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Pigems
Haha Busted!! Very nice lap! You’ve got me by 14 seconds, all I’ll be seeing is your tail lights in the distance, if I’m lucky lol. :)

TY Sir, what a difference in this wheel and I haven’t even finished a lap yet. I must have been losing soo much feel before to gear chatter, I can feel the tires slip or lock up now so easily. But I have to learn to how drive all over again, I can’t even keep the car on the track right now because everything feels so different, mostly the pedals, I might have to wear shoes now lol. :)
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I can imagine, using a different DS4 already makes me unsteady initially. Phew, I 'only' lost 1200 DR from that disconnect, still DR.A. 5 SR down as well but that's easy to recover. At least I still get to race at least once as A/S (knock on wood) Dog first. Good luck!
 
First race with qualifying, starting 4th. The Brazilian behind me punts me wide in T minus one. The car behind him takes advantage and now we're 3 wide towards T1, I get bumped into the wall into 6th. Off the pace I fall to 7th. 8th bumps me into the grass right after the slight right. I can't brake for the chicane because of that and fall to 12th. Still gathering pace, 13th bumps me off in the slight right towards Flugplatz, I spin, end up 16th, 10 seconds behind everyone. I finish 13th. Lost 7 SR, down to 88 and hanging onto DR.A by 28 points.... :mad:

Thus, not qualifying -> last to 4th. qualifying -> 4th to last.

Second attempt, on pole now with a SR.A Argentinian behind me :irked: The Argentinian bumps me in T-2, again in T-1, then bumps me so hard in T1 we both end up in the wall. I drop to 6th. I keep my head cool, get in second before karoussel and stick like glue on first. I barely manage to draft next to him on the straight (damn AT) yet have the inside. We take the first left side by side after which he concedes the position. Triple star victory. +5 SR, bit less than 600 DR gained.

3rd race, back in the 90's SR range, starting 4th. All Americans behind me, perhaps this time I'll survive longer than T minus one. It turns into a parade. The Canadian in front of me is stunt driving, sliding around most corners, can't pass that safely. He messes up before the final straight so I pass which is only to his advantage. He draft passes me on the straight, does some more stunt driving in the final section for which I have to brake extra. The car behind me bumps me into the stuntman and into the grass, stuntman and American behind me get a 3 sec penalty, I finish 3rd with clean race bonus.

Race 4, on pole. An American, I know to be dirty at times, is starting behind me. Perhaps he has changed his ways... He bumped me in the first section, SR Down, clean streak reset. Then he narrowly missed me at Aremberg and went wide. I took the rest a bit too easy as he caught back up. I almost messed up at Pflanzgarten and he eagerly tried to pass bumping me into the grass. He got a 5 sec penalty, served it in front of me, so I passed and had him on my tail on the straight where he started draft bumping me, SR Down. Ticked off I blocked him when it seemed like he wanted to pass. It turns out he just wanted to draft bump again. He messaged after the race, seems he has changed his ways. Anyway turned out he still had 2 seconds of penalty left (not visible in the rear view mirror) so I blocked for nothing. red S, yet another win. Anyway he's off my 'bad' list, just over eager.

Race 5, starting 3rd. Alien alert, hopefully I can hang on to 3rd. Nope I can't. A Canadian bumps me into the wall and the American behind him squeezes through as well. The penalty system does nothing. I hang onto 5th until the end. +2 SR, 95 now. One more to get back to 99.

Race 6 (last one?), starting 4th. The line up looks safe. Clean race bonus? Not quite. Third goes wide and spins, then 2nd goes wide into a wall, so by Kallenhard I'm left to chasing the alien in first. Unfortunately I go wide at the bridge, a little too far onto the sidewalk for that specific 0.406 penalty while losing time. I finish 1.1 sec behind first (2.1 with rounded up penalty), he seemed to be taking it easy in the later half. SR back to 99, DR a little buffer into DR.A at 32.5k.

Fun racing, just don't start too early at night.
 
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I’d bet money Suzuka will be the Integra.
Looking forward to GP. Great track there. I think I am gonna qual for the mountain. If I do race off hours it will prevent getting stuck in the beginning...
If not the Honda the 86 is fun at Suzuka, but maybe we need the 4c?

