"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Deadpool]

I have said it before, and I will say it again, QUALIFY. When I mean qualify, I mean seriously do your best to get yourself the best possible starting position. It's not a super human endeavour. If you take the time to get your Q time up to snuff, you will start better, finish better, and race better people.

If I am faced with mid pack or worse starting positions, I go back to work and get my lap time down. It is essential and, most importantly, it is how you take control of the situation.

Agreed, if I don’t qualify in the top 5 I don’t bother. I go back and run more laps. Typically I won’t even enter a race until I’m within a second of the fastest time.

This isn’t to say that all people who qualify at the top are good/clean racers. A lot struggle with consistency, and some are fast but have no clue how to pass. It’s the ones who are consistent yet dirty you need to watch for.

But when you get into a good group it’s some great great racing at the front.

 

[MaxAttack]

Race B has saved my ass, back to SR S in just 4 races.

Been using the Corvette and the Genesis as I figured i'd drive a safe car to try and not die. Man, those brakes on the Corvette, on both actually but less so with the Hyundai, they hug you like mama bear when you're in the **** with cars flung each side of the track. The Hyundai won't punch in the chest so hard, but it's stable and easy to carry speed through those corners with short braking zones which Brands has plenty of. These aren't good qualifying cars - my hottest lap is 1.26.1xx in the Genesis, good for 9th-15th ish in the B/C lobbies im in - but they are great race cars. The stability and assuredness of the braking and handling gives you more options when the **** gets crazy at paddock hill and the hairpins. I've been making clean overtakes on cars that are actively t boning each other with their wheels spinning.

good battles, good progress, now to address my DR somehow...

EDIT: Verdict for the week is basically this; don't enter Understeer Nationals again (race A). It's understeer around every corner and, if my profile pic doesn't clue you in, i'd much prefer to deal with the opposite... Maybe I should try race C...

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I have said it before, and I will say it again, QUALIFY. When I mean qualify, I mean seriously do your best to get yourself the best possible starting position. It's not a super human endeavour. If you take the time to get your Q time up to snuff, you will start better, finish better, and race better people.

If I am faced with mid pack or worse starting positions, I go back to work and get my lap time down. It is essential and, most importantly, it is how you take control of the situation. I've raced you and there is no reason why you should be racing in the B class other than your own efforts to put yourself there.

It's not like starting from the front is any less exciting! It's HARD!! The struggle is real.

That's my plan after getting all 35 clean race bonuses from the back. It's going well this week.

That race did have another target for @sturk0167

If you can't take it, then don't dish it out. The penalty system got it right there, then he fails at his revenge punt.

Unfortunately my clean streak was broken by this

I clearly rammed this out of control driver off the road, SR Down for me

WRX cleared as well. RNG makes me drive the Huracan last. After that I'll qualify and go through all 35 cars again and compare how it goes on the front vs the back. Too bad you can't qualify per car as some will not be able to keep up.

I prefer to race from the back since it makes every race different. Start on pole, finish ahead, that doesn't keep my interest very long.

 

[CrimsonKing]

Maybe I've been lucky but race B has been nothing but clean races this week and all of them very close racing. It's been great sharing the track with all these gentlemen (and even a lady if I'm not mistaken). The only times I've crashed have been because I crumble under pressure.
Many thanks guys.

 

[kjeldsen]

Maybe I've been lucky but race B has been nothing but clean races this week and all of them very close racing. It's been great sharing the track with all these gentlemen (and even a lady if I'm not mistaken). The only times I've crashed have been because I crumble under pressure.
Many thanks guys.

Exactly this, not a single dirty racer so far.

 

[Deadpool]

Maybe I've been lucky but race B has been nothing but clean races this week and all of them very close racing. It's been great sharing the track with all these gentlemen (and even a lady if I'm not mistaken). The only times I've crashed have been because I crumble under pressure.
Many thanks guys.

Same, only one or two small instances I can think of. Apart from that it’s been really clean intense races. Usually crashes have been from people crumbling under pressure.

