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sturk0167
Sven just got called a rookie, by some idiot in the post-race chat. :lol:
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People in glass houses ;). We've seen you drive now... you drive like a DR/D :p.

Anticipation hung like a hangy thing while the crocs stared at the sand intently. Sharks patrolled the surf impatiently, all waiting for the Hatch.

I took on "that British track" (throws salt over shoulder) with GM's plastic fantastic. After 6 laps of qualifying I still couldn't quite beat my R8 time. I came within half a second, and optimum was a hair faster, so I didn't feel I was cheating using my R8 time 👍. That put me P7/16 on a grid of DR/Ds with the exception of a lost DR/A+ and A in P1 and 2.

The start had me pointed not quite strait, but I had already compensated for that and got off to a clean start. I was doing ok... till I reached Surtees, where I found the sand :banghead:. I drop down to P12, then get knocked off (it was just a tap) at Hawthorn....and into the sand again. I get to the next corner... Westfield and you guessed it...into the sand again :banghead::banghead:. I rejoined the race P13 and then dropped to P14 whilst getting back up to speed. I was stuck behind a Mac, but it was more like a Mack. I just couldn't get a run on him because he kept crawling round certain corners and moving across in my way before I could get the power down and pass. After two laps of this I finally got past and could focus on trying to stay on the track and circulate. I was a bit surprised to find myself closing in on people ahead. I figured with the time I lost to the Mac they would be long gone. Lap 4 and 5 people started dropping off and I passed the final pirouetting car at the penalty zone. I crossed P8 with no penalties and a blue SR.

SR unchanged, DR up a couple of hundred. Another day above DR 1 :dopey:.
 
It's getting harder to get the clean race bonus. The penalty system is stacked against clean racing.
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The inside car is always right is as bad as the car in front is always wrong. How much room do you expect me to leave PD?

The Ferrari was fun to drive, although so easy to get into a little skid and lose lots of time
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I managed a 1:25.265 lap with clear road (after getting punted off) yet any correction to avoid another car means 10ths lost.
 
Brands is sucking my will to live. Maybe I should start doing Race A- how are people enjoying that one?

I think today I'll do Nation's Cup since it is Gr3 at Monza since I got so much practice last week.
 
NevilleNobody
THIS. I understand there are difficult scenarios for the system to make sense of but this is straight forward, i don't see the confusion. Happens to me EVERY RACE and most often, no penalty. It should be a SOLID 10 seconds, solid. You will lose at least 5 for going off track at brands.
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At Brands, you have to be quite decisive when your opponent has a chance of getting the nose inside you on the fast turns.
You either A relinquish the spot before corner entry or B go defensive and shut the door so they can’t do that.
I ran vette there for FIA and shut the door on a very sketchy 911 twice.
He was going for that move. I shut the door to prevent him from sending me off.
That’s what many of these guys do they think one inch of nose is enough to establish corner rights.
I just shut the door.
The other thing you can do is turn into them, especially if you are in a stable car turn in on em and stay on brake a bit and turn the tables on them.
If you expect random joe to run side by side you’ll get offed every time.
That’s a big advantage to wheel. Imo much easier to deal with these situations once you know the tricks.
 
Gotta love that penalty system. Used the replay, so you can’t see the penalty, but I got a 3 second penalty for the turn 1 ‘incident’. I really don’t get it. Did everything to avoid first corner drama, someone brushes me from behind because he went off the racing line and I get a penalty (on the 18 sec mark). Needed to rant about that a little bit.

 
Groundfish
At Brands, you have to be quite decisive when your opponent has a chance of getting the nose inside you on the fast turns.
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Personally, i don't even try to pass people unless they make a clear error. You absolutely cannot pass at brands in such powerful cars unless the guy in front makes an error, there is just not enough runway, the turns are too fast and you need to carry too much momentum through each corner.

In saying that, errors do come, it's almost inevitable, even once the race settles if you stay behind someone they often mess up. Making a clean racing pass without errors is nigh on impossible imho.
 
NevilleNobody
Personally, i don't even try to pass people unless they make a clear error. You absolutely cannot pass at brands in such powerful cars unless the guy in front makes an error, there is just not enough runway, the turns are too fast and you need to carry too much momentum through each corner.

In saying that, errors do come, it's almost inevitable, even once the race settles if you stay behind someone they often mess up. Making a clean racing pass without errors is nigh on impossible imho.
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Yeah the typical style I do is like when we ran Nurb GP.
However if you don’t get a perfect exit going up the hill at Brands and someone gets the draft into the right hander they can get over optimistic.
It’s irritating to deal with.
There’s so many offs at that track and also everyone thinks the 911 is so great...To me it’s slow.
I’m doing qual in the rs01, but it’ll be vette in race.
911 just bounce off the vette they hardly upset it.
The thing with Brands is knowing the turn ins and turning in and getting the suspension working.
If the cars loaded it’s so much more planted.
It’s a little tricky in the rs01 through the hairpin and off camber left so I doubt I will race it.
 
