"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[stpatty]

I didn't realise Race C had a tyre choice, it's now basically impossible to compete using a DS4.

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

I didn't realise Race C had a tyre choice, it's now basically impossible to compete using a DS4.

No it's not impossible. I'm using a DS4, running the Porsche with hard fronts and medium rears. When starting from the back, around position 16 to 18, I have been finishing 7th and up.

When using my qualifying account (2:09:xx), I'm starting 4th to 7th, and either maintaining position or gaining a place or two. I'm a B/S driver.

Sure, I'm not gonna win but I'm fairly competitive with my set up of Porsche and DS4.

 

[Turbotwin01]

May have already been asked or said but with Race A in the Roadster I find I am faster than everybody by a fraction and I'm not sure it isn't the fact that I use an H-Shifter and out shift. Same thing happened with the Fugu Z a while back but I had good luck with the FD with paddle shifts (all these were at Tsukuba too).

 

[K1LLD0z3R]

May have already been asked or said but with Race A in the Roadster I find I am faster than everybody by a fraction and I'm not sure it isn't the fact that I use an H-Shifter and out shift. Same thing happened with the Fugu Z a while back but I had good luck with the FD with paddle shifts (all these were at Tsukuba too).

Yes the H-shifter makes for quicker shifts. That’s if you’re good at it, which I am not. So I’ll just continue to paddle away.

 

[gtpierre]

I did 3 race B yesterday. The 2and 3rd race went well with good racing but the first went pretty bad.

I started 9th with a 1.334 Quali. I started well, and managed to pass several people, including a yellow maclaren from a something-dragon guy. I was 7th catching up with the 6th arriving at turn 11 (bico de pato). The maclaren arrived full speed and hit a ford GT, me and another guy, sending me spining in the grass... By the time i can control my car again, the game resets me on the track, in 11th...
Obviously, this guy decided to disconnect just after his made his mess; I managed to get one or two spots before the end.

Watching the replay, I was really mad because 1) I did not even touch this guy 2) My pace after this incident would have put me in 3rd or 4th spot.

Luckily, after the other two races, I was back above 15K DR and SR99. All my bad races have happened before 7.30pm. I think from now on, I will skip playing during the 6.30-7.30pm period.

 

[O604]

Tried a race at Interlagos. Was not ready. Need some more practice.

QT 1:34.5. Started 11th. Hit a car going too hot into the last turn lap 1. Fell back and never recovered. Finished last. - 700 DR.

Aside from me stupidly trying out run a car into that 1 turn, good clean racing.

 

[Rexracer702]

Tried a race at Interlagos. Was not ready. Need some more practice.

QT 1:34.5. Started 11th. Hit a car going too hot into the last turn lap 1. Fell back and never recovered. Finished last. - 700 DR.

Aside from me stupidly trying out run a car into that 1 turn, good clean racing.

Started 11th, but how many behind, and what was their Q? I've found, when struggling with pace, that a car change often helps. Last time we had this combo (Interlagos,GR3) I was pretty new to the game, and managed a 33.3 in the Mazda. In the races, I was being slowed in the corners (good corner speed), but didn't have the speed to pass on the straights. In practice I tried the Aston Martin, and couldn't break 1:34, but it is so stable that I could do 34's all day, and it has good top speed, and a LOT of grunt out of the corners. I was much more consistent with it in the race, and passing on the straight was happening before start/finish, so my results were better. Often the fastest car in Q isn't the best for race pace or passing.

 

[DK]

I tried out the 458 in Race C earlier...won't be doing that again, at least the Cayman doesn't gobble up its front tyres as badly.

 

[stpatty]

No it's not impossible. I'm using a DS4, running the Porsche with hard fronts and medium rears. When starting from the back, around position 16 to 18, I have been finishing 7th and up.

When using my qualifying account (2:09:xx), I'm starting 4th to 7th, and either maintaining position or gaining a place or two. I'm a B/S driver.

Sure, I'm not gonna win but I'm fairly competitive with my set up of Porsche and DS4.

In the Huracan I was sliding all over the place on H/H, but then that was only one attempt.

 

[ToddSalad]

I'm not sure which cars you mean by "normal" since Interlagos is usually very diverse in car variety but yes, I've been using the WRX a few times. I didn't manage my quickest QT in it although it's fun and stable to drive. I've still yet to experiment with a lot of other cars but I think the Lexus will be next after I saw people sing its praises.

My bad, I was just thinking the usual suspects - Porsche, mustang, Atenza, etc. The Lexus is pretty nice and I find it has really solid handling without it sliding too much. I have issues with the Porsche sliding so I don't use it (although I'm sure if I practiced with it more I'd get used to it).

