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Hoof Arted
Thanks man! Early in the week is the best time to mess around and get good results with unconventional cars. I think the MR layout really suits the fast curvy bits of the track, so the McLaren on softs wasn't as bad as I thought and it has decent top-end speed. Yeah, I'm on CapraKiwi's friends list and he was in my first race so I probably made an appearance on his stream/youtube. In fact @CapraKiwi is a good example of how someone can gradually improve over time after switching off driving aids. His really early races he was low-mid DR-B using ASM, CSM, TC even on FWD cars! Now after switching them off he's low-Mid DR-A and doing well.

As for race C, I think the Huracan is a good hot-lap car but any 4WD or FF will struggle with tyrewear in race conditions. MR suits the fast curves and maybe the Cayman could no-stop (on softs?) as it's really good on tyres, but I'm not sure about it's speed on the straight. Not sure about FR cars, but the Aston, Jag, Mustang to name a few have good top speed but I'm unsure about tyres. Plenty of cars to try out!
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I managed a no stop on softs in the Honda, but lost about 3-4s on the last lap, tyre wear is better in the cayman but haven't tried it.
 
beegentoo
I decided to only set a time for Race A and to get used to the Tesla. At first it was more like a merry-fishtail-around but it got better from lap to lap once I managed to steer smoothly and brake or rather just lift before turns. 1:40 so far but I know there‘s some time left for me on the track.

Action for me was Race C. My Q-Lap is 2:11,4. So I started from the last third of the field for all three races.

The first one I started on softs with the Cayman and planned one stop. Wreckfest with a red S and many positions lost.

After seeing that PD put a generous of fuel in the tank and the very light tire wear I decided to run on mediums for Race 2 and 3. Both races made me gain 4 Positions and ended with a blue S.

Even though the last two races were quite successful I lost ~1200 DR today. Yesterday I was scratching about 20 points below the C-B threshold. Well, at least not one of these steep drops. I‘m quite pleased with todays result (considering the horror stories I read about C today).

What‘s really dissapointing is the choice of the META. All fields I joined today were about 75% Huracán. I understand that people want the best possible chances to win the race, but everybody driving the same car is kinda boring. PD should probably take the car chosen for the session into account when searching for opponents or (and this would make things interesting) limit a player to the car he used when setting his Q-Lap while also enforcing every driver to qualify.
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It takes long enough to qualify for 1 car. It's going to take me days to set 1 hour+ qualy times for all the cars!

The races I did so far had quite varied grids with the Corvette winning as much as the Huracan. SLS AMG won as well with an M4 right behind. I'll see what tonight brings. One stop of softs is the plan, then I get to over take even more cars!
 
Ive spent a bit of time of each track now and this the best I could do so far. I don’t know ow which race I like best, possibly C for the first time. I’ve yet to do a Race C because I don’t fully understand the strategy behind the pit stops and fuel/tire usage yet, I’ve only done them offline so far were you don’t have to be too conservative. Maybe this is the week, what’s the best car and strategy for race C?

I am liking the Tesla though, the track is a little tight for my liking for actual racing though. But driving the car is really cool, and quiet, and it’s weird not shifting gears too, but kinda relaxing at the same time. I can’t seem to stop driving it even though I probably won’t do a race with it. :)

I’d probably like race B the best honestly, but I just did the hour long race going the other direction to finish off my offline modes the other day so running it backwards feels odd right now lol. I don’t know which one to try haha. :)

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Ive spent a bit of time of each track now and this the best I could do so far. I don’t know ow which race I like best, possibly C for the first time. I’ve yet to do a Race C because I don’t fully understand the strategy behind the pit stops and fuel/tire usage yet, I’ve only done them offline so far were you don’t have to be too conservative. Maybe this is the week, what’s the best car and strategy for race C?

I am liking the Tesla though, the track is a little tight for my liking for actual racing though. But driving the car is really cool, and quiet, and it’s weird not shifting gears too, but kinda relaxing at the same time. I can’t seem to stop driving it even though I probably won’t do a race with it. :)

I’d probably like race B the best honestly, but I just did the hour long race going the other direction to finish off my offline modes the other day so running it backwards feels odd right now lol. I don’t know which one to try haha. :)

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I'll see you at race C on Thursday and Friday.
 
It would be cool if you could like or set your preferred/favorite players in matching. Of course they'd have to randomize the selection every round to keep things shaken.
But you'd play against others you like playing with more often.
Something like that might end up having an effect on SR SCORES (which may or may not be a good thing) and maybe DR which would be bad and gameable.

