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Just jumped on Suzuka for what is likely to be my last four races on this combo (unless I get on in the morning), attempting to nab A+ rating.

First race went lovely, won from pole.

Second race, started 2nd, had a better start than pole but not enough to be alongside into T1 so I blend out of the throttle, get into file, guy behind me got in line, I start focusing on T2 then BANG! What had happened was everyone had got in line then the Swiss guy in 5th had smacked into 4th, who went into 3rd, who went into me, I went wide, off bumped again as I'm trying to recover, SR down, 19th when I get going again. Recovered back up to 10th after being driven off the track deliberately twice but all in all a bad race! (I might share L1 later!)

Third race. Similar line up on the grid, did exactly the same, started 2nd, fell into line, but we all got round this time. Leader got himself a penalty for cutting 130R, I inherited the lead and had enough of a gap over 2nd to be out of the slipstream... so I spun in Spoon on L4! Down to about 7th, started the recovery drive, finished 4th and would have had a podium if it wasn't for the same Swiss guy who caused the accident in Race 2 weaving everywhere. He got plenty of stick after the race, and not just from me. Blamed it on using a pad. Funny how on two occasions he defended the inside against me (towards 130R and into chicane) his pad obviously caused him to steer the opposite direction to the corner and run me off the track :rolleyes:. Plus his pad also forced him to drive strange lines to block others or push them onto the grass... DS4s eh??!

Final race, similar lineup again, stronger though and started 3rd. The guy who started 2nd got himself an early penalty and dropped out of it. I was never more than 1s behind the leader and never had more than 1.5s on 3rd. I'd got close a couple of times but never really got the run on him other than half a look towards 130R. Then I got really close with a near perfect sector 1 on L6, only to stick a wheel on the dirt through Dunlop and lose the 0.6s I'd gained, 3rd also got the gap to me down to 1s. Began to catch back up by the start of the last lap and on the first right hander of the Esses he runs wide, I get a run and while I couldn't go up the inside to the left I could get alongside through the final right. He could get the power down first for Dunlop though and held the lead, 3rd now closed up and to be fair all three of us kept it very clean with mistake-free racing to the end. We finished as we'd been pretty much all race, but just 1.1s covered the top three with a race time for the winner of 17:55.1

So Punttoni and Sloth, thanks, good race that one!!

Anyway, this all leaves the quest for A+ looking like this...
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Is it worth a drunk race?!!:cheers:
 
O604
Water licencing. They purchased rain in Japan, where they drop Pocari Sweat from the sky. But rain in Europe is Redbull and rain in the Americas is Monster. Which is why Willow and Interlagos don't have rain yet. :sly:

^ The dumbest reason I could make up.
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Rain at Willow. 💡 That's a really good idea. Particularly, if it turned the dirt into mud. :lol:
 
Pigems
Apparently so. :D




At least that means we can still talk about Golf. ;)




I think you meant Habs territory. ;)
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Habs... been 26 years now..

watto79
Doesn't look like anyone's posted next weeks races (sorry if I missed it):

Race A: Sardegna C - 6 Laps - N300 Provided Car
Race B: Mount Panorama - 3 laps - Gr.4
Race C: Tokyo East Outer Loop - 8 laps - Gr.3 ...... Tyres Heavy Wet/Intermediate

Looking forward to some race C fun (on my second account :lol:).
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Race A could be interesting. Especially, as @sturk0167 points out, no BoP. So the car can actually run at full power.

Race B, been a while since we had Bathurst. (Or at least it feels like it)

Race C - Once again showing that PD has a very dark sense of humor.
 
golfer07840
Habs... been 26 years now..



Race A could be interesting. Especially, as @sturk0167 points out, no BoP. So the car can actually run at full power.

Race B, been a while since we had Bathurst. (Or at least it feels like it)

Race C - Once again showing that PD has a very dark sense of humor.
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The Habs are just giving everyone else a chance to catch up is all. ;)
 
Gogga
I'm also between a C and D. My SR has dropped drastically because of the unfair penalties imposed by the game. I suppose I'm going to let it be and have fun in the race instead of just rage quitting sometimes.. I did this in the past and I'm aware that it has a huge impact on your ratings.
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Just to (possibly) correct a misunderstanding here: penalties do not themselves lower your SR, contact with other drivers causes both lowered SR and penalties. Yes the penalties can be unfairly distributed at times, but they aren't the cause of your SR going down.
 
