"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

After a long break from sport mode, I finally joint another race yesterday.
And I had lots of fun in the M4, even though I was surrounded by only Huracans.

Guess I need to search another, quicker car to compete with the Lambo sheeps tonight

Audi TT Cup, it’s fast on this track.

 

[MhtyClipster]

A poor mornings work from me finds my SR just above C, can't seem to get a decent clean race on B or C without getting some kind of penalty. Been letting everyone through on race C to avoid T1 but I still seem to catch them fairly quick, in SR B today there are a lot of driver who clearly don't know the layout and usually bounce around the track for about half a lap before quitting. Thanks guys.
I ain't done better on B either, which is better for SR race C or B?
I guess its C if you can keep it clean.
Also how the heck do you get a low time on race B do you have to run wide at T1 get a penalty then dump it at T2?
Edit: Down in SR C no matter how I drive I get a penalty from some other driver or my own crap drivin.

 

[Barry R]

A poor mornings work from me finds my SR just above C, can't seem to get a decent clean race on B or C without getting some kind of penalty. Been letting everyone through on race C to avoid T1 but I still seem to catch them fair quick, in SR B today there are a lot of driver who clearer don't know the layout and usually bounce around the track for about half a lap before quitting. Thanks guys.
I ain't done better on B either, which is better for SR C or B?
I guess its C if you can keep it clean.
Also how the heck do you get a low time on race B do you have to run wide at T1 get a penalty then dump it at T2?

So run wide on turn 1, you might get no penalty you might get a second. I found that i could drop between 0.6 and 0.7 penalties at turn 2. Any more and you have to look else where to try and get rid of it

 

[Pedinhuh]

Audi TT Cup, it’s fast on this track.

TT cup is fast on pretty much any track at this point, BoP is too easy on it like it was on Megane Gr4.

 

[Brzlav]

How hard can it be to install decent track limits? This is a real world track, just look at the races there... Tsssss

 

[ASH32]

TT cup is fast on pretty much any track at this point, BoP is too easy on it like it was on Megane Gr4.

As a Lambo driver these two are the cars you do not want to get behind, they are so quick on the straights it's almost impossible to pass them, especially the Megane. It doesn't matter how slow they take the corners, if the driver is decent and doesn't go off track, you are not getting past you are just likely to bump them if you try.

Also @banckzy I am running front bias, I just can't get rear to work I slide too much and lose too much time, normally I'll use rear on most cars. Did just about get a 1:35 lap with -2, still best possible for me a 1:35.7xx. I also notice a 1:35.1 on the leaderboard now but there is no replay available, I wonder what trick they used to find a few extra tenths.

 

[Invisigoth]

Just qualified for race B in an old favorite, but not as much since the tyre model change. Took me 7 laps to beat my trophy time... but that was mostly because only 3 of those registered as legit laps . We'll see how the Viper fares with traffic . 10 mins to go till race time!

Edit: Race done. My time got me P2/16 on a grid of my peeps. P1 was driving the TT, a fellow Aussie. 👍

It was a nice clean race... mainly because for the race I had some pace and managed not to get punted T1. I was right up there with the TT, even had to back off a few times. At one stage we were cornering side by side. I backed off to hug the inside so I didn't run wide on the exit and knock him off . The guy behind me was persist for a bit, but must have made some mistakes because the gap went from him being on my radar to 1s to 4s. I wasn't quite as tidy either, concentration not quite there and had to grab lower gears to stay out of the sand pit . I finished 3s behind in P2. He left before I could finish trying to clumsily key out with the DS4 "Brocky05 you da man!". Yeh, that's the decal he had on the front of the TT

SR up by 5, DR up by over 1k .

 

[ASH32]

Meganes make me so nervous. Here's one time I just about avoided being behind one, the next race I was not so lucky.



Again you have been warned about those Meganes. This guy wasn't really dirty like they normally are too.

 

[YoBuck]

I’m away at the moment so will be late to this weeks races, can somebody tell me the race pace needed for GR4 at red bull ring please?

TT cup is fast on pretty much any track at this point, BoP is too easy on it like it was on Megane Gr4.

Agreed. Whatever the field are using I stay away from

 

[ASH32]

I’m away at the moment so will be late to this weeks races, can somebody tell me the race pace needed for GR4 at red bull ring please?

