"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[stpatty]

A and B this week are SR bleeders and I hate Fuji. Next week doesn't look much better, I hope the car for Blue Moon doesn't oversteer too much.

 

[Zowy52]

I am probably the only person that didn't know this, but I was driving poorly during the end of a qualification session, crashing into everything, driving backwards, just killing time. At the end of the qualification session my SR rating had dropped from S to B, due to my messing around and driving like a jerk. I didn't realize that this kind of behavior in the Q sessions was reflected in SR. Guess I know better now. Expensive lesson.

 

[sturk0167]

I am probably the only person that didn't know this, but I was driving poorly during the end of a qualification session, crashing into everything, driving backwards, just killing time. At the end of the qualification session my SR rating had dropped from S to B, due to my messing around and driving like a jerk. I didn't realize that this kind of behavior in the Q sessions was reflected in SR. Guess I know better now. Expensive lesson.

I've never heard of that.

 

[Loverson]

Well seems weird, i used to get plenty of penalties when i did my qualify at LeMans or track like Tokyo but that didn't affect my SR at all

 

[Groundfish]

Curious if anyone wants to confirm this...

 

[TTM]

I am probably the only person that didn't know this, but I was driving poorly during the end of a qualification session, crashing into everything, driving backwards, just killing time. At the end of the qualification session my SR rating had dropped from S to B, due to my messing around and driving like a jerk. I didn't realize that this kind of behavior in the Q sessions was reflected in SR. Guess I know better now. Expensive lesson.

You talking about during FIA qualifying?

 

[zocker_16]

GR.2 and Fuji is one of my favorite combos in GT Sport (apart from every class on the Nordschleife ).
So it´s the perfect race for another episode of my "Starting from Back Challenge". I thought GR.2 class would be a hell to overtake and drive side by side through corners because of the speed, but with really fair opponents and such a wide track it works surprisingly good.

 

[Cerebral303]

I just came here to say Race A is abso bloody lutely stupid. A clusterflock at the first corner, and then a straight where the car tops out at 150 when drafting. Then the rest of the turns especially porsche curves in a slow car with plenty of run off it is so easy for someone to punt you off with no penalty.

Tried Race B and it is ok but there are a fair few corners where people don't know how to take them fast, and you have nowhere to go when following if they hit the brakes.

Now waiting until 5.30 to try the Fuji race. Anyone got any good tyre strat? I'm going to browse back the last couple of pages. Ill be in the '16 GT-R.

 

[sturk0167]

Curious if anyone wants to confirm this...

Didn't Sven have about 7 hours worth of penalties during his qualifying lap at Tokyo?
He would've had negative SR if it was true.

 

[Winnie847]

I am probably the only person that didn't know this, but I was driving poorly during the end of a qualification session, crashing into everything, driving backwards, just killing time. At the end of the qualification session my SR rating had dropped from S to B, due to my messing around and driving like a jerk. I didn't realize that this kind of behavior in the Q sessions was reflected in SR. Guess I know better now. Expensive lesson.

I've never heard of that.

Curious if anyone wants to confirm this...

You talking about during FIA qualifying?

He's definitely talking about FIA qualifying sessions. When you're on the track with other people during those 10-minute qualy's, the SR system works the same as in a race. Usually it won't have much effect if you still manage to have a relatively clean actual race, but I suppose you could rack up a bunch of SR-downs and after enough of them it won't matter how clean your race is. You also get green SR-ups for completing sectors without contact or hitting the wall.

 

[Groundfish]

I’ll have to try fia.

 

[Loverson]

Didn't Sven have about 7 hours worth of penalties during his qualifying lap at Tokyo?
He would've had negative SR if it was true.

I tested it with 1 hour of penalty in qualify and checked on kudos, nothing changed.
Never again because it was dreadful accumulating penalties in a no chicane le mans with a 86, it was a snorefest lol

 

[Qyn]

The easy way to multi quote is to type your reply to the first person first, then before hitting post reply, scroll back up and hit reply on the next person you want to quote, like this.



It will add it to your current post, then hit post reply when you are done.

Congratulations on making it to DR.A, the first time is special! Great progress!
https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=3357377

Don't worry about dropping back to B/S, it gets easier to get back up each time.
https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=1495257
That's my profile, up down up down. Currently mucho down with the disconnects.

