"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[05XR8]

I wish we could use a Garage GRMN 86 for Race A. That's going to be a fun race.

 

[MaddinICE]

Todays races:

Race A - One Make - Toyota 86 GRMN '16 - Tsukuba - 10 laps - Standing start
Race B - Gr. 3 - Lake Maggiore GP - 4 laps - Rolling start
Race C - Gr. 2 - Suzuka - 10 laps - 8x Fuel / 10x Tires - Rolling start, Racing Hard/Medium available

 

[leaves_2B]

Day 99 I was 35263 Dr and now day 100 cracked 40k sitting at 40349. Thats a solid Sundays effort haha amazing what actually setting a qualy time can do for results although probably not as fun as racing from the back

great progress from la Sarthe, right?

I remembered racing with you multiple times! That qualifying time was indeed impressive!

hope to see you on track again!

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@Sven Jurgens Scratch that just dropped to SR.D. Oh, nope wait, last race is in, down to SR.E, DR 3000.
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Sven, While I quite enjoy your posts (especially like the research on which color Dodge was best at Willow), i don't see in your profile or Kudos that you have been a DR E since you began

Kudos prime records the stats for the day at midnight GMT, which is 8pm EST for me. I hit D/E at 3 am Sunday morning, did 2 races in the afternoon and was 7K/47 when KP recorded the stats. Usually it records me at the worst time of the day, 7pm to 8pm EST races are the dirtiest in NA.

https://www.jasonguernsey.net/gts/driver-rating records all values if you sign up, however it seems to be down again atm so it didn't record my recovery yet. It was also down during my second reset which KP was also late to record that day 166, already back to 17k/99 that day.

I thought racing in SR.E would be hard, far from it. It was cleaner than SR.B. I only did the one race in SR.E though.

My jourrney back up: (without qualifying of course)
17:27 -> DR:3000 | SR:1/99 | Races:3325
17:56 -> DR:5734 | SR:31/99 | Races:3326 2nd place 1 penalty hit stalling ghost 2 sec, forgot to pit, then forgot to change tires
18:26 -> DR:7029 | SR:47/99 | Races:3327 2nd place 1 penalty hit from behind 1 sec
20:26 -> DR:7383 | SR:47/99 | Races:3328 8th place 1 penalty hit erratic swerve blocker 3 sec. 3 people reported. Lot of ramming and driving through me from one driver that dropped to SR.E
20:57 -> DR:8370 | SR:61/99 | Races:3329 2nd place penalty free (only one) Fastest lap, Chaos in the first two laps, somehow survived
21:28 -> DR:8987 | SR:74/99 | Races:3330 7th place penalty free, Start failure, Punted off in lap 2
21:58 -> DR:9851 | SR:75/99 | Races:3331 6th place 1 penalty from tap when boxed in at T2 4 sec, multiple bumps and had to scrape the wall a bunch of time to avoid erratic drivers.
23:57 -> DR:12135 | SR:75/99 | Races:3332 8th place 1 penalty tapped car in front when boxed in again 4 sec, plus 0.5 sec shortcut penalty when pushed off road. More bumps in dirty first lap. Screen blacking out randomly 5 times didn't help, hdmi trouble.
00:25 -> DR:12669 | SR:86/99 | Races:3333 6th place penalty free, Survived dirty first lap, Fixed HDMI problem, Bugs walking on tv.
00:56 -> DR:11133 | SR:85/99 | Races:3333 3rd place in final lap, Disconnected due to data loss NE-21088088. 1 penalty tapped apex brake checker, another penalty serve brake checker kept interfering, back to SR.S realm of sneaky dirty driving.
01:00 -X Can't reach PSN, race entry missed, modem reboot seems to fix it, technology sigh.
01:56 -> DR:11995 | SR:99/99 | Races:3334 4th place penalty free, great clean battle for 5th with 5 position swaps. First lap chaos.
02:25 -> DR:12587 | SR:99/99 | Races:3335 | DPUR:13 6th 1 penalty hit car spinning out across the road 3 sec, great battle for 6th right to the finish.

I drove the Corvette C7 again. After the first 2 races pitting in 4 I went with racing in fuel map 2 while adjusting it on the fly for the first 5 laps, to make a final sprint in the last 4 laps. The C7 didn't make 5 laps as I found out the hard way in the first race.
SR.B was the dirtiest to drive in, however that could also have been linked to the time that I was SR.B

The lower SR levels had plenty funny moments, for example:

Let's all split up to cover more ground! The road is merely there as a suggestion.

