"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Alpha Cipher]

Skipping the tyre change is definitely the way to go in this race.

I should've done this :/

 

[TheNorfolkDad]

Despite a minor blip earlier, the end of the evening was very kind! Had a great race with two others for the lead, such a close finish in the end where I came second.

The winner was also in my next race and was a good battle between the two of us, he landed himself a penalty for cutting a corner and I snuck past. He tried to get past again, which I allowed (because penalty), and I got the win. Most pleased!

 

[TheGeologist]

I tried something interesting. I skipped my tire change and gained 6 spots on pit road at Le Mans

 

[ARTAsean]

Really amazing mix of cars at Le Mans today. Corvette, Mustang, Viper, 458 Italia, GT-R, R8 and the Peugeot all at the front. Skipping the tyre change is definitely the way to go in this race.

Wow so true, thanks for this!! just put about 6-7 seconds on everyone coming out of the pits.

I was using the Viper too, just baby 2nd gear for lap 3/4 and it's no problem.

 

[ivann]

Clean race at Le Mans for me with alot of close racing and action. Happy.

 

[tofuhero]

I'm not fond of a simulated endurance race where a winning strategy can be to not change tires at all. Especially when that's hardly a feasible strategy for some of the Gr.3 MR cars.

Maybe some of you don't care because it's just a vidyagame and you'll use whatever meta strategy is available to win, but if PD are going to simulate endurance racing in Race C then I think they should do it properly. Races should be at least twice as long as they are now, requiring at least one tire change, and we should be able to choose tire compound.

 

[VeeDoubleU]

Maybe some of you don't care because it's just a vidyagame and you'll use whatever meta strategy is available to win

wtf, strategy is a part of racing. Not changing tires in a 4 lap race (16 minute race) has nothing to do with it being a 'vidyagame', holy hell you are salty. You are sounding as if a strategic call is somehow cheating. You do realise there is a disadvantage to the strategy too, which is the pace disadvantage in the final stages plus the extra difficulty of control.

In no way is Daily Race C actually an endurance race, and it shouldn't be treated as so. It is often called an endurance race though due to it being the longest of the daily options.

If you are that focused on realism that you want all races to be at least twice as long, then you really misunderstand the GT Sport userbase, as the playerbase would severely decrease if the shortest possible race was 15 minutes. Yeah, that might be okay for the people on GT Planet, but we do not represent the majority of the players.

Anyway, you somehow moan about the lack of realism for a short 'endurance race', but surely anything under an hour isn't an endurance race either? or y'know, the term 'endurance' is subjective

By your same logic, if you want extra simulation for the 'endurance race', why don't all of us jump out of our chair during the pitstop and get our friend, parent, child or pet to drive the next stint. That would sure show those 'vidyagame' people!!!

 

[Invisigoth]

If you are that focused on realism that you want all races to be at least twice as long, then you really misunderstand the GT Sport userbase, as the playerbase would severely decrease if the shortest possible race was 15 minutes. Yeah, that might be okay for the people on GT Planet, but we do not represent the majority of the players.

Yep. I personally would love to see true endurance races in the dailys, but I've seen a lot of posts here from not just a few people, but many saying they don't have the time or inclination for a long race. If you want to race against people online endurance wise, there are lobbies dedicated to that like @Rinsky 's 1.5h race (congrats @Alpha Cipher btw ).

 

[ARTAsean]

I'm not fond of a simulated endurance race where a winning strategy can be to not change tires at all. Especially when that's hardly a feasible strategy for some of the Gr.3 MR cars.

Maybe some of you don't care because it's just a vidyagame and you'll use whatever meta strategy is available to win, but if PD are going to simulate endurance racing in Race C then I think they should do it properly. Races should be at least twice as long as they are now, requiring at least one tire change, and we should be able to choose tire compound.

All your points are valid. But keep in mind what PD is trying to; strike the perfect balance between *sim* and *arcade*. In order to execute that, they need a Sport Mode that appeals to as many people as possible. 1 hour long races appeal to the minority of players and that's the bottom line.

That minority is free to go into Online Lobby and create their own endurance races / leagues. No need to separate the fan base, there aren't enough players on Sport Mode as is.

 

[ScottPuss20]

5 things I learnt in the Group 3 Le Mans race:
-The Dodge Viper is very fast but horrible on fuel consumption
-Penalties on Le Mans are ridiculous
-The guy who wins is the one who gets the least amount of penalties
-Penalties ruin your race when leading
-The Mercedes AMG GT GT3 has better fuel economy and handling compared to the Viper

I also came to realise that the Mercedes is my favourite Group 3 car. It's highly predictable and very balanced.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

My no qualifying policy turned out to be a huge handicap on Le Mans as I'm basically starting on pole of all the people that don't know the track, right in front of that chicane before the start.... It took 4 races to get out of SR.A due to getting punted and receiving a penalty each time. And what happens in the first max SR.S race, I start 20th, 13 to 19 take each other out in that chicane before the start and I start the race in 13th...