I think I realized something ironic. Maybe the BoP system is relatively fine, aside from the N-series, but if more events permitted tuning, or at least some levels of tuning, we could get a wider diversity of cars in races, whereas I had thought for some time that disabling tuning would be better. I'm pretty sure BoP is trying to make the cars in each class viable, but while keeping as much of their driving characteristic as possible. But if tuning was enabled more often, we could tune a car to compensate for BoP, and especially change settings depending on the course. This is in contrast to power/weight, where there's seemingly no disadvantage for lower weight/higher power; the other settings, in contrast, have a more case-by-case basis for how useful they are. Each of the other settings can be useful when moved towards either direction, depending on the car being used, and the track it's on.

Alternatively, there could be events where BoP is off and tuning is enabled, but there would be limitations on maximum power/minimum weight. Because players will likely set their cars power/weight to the exact limits (or at least as close as possible), this would indirectly make the power/weight of the cars uniform. This could also apply to events involving N-series cars.

But I do wonder how player-tuned cars in the next installment will come into play. Ideally, I'd like there to be a way to race with road cars that have stock settings, without even the changes to power/weight offered through BoP being enabled. It's just that I'm not sure that stock cars will be viable at all when players will be able to install aero kits and rear wings, and/or be eligible to use cars that have downforce as-stock like the S-FR Racing Concept. Perhaps there could be events that only permit a specific selection of cars, and in some cases, they may be stock, without any changes to power/weight or other settings, with tuning disabled. (I think disabling both tuning and BoP results in this, when it comes to GTS.)

I'm just unsure how using road cars as-stock would work. Or maybe it wouldn't, I suppose. But I'd also argue that modifying cars is a major part of GT, as that SEMA-winning Honda Civic demonstrates. So I suppose that since some cars come with downforce, the N-Series (or its successor) would be more of a tuner series of classes. This would also make sense to allow "inter-class" cars, as all cars would be capable of having downforce, either as-stock, or with additional parts. But there should be a way to have events where the cars are being driven as-stock, without any changes through BoP nor enabled tuning, nor additional parts like rear wings. I suppose that's also hard to do since it could lead to eligible cars in some events having an inherent advantage over the others, so maybe this could be reserved for one-make races/time trials, like the Porsche 911 930 time trial at the Nordschleife, though I'm not sure if BoP was disabled for that event or not.
 
Sven Jurgens
I had to check if you all were serious, Bathurst and Tokyo in the rain, I'm in! 8 laps, that's at least a decent race, I think I'll gravitate to Tokyo. Bathurst is my second favorite after the Nord, but 3 laps in GR.4, that's really making it a pretty pointless parade.

4x tire wear, that's really little unless these heavy wet tires shred like crazy. So no stop again, better put TCS on though. This is going to be fun!
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Don't forget the road will be dry at the S/F line, so that can potentially screw up our tires over time.
MR cars are OP in the rain. The only FR car that I know of that is actually decent in the rain is the Viper.
 
Mistah_MCA
Don't forget the road will be dry at the S/F line, so that can potentially screw up our tires over time.
MR cars are OP in the rain. The only FR car that I know of that is actually decent in the rain is the Viper.
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I believe the Merc is also good in the wet, but yes MR cars are a safe bet. The Citroen in particular was very quick in the FIA Red Bull race.
 
Can someone here explain to me what’s really happening when we get “disconnected from network”?

I checked my internet connection and I had 65 Mbps upload and 68Mbps upload..

Thanks
 
Odiesback
Can someone here explain to me what’s really happening when we get “disconnected from network”?

I checked my internet connection and I had 65 Mbps upload and 68Mbps upload..

Thanks
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Are you hard wired or WiFi?
 
I used the FT-1 in the GT League Tokyo wet race. Don't recommend it. I had a lot of problems going slower.

If you slide blame this guy. :sly:

 
golfer07840
If you're that close to the router, get a cable and hardwire.
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Relatively close, about 6-7 ft but opposites sides of the room... these things are very rare but I got disconnected 3 times in 2 days costing me 6k points!

GTS should know the difference between being disconnected and abandoning the race... thanks
 
Odiesback
Relatively close, about 6-7 ft but opposites sides of the room... these things are very rare but I got disconnected 3 times in 2 days costing me 6k points!