 

[Leggacy]

Yes the H-shifter makes for quicker shifts. That’s if you’re good at it, which I am not. So I’ll just continue to paddle away.

The trick is to be really mechanical with your shift to begin with, get used to the feeling of the clutch hitting the stop before you move the stick. And if you do miss a shift, just pull the relevant paddle and it will go into gear, just make sure the stick is in the correct gear before you shift again.
My problem seems to be shifting into second off the start, I nearly always end up in neutral, I have lost many places because of this.
Race A only requires 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear so it’s good one to learn.

 

[MIE1992]

Couple of things;
-If poles and wins are your goal, stay out of the 90-99 SR races. All the fastest people will be there.
-Also, take advantage of your good tracks. You qualified #140 at Yamagiwa, last month. You could've had 20+ poles that week.

Thanks for the encouragement on that second point.

And as for that first point, what do you think the issue is here? My guess is that it's something to do with the matchmaking algorithm. I know that you cannot have a higher DR grade than your SR, so even if I were hypothetically matched with players within 5000 DR or so of my score, the resulting lobby would still have a tight range of SR. I doubt that if the game started to match players with a very tight range of DR, it would result in more dirty and dirtier lobbies.

I'm not sure if it's ideal for me - nor other players with a DR grade of B - to be matched with players with a DR of A or A+, but then again, I wonder if the player-count could have something to do with this, too. Like maybe the game tries to match players with similar DR, but if there aren't enough players, it starts to expand the DR range of potential matches? I don't necessarily mind being matched with players with a DR of S, though, as that's just due to the Star Player system.

 

[O604]

Started 11th, but how many behind, and what was their Q? I've found, when struggling with pace, that a car change often helps. Last time we had this combo (Interlagos,GR3) I was pretty new to the game, and managed a 33.3 in the Mazda. In the races, I was being slowed in the corners (good corner speed), but didn't have the speed to pass on the straights. In practice I tried the Aston Martin, and couldn't break 1:34, but it is so stable that I could do 34's all day, and it has good top speed, and a LOT of grunt out of the corners. I was much more consistent with it in the race, and passing on the straight was happening before start/finish, so my results were better. Often the fastest car in Q isn't the best for race pace or passing.

Full grid of 16. 2 with no qualifying time. 1 DNF at the end.

I lost points mainly due to finishing behind a DR D. Lost time making a mistake on lap 1 and fell back around 10 seconds. Made back around 5, but still last.

I tried a few cars in practice. F1 GTR, Corvette and Supra. Raced with the Supra. Might switch. Car choice isn't a problem for me. I still struggle with Gr.3 speed in general on trickier turns.

 

[beegentoo]

Unrelated to daily races but this prevents me from racing: I‘m facing a repeating „.....likes your livery“ notification. I comes up every 30s and even restarting the PS4 doesn‘t help. That „pling“-Sound distracts me. Any suggestions about this?

I wanted to take my Zakspeed-Mampe-Liquor Porsche for a ride. It‘s a replica-livery for what was originally a Ford Capri Turbo (Group 5 Monster) in the German Racing Championship in the late 1970s.

I know I probably won‘t be competitive (off by 1s from my Q-Time with the F-Type) but I don‘t care since a) my secondary account and b) Sum of penalties will decide the race result in Tokyo.

 

[Trone_Colby]

I broke 1:34 with the Aston Martin. 133.7 beating my Mustang time by .100. I don’t know if I wanna continue using it yet. Its kinda iffy. I didn’t spend too much time with it tbh.

 

[sturk0167]

I know that you cannot have a higher DR grade than your SR

Mine is A/B, currently. Your SR can be two letters lower than your DR. Any less than that and you get a DR reset. The thing is, if your SR is lower, you'll probably be matched with more people at your DR level.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

In the Huracan I was sliding all over the place on H/H, but then that was only one attempt.

I use a DS4, TCS 2 and ABS, hard tires in the Huracan and can do 2:09 in the race, good enough to go from last to second (in SR.D ) You got to get your entry speed right so you don't start sliding. Of course getting your entry speed right is not that easy when you get rammed for braking on time! It would be beneficial to have extra wheels on the side to ride the walls...

That's what you need for Tokyo.

 

[AlexCRJR]

The races this week are very good.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

My bad, I was just thinking the usual suspects - Porsche, mustang, Atenza, etc. The Lexus is pretty nice and I find it has really solid handling without it sliding too much. I have issues with the Porsche sliding so I don't use it (although I'm sure if I practiced with it more I'd get used to it).

You could try adjusting BB on the Porsche. I found it more stable with less oversteer after using -3. Not sure if it's optimal but it works for me. I tried the Porsche for a few races and while it handles nicely (especially around Pinheirinho), you really notice the drop in speed along the straights so I've since switched to the Ford.