Invisigoth
Nice. Was trying to work out the livery on the Mustang. From that distance it looks a bit like the livery I did for Bathurst.
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I knocked up the Mustang livery at the weekend. Based on the Aussie Supercar of Team Penske, but decals set for sport mode.

The Mustang is kicking it this year, so had to be my first livery for the GR3 Mustang.

Might do Ford 80s or 90s rally livery for the GR4 car.
 
Groundfish
Yeah the typical style I do is like when we ran Nurb GP.
However if you don’t get a perfect exit going up the hill at Brands and someone gets the draft into the right hander they can get over optimistic.
It’s irritating to deal with.
There’s so many offs at that track and also everyone thinks the 911 is so great...To me it’s slow.
I’m doing qual in the rs01, but it’ll be vette in race.
911 just bounce off the vette they hardly upset it.
The thing with Brands is knowing the turn ins and turning in and getting the suspension working.
If the cars loaded it’s so much more planted.
It’s a little tricky in the rs01 through the hairpin and off camber left so I doubt I will race it.
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I've done about 10 or 12 no-quali races at Brands, so far. The majority of people I've passed, are ones who crashed. Other than that, my passes have mostly been from out-braking other cars. Knowing which cars don't brake as well as yours, would be a big help.
 
Been having fun at Brands today with the 911 RSR. Started the morning with a 1:22.7xx which had me starting 2-4th every race. My strength is in consistency and on a track where passing is extremely tricky, I knew I needed to improve my quali time. Each time I’d get past the leaders when they messed up I could build a couple second lead and just manage the gap to the end.

That’s the other key here, if you can manage a gap do it, don’t try to bust out quali laps, you’ll usually regret it. Unless you’re an alien.

Got myself down to 1:22.4xx and 32nd in region, and I know I’ve got a few more tenths in the tank. Possible 21 if I link it all together based on my optimal. But this was good enough to secure pole the rest of my morning and 5 wins against some great/clean guys.

Also loving the new wheel. The difference between my old GT3 Fanatec and the CSL F1 is laughable. Consistency is amazing with this wheel.

NevilleNobody
Personally, i don't even try to pass people unless they make a clear error. You absolutely cannot pass at brands in such powerful cars unless the guy in front makes an error, there is just not enough runway, the turns are too fast and you need to carry too much momentum through each corner.

In saying that, errors do come, it's almost inevitable, even once the race settles if you stay behind someone they often mess up. Making a clean racing pass without errors is nigh on impossible imho.
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Same, my usual passing points are turn 2 (if they botched t1), t3.......and that’s pretty much it. Everything else is too high risk IMO and better to just sit on their butt till they mess up.
 
Deadpool
Been having fun at Brands today with the 911 RSR. Started the morning with a 1:22.7xx which had me starting 2-4th every race. My strength is in consistency and on a track where passing is extremely tricky, I knew I needed to improve my quali time. Each time I’d get past the leaders when they messed up I could build a couple second lead and just manage the gap to the end.

That’s the other key here, if you can manage a gap do it, don’t try to bust out quali laps, you’ll usually regret it. Unless you’re an alien.

Got myself down to 1:22.4xx and 32nd in region, and I know I’ve got a few more tenths in the tank. Possible 21 if I link it all together based on my optimal. But this was good enough to secure pole the rest of my morning and 5 wins against some great/clean guys.

Also loving the new wheel. The difference between my old GT3 Fanatec and the CSL F1 is laughable. Consistency is amazing with this wheel.



Same, my usual passing points are turn 2 (if they botched t1), t3.......and that’s pretty much it. Everything else is too high risk IMO and better to just sit on their butt till they mess up.
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You've been following me eh??
 
Shearzy
I do my passing on the back end corners. Lots of people are braking way too early, leaving RS wide open
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A lot of my passing on Brands came from nob heads making a braking line from the inside of the track to the outside cutting into my braking line and forcing me to ram them with a bump pass. Then these idiots would get angry with me like I was the head-case weave cutting directly into braking lines. Racing with these people is like trying to argue with someone who is intent at screaming at their own reflection.

I was able to crawl back into SR S, which was fun again except for the occasional penalty abusers which have a tendency to ruin 1 out of 4 races. I keep jostling between SR A and S now dependent on the temperament of the thin skinned drivers.
 
I feel like practicing in VR before doing Quali helped me adapt my line. Wish we could race in VR, it’s such a huge difference in consistency and even closer racing. The depth perception and FOV make turn 1 at Brands much simpler. You can really attack corners in VR. Looking forward to PS5 lol.
 
I’m not normally one to complain about penalties but are they more strict in Race A than the others or something? I don’t normally do A but as it’s Gr4 at Autopolis and my favourite TT was on offer I thought I’d chance my arm. When I was race B a couple of weeks back I had a storming week, highest DR to date, nice and clean, odd mistake. Now, in two races, I’ve gone from SR99 to 56. If I get tapped from behind, orange flag, if tap something in front, Orange flag, inside or outside on a corner, orange flag, he’ll, I think I got an orange flag just for driving round a corner at one point.

