"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Qyn]

I'm done.

Two races. Two.

The rammers are out in force at DT. Maggiore is too short to be fun. So, I'm just doing hot laps, and hoping next weeks race C isn't halfwit central.

Just had the same thing happen to me last night .

 

[NoStopN]

I prefer to drive with a wheel/pedal set (though mine is broken at the moment).They make mounting stands for couch drivers: https://www.google.com/search?q=rac...1ZHkAhXMXCsKHS_1AUQQ_AUIEigC&biw=1920&bih=926

 

[bdubclub]

From real life racing experience but mostly on motorcycles you get a penalty but you also have to deal with the other driver after the race witch you dont have in GTS

Ahhh, a fellow former motorcycle racer , that’s cool man. Now when are you going to make that EU account??

 

[golfer07840]

Sorry I though your point was that the real life cars (with maths and examples given) would get better fuel consumption than those in the game, which is why I pointed out the fuel multiplier.

If your point is that your not a fan of the multipliers and the race should just be 10 laps with 1x fuel and tyre wear, then that's a little different and I have a few thoughts on that.

There are some people (myself included) that like the various pit strategies that come into play in longer races. If no multipliers were used then the race would have to be 70 odd laps, which I doubt would be too popular. PD's answer to this is the multipliers.

The problem we have in my eyes is that the races aren't quite long enough to ever really justify a pit stop. The time lost pitting is far greater than the time lost driving conservatively to make tyres and fuel last the distance. There was a time when the balance in this was better, and certainly FIA races used to be longer and pit stops were much more common than they are now.

I hope PD can address this as I get that many are not a fan of driving conservatively for what feels like a relatively short race. Either adding a few more laps, or speeding up the actual pit stop could rectify this.

I have to be honest, I decided to give e Race C a go. Used the Lambo, had to make 1 stop for gas, I did have to short shift and use the fuel map a pinch, but I liked it. It made it interesting. Could be the car/track combo as well, but overall a good experience. Once I pitted I had to use fuel map 1 to make up for getting punted on the 1st lap, so crossed the finish with .1 gas left

BTW, Race B is very strange. Qualifying is like an ice rink. During the race? Much better grip. Usually I find it to be the opposite. Grip during QT and then slippery during the race.

 

[kemmac]

Race C... Thrice I was ahead of car behide me that rear end and force me out of track. Thats not the worst. The worst is I got penalty 2 sec, 3 sec, and 5 sec. Its total bewilderment and decide thats it I will not tolerate the penalty keep changing for worst. My perspective and believe the fault lies on programer who created the penalty system. Because I know it can be done better than the current as well some in past.Sure we all driver have faults of our own. Its that part of game right but not their penalty output. Get penalty for rear end. Come on!!!

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Ahhh, a fellow former motorcycle racer , that’s cool man. Now when are you going to make that EU account??

In my experience there are a lot more emotions in motorcycle racing than in car racing. I am not a racer but have lots of friends that are and have seen a fair amount of fist fights after races.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Race C is kinda my jam. Went up 15 spots to finish in 3rd.

I went up 7 spots in my first, then lost as many in my second.

 

[05XR8]

Did a qualy for Race B. Booyyyyy, that 911 that came 6th. I had words in my head for it. I truly hate blocking. When cars have a run on a player, don't jump in front of it. Let it play out.

Edit: Two cars ahead, spun on their own. Just managed the gaps in front and behind. Not a bad car.

 

[bdubclub]

In my experience there are a lot more emotions in motorcycle racing than in car racing. I am not a racer but have lots of friends that are and have seen a fair amount of fist fights after races.

Takes a lot more energy to ride a motorcycle around a track fast than it does a car. Plus the added danger of not having a cage around you may have something to do with it. That and all of us motorcycle guys are not wired the same as everyone else. I have never been around the 4 wheel scene though, but I’m sure there have been a few fat lips and black eyes in that discipline also.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Takes a lot more energy to ride a motorcycle around a track fast than it does a car. Plus the added danger of not having a cage around you may have something to do with it. That and all of us motorcycle guys are not wired the same as everyone else. I have never been around the 4 wheel scene though, but I’m sure there have been a few fat lips and black eyes in that discipline also.