@Pigems
How do you like the pedals? If you wanted to, how close could you adjust brake and throttle?
 
Sven Jurgens
The Canadian in front of me is stunt driving, sliding around most corners, can't pass that safely. He messes up before the final straight so I pass which is only to his advantage. He draft passes me on the straight, does some more stunt driving in the final section for which I have to brake extra. The car behind me bumps me into the stuntman and into the grass, stuntman and American behind me get a 3 sec penalty, I finish 3rd with clean race bonus.
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it's not stunt driving. :D it's the fastest way around the ring (for me). what you saw was my timing being just slightly off and a little excessive shenanigas were the result. your race 5 was much better for me.
 
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it's not stunt driving. :D it's the fastest way around the ring (for me). what you saw was my timing being just slightly off and a little excessive shenanigas were the result. your race 5 was much better for me.
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Ha, with a bit of lag you're blowing up sand everywhere and going 45 degrees halfway through the track, half on the grass ;) Too bad you went off in my last race, we'll battle again another day!
 
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I feel like the game is implementing a market correction on my DR. My qualifying time for Race C is 2:03.1 and Race A is 1:30.1 Neither of which I would consider bad times. But finally jumping into Race C and I'm starting one from the back and both my Race A's I'm starting at best two from the back.

All my races last night went badly and I just did not feel competitive against the field. I'm not about winning at all (12 wins in 426 races!) but I at least would like to feel I can hold my own.

I'm wondering if my DR is higher than it should be thanks to a few track/car combinations that worked for me. It could also be the time of day I'm playing at the moment. Ah well, back to practising.
 
After having driven the Nordschleiffe almost daily for the last couple of weeks, I did some serious car testing for all N100 to N300 and a couple of Gr.4 (BoP) cars on it I decided race B might be a race to try last night. I started with qualifying, had about 15 minutes before race start so off I went: first lap a 7:58.xxx driving a bit in cruise mode, second lap I pushed a little more and time dropped to 7:46.xxx.

Surprisingly that gave me P2 in the race, 6 seconds slower than P1 and 1.2 to 4 seconds faster then P3-P5.
In the race I got bumped by P3 going into T-3, tried to avoid contact with P1 but toughed him because, obviously, he turned in, he wasn't expecting a divebomb (me) in that corner. He went into the grass and lost 5 places so I decided to carry on and that if he is able to catch up to me I will give him position back.

It went alright going through the first corner section onto the high speed part, created a little gap but lost it again because I braked to hard into the long fast right hander leading onto the high speed section, by the time I reached the tricky high speed left hander leading up to the hard breaking zone P2 decided to put some paint on my rear bumper which sent me off track, luckily I was still well before the breaking zone so was able to reduce my speed enough for a safe re-entry and corner entry but by the time I reached the tarmac again I was in P4, after that it was a pretty uneventful race, I tried to make a move on P3 but he aggressively defended so I decided to back off and hope for a mistake.

Finished the race in 4th place where I was ranked 15th so a good 510 DR points and a blue S. I think I'll try to shave off some time to get a better qualifying and hope for a pole or two and will try a couple more daily race B races this weekend.

Bathurst in Gr.3 is, well let's leave it at: not my favorite combo, I'll try some time trials but a race at night is not for me.
 
Sven Jurgens
When Mount Panorama was on previously I did an insane marathon run all Saturday long with my typical from the back racing. 80% of the times I got rammed off was by someone driving the GT-R. I've grown to hate that car :mad: This week the GT-R was also responsible for most of my punts, however they are suddenly far more common so it's not that surprising this time.




Why so slow! At least Big Willow is finally back, 5 laps, only rooms of max 12, N300, you're killing me PD. I want GR.1 daily C back on Big Willow!
Suzuka again, now in slow motion, comfort tires lol.
NGP not my favorite, the boring part of N24 like driving Brand's hatch indy instead of the full circuit.

I guess I'll race every moment I can find this week!




Just google a map with the corner names and pretend you know a lot about the track. That's what I do.