I prefer to race from the back since it makes every race different. Start on pole, finish ahead, that doesn't keep my interest very long.

If the races were longer and with tire wear I’d race from the back now and then. Especially if I’m winning by healthy margins. The Porsche 356 last week at Brands I should have started last because I was wrecking that field. Majority didn’t know how to keep that car from sliding.

 

[Redsea666]

Exactly this, not a single dirty racer so far.

I had a terrible Tuesday at Brands and blamed one bad race on another car. Saved the replay, watched it, and guess what? Entirely my fault! Brands is so technical to nail with traffic (especially T1 for me). I'm coming back tonight with a better attitude and more sleep. Just keep it cool and let everyone else make mistakes.... that's my new mantra.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I guess I get to race all the dirty But that's to be expected from the back. Still it seems the penalty system has been relaxed again. Why no penalty here? The two cars coming from behind are B/S as well, they door bang a bit and then I get punted into the sand. Both ended the race without a red dot and blue S.

That took me by surprise as I was watching the laggy car in front (did that whole race). Hence the oh 🤬 what do I press reaction lol.

Anyway that didn't spoil the clean race bonus, project complete.

In the random order as driven from the back.

Best lap of 2 races per car except the obvious pretty much identical cars (TCS 2, ABS default, DS4)

1:24.078 Audi R8
1:24.460 Lexus RC F 17
1:24.505 Ford GT LM Spec II
1:24.614 Subaru WRX
1:24.695 Nissan GT-R
1:24.711 Lexus RC F 16
1:24.735 BMW M3 Power
1:24.766 BMW M3 11
1:24.773 Lamborghini Huracan
1:24.826 Dodge Viper SRT
1:24.834 Ford Mustang
1:24.858 Mercedes AMG
1:24.883 Volkswagen VGT
1:24.891 Honda NSX
1:24.905 Hyundai Genesis
1:24.965 Porsche 911
1:24.972 Mercedes SLS AMG
1:25.052 Toyota GR Supra
1:25.066 Alfa Romeo 4C
1:25.069 Mazda Atenza
1:25.073 McLaren BMW
1:25.175 Volkswagen Beetle
1:25.199 Aston Martin
1:25.201 McLaren 650S
1:25.265 Ferrari 458
1:25.277 Renault R.S.01
1:25.337 Citroen GT
1:25.338 Jaguar F-Type
1:25.370 Mitsubishi Lancer
1:25.373 Peugeot VGT
1:25.395 Chevrolet Corvette C7
1:25.519 Peugeot RCZ
1:25.635 Toyota FT-1
1:25.698 BMW Z4

I see I forgot to write the time down of the BMW M3 Walkenhorst but it was very similar as the other BMWs. Only the Z4 is an outlier where I was stuck behind traffic both races.

Now do the whole thing again with a qualy time (Later)

 

[Pigems]

I’m most cases I don’t find my finish position changes much between front and back starts, unless I start on pole or end up in a super fast room that is. I can start at the back or the front and I still usually end up in a similar spot in the end, providing the race is long enough anyways.

 

[Voodoovaj]

That's one way to look at it. Another would be for you to enter his world, and try racing from the back. In spite of his frustrations, it's what he enjoys. To each, their own.

Sure, but @Sven Jurgens posed the question "how do I avoid this?". You avoid it by not being there. If you want to be there, you take the bad with the good.

 

[05XR8]

Like I posted in the undocumented changes thread, you can practice with much improved AI. The race at GW is only with Tyre/Fuel wear at 1x. Autopolis was at Fuel 5x, Tyres 10x. Both Heavy Damage.

Just showing improved AI at newer tracks. Tighter pack racing and even when passed, AI don't go into limp home mode. I went back to Mount Panorama and there is no improvement. Again, I'm finding AI are much improved at newer locations.

Autopolis


Goodwood

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Sure, but @Sven Jurgens posed the question "how do I avoid this?". You avoid it by not being there. If you want to be there, you take the bad with the good.

Actually my question was: What do you do about these people?