Certainly, especially in the more tight classes, but many of those where I live are schooled in Folkrace, a discipline in dirt and with frequently contact.
I think it's the sitting outside and the general attitude of us motorcyclist that are the big difference. The adrenaline is pumped every race, I am not sure if that's the case in all car racing.

 

[cowboyjon]

I've had a few altercations at bike trackdays myself, can only imagine what actual bike racing would be like.

 

[QC YALUM]

Certainly, especially in the more tight classes, but many of those where I live are schooled in Folkrace, a discipline in dirt and with frequently contact.
I think it's the sitting outside and the general attitude of us motorcyclist that are the big difference. The adrenaline is pumped every race, I am not sure if that's the case in all car racing.

in Amateur racing it frequently append when damages repairs come from your pockets

 

[Leftcurl]

had a few Race C's last night with mixed results - but still no real clue as to the best combo. Went with the Shaguar (after watching Kie's video) on a no stopper, short shifting.. boring as hell, but managed to finish just! Think i started 6th and finished around the same... i can't even remember. The only highlights were chuckling as i passed a couple of people who ran out of fuel before the finish.
Next up was Cayman.. no stopper... FM2 for most of the race - stayed on the track and out of trouble - results are all a blur but top 8 finish is my guess!
Then tried the Megane because it was my fastest qualy car... my god, my tyres were shot after 6 laps and i thought it might be a bit easier on fuel, but no chance - FM2 & 3 all the way round. Can't remember results - but nothing disastrous and a small DR gain.
Finally landed myself in a lobby with @GOTMAXPOWER - and i thought.. here we go, this will test me against the big boys.... NETWORK DISCONNECT!! It was 1.30am by that time and i called it a night.
Overall gain of about 1000DR on the night and i think a little better preparation and decide on a car and strategy will give me a good chance of getting to DR.A this week

 

[RacingGrandpa]

in Amateur racing it frequently append when damages repairs come from your pockets

This is Swedish Folkrace. Every car is for sale after the race at a fixed price

 

[JoeyLeonine]

This is Swedish Folkrace. Every car is for sale after the race at a fixed price

No ghosting there. I wanna play.

Also what are rules on rolling the car? Is it mandatory??!!

Half those guys looked like they couldve carried on as well. "Just put it back the right way up. We can still win this!"

 

[RacingGrandpa]

No ghosting there. I wanna play.

Also what are rules on rolling the car? Is it mandatory??!!

Half those guys looked like they couldve carried on as well. "Just put it back the right way up. We can still win this!"

More than half of the drivers are between 12 and 18, this is something families do together.
Rolling is not mandatory, but happens a lot

Edit: my answer looks devoid of humour. I did get the joke and I am sure some get pissed when rolled but mostly just spurred.

 

[Kuraudo]

@JoeyLeonine: 47.558 with a big slide through the S corners - probably lost .1 or .2 there . NSX, BB -2. Please don't be faster, no way I can repeat this time again XD .

 

[DelboyD]

This is Swedish Folkrace. Every car is for sale after the race at a fixed price

They start them close together to encourage a first corner pile up!


I like this. I bet its great fun!


It’s clear the expectation is that your gonna get bumped around a lot.


The expectation for GTS is no contact as that is what it says in the racing etiquette videos (if memory serves me correct).

 

[Redneckchef]

Welcome to hell, I present the results of my only 2 races today. Didn't know how to report an absolute psycho tonight so going to have to see what I can do. I at least have the video. Spent a race trying to learn Manual (after some practice) and we can say it didn't go well.
first picture is after race 1 second is after race 2. Sorry for the picture spam, couldn't figure out screen shot to save only a small bit. I seriously have no words for the crap that went on in those races. Have a video I'm uploading but will take a while.
Ok, never mind, editing to remove faulty screenshots. Went from SR 82 to 51 in 1 race. Haven't been that low since first 20 or so races while I figured out penalty system. Next race had a few incidents, but had many clean laps in between, still dropped SR to 47. I'm fuming. Deliberate punts, multiple times a lap, penalty system manipulation to destroy me. I don't know what the hell now.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Welcome to hell, I present the results of my only 2 races today. Didn't know how to report an absolute psycho tonight so going to have to see what I can do. I at least have the video. Spent a race trying to learn Manual (after some practice) and we can say it didn't go well.
first picture is after race 1 second is after race 2. Sorry for the picture spam, couldn't figure out screen shot to save only a small bit. I seriously have no words for the crap that went on in those races. Have a

If you want to report a player you click on his name in the result list after the race, a small menu pops up that allows you to make certain choices, follow, report, view profile etc etc

 

[Redneckchef]

If you want to report a player you click on his name in the result list after the race, a small menu pops up that allows you to make certain choices, follow, report, view profile etc etc

Yeah, I was so fried after that I couldn't think about it and didn't figure it out until after next race. Too late then. Learn for next time. Normally don't have to race these people but this was absurd.