Oh, there are plenty people that do, the sparks look nice at night time. I lift as well for the last 2 corners at Skyline, big risk, tiny reward.
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getting fed up with the number of one make races, i prefer proper group races, shame they can't have three group races and three one make races.
 
Started 3rd at the Nurburgring. Pass into second at the first corner, spun off 2:30 in at Adenauer Forst, dropped back to third. Now four seconds off the leader. Passed second on the long uphill straight after Bergwerk. Progressively chipped away at the 4 second gap to the leader until I passed into the lead at the start of the backstraight. Won with a time of 8:04.1. Will upload this weekend.
 
watto79
I feel like the game is implementing a market correction on my DR. My qualifying time for Race C is 2:03.1 and Race A is 1:30.1 Neither of which I would consider bad times. But finally jumping into Race C and I'm starting one from the back and both my Race A's I'm starting at best two from the back.

All my races last night went badly and I just did not feel competitive against the field. I'm not about winning at all (12 wins in 426 races!) but I at least would like to feel I can hold my own.

I'm wondering if my DR is higher than it should be thanks to a few track/car combinations that worked for me. It could also be the time of day I'm playing at the moment. Ah well, back to practising.
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That's nuts, your comment is exactly what I was feeling about my own driving. Not near your quali times I've 312 races and only 1 win so obviously not about winning. Generally when I'm DR C I qualify in the top half, not usually top 5 but at least top half, of the field and make up places to finish well and feel competitive. Last week I had a great run and DR went up. This week I can't qualify to save my life, keep having horrible races at the back end of a field of pin ball racers and DR is through the floor (Low C again). The odd thing is though, I'm nearly glad my DR is down and SR still S. At times when I'm DR B one week because I had a good car and track combination the previous one I feel I am over ranked and the GT Sport system quickly brings me back to reality. My low DR C now means next week when we get to Nubry GB with a Gr3 car, a combo I'm familar and comfortable with, I may be competitive in a DR D / DR C field instead of getting my arse kicked in a DR B.;)

To make everyone else here feel better about themselves today: last night on Bathurst I finally got a decent grid place; 8th in the F Type. Ran softs and was 7th with a 10.5 sec lead over 8th by lap 5 and went to pit. Not being used to Daily C using the wheel I flustered and hit the wrong button when I went into the pits...told the crew not to put on fresh tyres. So, pit again or finish 9 laps on 1 set of softs? Lap 6 went OK, Lap 7 was thinking this is actually possible...lap 8 was like driving on ice. Hit the hazards and tried to stay off the racing line (not possible on the dipper) and eventually had to pit having lost a bundle of time and now with only 1 lap to go.:banghead:
 
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Groundfish
I’d bet money Suzuka will be the Integra.
Looking forward to GP. Great track there. I think I am gonna qual for the mountain. If I do race off hours it will prevent getting stuck in the beginning...
If not the Honda the 86 is fun at Suzuka, but maybe we need the 4c?

@Pigems
How do you like the pedals? If you wanted to, how close could you adjust brake and throttle?
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Please not the 4C lol, I suck with that car haha. But we’ve had the 86 way to much lately too so I’ll take the Integra. :)

They are really nice, quite a bit stiffer then my old ones which took a few minutes to get used too but I really like them. The brake pedal doesn’t have a side to side adjustment but both the clutch and gas pedal can be moved side to Side with the adjustment screws so they could probably be put fairly close together. They don’t feel too far apart though, I’ll probably leave the spacing as is for now. :)
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sorry to hear mate... i made a similar mistake as well. After getting a not very bad qualification time. i decided to go mediums on front and soft on rear tyres. Man! absolutelly the worst choice I ever did in my GT Sport career. Stability of the car was so low and with the carnage, I dropped so many SR. I could not resist and quit the race which I am not generally intended to. Whatever the issue, finish the race. Simply, simply terrible.