The other problem is that despite not qualifying I'm back in DR.A, back to full vulnerability to the penalty system :/ So far so good, knock on wood. Only 1 penalty in that max SR.S race due to, I don't know actually. Was it too much green, 2 wheels on the blue, over the dotted line, too much kerb, who knows with these delayed penalties, just stay in the middle...

Starting 17th now, last, I guess 3 got booted from matchmaking.
Edit; Finished 3rd penalty free, fun stuff.

 

[05XR8]

I'm still not game to pit for fuel only. Tried the Atenza at Le Mans. Held its own against the F-Type, but couldn't catch the Mustangs and Peugeot.

Had very little tyre wear. Yet I had the crew change tyres. I need something to fight with in the closing stages.

About Race B. Why can't people give up the spot? Work together. I 100% back off or brake earlier or stay off the racing line when it's one in one. Let's gap the field. In the heat of a 5 car pack, I can understand.

Anyway, reunited with the Atenza. A couple lonely races and some really close, good racing with others.

 

[Veinz]

Only did 2 races around La Sarthe but both lobbies were very competitive. 2 races in a row it was full of DR A/A+ and SR S players. Fun but very tense.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Yep. I personally would love to see true endurance races in the dailys, but I've seen a lot of posts here from not just a few people, but many saying they don't have the time or inclination for a long race. If you want to race against people online endurance wise, there are lobbies dedicated to that like @Rinsky 's 1.5h race (congrats @Alpha Cipher btw ).

Why the congratulations? I didn't win a single race yesterday despite constantly getting a podium start/pole

 

[Invisigoth]

Why the congratulations? I didn't win a single race yesterday despite constantly getting a podium start/pole

Last month's 1.5h . Bit off topic, but on topic for the post it was in 👍.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Last month's 1.5h . Bit off topic, but on topic for the post it was in 👍.

I think it was the first eduro race I came second, but had the FL so pretty happy with that thanks!

 

[manion]

Definately need tyres when using the Citroen haha was 5 seconds in the lead at start of last lap and ended up 4th with tcs on 3

 

[05XR8]

Tried the RC F in my other account. 👍

Only needs 2 laps of fuel. Tyres were good. Plus, it's well balanced. Very fast.
I was pulling away from a Peugeot at each straight. Then, an M6 was getting a tow, but wait, the RC F also has excellent brakes. So stable thru Indianapolis and throughout the end of the course.

Oh yeah, started from last(16th) up to 3rd. Was making time on the lead Viper(don't know if was conserving, will to watch the video). A beast.

 

[Kano Manel]

How on earth did I get a 10 second penalty for this



And that driver doesn't get a penalty for that?! That makes zero sense. PDs track limits are erroneous.

I think you are too close to the limits, from your point of view maybe not, but seems that you were out.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Damn, just had to punt someone off, got me 24 sec penalty but was worth it. No innocent bystanders were harmed.

He rammed me twice from behind, then tried to serve his 20 sec penalty in front of me brake checking me, then dirty blocked on the next straight. He already had me up to 14 sec in "you too" penalties, 2x1 for the ram from behind, 2 for his brake check and 10 for his dirty block. Mulsanne was coming up after his dirty blocking, so it was go play in the dirt. I reported him as well however since that doesn't do anything I had to take matters in my own hand. I went to SR.A for that, he dropped to SR.C, worth it.

I looked him up on KP, I guess he learned a lesson

 

[LotusEvoraGTE]

Get back to SR S only to get thrown back to SR B because of idiots who don't know how to drive. Lovely

 

[SjefGielen]

Love the differences in the big three at la Sarthe.

RSR has the HANDLING, ACCELERATION and PD replicated Porsche's famous braking ability. I got some awesome overtakes in the braking areas.
Corvette has the grunt and stability in corners.
458 has speed and quickness. I can't get over how great it sounds. Especially a TT replay. 450k well spent.

Downsides are: Porsche is slow, braking in the Vette and for the 458, rear tyre wear rear and stabilty on corner exit. TCS 3 is like an on/off switch, I had to use TCS 5 when I didn't change tyres.

As much as I love the Aston and would be pretty nostalgic to use the Viper, the big three actually make me smile during the race and replays.

Hmmm, I have different experience with the 458, yes, the rear tyre wear is strong, but I didn't need TCS 3/5 for it. I'm driving almost every Gr3 race in the 458 and have my TCS on 1 always, to prevent it from burning it's rear tyres on each and every exit.
But then again, I'm probably not as fast as you are on La Sarthe, i only managed to squeeze out a 4:06,465 yesterday, still have to learn the braking points, coast speeds and corner exits with the 458 on it.