Im not digging the races this week. And only B really interests me because i know it in normal direction and it only took me 2 races and qualy attempts to set a competitive Q time.
I'll eventually do race C but i dont like gr4 cars on high speed courses.
Good seeing you last week @Sven Jurgens
Cool to you see you start last or close to it and then end up only 1 or 2 positions behind me at P4-7 on any given race. If I did well all race and made no or only 1 or two small mistakes.
You rule at makin your way up the field. Legendary.
 
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Hoof Arted
Thanks man! Early in the week is the best time to mess around and get good results with unconventional cars. I think the MR layout really suits the fast curvy bits of the track, so the McLaren on softs wasn't as bad as I thought and it has decent top-end speed. Yeah, I'm on CapraKiwi's friends list and he was in my first race so I probably made an appearance on his stream/youtube. In fact @CapraKiwi is a good example of how someone can gradually improve over time after switching off driving aids. His really early races he was low-mid DR-B using ASM, CSM, TC even on FWD cars! Now after switching them off he's low-Mid DR-A and doing well.

As for race C, I think the Huracan is a good hot-lap car but any 4WD or FF will struggle with tyrewear in race conditions. MR suits the fast curves and maybe the Cayman could no-stop (on softs?) as it's really good on tyres, but I'm not sure about it's speed on the straight. Not sure about FR cars, but the Aston, Jag, Mustang to name a few have good top speed but I'm unsure about tyres. Plenty of cars to try out!
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Good job improving, Kiwi!
Corvette is dominating the leaderboards here in America right now.
As for races, only did two of race a. I have win both. Got an ok amount of dr points because one of the drivers was S S.
I think I’ll want to try Race C again, with the Corvette or the Cayman!
 
Raced 2 B races tonight in the Ford GT. Started 8th and 9th, finished 6th and 7th. Got punted once in each race, but made a couple of legit passes, plus the usual crashes and offs to get back into the points. DR went up a couple of points, and with SR showing blue after both races I'm well into B and heading towards A again. Maybe try a C race tomorrow. Sounds like a no stop is possible with many cars. Maybe I'll drive the Hyundai since it is the first car I won, won with, got pole with and raced online with. Might bring some luck!
 
NosOsH
It would be cool if you could like or set your preferred/favorite players in matching. Of course they'd have to randomize the selection every round to keep things shaken.
But you'd play against others you like playing with more often.
Something like that might end up having an effect on SR SCORES (which may or may not be a good thing) and maybe DR which would be bad and gameable.

Im not digging the races this week. And only B really interests me because i know it in normal direction and it only took me 2 races and qualy attempts to set a competitive Q time.
I'll eventually do race C but i dont like gr4 cars on high speed courses.
Good seeing you last week @Sven Jurgens
Cool to you see you start last or close to it and then end up only 1 or 2 positions behind me at P4-7 on any given race. If I did well all race and made no or only 1 or two small mistakes.
You rule at makin your way up the field. Legendary.
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GR.4 on Tokyo is not so bad. Over taking keeps it interesting :) This one is quite different racing from the back than last week. Last week I could pit a lap early and skip half the backfield if it was too much of a mess. This week driving on softs is the best option to avoid people yet that requires a pit stop where I drop back up to 5 places. More to over take! Last race I finished 4th from 17th, 18 cars passed. The speed difference is pretty scary when you're back out on fresh softs and try to pass people doing a no stop on worn tires.

Check out this start. PD really knows how to up the adrenaline. Actually I was laughing all the way to T1 after a stalled car at the start put everything together. Going 5 wide into T1 actually went better than the average start :confused:
 
Sven Jurgens
GR.4 on Tokyo is not so bad. Over taking keeps it interesting :) This one is quite different racing from the back than last week. Last week I could pit a lap early and skip half the backfield if it was too much of a mess. This week driving on softs is the best option to avoid people yet that requires a pit stop where I drop back up to 5 places. More to over take! Last race I finished 4th from 17th, 18 cars passed. The speed difference is pretty scary when you're back out on fresh softs and try to pass people doing a no stop on worn tires.

Check out this start. PD really knows how to up the adrenaline. Actually I was laughing all the way to T1 after a stalled car at the start put everything together. Going 5 wide into T1 actually went better than the average start :confused:
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That race was insane. Whatever glitch happened had us about 7 wide at the start. The poor guy in the left most lane was auto driven into the pit haha.
 
Managed to get a 2:06 flat in the Huracan. I’m about .6 seconds slower in the M4, Viper, and GTR but was able to get some solid Ws with each of those tonight.