6BK
That's nuts, your comment is exactly what I was feeling about my own driving. Not near your quali times I've 312 races and only 1 win so obviously not about winning. Generally when I'm DR C I qualify in the top half, not usually top 5 but at least top half, of the field and make up places to finish well and feel competitive. Last week I had a great run and DR went up. This week I can't qualify to save my life, keep having horrible races at the back end of a field of pin ball racers and DR is through the floor (Low C again). The odd thing is though, I'm nearly glad my DR is down and SR still S. At times when I'm DR B one week because I had a good car and track combination the previous one I feel I am over ranked and the GT Sport system quickly brings me back to reality. My low DR C now means next week when we get to Nubry GB with a Gr3 car, a combo I'm familar and comfortable with, I may be competitive in a DR D / DR C field instead of getting my arse kicked in a DR B.;)

To make everyone else here feel better about themselves today: last night on Bathurst I finally got a decent grid place; 8th in the F Type. Ran softs and was 7th with a 10.5 sec lead over 8th by lap 5 and went to pit. Not being used to Daily C using the wheel I flustered and hit the wrong button when I went into the pits...told the crew not to put on fresh tyres. So, pit again or finish 9 laps on 1 set of softs? Lap 6 went OK, Lap 7 was thinking this is actually possible...lap 8 was like driving on ice. Hit the hazards and tried to stay off the racing line (not possible on the dipper) and eventually had to pit having lost a bundle of time and now with only 1 lap to go.:banghead:
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watto79
I feel like the game is implementing a market correction on my DR. My qualifying time for Race C is 2:03.1 and Race A is 1:30.1 Neither of which I would consider bad times. But finally jumping into Race C and I'm starting one from the back and both my Race A's I'm starting at best two from the back.

All my races last night went badly and I just did not feel competitive against the field. I'm not about winning at all (12 wins in 426 races!) but I at least would like to feel I can hold my own.

I'm wondering if my DR is higher than it should be thanks to a few track/car combinations that worked for me. It could also be the time of day I'm playing at the moment. Ah well, back to practising.
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It's one of the flaws in matchmaking, if you're a bit slower you will be used as a grid filler for the top drivers. Lowering your SR puts you against slightly slower drivers and gives you a better race but what you need to do to get there is a bit questionable.
 
gismanps
sorry to hear mate... i made a similar mistake as well. After getting a not very bad qualification time. i decided to go mediums on front and soft on rear tyres. Man! absolutelly the worst choice I ever did in my GT Sport career. Stability of the car was so low and with the carnage, I dropped so many SR. I could not resist and quit the race which I am not generally intended to. Whatever the issue, finish the race. Simply, simply terrible.
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Yeh, when I was sitting in the pits for the 2nd time at the end of lap 8 actually getting the tyres fitted I laughed thinking most other players would have quit at that point. I take part in endurance sports events in real life so the idea of giving up is not in my vocabulary.
 
So I just lost 2000 DR in 1 race (went from C to D), finished 12/16 at Nurburgring in a mixed DR C/D group.

What ?
 
6BK
Yeh, when I was sitting in the pits for the 2nd time at the end of lap 8 actually getting the tyres fitted I laughed thinking most other players would have quit at that point. I take part in endurance sports events in real life so the idea of giving up is not in my vocabulary.
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If you give up, you only have to wait longer for the next race!


AK84LFC
So I just lost 2000 DR in 1 race (went from C to D), finished 12/16 at Nurburgring in a mixed DR C/D group.

What ?
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You lost 500 DR in the race. When you gain or lose a class you get or lose an extra 1500 points. When you get back to DR.C you get that 1500 points back.
 
No racing in the evening for me yesterday, spent it with the wife since we are not home together all that much threw the week. I did however manage to get under 1.30 on race A and under 8.00 on race B. So i achieved my two goals for the day at least.

No more races at the ring today. I am really enjoying getting to know it, but the extra weight in the races is just to much for me to adjust to. The car pushes so much more i just end up off the track.

I think this morning before work is going to be race A only. I need to get my dr back up a bit. I might try race C....
 
AK84LFC
Did not know that, thank you !
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It is quite clever actually. If you go up a class and only just scrape in, for example going from 9,950 points and getting 60 for a race you are going up from DR C to B. To avoid you dropping straight back down and give you a chance to survive in B you are given a buffer so even if the first couple of races are poor you don't drop.
 