Hands up, a couple of ‘deserved pens’ and a rage quit didn’t help but a dive bomber clouted me and went off giving me 5 seconds too!

I know this ain’t news but I fancied a vent and it really does seem different to the race b a couple weeks back.

Back into the fray, I’ve not q’d for race b at brands, perhaps a tootle round at the back or two might help, but where’s the fun in that?
 
Taxrik
I’m not normally one to complain about penalties but are they more strict in Race A than the others or something? I don’t normally do A but as it’s Gr4 at Autopolis and my favourite TT was on offer I thought I’d chance my arm. When I was race B a couple of weeks back I had a storming week, highest DR to date, nice and clean, odd mistake. Now, in two races, I’ve gone from SR99 to 56. If I get tapped from behind, orange flag, if tap something in front, Orange flag, inside or outside on a corner, orange flag, he’ll, I think I got an orange flag just for driving round a corner at one point.

Hands up, a couple of ‘deserved pens’ and a rage quit didn’t help but a dive bomber clouted me and went off giving me 5 seconds too!

I know this ain’t news but I fancied a vent and it really does seem different to the race b a couple weeks back.

Back into the fray, I’ve not q’d for race b at brands, perhaps a tootle round at the back or two might help, but where’s the fun in that?
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I just had a very similar experience in the scirocco. Went 9th to 8th with one t1 bottle and some fun battling in between being punted around by a french dude in a tt. I took sr down for bumps he gave me in the back, him ramming me to the outside around corners. Y'all know i'm not on punting guys or stupid moves, my worst crime is a bit of flourish oversteer, but after my sporadic racing this week i'm down to sr B.

What do you guys think is the play to stop this slide before its outta hand? Jump in race C? I have always liked the RBJ in single player and time attack lobbies but haven't so much as looked at the race... Suzuka bretty scary
 
No races yesterday or today. Too lazy.

But I did wake up today wondering who Brand is? And why is there no apostrophe after "Brands"? And what's with the Hatch?

Turn's out "the name is thought to derive from 'de Brondehach', a Gaelic term: 'Bron' meaning wooded slope; 'hach', literally entrance to the forest)."

:dunce:
 
O604
No races yesterday or today. Too lazy.

But I did wake up today wondering who Brand is? And why is there no apostrophe after "Brands"? And what's with the Hatch?

Turn's out "the name is thought to derive from 'de Brondehach', a Gaelic term: 'Bron' meaning wooded slope; 'hach', literally entrance to the forest)."

:dunce:
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I looked up Goodwood. Apparently it means some wood. That’s good. From the English ‘good’ meaning good and ‘wood’ meaning wood.

(In Gaelic it means ‘free update likely to annoy some people for some reason’.)

Pigems
Man, it’s been over 36 hours now since I’ve done a lap. I think I’m starting to go through withdrawal. :lol:
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It’s been two hours since I did some laps. I’m just calming down.
 
Deadpool
Been having fun at Brands today with the 911 RSR. Started the morning with a 1:22.7xx which had me starting 2-4th every race. My strength is in consistency and on a track where passing is extremely tricky, I knew I needed to improve my quali time. Each time I’d get past the leaders when they messed up I could build a couple second lead and just manage the gap to the end.

That’s the other key here, if you can manage a gap do it, don’t try to bust out quali laps, you’ll usually regret it. Unless you’re an alien.

Got myself down to 1:22.4xx and 32nd in region, and I know I’ve got a few more tenths in the tank. Possible 21 if I link it all together based on my optimal. But this was good enough to secure pole the rest of my morning and 5 wins against some great/clean guys.

Also loving the new wheel. The difference between my old GT3 Fanatec and the CSL F1 is laughable. Consistency is amazing with this wheel.
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I am racing with guys who are running 1:22.4 in the race!!

My issue is that I take a lap to get into rhythm . Even with races where i have won this week by from 4 to 10 seconds (after coming last against the good guys I have been put against slower cars) the 2nd car is close to me after the first lap (like 0.5 to 0.8 seconds). Then I get my rhythm and I drive right away.

My braking style doesn't suit racing I reckon. I ease into the brakes, rather than stomp on them. That can open a gap before the corner - I will have the same gap after the corner, but it temps people.

After a few laps I suspect I am hitting the brakes harder but by then its too late. I need to change my fundamental technique if I am to be competitive with the good guys. The problem for me is that hitting them hard is very different and will take me time. It also upsets the car balance (at least the low polar moment mid engined cars I prefer) a fare bit.

Some time ago I did some laps with the ABS off, and I was faster with them off, except for slow corners where I lock the tyres and run wide or off. I gave it up but I should either try that technique or starting hitting the brakes really hard as my base technique.

The problem is I love the smooth style of driving, with throttle control and little wheel movement. Flow circuits suit me. Accurate precision punch and squirt circuits don't except where good throttle exit control is important. But at the top level people I have looked at after the race, they just don't drive like that. I need to make a big change I reckon.
 
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