Thanks Svenno, now let's see if I can pull it (the multi-quote) off lol. Mid B/S had been my comfort zone for so long I was a little intimidated running up front with the big dogs. I can now see why it's so hard to gain DR trying to keep up with you guys. Mistakes are few, far, and in between. Looking forward to seeing where this journey will take me.

Ha, I’m the same, 1 quote limit.

@bdubclub it worked!....lol. Svenno you are the man!

 

[Cerebral303]

Race C in the Motul Autech GTR, qualified with a 1:30.7 for pole in a B/B lobby and went on to claim my 7th win by 5.5s with a Medium / Soft / Soft strategy (5/4/4). That bumped my SR up to A!

Just tried this tyre strategy - worked great.

 

[KONTRAone]

Is anyone else in North America missing the old region yet? It was hard enough to fill a daily race back then with a bigger pool, but now it's just ridiculously mismatched...
I did two race Bs last night and managed to secure 2 wins for a whopping 50 DR EACH Gave up shortly after that lol...

Reasonably successful at Mount P this morning.

Two races: DR up about 500. SR up and back to S.
Also found 900ths to get my qually lap under 2.14.

Tried the Scirocco. Felt maybe more consistent than the Mégane, but I think the Mégane is just quicker.

Two more races this afternoon, including a win with pole and fastest lap.

DR above 20000 for the first time.

The scirroco is a great little handling car, but not nearly enough HP to defend down the straights. Try the TT instead 👍

I tested it with 1 hour of penalty in qualify and checked on kudos, nothing changed.
Never again because it was dreadful accumulating penalties in a no chicane le mans with a 86, it was a snorefest lol

I'm pretty sure he meant for FIA and just posted in the wrong thread, but thank you for your diligence sir

 

[Winnie847]

Is anyone else in North America missing the old region yet? It was hard enough to fill a daily race back then with a bigger pool, but now it's just ridiculously mismatched...
I did two race Bs last night and managed to secure 2 wins for a whopping 50 DR EACH Gave up shortly after that lol...

Tell me about it man, it's terrible. It really screws over A and A+ drivers. We are expected to win and if you get 2nd or 3rd there's a good chance you're losing DR. Racing popular tracks on weekends or immediately after normal working hours on weekdays might be the only real opportunities to gain significant DR anymore. The way it is now, you can win 5 races in a row, then place 5th in the next race and lose 2 or 3 times as many DR points as you gained...because of one bad race or one mistake. Even though it's a lot easier to make the leaderboard now, I miss the Brazilians and the other South/Central Americans.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Is anyone else in North America missing the old region yet? It was hard enough to fill a daily race back then with a bigger pool, but now it's just ridiculously mismatched...
I did two race Bs last night and managed to secure 2 wins for a whopping 50 DR EACH Gave up shortly after that lol...

Yes! At first I thought it would be good for my "racing from the back" strategy, however matchmaking keeps filling rooms up with lower SR, down to SR.E in the off hours. Besides that, there are so many lower DR drivers to pass now, I'm slowed down so much in the first few laps that I can never hope to catch the DR.A or DR.A+ on pole. Especially not in a 3 lap race on Mount Panorama.

I tried the Lexus this morning, which is my preferred car for a GR.3 daily C on the mountain. The GR.4 version seems to oversteer more, not a problem, unless you are stuck behind erratic slower drivers. A bit of extra braking and extra steering input to avoid the car ahead can easily trigger oversteer and lose me time instead of being able to take advantage of a gap. I'm going to try the Mustang next, still refusing to join the Megane crowd. The Huracan is nice and stable, good for passing on the mountain, however it lacks some acceleration compared to the meganes. By the time I can make a draft pass I have to be certain to be passing a clean competent driver not to get bumped off at the slight right or run in to and get a penalty.

Bring back the South Aemricans, at least they never brake early,


Instead of the mountain I gave Fuji another try. I forgot to change my tires during warm-up so started on hard tires again. After changing them to softs in lap 5 I finally started to get some speed, Too late, and still too slow. I didn't get to finish again, made up one position since someone quit lol. Dreadful. I might reach DR.C this week, halfway there.

Trying again with medium tires to start on, doubt it will go much better.

 

[GT5Power]

Just tried this tyre strategy - worked great.

Glad it did! But are there other options?