While racing on early morning lobbies allows for a fast track to the 91 SM wins trophy, night lobbies are a different kind of beast as it's where the fast guys come in for some heated fun. In the 20:30 Room Race C for example, my 2:00.996 gets me a 7th place in the starting grid on a lobby filled with A+, A, and B rated drivers. Then suddenly one of the faster B rated guys got kicked out, allowing me to be promoted to 6th for the start. The race is a tale of me taking advantage of people's mistakes and moving up the pack in my Getrag Corvette while under attack from one of the Beetles. On Lap 2 or 3 saw an incident at The Chase as Bspec-_-Bob, now in his proper Aussie account, went off and I went up into 5th. Then come on Lap 4 as we head down Forrest's Elbow when the Chinese in a Vantage was decidedly angry and pins me into the wall, subsequently giving him a 4 second penalty as I went for the undercut. After that, it's the matter of defending 3rd to the end, and I did! The polesitter was one of those who are in the exclusive 1:59 club, and he is in the F-type attempting a no-stop, which didn't work as some iRacing oval pro in a GT-R destroyed him with his 1 stop strategy in the end.
 
Sven Jurgens
I managed to reach my goal of getting back to DR.A without qualifying. The last few hundred points were brutal, especially since it was during dirty hour. The last race that put me over the edge was clean, or at least I did not get bumped off. It helped I actually got to start last (very rare) which rules out getting punted off before Flugplatz. I got a 4th place finish after a tight final section.
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The difference between DT Gardens without qualifying and Nordschleife.
One day of stagnation when I got in a series of dirty Mount Panorama races, Nordschleife to the rescue.


Patience pays off on the Nordschleife.
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I, for one, found that video very educational. I find myself looking at the map a lot when I run the Nord. The areas I watch for are the braking areas off of high speed parts, and the high speed parts that you don't need the brakes. You see, I am learning the track, but get "lost" sometimes, and the map helps. After watching that I realize that I might do OK if I just keep it on the road. My favorite part was at the beginning of the lefts leading to the main straight when you backed off the gas to get a gap so you could accelerate and get a drive onto the straight. Gotta keep your head and not let adrenaline take over (I keep telling myself) .
No racing or practice for me last night. Power (and cable) went out so I was sitting in the dark. Hope to run some laps tonight. We'll see about a race...Work tomorrow, though, so time is limited.
 
I seem to recall someone posting that watching the Daytona 24h would give someone insight into racing. I beg to differ. Those IMSA guys are really *really* bad drivers. At Longbeach last year the all drove in the wrong direction! This was evidenced by the traffic lights facing the other way. And. And! Not a single driver signalled at the roundabout!!! Those guys should all have their licence revoked!!!

Anyhoo, I guess I was too tired to post a race report last night. Last night I did Race C in the M3. I started P7/18 (with my Beetle time on softs) on a mixed grid of DR/S-D and SR/S-C.

Race starts and it's chaos. I don't remember much, but I do remember I was still struggling to get a handle on the M3 on mediums, despite the tyre wear gauge showing not huge wear by lap 5, I was all over the place, and I have a vague recollection of being mugged by a Ferrari. The experience was a bit like a visit to the proctologist with out any lube... :crazy:. I pitted lap 5 and went out again on mediums. I finished P9.

Not the best race, but I did finish with a blue SR and could kinda see where I was going for a change. SR put me back into SR/S, and DR went up about 450, so better than I have been doing lately. After the race I tried a few cars to figure out what I was gunna drive for the rest of the week. The R8 had good lighting... even better when I changed to clear lenses. The 'vette could also light the way. The Viper I'd liked to have run... but it's lights are crap. The 911 has good lights with clear lenses. So the R8 was my victim for tonight... after spending a couple of hours attempting to put together the livery.. a Gr3 R8 is *not* a Group C VK Commodore!

I was able to beat my WRX time on hards, and optimum was a few tenths faster than the time I set with the Beetle. I started P11/17 on a mixed grid of DR and SR. I was the only SR/S.

The race started off well. By lap 2 I was up to P8. Lap 3 I was side by side down Conrod, and instead of backing off at the kink, straitlined it through the sand :banghead:. Things kinda went downhill from there. The handling on dirty tyres meant i went off again. I lost more time trying to scrub the tyres clean. I was so far behind that I just kept going and focused on staying on the track. I stuffed up the dipper a couple of times, spun out, and eventually finished P12. Oddly the last couple of laps felt reasonably comfortable despite the fact I'd done a no stop. I just didn't feel I could afford to pit unless I wanted to finish P17/17.