And not so much linked to SR, probably due to lag

All bunched up, pretty much a standing start gone wrong

And somebody found the jump button!!!! Look closely at the gif above right at the start.

Jump and turn, I need that button.


I also saved my starting grids again

(Did not race the last one, need to sleep as well)

DR C,D SR D,E 2:03.253 - 2:30.547 2 NQ 19 total
DR B,C,D SR C 2:03.577 - 2:14.983 2 NQ 19 total
DR B,C,D,E SR B,C 2:06.115 - 2:32.390 3 NQ 19 total
DR C,D,E SR B 2:07.515 - 3:39.213 3 NQ 19 total
DR S,A,B,C,D SR A,B 2:03.228 - 2:19.015 1 NQ 19 total
DR S,A,B,C,D SR S,A 2:00.806 - 2:16.729 2 NQ 19 total
DR S,A,B,C SR S,A 2:02.302 - 2:12.846 2 NQ 18 total
DR A,B,C,D SR S,A 2:04.595 - 2:20.486 2 NQ 18 total
DR S,A,B,C,D SR S 2:01.480 - 2:21.889 2 NQ 18 total
DR S,A.B,C,D SR S,A 2:03.472 - 2:24.839 2 NQ 18 total
DR S,B,C,D SR S 2:01.459 - 2:12.336 4 NQ 16 total
DR A,B,C,D SR S 2:03.029 - 2:14.012 3 NQ 15 total

SR makes sense as I was crossing the boundaries, DR collect em all. Starved of entries I assume.

PS I'm totally for having to re-qualify when switching cars. I always re-skip qualifying when switching cars

 

[Balwerk]

Todays races:

Race A - One Make - Toyota 86 GRMN '16 - Tsukuba - 10 laps - Standing start
Race B - Gr. 3 - Lake Maggiore GP - 4 laps - Rolling start
Race C - Gr. 2 - Suzuka - 10 laps - 8x Fuel / 10x Tires - Rolling start

Adding tires in Suzuka is Medium - Hard, choose wisely

 

[Suntek]

10x tyres, think they get wrecked in 1st 2-3 laps, hards barely held 7 laps on FIA, and that was 9x. So I'm guessing 4/6, not toomuch time gained.

 

[manion]

great progress from la Sarthe, right?

I remembered racing with you multiple times! That qualifying time was indeed impressive!

hope to see you on track again!

Yep haha think I was just playing different cars when I raced with you pulled some good results when I just settled for the meta Mustang then went hotlapping for a top 10 time. Only just pipped your time by a couple of tenths

 

[05XR8]

Started on the RM with NSX. No qualy, 18th place. Pitted end of lap 4. Filled to 6.2laps. Finished 9th with 0.4laps fuel and good wear on the RH.

 

[Suntek]

Did 49.8 on RM qualy, thought I'll get nice pole.
Starting 10th in room full of A and A+ as med-low B..
Thanks, matchmaking..

Edit: accidentally spam-choose Mediums at pit..
Drove 3 laps till they got wrecked, pit for Hards, drop from 6th to 13th..

Still 100dr, so that's something xD

 

[Balwerk]

Started on the RM with NSX. No qualy, 18th place. Pitted end of lap 4. Filled to 6.2laps. Finished 9th with 0.4laps fuel and good wear on the RH.

Did 49.8 on RM qualy, thought I'll get nice pole.
Starting 10th in room full of A and A+ as med-low B..
Thanks, matchmaking..

Edit: accidentally spam-choose Mediums at pit..
Drove 3 laps till they got wrecked, pit for Hards, drop from 6th to 13th..

Still 100dr, so that's something xD

So, RM with 10x tire wear still risky right? look alike better stick with RH eh?

 

[VeeDoubleU]

Do any of you think you should have to requalify for every race entry?

I think there should be a 1 or 2 lap qualifying system before the race (replacing warm-up but it would also take a few minutes longer)

 

[05XR8]

So, RM with 10x tire wear still risky right? look alike better stick with RH eh?

Not so much a risk. Depends on mistakes by other racers. Not to depend on others misfortune. I see it more as experimenting with what works for the car you use and your driving style.

I had TCS at 2. Full Power, trigger to the plastic.

 

[Invisigoth]

I had TCS at 2. Full Power, trigger to the plastic.

Short shifting I take it? Most of the Gr2 races I don't manage a 1 stop Race C without short shifting.

 

[Tou2istTrophy]

Does the Daily Race Calender update automatically?

I can’t see any of the schedule besides today’s.