Depends on your dr level and who you are racing against. Top guys will run 1:36.0 maybe even 1:35.xxx in the race going off what I've so far managed in the race, which is a best of 1:36.3xx. A lot of the other guys (A/B level) I've raced have not gone under 1:37 in the race.

 

[6BK]

I've been guilty of a bit of complaining in the past about penalty systems and poor driving...some perhaps justified. However after a big change to how I prepare for races the last 4 weeks of Daily B have been great for me. Interlagos, KYOTO, Dragon Trail and now Red Bull have all for me at least been great fun with super close and very clean driving. Nose to tail stuff with very respectful drivers. I honestly can't believe how well a lot of folks drive both in ability and respect for what is essentially a game. OK, so I've had a few seconds of penalties or orange sectors and I'm still a rank amateur so make my share of silly mistakes but nothing serious or demoralising. It is important that I point out that my new approach to racing also shows me that a lot of the complaints that I leveled at others were often due as much to my own lack of skill, practice or understanding. The result is that I've climbed out of the dungeon I found myself in in October with 1 DR point and landed on over 11,000 last night. My first trip to DR B in 280 races.

Add to that some great bargains picked up for Christmas on Black Friday and 6BK has a G29 and Playseat on the way.

Driver Points / DR* Manner Points SR
11686 / B / 99 S < Kudosprime today
1 / D / 89 / S < Kudosprime October

Thanks to all who have provided fun and fair racing lately.

DISCLAIMER: That's just how I feel right now. Give me a few races being punted about again and I'll be back next week moaning.

 

[MhtyClipster]

Oh well -81 SR today.

I don't know why I bother trying to get my SR up on tracks am poor on, always ends in tears.

Edit: Turns out race A is ok for getting SR and points back a after reset. Back up to 50 SR now after a few A's got a couple of wins to.

 

[Mr616]

Meganes make me so nervous. Here's one time I just about avoided being behind one, the next race I was not so lucky.



Again you have been warned about those Meganes. This guy wasn't really dirty like they normally are too.

He just couldn't resist looking at turn 2. Far to shallow and would never make it stick. Glad you slammed the door shut on them.

All it did was make him vulnerable to 3rd place.

Edit: I've raced him before. Can be super clean sometimes, then mighty optimistic others. I was a victim of a 300meter plus divebomb from him in the last GR4, race B a few weeks ago.

 

[Pigems]

Depends on your dr level and who you are racing against. Top guys will run 1:36.0 maybe even 1:35.xxx in the race going off what I've so far managed in the race, which is a best of 1:36.3xx. A lot of the other guys (A/B level) I've raced have not gone under 1:37 in the race.

Yeah the level your on seems to have a lot to do with it. I’m running 1:37-1:37.5 on average in race right now and I’ll run away with A/B-B/C races but I’m pretty evenly matched or getting beat in A/A+ races.

 

[Shottah072]

I just won 3 out of 3 at the Nurburgring

Will do some more later on.

This race was a really nice one. Good battle throughout the race with a photo finish after 2 laps of the green hell. Some minor bumps but nothing serious. Pulled a not so nice divebomb at him at one point so i gave the position back.

 

[svenvangent]

Meganes make me so nervous. Here's one time I just about avoided being behind one, the next race I was not so lucky.



Again you have been warned about those Meganes. This guy wasn't really dirty like they normally are too.

Are you proud you won this race ASH32 ?

 

[ASH32]

He just couldn't resist looking at turn 2. Far to shallow and would never make it stick. Glad you slammed the door shut on them.

All it did was make him vulnerable to 3rd place.

Edit: I've raced him before. Can be super clean sometimes, then mighty optimistic others. I was a victim of a 300meter plus divebomb from him in the last GR4, race B a few weeks ago.

I actually didn't know he was there until late on, as like you say it's unlikely he'd have made the corner and I didn't expect him to try that.

Are you proud you won this race ASH32 ?

Not really, it wasn't much of a race but even then if that Megane knocked me off or even passed me I would not have won, that was more the point of the video.

 

[svenvangent]

that was more the point of the video.