Dive bombs happen at the front as well. The question is, do you avoid a dive bomb and let the diver through unpunished, reinforcing their idea of making a 'good' pass. Or, let them hit you and let the penalty system give them a slap on the wrist while possibly ruining your own race. The fact is, he kept doing it in the next 2 races (perhaps longer, I had to go) so obviously he thought it was a valid strategy since most people try to stay on the road when getting dive bombed, thus no penalty.

You're in favor of playing the whistle, which is what he is doing there. But he managed to turn a clean racing room into a mess by the 3rd race. That kind of behavior rubs off, tempers get flared and I'm glad I had some real stuff to do instead of more races like that.

This certainly can't be a valid overtake in real racing

Yet it works in GT Sport. The inside car is always right as long as the outside car doesn't go off. He's simply playing the whistle. The other cars he dive bombed didn't move out of the way, but still stayed on the track. Only 1 out of 4 went off each race so he did end up with one penalty, far from enough to discourage his rate of success.

So what do you do with people that play the penalty system to their advantage.

 

[sturk0167]

That's my plan after getting all 35 clean race bonuses from the back. It's going well this week.

That race did have another target for @sturk0167

If you can't take it, then don't dish it out. The penalty system got it right there, then he fails at his revenge punt.

Unfortunately my clean streak was broken by this

I clearly rammed this out of control driver off the road, SR Down for me

WRX cleared as well. RNG makes me drive the Huracan last. After that I'll qualify and go through all 35 cars again and compare how it goes on the front vs the back. Too bad you can't qualify per car as some will not be able to keep up.

I prefer to race from the back since it makes every race different. Start on pole, finish ahead, that doesn't keep my interest very long.

@ 0:56 What an idiot! He needs punting practice. He wanted to break the rules by punting you, but at the same time, stay within track limits to do it. What he needed to do there was cut through the grass to get the angle on you.

 

[gthelmi2398]

What is going on with Race B? I drive Qualifying with times around 1:23 und low 1:24 in a row. All the days now. In the race I go the same line and I always spin around in every race.
I won't race it anymore. There are enough Events in GT League.

 

[GT5Power]

Good races next week! Goodwood right off the bad is very nice. Have fun racing Gr.3 @ Seaside guys

That's the only cure but then you'll find yourself hotlaping every race until some aliens queue up. And then you'll ask yourself: - why did you put all that arduous work in improving only to not being able to properly race? .

So you'll start sandbaging your qualifying time, maybe even not qualify to begin with. And so you'll blaze past some backmarkers holding you up -- hoping they don't get offended and ram you clean off on the upcoming turn.

Then you'll get to the Bs: a lot of them are nice but evidently lack the pace and can be quite overzealous, having odd brake points as a hallmark and the classic divebombs. The B driver will seldom yield, despite running 2-4s slower per lap. They will fight rapaciously for their position: blocking, weaving, brake checks... it's like the smorgasbord at a fine soirée - you've got it all (but the girl ).

The As are essentially an upgraded B due to one of two things:
(1) - they are more advanced mechanically and possess higher composure/consistency.
(2) - they are essentially the rapid hyperaggressive B with the extended knowledge in gaming the penalty system.

The A+ is one of the four, either:
(1) composed, very consistent, clean, capable, strategic, lacks the cutting edge pace and ambition.
(2) the aggressive type; has higher maximum pace than (1) but is less consistent, borderline dirty, at times reckless. An expert at abusing the penalty system when needed, the master of tiny nudges and punts.
(3) the Alien. Has it all but contrary to mister #2 does not rely on dirty tricks.
(4) the superstar Alien. The pinnacle tier which consists of players you can count on one hand in this game! These are the "Alien" to the Alien !

I hope you took joy in reading this as much as it took me compiling this little tier list (albeit admittedly straying from the topic).

P.S: Which type are you guys?