 

[Trone_Colby]

BTW, Race B is very strange. Qualifying is like an ice rink. During the race? Much better grip. Usually I find it to be the opposite. Grip during QT and then slippery during the race.

I thought it was just me. I was just doing qualifying with the Supra. I kept spinning out where I usually don’t. I’m sure I’m not rusty and that’s one of my better combos.

 

[Dready1984]

Got tired of being bumped into the wall at the chicane on DT. So did some qualy laps last night instead. First lap takes me from a 46.7 to a 45.9, 30 laps later I'm still at 45.9 but with an optimal time of 45.4. Just need to string it all together.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

In the only good race C I had yesterday one player right in front of me hit the last corner of the busstop and didn't ghost. I straddled the curb and miraculously went between the Armco and his spinning car without touching any. That was a boost in mood.

 

[splitwindow]

Has anybody tried the Viper in race C?
Obviously got to stop for tires but the fuel economy is insane!

 

[El_Beardo]

Has anybody tried the Viper in race C?
Obviously got to stop for tires but the fuel economy is insane!

It's not THAT bad on tyres. Is it? At least, I don't remember it being terrible. It's been a while, though. So I may very well be wrong.

 

[Kwame]

Sorry I though your point was that the real life cars (with maths and examples given) would get better fuel consumption than those in the game, which is why I pointed out the fuel multiplier.

If your point is that your not a fan of the multipliers and the race should just be 10 laps with 1x fuel and tyre wear, then that's a little different and I have a few thoughts on that.

There are some people (myself included) that like the various pit strategies that come into play in longer races. If no multipliers were used then the race would have to be 70 odd laps, which I doubt would be too popular. PD's answer to this is the multipliers.

The problem we have in my eyes is that the races aren't quite long enough to ever really justify a pit stop. The time lost pitting is far greater than the time lost driving conservatively to make tyres and fuel last the distance. There was a time when the balance in this was better, and certainly FIA races used to be longer and pit stops were much more common than they are now.

I hope PD can address this as I get that many are not a fan of driving conservatively for what feels like a relatively short race. Either adding a few more laps, or speeding up the actual pit stop could rectify this.

I would like to see them enforce a mandatory stop. Not by insisting on a pit stop but by insisting that at least two tires compounds are used in the race for at least one timed lap (this means out-lap then timed lap. Cant pit on first or last lap). In addition, allow the driver to select fuel at start - either litres or laps. Tire wear and fuel multiplier no more than X3, enough laps for 18 to 20 minute races in race C and 28 to 30 minutes for FIA.

 

[El_Beardo]

I would like to see them enforce a mandatory stop. Not by insisting on a pit stop but by insisting that at least two tires compounds are used in the race for at least one timed lap (this means out-lap then timed lap. Cant pit on first or last lap). In addition, allow the driver to select fuel at start - either litres or laps. Tire wear and fuel multiplier no more than X3, enough laps for 18 to 20 minute races in race C and 28 to 30 minutes for FIA.

I'd only make one change here.

I'd like enough laps for approx 25 mins in Daily C, and enough for approx 35 mins for FIA.

 

[splitwindow]

It's not THAT bad on tyres. Is it? At least, I don't remember it being terrible. It's been a while, though. So I may very well be wrong.

It's not terrible on tires but like all the FR cars, with fresh rubber and a fuel splash you can keep on smashing it (and the bus stop in particular) right till the end.

 

[Leftcurl]

Got tired of being bumped into the wall at the chicane on DT. So did some qualy laps last night instead. First lap takes me from a 46.7 to a 45.9, 30 laps later I'm still at 45.9 but with an optimal time of 45.4. Just need to string it all together.

ahhh... i thought i recognised the name... i was in your race last night at DT. Think you were on pole or at least leading for the first few laps... then last lap i saw you smashed up in the chicane of death