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

No clean race bonus, and just one orange SR in Race C due to again being rubbed coming out of Turn 1............and for all that effort it was worth a massive 5 SR points. Race C isn't giving much this week, just hugely taking away!

Still, did go from 20th to 7th, which was fun.

 

[GT5Power]

I have Friday off so I plan on doing some racing. Can the Huracán go the full distance on mediums front and back? If not, will hards compromise my pace to such an extent that I will have to choose a different car? DS4, only aids are CSA and ABS.

 

[Famine]

Can the Huracán go the full distance on mediums front and back?

I can't do it, and even with mediums on the rear only I'm losing a lot of pace on laps six and seven. RH seems to be the only way to go - you'll be about 2s a lap slower, but compared to the 16-18s you'll lose in the stops it's quicker overall.

 

[GT5Power]

I can't do it, and even with mediums on the rear only I'm losing a lot of pace on laps six and seven. RH seems to be the only way to go - you'll be about 2s a lap slower, but compared to the 16-18s you'll lose in the stops it's quicker overall.

I see. I've watched someone do it on stream, but that was with a wheel, which has an advantage when it comes to tire wear. The problem is that it's those guys I'm competing against Surely there's a car that can do it on mediums and is less than 2s/lap slower than the Lambo, right?

 

[abrahamx]

Jester 0979


Congrats on the wedding bands. That's a major life event

I waited 14 years to get married. Been married 15 years now as of feb 19th(send a gift next year). Congrads and nice job waiting so long.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I’ve only encountered a few F1 GTR’s and while they’re fast on the straights, they seem a bit squirrely through the second and third sector, but still a very competitive car. As of right now, the R8 LMS appears to be the more popular car but it’s still a mixed bag. The track is varied enough that anything can be quick.

BB set to -3 and the R8 is like butter

 

[MIE1992]

Mine is A/B, currently. Your SR can be two letters lower than your DR. Any less than that and you get a DR reset. The thing is, if your SR is lower, you'll probably be matched with more people at your DR level.

Ah, I see. But don't you think people of similar DR should be matched, in that case?

 

[sturk0167]

Ah, I see. But don't you think people of similar DR should be matched, in that case?

Yes, I think they should be, but consider the math involved in the matchmaking. Race C, for example: 20 open spots per race. There will probably never be 20 A+/S people entering the same race, so the computer has to choose the next closest levels that have entered. Same thing for all the DR levels and SR levels. There's just not enough people entering for all the letter combinations for each race.

I was just saying that on average, people with higher SR tend to have higher DR. There are probably more DR Cs at SR B, than at SR S.

 

[MIE1992]

Yes, I think they should be, but consider the math involved in the matchmaking. Race C, for example: 20 open spots per race. There will probably never be 20 A+/S people entering the same race, so the computer has to choose the next closest levels that have entered. entered. Same thing for all the DR levels and SR levels. There's just not enough people entering for all the letter combinations for each race.

I was just saying that on average, people with higher SR tend to have higher DR. There are probably more DR Cs at SR B, than at SR S.

Maybe in that case, the players that fill in the fields should have a downward trend. Like if you have B/S, the players you'd be matched with could also be B/S, but also B/A, C/S, etc. instead of potentially being matched with A/S, or A/A. But DR S wouldn't be affected since it's the result of the Star Player program.

 

[sturk0167]

Maybe in that case, the players that fill in the fields should have a downward trend. Like if you have B/S, the players you'd be matched with could also be B/S, but also B/A, C/S, etc. instead of potentially being matched with A/S, or A/A. But DR S wouldn't be affected since it's the result of the Star Player program.

Yeah, but the game seems to favor SR matching over DR matching.
Come on out to Tokyo tomorrow. I'll be racing from the back, under the name RPMcmurphy01. From all the reports I've read here in the last couple of days about the chaos in that race, I'm thinking it sounds like a good time. 👍 I'm at B/S (probably not for long ).

 

[MIE1992]

Yeah, but the game seems to favor SR matching over DR matching.

I don't know how much coding/networking changes it'd take to make matchmaking to favor DR, but I feel like less people overall would struggle with the trophies for wins/poles if it were changed to that. Especially since your SR can only deviate so much from your DR.

My suggestion would be to prioritize DR matching (as I'd wager there'd be a decent amount of other players with their SR capped at 99), then if the matchmaking runs out of players with 99 SR, then it moves onto players with 98 SR, then 97 SR, etc. But before matching players based on SR, it'd begin with searching by DR, starting with searching within a +/- 1000 DR point range using the player's DR as the starting point, and if necessary, it then would continue expanding (e.g. +/- 2000 DR, then +/- 3000 DR, etc.) until the field is relatively full.