Nice tier list I'm closest to the first A+. I've gotten much more composed and consistent than before although there's still room for improvement there. Pace-wise I can actually get close to the aliens given enough practice, however I can rarely replicate that in a race, so one could say I lack the "cutting-edge pace" in race conditions (but not the ambition ) When I get back on track, I'm going to aim for 60000 DR. I think my upper limit isn't far above that.

 

[De_Breuk]

As Suzuka is one of my favorite tracks and usually I’m top 3-8 in my group (B/S) when the daily race is at Suzuka I was really looking forward to this weeks daily race C.

But I find myself at the back of the pack each race. I’m only able to do 2:03-2:04 in races and during races I noticed that it seems that I’m losing most of the time coming out of corners (and then the straight after). I tried applying the throttle earlier but this mostly leads to more oversteer. Any tips on this? Do people use traction control on the Red Bull Junior?

 

[Deadpool]

This certainly can't be a valid overtake in real racing

Yet it works in GT Sport. The inside car is always right as long as the outside car doesn't go off. He's simply playing the whistle. The other cars he dive bombed didn't move out of the way, but still stayed on the track. Only 1 out of 4 went off each race so he did end up with one penalty, far from enough to discourage his rate of success.

So what do you do with people that play the penalty system to their advantage.

For these types it’s hard, I watch my mirrors a lot on lap 1 to gauge the type of drivers I’m dealing with and where they are quick etc. So without prior races, the first dive bomb usually catches me off guard but I see it’s going to be close and I tighten in even more on them. For T2 at Brands this trick works as you can keep momentum and hold the outside line which gives you the advantage in T3.

Next race I know to be more defensive. But I think some of these guys are also just idiots who don’t know that you can’t use the same brake zone as your hot laps when there’s a car in front of you.

If they keep it up I usually get more aggressive with them and force the issue in a corner that will compromise their straight line speed. T3/4/9 you can take the inside line and push just a little wide, still leaving them room to stay on track, but it pushes them into a compromised angle and they will lose 2-3 tenths easily.

 

[Pigems]

What is going on with Race B? I drive Qualifying with times around 1:23 und low 1:24 in a row. All the days now. In the race I go the same line and I always spin around in every race.
I won't race it anymore. There are enough Events in GT League.

Are you accounting for being in someone’s slipstream in races? You lose downforce when you’re in a slipstream, so turning, braking and acceleration need to be adjusted accordingly.

As Suzuka is one of my favorite tracks and usually I’m top 3-8 in my group (B/S) when the daily race is at Suzuka I was really looking forward to this weeks daily race C.

But I find myself at the back of the pack each race. I’m only able to do 2:03-2:04 in races and during races I noticed that it seems that I’m losing most of the time coming out of corners (and then the straight after). I tried applying the throttle earlier but this mostly leads to more oversteer. Any tips on this? Do people use traction control on the Red Bull Junior?

If you can post a video of your Q lap I’m sure we can find you some time somewhere.

 

[Stencedaddy]

Race B has been so unforgiving for me. Touch the grass GG. Guy spins out and touches me, penalty for me GG. So far my favourite cars for this are the M3 and the Mustang. just dropped my qualy to 1:24.707 from 1:25.4 in the M3. Missed the 6:10 race so I'm gonna smoke a cone and hit the 6:30. My last race today i placed 2nd after starting 8th. this was after many races of crashing and finishing at the back. I might finally understand brands.

 

[vvise]

Actually my question was: What do you do about these people?

Dive bombs happen at the front as well. The question is, do you avoid a dive bomb and let the diver through unpunished, reinforcing their idea of making a 'good' pass. Or, let them hit you and let the penalty system give them a slap on the wrist while possibly ruining your own race. The fact is, he kept doing it in the next 2 races (perhaps longer, I had to go) so obviously he thought it was a valid strategy since most people try to stay on the road when getting dive bombed, thus no penalty.

You're in favor of playing the whistle, which is what he is doing there. But he managed to turn a clean racing room into a mess by the 3rd race. That kind of behavior rubs off, tempers get flared and I'm glad I had some real stuff to do instead of more races like that.