 

[Invisigoth]

Since no one seems to be posting.... first race report of the night. Race B. What a trip. I put in some laps qualifying and managed to crack the 2min mark, which for me is flying. That surprised me with qualifying P3/16 amongst DR/C and D .

It was pretty groovy to see my car as the camera pans the first few cars at the start of the race. Auto drive cuts us loose and its the usual dash for crash into T1. I stayed up the inside and crawled round the bend nice and safely. I found that's just a tiny bit slower than my usual line, but it gives me a fighting chance of making it through the first turn .

I was following the Aussie in front of me, and for the first couple of laps he had a case of diarrhoea, and I got close a few times, but he got his act together and the best I could manage was a maintain the gap. I was a bit too cautious in the second half and the guy behind me was able to close the gap. He showed up on radar part way through the big turn at the bottom of the hill. I was about to go into the sand and had to drop down to 1st in a Hail Mary move to stay on the track. I was right on the edge and heard the sound of screeching tyres and and a thud. The wedge on the radar was at 90 deg to me . Instead of ducking under me and gaining a position he must have followed my line and had to take evasive action himself. I pulled a 5s gap after that.

And the finish?

SR maintained at 99 and DR up by 900 .

 

[05XR8]

Short shifting I take it? Most of the Gr2 races I don't manage a 1 stop Race C without short shifting.

No, no. The Bathurst race was a non stop. The Gr. 2 race I pitted. From my post you quoted.

Edit: Skip that. I see what I did.
No short shifting. At the start, I slowedc to let the last car pass me. I followed to stay out of trouble. Being smooth and consistent. Drafting, but not being aggressive when I got close.

I backed off cars ahead, so we didn't lose time fighting for position. After I pitted, some cars were going off at T1 after pitting. I still stayed consistent. Not being aggressive. Hard on the throttle even.

Looking at the replay, cars I passed, couldn't keep up with me. It's like they are racing too hard. I just t pulled away. I'll share the video tomorrow.

 

[Suntek]

Not so much a risk. Depends on mistakes by other racers. Not to depend on others misfortune. I see it more as experimenting with what works for the car you use and your driving style.

I had TCS at 2. Full Power, trigger to the plastic.

Yeah, I had a lot of braking on weird places because I had to basically avoid getting crashed into people in front that kept braking on weird places.

Also noticed the RM wore way faster on 2nd part of the race.
Not sure if it's me driving on limits or road conditions.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

Well since my comments last week it has been a bit of a roller coaster of a week for me but in a good way! 👍

After all my racing and efforts since last Tuesday I currently sit on DR B: 16,636 and SR S: 81 (some bad racers in Race yesterday ) which leads me nicely onto the question.

What's going to happen about this glitching bug in races where cars simply pass through each other due to being in close proximity to
each other?

I was robbed of a 1st place at Mount Panorama circuit yesterday because on the last two corners the car in second place and myself were glitched
on top of each other and he had the better line coming out of the last corner and was able to drive ahead and win the race when it should really
have been my victory?

Will try to upload the replay later on if it helps explain the problem.

 

[ASH32]

Race C is pretty interesting and a bit of a battle when you've got RH's on and the guy behind is on RM's and you're busy fuel saving and messing with the fuel map and I was near the front, I'd imagine mid-pack is chaos.

Anyway I didn't like the Racing Mediums, they wore out too quick, so even 4 laps on them is more than enough in the Honda at least, so in the end I was just running Hards all race and pitting on lap 5 as standard.

I'd imagine only the very best using the Lexus will make the Mediums work, everyone else would likely be better off running Hards all race.

Also what'd do you guys reckon the pace advantage of the Mediums is, about a second or so when not worn down?

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Well since my comments last week it has been a bit of a roller coaster of a week for me but in a good way! 👍

After all my racing and efforts since last Tuesday I currently sit on DR B: 16,636 and SR S: 81 (some bad racers in Race yesterday ) which leads me nicely onto the question.

What's going to happen about this glitching bug in races where cars simply pass through each other due to being in close proximity to
each other?

I was robbed of a 1st place at Mount Panorama circuit yesterday because on the last two corners the car in second place and myself were glitched
on top of each other and he had the better line coming out of the last corner and was able to drive ahead and win the race when it should really
have been my victory?

Will try to upload the replay later on if it helps explain the problem.