My 10th win was really something else... It was my first time in an SR/S lobby so there weren't too many DR/B drivers. I got pole (Race C) with a 1:30.397 and the Spaniard in 2nd was also B/S. We pulled away from the field pretty quickly and I had to fend him off until he pitted on lap 4. I was on Softs, attempting a 5 lap stint and the 5th lap was not good, in fact I lost 2 seconds and came out of the pits behind him starting lap 6. I assume he put on Mediums, as I was able to cover the 2s gap within two laps and make the pass towards the end of lap 8. However, my 9th lap was suboptimal since the Softs were already giving out. I wasn't able to build up a gap and we dove into the pits together at the end of lap 9, with him about 1 second behind me. After that I was left to defend once again for the remainder of the race. The gap stayed around 1-1.5s until he found pace in the final two laps and we even made slight contact going through the chicane on lap 13. Neither of us was penalized though, and I went on to take the W by 1 second

So yeah, I don't know which strategy is better. Softs across the board makes for faster laps on good tires but a mediocre 5th lap of your long stint. 5M/2x4S is more consistent during the 5 lap stint, although you lose about a second per lap on the Mediums. If you can defend your position then it's worth it.

 

[Pigems]

I’m slowly clawing my way back lol, 2 Dubs on Race C so far today and one of them clean, also a few 2nds and 3rds in there as well, I really liking this race. It’s been some pretty good racing on C today so far, lots of clean racers out there. I think I’ll keep doing Race C mostly this week, Start/Soft, end of L5/Soft, end of L9/Soft is working really well, I even won one race by 23s.

B was a little rough though, one guy just didn’t want to be passed and kept bumping me every time I tried. After a lap and a half of this I finally said effe it and got inside him and nudged him off along the slight right bend in the straight coming back down the hill and off he went lol. I don’t typically do things like that but this guy was really getting on my nerves.

After all that I’m back up to 21k/DR and SR S for the time being, so it’s been a good day.

 

[ststav01]

Great game and great servers again just no comment, did 4 races (race C), 2 races I was in a really strong lobbies with top 10 people and started 12-13th, but managed to "start", the other two lobbies - was 3rd and 2nd and got disconnected..... one year later and still ****ed up bugs like this ridiculous disconnect, I'm really pissed with this ****

 

[sturk0167]

Three tough races, this week, and for different reasons.

Race A should be a slam dunk for me, because I do well at Lemans, and the car is easy to handle. I started entering without qualifying, and found that you have to be willing to take a beating to get near the front. I've been trying to focus on SR and not get reset. I figured I may as well start at the front to avoid damage. Decided to qualify, and got a 4:40.5. That has put me on the pole for most races, but I'm having an issue I've never had before. The start is killing me. Tire grip is fine, timing is not. In about a dozen races, I've had only one start that was as good as the guys next to me and behind me. I have confidence in being able to get around the track quickly, but when I get to turn 1 in 4th, 5th, 6th it's hard to make up time in a low-powered car within 1 lap. Of course, I am losing SR while trying to get to the front. I'm gonna see if there's somewhere to practice the standing grid start in arcade mode. I'm also gonna try to see if you can rev it up while holding the brakes, and then just release the brake. I haven't tried that, yet.

Race B, I've done a few times, and just cruised around at the back, to try to gain some SR. I think it's a fun track, but am not really competitive there.

Race C, I've done about 5 times, using a few different tire strategies. 1 stop for medium tires, and 2 stops for softs seem to produce about the same results. It's kind of boring to do 13 laps there, but I'm just using it for SR.

 

[Cerebral303]

Glad it did! But are there other options?

I did wonder this, there is a bit left on the tyres at each stop, but they had started to go off the previous lap so were past best. It just seems like you would lose too much time trying to wring an extra lap out of either the M or S.

Really, the pit stops are not that long, there is a fast run to the entry and you pit mid straight and no refueling so time lost is minimised despite the long straight.

In short, I think you got it right first time but if anyone wants to experiment with mad combos like H7/M6 or M7/S6 I don't think it would be faster but I would be interested.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I tried the Mustang on the mountain, only 7 entries, down to E/B. I made a slight mistake at Skyline, car started wavering. I caught it, yet not before the car behind me tapped me and then the wall, penalty for me. Now I'm not only losing DR, also SR, yay, And PSN is having trouble again today, I'm down to a 2 bar connection and get continuous errors trying to enter a race, then getting redirected to the psn status page with lots of red on it. PS Now is still green, nobody uses that

 

[Pigems]

Three tough races, this week, and for different reasons.