My favorite of the 3 is the M4. Plenty of lateral grip to keep pace with the Lambo in the curved section and as along as you can maintain a draftable gap there are plenty of opportunities for a win.

Looking forward to testing more Huracan slayers. I think I’ll check out some of the MR cars next.
 
Sven Jurgens
Check out this start. PD really knows how to up the adrenaline. Actually I was laughing all the way to T1 after a stalled car at the start put everything together. Going 5 wide into T1 actually went better than the average start :confused:
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What I love about this is despite how horribly congested it gets everyone looks to at least be trying to keep it clean. The video does demonstrate how hard that is as penalties are still being handed out, but great to see anyway!
 
Pelikan
Managed to get a 2:06 flat in the Huracan. I’m about .6 seconds slower in the M4, Viper, and GTR but was able to get some solid Ws with each of those tonight.

My favorite of the 3 is the M4. Plenty of lateral grip to keep pace with the Lambo in the curved section and as along as you can maintain a draftable gap there are plenty of opportunities for a win.

Looking forward to testing more Huracan slayers. I think I’ll check out some of the MR cars next.
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Try the Ferrari. It seemed pretty good around the twisty bits, and I think it will have enough speed on the straights to keep up. Not sure how it will be on tyres though. Everyone in the race I tried last night was racing Huracan's or Cayman's. I was going to try the Aston, Jag and Corvette in the race (all good in a straight line), but I think the tyre wear will be too high.
 
I have to share my noob first attempts at Race C.

1. Not knowing why I was struggling for qualifying pace before realising I was on hard tyres.
2. Spend the first 4 laps of my first race fuel saving. Before realising that was a waste of time (literally).
3. Not understanding why I was losing so much time to the leaders, before realising they were no stopping.

As per last week my SR has taken a hit due to clumsyness and some weirdo who took furious exception to my tapping him into turn 1 (I backed out of it so as to not overtake, he didn't lose any positions). He spent the rest of the race barging into me that of course hit my SR and gave me the odd penalty.

I'm enjoying race C much more than I thought I would though. I feel I have good pace and currently sat on 29,818 driver points I'm wondering if I could maybe make the jump to DR A for the first time :eek: I'm sure it will all go horribly wrong though! And if I do, it will only be a temporary visit I'm sure!
 
watto79
I have to share my noob first attempts at Race C.

1. Not knowing why I was struggling for qualifying pace before realising I was on hard tyres.
2. Spend the first 4 laps of my first race fuel saving. Before realising that was a waste of time (literally).
3. Not understanding why I was losing so much time to the leaders, before realising they were no stopping.

As per last week my SR has taken a hit due to clumsyness and some weirdo who took furious exception to my tapping him into turn 1 (I backed out of it so as to not overtake, he didn't lose any positions). He spent the rest of the race barging into me that of course hit my SR and gave me the odd penalty.

I'm enjoying race C much more than I thought I would though. I feel I have good pace and currently sat on 29,818 driver points I'm wondering if I could maybe make the jump to DR A for the first time :eek: I'm sure it will all go horribly wrong though! And if I do, it will only be a temporary visit I'm sure!
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Haha, this is the one race where you want to burn off as much fuel as you can to lighten the car. Gas fully pressed revving before the launch (not sure if that actually helps) and long shifting? I guess I should try a few of the least fuel efficient cars. Which is probably why the BMW M4 does well in this race against the Huracan. The M4, the least fuel efficient of GR.4, only does 189.4km on a tank vs 233.3km for the Huracan. The M4 will be significantly lighter at the end. The McLaren is the second least fuel efficient. Lancer Evo is most efficient at 270km, quite a difference.
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Anyone got other non Meta cars, that are good over the race distance for Race C, just tried out the BMW M4 and managed 2nd. Could have been closer but I lost the tow to the leader trying not to get destroyed in the early stages I was 3rd on the grid using the time set in the Lambo. Trying the Mustang next, no idea how the tires will stand up. I have been one stopping at the end of the forth lap, going soft to soft.
 
Jag, Aston, Corvette, GTR & Veyron all hit 166mph on the straight (no slipstream) so might be worth a look. Isn't much difference in tyre wear between them all but tbh I think any car will struggle against the Cayman and Huracan. Ferrari is really good on the twisty bits and hits 164mph on straight so it is the same speed as the Cayman, but tyre wear is again the big issue. M4 only hits 162mph on the straight by comparison.
 
for my first race C of the week yesterday, the guy behind me kept on diving me... 12s penalty seemed not enough for him.............................................................................
 