This certainly can't be a valid overtake in real racing

Yet it works in GT Sport. The inside car is always right as long as the outside car doesn't go off. He's simply playing the whistle. The other cars he dive bombed didn't move out of the way, but still stayed on the track. Only 1 out of 4 went off each race so he did end up with one penalty, far from enough to discourage his rate of success.

So what do you do with people that play the penalty system to their advantage.

Don't leave the window open, it's the only way. These drivers will go for the smallest gap from the longest distance back.

 

[gthelmi2398]

Are you accounting for being in someone’s slipstream in races? You lose downforce when you’re in a slipstream, so turning, braking and acceleration need to be adjusted accordingly.

It is also in the case I am the leader

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I qualified for Brands Hatch in the Audi. Respect to those that can keep concentration up lap after lap, tedious and boring is how I would describe it. I wish you could qualify in VR, see no reason why not. There time flies and you don't notice that annoying up down arrow all the time!

Anyways got 1:23.616 with optimal of 1:23.2 but my concentration was long gone to reach that. The RNG picked the Genesis for my first attempt, starting on pole. This might be painful.

Don't leave the window open, it's the only way. These drivers will go for the smallest gap from the longest distance back.

Yep, that's what I did in the next race, but it costs me 0.5 sec per lap, so bye bye catching up to the front.


It turned out to be a boring race

Never saw anyone, just like qualifying lol.

SLS AMG up next. 2nd behind an AMG, now we have a race!

Nope, pole crashed before Surtees, 3rd crashed end of lap 1. Won with 6 sec lead. Another time trial. Citroen GT next, one of the slowest in my list.

 

[astrarobotica]

I usually only lurk around here but I see a lot of the people I get matched with are active on here so I made an account!

The first couple days I hated the Brands Hatch race, but I quickly got comfortable with the track and I'm really enjoying it. The racing just feels intense and it's usually pretty close. The punts (from my experience) haven't been as bad as Monza last week, but people still go for some pretty stupid moves. Most of my races today and yesterday have been very good though.

 

[Hasnain282]

I usually only lurk around here but I see a lot of the people I get matched with are active on here so I made an account!

The first couple days I hated the Brands Hatch race, but I quickly got comfortable with the track and I'm really enjoying it. The racing just feels intense and it's usually pretty close. The punts (from my experience) haven't been as bad as Monza last week, but people still go for some pretty stupid moves. Most of my races today and yesterday have been very good though.

Welcome

 

[Melbourne Park]

...The Porsche 356 last week at Brands I should have started last because I was wrecking that field. Majority didn’t know how to keep that car from sliding.

I was equal 42nd in the World in the 356 two weeks ago, good for an old geeza. It is disappointing to me that the traction control light gets turned off when you have TC set at zero. Because the light should flash when your drive wheels are slipping when TC is turned off. That would assist better driving, and explain to most of us what is going on.

Sven:
Your times - these will be wrong now. I think the game is easier now, quite a bit actually. And I think the BOP scores are far more equal now. For instance in Asia when I last looked, there was just one R8 in the top 10. The top car by some margin was the Honda. 2nd - some 0.2 behind the leader's 01:21.483 with a 01:21.646 - in the Renault! The third car with a 01:21.680 was a Mazda. The Audi is now very stable and if it touches the curbs or even grass it no longer instantaneously spins - I am able to catch it now if it happens to step out of line.

I reckon your speeds will be different now and I look forward to them very much!! 👍.

I reckon the deviation in times will be much less ie the cars should be more equal now ...