Race A should be a slam dunk for me, because I do well at Lemans, and the car is easy to handle. I started entering without qualifying, and found that you have to be willing to take a beating to get near the front. I've been trying to focus on SR and not get reset. I figured I may as well start at the front to avoid damage. Decided to qualify, and got a 4:40.5. That has put me on the pole for most races, but I'm having an issue I've never had before. The start is killing me. Tire grip is fine, timing is not. In about a dozen races, I've had only one start that was as good as the guys next to me and behind me. I have confidence in being able to get around the track quickly, but when I get to turn 1 in 4th, 5th, 6th it's hard to make up time in a low-powered car within 1 lap. Of course, I am losing SR while trying to get to the front. I'm gonna see if there's somewhere to practice the standing grid start in arcade mode. I'm also gonna try to see if you can rev it up while holding the brakes, and then just release the brake. I haven't tried that, yet.

Race B, I've done a few times, and just cruised around at the back, to try to gain some SR. I think it's a fun track, but am not really competitive there.

Race C, I've done about 5 times, using a few different tire strategies. 1 stop for medium tires, and 2 stops for softs seem to produce about the same results. It's kind of boring to do 13 laps there, but I'm just using it for SR.

Redline the engine with brake on, drop it into first on green, no TCS at all and it won’t spin a tire. I played around with it in Qualifying a bit, stopping mid track and trying different ways of taking off, it’s equal to whatever everyone else is doing depending on your timing and seems to be the best way to go.

The part that kills me about race A is that even with a 2s lead heading into the straightaway they still catch you by the end with drafting, then everyone crashes into each other stopping for the corner, only to do so again at then end of the next straight lol. Its a crazy race .

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Three tough races, this week, and for different reasons.

Race A should be a slam dunk for me, because I do well at Lemans, and the car is easy to handle. I started entering without qualifying, and found that you have to be willing to take a beating to get near the front. I've been trying to focus on SR and not get reset. I figured I may as well start at the front to avoid damage. Decided to qualify, and got a 4:40.5. That has put me on the pole for most races, but I'm having an issue I've never had before. The start is killing me. Tire grip is fine, timing is not. In about a dozen races, I've had only one start that was as good as the guys next to me and behind me. I have confidence in being able to get around the track quickly, but when I get to turn 1 in 4th, 5th, 6th it's hard to make up time in a low-powered car within 1 lap. Of course, I am losing SR while trying to get to the front. I'm gonna see if there's somewhere to practice the standing grid start in arcade mode. I'm also gonna try to see if you can rev it up while holding the brakes, and then just release the brake. I haven't tried that, yet.

Race B, I've done a few times, and just cruised around at the back, to try to gain some SR. I think it's a fun track, but am not really competitive there.

Race C, I've done about 5 times, using a few different tire strategies. 1 stop for medium tires, and 2 stops for softs seem to produce about the same results. It's kind of boring to do 13 laps there, but I'm just using it for SR.

So much that!!! That's what you are doing wrong lol! Sorry, didn't think of that when I replied earlier.

 

[Zowy52]

You talking about during FIA qualifying?

No it was during the daily race qualifying for the daily race as Sarthe.

 

[VeeDoubleU]

No it was during the daily race qualifying for the daily race as Sarthe.

Did you disconnect or quit a race just beforehand?

 

[TTM]

No it was during the daily race qualifying for the daily race as Sarthe.

Wow, that’s so weird.
Never had sr depleted in qualifying like that.
I suppose you would know, but you sure it was the qualifying that did it, and not a previous race that you haven’t noticed?

 

[sturk0167]

Redline the engine with brake on, drop it into first on green, no TCS at all and it won’t spin a tire. I played around with it in Qualifying a bit, stopping mid track and trying different ways of taking off, it’s equal to whatever everyone else is doing depending on your timing and seems to be the best way to go.

The part that kills me about race A is that even with a 2s lead heading into the straightaway they still catch you by the end with drafting, then everyone crashes into each other stopping for the corner, only to do so again at then end of the next straight lol. Its a crazy race .

So much that!!! That's what you are doing wrong lol! Sorry, didn't think of that when I replied earlier.

Thank you guys for confirming the missing piece. I can't believe I never thought of that.

 

[Zowy52]

Did you disconnect or quit a race just beforehand?

No, I actually had a pretty good race. I finished up one position. The change showed up on the grid board after qualifying ended and before the actual race start,