen yet. Speechless

Despite being A+ half the people I race with are DR D which means I get an effective +0 dr For a win, negative for a podium and quite easily lose 2K+ dr if I get taken out into the top 5 by no fault of my own. What's the point? Serious question.

They absolutely need to change the points judgement now that they've split the player pool almost by 50%

 

[Kalder]

This really needs fixing soon as people will start leaving the game 👎

To help me cope I see the disconnects as a mechanical failure

Haha, good one! Next time I get disconnected I'll tell myself that and see if it helps

 

[sundaydriving]

Man what the F have they done to Sport Mode. This is legitimately awful and the saddest state of the game I've seen yet. Speechless

Despite being A+ half the people I race with are DR D which means I get an effective +0 dr For a win, negative for a podium and quite easily lose 2K+ dr if I get taken out into the top 5 by no fault of my own. What's the point? Serious question.

They absolutely need to change the points judgement now that they've split the player pool almost by 50%

Agreed. Its been like this for a while though. At least you used to be guaranteed a full A+ lobby in FIA races but now I'm not so sure.

The further segmentation of the player base just makes this worse and its absolutely the wrong direction to be going in. More servers is good but forcing players onto those even when the match ups are poor is bad.

 

[Suntek]

Man what the F have they done to Sport Mode. This is legitimately awful and the saddest state of the game I've seen yet. Speechless

Despite being A+ half the people I race with are DR D which means I get an effective +0 dr For a win, negative for a podium and quite easily lose 2K+ dr if I get taken out into the top 5 by no fault of my own. What's the point? Serious question.

They absolutely need to change the points judgement now that they've split the player pool almost by 50%

Agreed. Its been like this for a while though. At least you used to be guaranteed a full A+ lobby in FIA races but now I'm not so sure.

The further segmentation of the player base just makes this worse and its absolutely the wrong direction to be going in. More servers is good but forcing players onto those even when the match ups are poor is bad.

It's been like that ever since swap to weekly from dailies, easy tho notice too.

Whatever the amount of people liked the weekly system, the total amount of people actually racing had dropped rapidly.
I don't even find it fun to as much race anymore when you get boring tracks for a whole week, sometimes same ones over and over. Couple that with what @ARTAsean mentions and you end up losing while winning..

 

[Melbourne Park]

Man what the F have they done to Sport Mode. This is legitimately awful and the saddest state of the game I've seen yet. Speechless

Despite being A+ half the people I race with are DR D which means I get an effective +0 dr For a win, negative for a podium and quite easily lose 2K+ dr if I get taken out into the top 5 by no fault of my own. What's the point? Serious question.

They absolutely need to change the points judgement now that they've split the player pool almost by 50%

Sorry you got hurt so badly - sound like a bug. i sometimes get mixed races but normally the fast drivers disappear pretty quickly. Maybe run safe on the bitumen with TC until there is a gap and then race as normal??

As far as 50% though - I ran the numbers for Australia versus Asia, but from the data that Kudos supply, which shows those that bought GT S - and they give a flat 6% of those who race more than 20 races - the percentage of owners of the game per nation are:
USA 14.2%
Mexico 0.7%
Argentina 1.1%
Brazil 2.3%

So those separated make up 4.1% of the sales of the game. While the USA has 14.2%.

So if you add the US to those 3 countries you get 18.3% of the worlds sales; the US's share of that 77.6% or 77%. So you've lost under one quarter, not one half.

Apologies to Canada too - but don't blame me.

Of course the likelihood is that those in Mexico, Argentina, Brazil and the rest of South America who bought the game, race on line more, or have raced more than 20 times more often than the USA buyers have. But then that may not be the case, I have no idea.

 

[GarikFirst]

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Haha I want to die

I got the same thing not long ago with VW Race A. It’s SR drop two blocks down and it’s initiate DR reset.

 

[05XR8]

Another 8 car grid Race A with two cars dropping out. I was the only B driver while the rest were D/S.

Wonder if people are making new accounts until something changes again.

 

[JC_Dude]

This is just amazing. Finally been able to get into a race (C). Got pulverized into the docks hairpin on lap 1, dropped from 2nd to 10th <insert obligatory 3.2s penalty>. Lap 2 I was in 7th, the driver in 6th was weaving all over the place, putting me into a wall whenever I wanted to pass them on a straight. Lap 4 I was passing into the docks hairpin and the opponent used me as a wall to help him turn <insert obligatory 3s penalty>. Otherwise a couple of wall grazes and I finished 4th. SR dropped from 51 to 39.

This game is bs.