 

[MaddinICE]

Todays races:

Race A - One Make - Fiat 500F '68 - Lago Maggiore Center - 6 laps - Standing start
Race B - Gr. 3 - Dragon Trail Seaside - 5 laps - Rolling start
Race C - Gr. 2 - Nürburgring GP - 11 laps - 8x Fuel / 10x Tires - Rolling start

 

[SjefGielen]

Todays races:

Race A - One Make - Fiat 500F '68 - Lago Maggiore Center - 6 laps - Standing start
Race B - Gr. 3 - Dragon Trail Seaside - 5 laps - Rolling start
Race C - Gr. 2 - Nürburgring GP - 11 laps - 8x Fuel / 10x Tires - Rolling start

That's amazing, I'm going to be racing Race A all night!!!!

Oh, maybe a silly question but how do you report somebody, I've had some very bad races last thursday and friday, forcing me to work all weekend long to get my SR from B to S again. I saw a few people mentioning they reported people for really bad racing habits and can't find antything in GT about reporting someone.

 

[05XR8]

Hmmm, I have different experience with the 458, yes, the rear tyre wear is strong, but I didn't need TCS 3/5 for it. I'm driving almost every Gr3 race in the 458 and have my TCS on 1 always, to prevent it from burning it's rear tyres on each and every exit.
But then again, I'm probably not as fast as you are on La Sarthe, i only managed to squeeze out a 4:06,465 yesterday, still have to learn the braking points, coast speeds and corner exits with the 458 on it.

For sure, you may be able to extract more out of it and/or be a smoother driver with it. I've only dabbled with both 458s this weekend.

I did a 4:01 in the RC F. Didn't set a time with any of the other cars.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

That's amazing, I'm going to be racing Race A all night!!!!

Oh, maybe a silly question but how do you report somebody, I've had some very bad races last thursday and friday, forcing me to work all weekend long to get my SR from B to S again. I saw a few people mentioning they reported people for really bad racing habits and can't find antything in GT about reporting someone.

Click on their name after the race in the result screen, the option comes up. Whether it does anything, nobody knows...

Sarthe was tons of fun to drive in GR.3, I hope it comes back soon!
Last race ended like my first, second place finish, 12 positions up, back to SR.S

 

[Crazy Taylor]

Race A - One Make - Fiat 500F '68 - Lago Maggiore Center - 6 laps - Standing start

Really that car only has a top speed of about 60 going downhill.

 

[TheNorfolkDad]

Damn, just had to punt someone off, got me 24 sec penalty but was worth it. No innocent bystanders were harmed.

Not that I condone that sort of behaviour, but I’ll bet it was satisfying to take him out. During a few of last nights races I had drivers like that, even at SR S. At the time I wanted to take them out but opted for the moral high road.

 

[tofuhero]

wtf, strategy is a part of racing. Not changing tires in a 4 lap race (16 minute race) has nothing to do with it being a 'vidyagame', holy hell you are salty. You are sounding as if a strategic call is somehow cheating. You do realise there is a disadvantage to the strategy too, which is the pace disadvantage in the final stages plus the extra difficulty of control.

In no way is Daily Race C actually an endurance race, and it shouldn't be treated as so. It is often called an endurance race though due to it being the longest of the daily options.

If you are that focused on realism that you want all races to be at least twice as long, then you really misunderstand the GT Sport userbase, as the playerbase would severely decrease if the shortest possible race was 15 minutes. Yeah, that might be okay for the people on GT Planet, but we do not represent the majority of the players.

Anyway, you somehow moan about the lack of realism for a short 'endurance race', but surely anything under an hour isn't an endurance race either? or y'know, the term 'endurance' is subjective

By your same logic, if you want extra simulation for the 'endurance race', why don't all of us jump out of our chair during the pitstop and get our friend, parent, child or pet to drive the next stint. That would sure show those 'vidyagame' people!!!

No, I don't think the no tire option is "cheating" at all, I just think it's ridiculous to have an "endurance" race (in quotes for you) that can be run without a tire change.

And actually, yes, I have called for PD to add the ability to swap with a teammate for stints in long endurance races! That would be amazing. And I think it would actually be great for GTS's e-sports angle as well.

 

[SjefGielen]

Not that I condone that sort of behaviour, but I’ll bet it was satisfying to take him out. During a few of last nights races I had drivers like that, even at SR S. At the time I wanted to take them out but opted for the moral high road.

Yes, that can be satisfying, I was tempted during the Clio race yesterday, the guy running in 3rd place behind me had been trying to push me off track for almost 2 laps, I decided to let him pass so at least I wouldn't get a victim's penalty, I was also tempted to strike back in lap 4 just before the hairpin but decided not to, then, in the double left hander before the start/finish straight karma hit me, or better put: karma hit HIM, I kept pushing him but keeping enough distance not to hit him, he somehow managed to loose control almost spinning the car and of course ended up almost against the wall, it was then that I felt again it is far more satisfying just flying by on his inside and looking in the rear view mirror seeing at least 4 more cars passing him. BTW he finished even further back because of his accumulated penalties, now that's satisfaction :-)