1 01:24.1 Audi R8
2 01:24.5 Lexus RC F 17
3 01:24.5 Ford GT LM Spec II
4 01:24.6 Subaru WRX
5 01:24.7 Nissan GT-R
6 01:24.7 Lexus RC F 16
7 01:24.7 BMW M3 Power
8 01:24.8 BMW M3 11
9 01:24.8 Lamborghini Huracan
10 01:24.8 Dodge Viper SRT
11 01:24.8 Ford Mustang
12 01:24.9 Mercedes AMG
13 01:24.9 Volkswagen VGT
14 01:24.9 Honda NSX
15 01:24.9 Hyundai Genesis
16 01:25.0 Porsche 911
17 01:25.0 Mercedes SLS AMG
18 01:25.1 Toyota GR Supra
19 01:25.1 Alfa Romeo 4C
20 01:25.1 Mazda Atenza
21 01:25.1 McLaren BMW
22 01:25.2 Volkswagen Beetle
23 01:25.2 Aston Martin
24 01:25.2 McLaren 650S
25 01:25.3 Ferrari 458
26 01:25.3 Renault R.S.01
27 01:25.3 Citroen GT
28 01:25.3 Jaguar F-Type
29 01:25.4 Mitsubishi Lancer
30 01:25.4 Peugeot VGT
31 01:25.4 Chevrolet Corvette C7
32 01:25.5 Peugeot RCZ
33 01:25.6 Toyota FT-1
34 01:25.7 BMW Z4

You deserve a permanent Gold star above your car when you race, and a floating logo that floats above your car for the whole race. PD should do this for all the work you do for us guys.

And oh to Voodoorqj - with respect - you advised with good intentions Sven to qualify - he's been an A+ before so he plays enough to need to have variety. Unlike the top Aliens he is not obsessed with race perfection!!!

 

[CrimsonKing]

I can almost hear the chicane of death filing its teeth for next week.

 

[Shearzy]

Well ladies and germs ... I finally won a race this week. Hold your applause till after please

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I was equal 42nd in the World in the 356 two weeks ago, good for an old geeza. It is disappointing to me that the traction control light gets turned off when you have TC set at zero. Because the light should flash when your drive wheels are slipping when TC is turned off. That would assist better driving, and explain to most of us what is going on.

Sven:
Your times - these will be wrong now. I think the game is easier now, quite a bit actually. And I think the BOP scores are far more equal now. For instance in Asia when I last looked, there was just one R8 in the top 10. The top car by some margin was the Honda. 2nd - some 0.2 behind the leader's 01:21.483 with a 01:21.646 - in the Renault! The third car with a 01:21.680 was a Mazda. The Audi is now very stable and if it touches the curbs or even grass it no longer instantaneously spins - I am able to catch it now if it happens to step out of line.

I reckon your speeds will be different now and I look forward to them very much!! 👍.

1 01:24.1 Audi R8
2 01:24.5 Lexus RC F 17
3 01:24.5 Ford GT LM Spec II
4 01:24.6 Subaru WRX
5 01:24.7 Nissan GT-R
6 01:24.7 Lexus RC F 16
7 01:24.7 BMW M3 Power
8 01:24.8 BMW M3 11
9 01:24.8 Lamborghini Huracan
10 01:24.8 Dodge Viper SRT
11 01:24.8 Ford Mustang
12 01:24.9 Mercedes AMG
13 01:24.9 Volkswagen VGT
14 01:24.9 Honda NSX
15 01:24.9 Hyundai Genesis
16 01:25.0 Porsche 911
17 01:25.0 Mercedes SLS AMG
18 01:25.1 Toyota GR Supra
19 01:25.1 Alfa Romeo 4C
20 01:25.1 Mazda Atenza
21 01:25.1 McLaren BMW
22 01:25.2 Volkswagen Beetle
23 01:25.2 Aston Martin
24 01:25.2 McLaren 650S
25 01:25.3 Ferrari 458
26 01:25.3 Renault R.S.01
27 01:25.3 Citroen GT
28 01:25.3 Jaguar F-Type
29 01:25.4 Mitsubishi Lancer
30 01:25.4 Peugeot VGT
31 01:25.4 Chevrolet Corvette C7
32 01:25.5 Peugeot RCZ
33 01:25.6 Toyota FT-1
34 01:25.7 BMW Z4

You deserve a permanent Gold star above your car when you race, and a floating logo that floats above your car for the whole race. PD should do this for all the work you do for us guys.