Ok , than you've got there a very good point of showing this video and hope they can fix this as whit so many track in GT Sport where you can go loco/abuse in many turns .

 

[vvise]

Most interesting race of the night goes to this one:


Favorite race of the night is the last one in the stream. photo finish.

 

[ASH32]

Ok , than you've got a very good point of showing this and hope they can fix this as whit so many track where you can go loco
in many turns .

The track limits are stupid (as you say this is far from the only track with this problem, some are far worse in fact) but they are the same for everyone and very rarely you will get a penalty doing this but usually you don't even though you should.

Also it may be entirely possible to just cut the inside of some corners and serve the penalty and still have a faster lap, the guy top of the leaderboard must have got his 1:35.1 somehow and with no replay available it's a bit suspect.

 

[NevilleNobody]

T1 at RBR is insane, absolutely zero idea what generates a penalty and what doesn't, seems completely random.

Got in a tussle with an idiot using me a brake EVERY damn corner, finally let him past but i was faster and re-passe deasily, then he uses me as a brake again. Result, My DR reset to 7,000 and SR dropped to 5 ... full re-set. A week ago i was SR S, that's ridiculous.

 

[svenvangent]

The track limits are stupid (as you say this is far from the only track with this problem, some are far worse in fact) but they are the same for everyone and very rarely you will get a penalty doing this but usually you don't even though you should.

Also it may be entirely possible to just cut the inside of some corners and serve the penalty and still have a faster lap, the guy top of the leaderboard must have got his 1:35.1 somehow and with no replay available it's a bit suspect.

It blows my mind ( and I have to be carefully with headache ) that they are not on top of these kind of problems regards there credibility of there race game and online racing .
Och well I've lost the motivation any way to race online .

 

[Brzlav]

The track limits are stupid (as you say this is far from the only track with this problem, some are far worse in fact) but they are the same for everyone and very rarely you will get a penalty doing this but usually you don't even though you should.

Also it may be entirely possible to just cut the inside of some corners and serve the penalty and still have a faster lap, the guy top of the leaderboard must have got his 1:35.1 somehow and with no replay available it's a bit suspect.

I agree with you that it's a case of "don't hate the player, hate the game". If you use the existing track limits in absence of a human stewart, you are following the rules.

Still I'm angry that the developers aren't able to implement good track limits on their "FIA certified" tracks. The kinda lazy PC2 approach "four wheels over the white line is a penalty and the lap time is invalidated" is still better than this. If you want to improve on that, just watch a race on that track...

 

[vvise]

I believe the turn 1 track limit penalty is mostly based on how soon you exit the track going wide. If you manage to keep it in bounds longer past the apex the penalty is milder. Even if you only go slightly wide and come back onto the track quick where you went wide is more important than how wide.

Also if you don't back on track before the grass that's a guaranteed penalty.

Ex. Yellow is less likely to generate penalty than the red line.

 

[Shottah072]

It blows my mind ( and I have to be carefully with headache ) that they are not on top of these kind of problems regards there credibility of there race game and online racing .
Och well I've lost the motivation any way to race online .

Track limits are harsher in FIA i think but yeah i agree.

 

[ASH32]

For a total clarification I'll happily run wide where the game allows it but I will not use a Q lap where I got a penalty, intentionally cut the inside of corners, or entire parts of the lap in some cases, or use the wrong layout, that's all going too far in my book.

Of course all the above shouldn't be possible and I hope that eventually it isn't.

 

[GA 52]

It blows my mind ( and I have to be carefully with headache ) that they are not on top of these kind of problems regards there credibility of there race game and online racing .
Och well I've lost the motivation any way to race online .

Full support mate! Thanks.

 

[rono_thomas]

Also if you don't back on track before the grass that's a guaranteed penalty.

No, i can run on the grass with two wheels and no penalty.

 

[Philtaylor17]

Track limits in GT Sport are a mess, and the problem is unless you are clearly faster than someone you wont match them if they use the limits to their advantage, and there will always be people who do, so you're forced to do the same.

Hopefully one day they will fix them and we can run normal lines.

Once my post work headache dissapears ill head out for some races, be my first in about 8 months!

 

[vvise]

No, i can run on the grass with two wheels and no penalty.

interesting. that hasn't been my experience.