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Anyone got other non Meta cars, that are good over the race distance for Race C, just tried out the BMW M4 and managed 2nd. Could have been closer but I lost the tow to the leader trying not to get destroyed in the early stages I was 3rd on the grid using the time set in the Lambo. Trying the Mustang next, no idea how the tires will stand up. I have been one stopping at the end of the forth lap, going soft to soft.
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The Ferrari can do the full race without stopping, gets passed on the long straights by seemingly most of the cars, but will keep up nicely in the slipstream. I drove around at the back trying to protect my SR, but the guy who won used this strategy.
 
Why do some people not like using the META car for a track? If it’s the best tool available, why would you not use it? You wouldn’t drive a nail with a screw driver would you? So why would you not use the best car for a given track? The theory just doesn’t make sense to me lol.
 
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Does anyone know why the penalties for race C are so strict? Race B seems more lenient but I can't see any difference in the settings. :odd: Has this track always been so eager to give out penalties?

Race B is usually the worst of the two for SR down when playing gt league in sport mode but not this week.
 
Three attempts at Race C last night. All of these stories were in a Huracan, running soft/soft and pitting on lap 4:

Race 1: Qualified 7th after one lap gave me a 2:12. Two leaders got away after the inevitable banging through the first lap (a B/C lobby) and I was running close with a TT in 4th. The TT went on as I pitted. I caught up rapidly over the next three laps, although I did have to serve ~8 seconds of penalties at some point, at the end of the straight. 3rd place Huracan slowed up and let me past after the first two turns on lap 7 - he'd tried to no-stop on softs. I noticed as the lap went on that the gap to the leaders was closing (from ~9 seconds) and saw them going really slowly out of the final right hander before the hairpin, bumping each other as they were trying to drive straight. Out of the final corner the TT (no-stopping on hards, and with no front tyres left) drifted wide left and was out of it, I was chasing another Huracan. He had 0.2 seconds of penalties to serve, I was ~3 tenths behind but not really gaining. He slowed up at the line and I managed to hit him as I was trying to slipstream, and after watching it back I don't know how, because he was still ghosted when the contact happened. Won by 0.79 seconds. First win in a long time.

Race 2: Pole with a 2:07.9, trading the lead with another Huracan after we got a bit of a gap to the pack. He was following me because he sensibly realised I was faster through the twisty bits. When we pitted I served ~4 seconds of penalty on exit, as a bunch of Porsches went past on a no-stop. Thinking of the three lane-wide track, I was effectively on the left line as it shifts going up to the first corner and this clown in a Huracan no-stopping passes me on my left. Race ruined as he tries to keep me behind him over the next lap or so. I finished 4th, he finished in about 10th.

Race 3: Pole with a 2:07.7 (I think, I've got 2:06.9 in my optimum after ~10 qualifying laps). A bunch of Porsches behind me and one sort of follows me a bit closer for the whole race. He got a bit closer through the twisty bits by a second or so each time but the Huracan has better acceleration and top speed, so on the straights there's nothing. Two Porsches tried no-stopping and I got lucky and got a slipstream for about 75% of the straight and went straight through the middle of them before the first corner. 2nd place caught me up a bit as I wavered with bottling it but held on. Checked today and me DR went up by ~8000 points, that's nice with the FIA races back this week.

My impressions after that is that there's a good mixture of strategy and competitive cars to use this week. The only thing, and I realise in B and lower level lobbies this might be more common, is that you can't try to be a hero during the back section of the circuit. You won't win on lap 2 when you're trying to keep someone obviously quicker behind you, since you can't pass cleanly anywhere at racing speed. Factor in that and the different strategies available, and it's a great race combination I'll enjoy a lot this week. Can't wait to get my qualifying lap under 2:07.
 
Just the one go at Race C this lunch time. Didn't qualify as usual and started 16th in a grid made of A/S to B/S, with a couple of C/S.

Medium tires, Viper GR.4. No fuel saving and fastest lap being in the mid 12's.

A few unclean drivers in the mix, but managed to miss them all. I saw a few cars with 20+ seconds worth of penalties after just 2 laps!

Finished 4th, and only one of 2 drivers with no red dot at the end. Gained 731 DR points.

The Viper ain't gonna win (in my hands), but it's an easy, quick drive around the circuit.
 
Been trying Race B but I'm just not fast enough I guess. One try last night, one this morning.

With my QT 02:01.697, starts have been from near the back and about 2-3 seconds behind the last pack. I feel really slow compared to everyone else. I'm probably being too cautious/timid.

Really have to work on a faster time to get higher starts. Starting the race before clearing the S turn really sucks. :yuck:
 
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