And oh to the guy with good intentions advised Sven to qualify - he's been an A+ before so he plays enough to need to have variety. Unlike the top Aliens he is not obsessed with race perfection!!!

Thanks haha. The first two cars I raced already set better times than before. No traffic while leading, but also no one to draft.
Respect to those seeking perfection, yet I much rather spend my time racing. So far another time trial

It's the wrong time for competition since my DR dropped from racing from last. The SR.S rooms are split now so I'm driving with B/S drivers at an A/S pace :/ It should get better later and/or when my DR goes up. (19K atm)

The Citroen GT is actually even slower now. I started on pole and finished third. 2nd passed clean, 3rd used me as a guide rail, 4th kept bumping me then use me as a guide rail at the last turn so I got on his inside for T1 and left less room than I usually do. He couldn't adjust and went off, no pealty for me. Still a red S from all this bumps. The expression on my car about sums it up.

 

[astrarobotica]

Because the light should flash when your drive wheels are slipping when TC is turned off. That would assist better driving, and explain to most of us what is going on.

I bought Assetto Corsa on sale this week and I noticed the RSR has blue LEDs on the dash that function this way. I always wondered what they were there for since they don't do anything in GT Sport haha.

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

I was equal 42nd in the World in the 356 two weeks ago, good for an old geeza. It is disappointing to me that the traction control light gets turned off when you have TC set at zero. Because the light should flash when your drive wheels are slipping when TC is turned off. That would assist better driving, and explain to most of us what is going on.

Sven:
Your times - these will be wrong now. I think the game is easier now, quite a bit actually. And I think the BOP scores are far more equal now. For instance in Asia when I last looked, there was just one R8 in the top 10. The top car by some margin was the Honda. 2nd - some 0.2 behind the leader's 01:21.483 with a 01:21.646 - in the Renault! The third car with a 01:21.680 was a Mazda. The Audi is now very stable and if it touches the curbs or even grass it no longer instantaneously spins - I am able to catch it now if it happens to step out of line.

I reckon your speeds will be different now and I look forward to them very much!! 👍.

1 01:24.1 Audi R8
2 01:24.5 Lexus RC F 17
3 01:24.5 Ford GT LM Spec II
4 01:24.6 Subaru WRX
5 01:24.7 Nissan GT-R
6 01:24.7 Lexus RC F 16
7 01:24.7 BMW M3 Power
8 01:24.8 BMW M3 11
9 01:24.8 Lamborghini Huracan
10 01:24.8 Dodge Viper SRT
11 01:24.8 Ford Mustang
12 01:24.9 Mercedes AMG
13 01:24.9 Volkswagen VGT
14 01:24.9 Honda NSX
15 01:24.9 Hyundai Genesis
16 01:25.0 Porsche 911
17 01:25.0 Mercedes SLS AMG
18 01:25.1 Toyota GR Supra
19 01:25.1 Alfa Romeo 4C
20 01:25.1 Mazda Atenza
21 01:25.1 McLaren BMW
22 01:25.2 Volkswagen Beetle
23 01:25.2 Aston Martin
24 01:25.2 McLaren 650S
25 01:25.3 Ferrari 458
26 01:25.3 Renault R.S.01
27 01:25.3 Citroen GT
28 01:25.3 Jaguar F-Type
29 01:25.4 Mitsubishi Lancer
30 01:25.4 Peugeot VGT
31 01:25.4 Chevrolet Corvette C7
32 01:25.5 Peugeot RCZ
33 01:25.6 Toyota FT-1
34 01:25.7 BMW Z4

You deserve a permanent Gold star above your car when you race, and a floating logo that floats above your car for the whole race. PD should do this for all the work you do for us guys.

And oh to the guy with good intentions advised Sven to qualify - he's been an A+ before so he plays enough to need to have variety. Unlike the top Aliens he is not obsessed with race perfection!!!

I bet Sven (which by the way means "Young warrior" in Old norse (an antiquated Nordic language)) has more online GT sport races under his belt than anyone here! I envy his proclivity for racing in defiance of the puntfest he endures. A true warrior indeed!