SR went up by 4, despite the rammings from impatient people :crazy:. DR dropped about 50ish. All in all things could have been worse :dopey:. Another day above DR 1 :odd:.
 
watto79
I feel like the game is implementing a market correction on my DR. My qualifying time for Race C is 2:03.1 and Race A is 1:30.1 Neither of which I would consider bad times. But finally jumping into Race C and I'm starting one from the back and both my Race A's I'm starting at best two from the back.

All my races last night went badly and I just did not feel competitive against the field. I'm not about winning at all (12 wins in 426 races!) but I at least would like to feel I can hold my own.

I'm wondering if my DR is higher than it should be thanks to a few track/car combinations that worked for me. It could also be the time of day I'm playing at the moment. Ah well, back to practising.
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Our pace and win ratio is remarkably similar. i am done for the week (Friday through sunday I watch horrible tv with wife rather than play) and finished at a 2.03.1 and have 24 wins from near 500 races. I am on 23K DR, capped out at 25K then was reset and slowly climbing back but this is where i belong. Weird thing is, same qualy time and i was placed 2nd for my last race :)

S SR driving at bathurst has been strong.
 
NevilleNobody
Our pace and win ratio is remarkably similar. i am done for the week (Friday through sunday I watch horrible tv with wife rather than play) and finished at a 2.03.1 and have 24 wins from near 500 races. I am on 23K DR, capped out at 25K then was reset and slowly climbing back but this is where i belong. Weird thing is, same qualy time and i was placed 2nd for my last race :)

S SR driving at bathurst has been strong.
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Where your qualy time puts you on the grid can be so random sometimes! In previous weeks my unchanged time has put me anywhere from pole to last. It just seems that this week it's always at or very near the back. It does seem that SR rankings can be a much better indicator of race pace than DR.

Anyway, enjoy your weekend of horrible tv :lol:
 
I did find when my SR hit 99 i was being annihilated by strong drivers even though they were DR B like i was. Starting 10th to 15th and gaining little to nothing even keeping my nose 100% clean.

Winning is seriously difficult because one or two guys are just SO FAR ahead on pace. At bathurst i have had 6 top 5 finishes including two second places but closest i got was 15 seconds from winner who's pole time was in the 2.01's.
 
I finally got the kitchen sink unplugged, took 3 days, dredging crap out the top, 3 different chemicals, 2 plungers, 2 plumbing snakes, 2 different access ports, just pushing the clog further down until it was at least 15 feet down the pipe under the floor. Persistence and patience paid off, I can wash the dishes again, hurray, hmm. So fun being an adult.

Back to racing. 11:30 race, started on pole. A Brazilian behind me, SR.A, however I don't recognize his name so I assume he's clean. He is. He hangs on until the Karoussel where I get out of draft range. Easy 3 star victory with 3 second lead in the end. Very different with no one to pass.

11:50 race, pole again, in front of a guy who's been telling me to qualify. I'm not very fast yet at the first section nor dialed in to brake points for starting on pole. He makes a great pass on me out of the right on the way to Flugplatz. Unfortunately he bins it later at Metzgesfeld and I get a small lead while the cars behind me are tangling with a 1 bar Argentinian. The Argentinian catches up and somehow closes a 1.2 sec gap on the straight to less than half a sec (AT hurts). I'm paying too much attention in the rearview mirror and go off at the end, probably good as he hits the wall right behind me. I would have been punted othewise. Another win instead, only 2 stars this time.

12:10 Rematch, except now I'm starting 3rd. Ugh, this time I bin it at Metzgesfeld. I drop to 6th. I make back one position during the race and finish 5th.

!2:30 Last one for now. The actual rematch, staring on pole, same driver behind me as in the 11:50 race. He puts on some great clean pressure all race long. Then at the straight I'm only 0.6 sec ahead, that's it for me I think. However he's using AT as well and can't quite get overlap before the turn. Another victory.

Great (extended) lunch break, back to adulting.
 
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