I had the same thing happen, the game seems to give up on collision detection when someone racks up too many SR deductions, at least that's my theory. Another car was simply drafting through me in corners which completely sucks as when he gets slightly in front the game renders his car so my entire view is obstructed in bumper cam. I crashed the third time he did that as I couldn't see anything. Luckily it wasn't for first place. He dropped to SR.E in that race (it was a SR.B race)

I've seen it a lot since the last penalty update. Usually it's cars with penalties glitching through each other without ghosting, yet sometimes also without penalties (active). It feels like cheating when someone brakes late and simply drives through you and drafts overtakes while overlapped. On the other hand, if the game didn't let him through he would have bumped you off...

Perhaps the game should cut engine power to overlapped cars, then it's their responsibility to get away from each other. Yet that would be abused again as it would be even easier to draft pass through people if the lead car gets a power cut as well.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

l.

Well in the case of my race the driver in question did have SR penalties earlier in the race so I suspect he had too many and it had simply
given up on the collision detection yet I have a feeling they also knew that was the case and took the chance to steal the victory.

I'll keep an eye on it in future races.

 

[Invisigoth]

The noisy tribe is back. Race C, and people have no patience at Suzuka. I put in some laps which I thought were pretty crappy, and was expecting to be down a couple of positions from the back. That wasn't going to happen, because P12-P18 were reserved for non-qualifyers . I started P7. Was pretty happy with that.

The race starts and I manage to make it through T1 ok and was getting rammed on the esses, when the car in front of me spins out coming up to the two right handers before the hairpin. He takes me out as well, so I end up in the sand. From there it was just down hill. Spun out 2 more times, did a bit of rally cross on the exit to the esses, got rammed a few times and found myself with an orange SR on auto drive coming out of the pits! I couldn't get 6 laps out of the NSX, so I had to go with a 5 hard x2 strategy. Finished P14 when I passed someone near the end who ran out of fuel.

Lost fewer DR coming P14 than I gained coming P3 in the previous race. SR still 99. Whilst not spectacular, DR has been climbing each day from a low of 760 6 days ago to 2166. Better than a kick in the teeth I guess . Another day above DR1 .

 

[Winnie847]

And somebody found the jump button!!!! Look closely at the gif above right at the start.

Jump and turn, I need that button.

That's hilarious. I was watching @Tidgney stream the Manufacturer's cup the other day at Bathurst and the same thing happened, but the guy in his video was like a few hundred feet in the air. It looked like a helicopter. No idea if that is caused by lag or what it could be. That was the first time I had seen that happen, yours is the second.

 

[zocker_16]

Not todays GR.2 Race at Suzuka but some days ago.
Nearly lost my car at 130R in lap 8 ( at min 15:45 ) but managed to save it and had a nice fight for p.2 in the end.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

One simple question for today's Race A - How the heck are you all getting 1:07-1:10's as I can't get below 1:11.

What's the best brake balance for the 86 GRMN?

 

[ARTAsean]

One simple question for today's Race A - How the heck are you all getting 1:07-1:10's as I can't get below 1:11.

What's the best brake balance for the 86 GRMN?

+5 BB

Tsukuba is a rudimentary track. If you're off the pace you're probably losing time mostly in the final high speed hairpin.

you really only want to tap the brakes and flick the car into it, go wide and get a good run.

Also T1, brake late and decrease that radius as much as possible.

I'm not sure if they patched the clutch + shifter advantage, but that's worth a few tenths as well.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

+5 BB

Tsukuba is a rudimentary track. If you're off the pace you're probably losing time mostly in the final high speed hairpin.

you really only want to tap the brakes and flick the car into it, go wide and get a good run.

Also T1, brake late and decrease that radius as much as possible.

I'm not sure if they patched the clutch + shifter advantage, but that's worth a few tenths as well.

Thanks for the info, I had BB on 3 but was figuring I needed either more/less. Got the corners mastered otherwise.

 

[Tidgney]

That's hilarious. I was watching @Tidgney stream the Manufacturer's cup the other day at Bathurst and the same thing happened, but the guy in his video was like a few hundred feet in the air. It looked like a helicopter. No idea if that is caused by lag or what it could be. That was the first time I had seen that happen, yours is the second.

There you go, at the exact time to, no idea what the heck was going on there!

 

[ARTAsean]

Thanks for the info, I had BB on 3 but was figuring I needed either more/less. Got the corners mastered otherwise.

Changing your BB wont make a difference anyway on such a short track, if you post a video of your run I can help more, I have like a 50% win rate on this track

 

[Silver_Wolf]

Changing your BB wont make a difference anyway on such a short track, if you post a video of your run I can help more, I have like a 50% win rate on this track

Would post a video but I'm on late shift at work so can't actually try and improve at the moment.