GTS should know the difference between being disconnected and abandoning the race... thanks
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@golfer07840 is right, you definitely want to be hard wired, cables are super cheap these days too. I haven’t been disconnected from a race since making the switch a while back. :)
 
sturk0167
We used the '81 Porsche at Tokyo South a couple of weeks ago. Quite a difficult car to drive. I gave up on it.
The newest N300 is the Super Bee. I hope that will be the one for race A.

As for race C being our first ever daily race in the rain, I can't wait. 👍
I'll definitely want to start at the back of that one. :scared:
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Oh yeah, you're right. I did the Tokyo South race once and wanted to quickly erase it from my memory. I guess that's how I forgot. :lol:

Super Bee would be nice. It's been a while since I last saw a muscle car in the dailies.
 
Had been unable to beat my 1:32.5 on the Aston at Brands for a couple of days now, so thought I'd try the 4C to see what the fuss was about, but couldn't get the hang of it, was too twitchy, and then too understeery, but then I turned the TC off, and it all came together, after spinning on the first lap, dropped to a 1:31.7 on the second! Sadly couldn't match that again, got close a couple of times, but kept binning it. Went away for a while, and then went for the Ferrari, TC off straight away, and after a few laps dropped to a 31.3, and after a few more, made it to a 30.9! An unusual approach for me, actually trying different cars and practicing, but looks like it works!
 
golfer07840
Habs... been 26 years now..



Race A could be interesting. Especially, as @sturk0167 points out, no BoP. So the car can actually run at full power.

Race B, been a while since we had Bathurst. (Or at least it feels like it)

Race C - Once again showing that PD has a very dark sense of humor.
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Oh, I hope it's dark too! Rain at night even better.


Odiesback
Relatively close, about 6-7 ft but opposites sides of the room... these things are very rare but I got disconnected 3 times in 2 days costing me 6k points!

GTS should know the difference between being disconnected and abandoning the race... thanks
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Hard wiring is no guarantee. Anything can mess up temporarily.

The server can't know the difference between accidental disconnects and forcing a disconnect to preserve your ratings. You can suspend gts, turn off you ps4, your router, how would the server know you didn't do any of that? Your ps4 could tell the server nothing like that happened if it was a simple hickup causing the disconnect. Yet you could still use a lag switch to temporarily disrupt your connection.

You wager your points by entering. In real racing you don't get your money back either if your car brakes down :/ Living closer to the server will help. less hops, less chance anything goes wrong.


Mistah_MCA
Don't forget the road will be dry at the S/F line, so that can potentially screw up our tires over time.
MR cars are OP in the rain. The only FR car that I know of that is actually decent in the rain is the Viper.
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Perhaps I'll go for the full set, CRB in the rain for all. Depending on how bad the bumper tapping is of course. Perhaps I won't put that pressure on myself, but interesting to drive every car at least twice and record my fastest laps in the rain with each of them. 70 races, very do-able :)
 
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EinsTheOne
I'd really like to know the reasoning behind PDs decisions... Like how come we get wet Tokyo but not wet Red Bull on daily races?
Like why? I don't get it, I just don't...
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There are too many people in DR/B, A and A+ and not enough in DR/C/D for a full grid, so it's necessary to generate DR resets 👍.

O604
Which is why Willow and Interlagos don't have rain yet. :sly:
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You see I've been through the dessert on a horse with no name, it felt good to be out of the rain..........
 
@Dairyworker @O604 @Granadier

Do you guys also have the intermittent issue with the break pedals on your G29 not going all the way 100% when you fully depress the breaks. Sometimes my fully depressed break pedal only registers 50% on the HUD indicator. When this happens I quit to the menu and calibrate the pedals by pressing them to the maximum. This solves the issue. I've removed the rubber stopper, ran it for a few months without it but replaced it as there is too much dead zone at the end of the pedal. It really sucks that we do not have the option to calibrate the wheel and pedals in Gt Sport. I do not have this issue in AC, Dirt Rally, Project cars 1 and 2.

@Outspacer has a solution to the break pedal issue. It involves adding resistors to the break pedal wiring.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ch-g-wheel-owner.279149/page-15#post-11771763
 
sturk0167
Same guy. Three times.

Here's 1.



Here's 2.



And the 3rd. Yup. That'll do it. Thanks for playing. Goodbye.


The penalty system is so bad that even though I pounded him into the wall hard, and completely on purpose, I got no penalty and a blue S at the end. :lol:
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Example 1 is 100% on you. You made an absolute mess of T1 and let him through.
 
250Cal
Example 1 is 100% on you. You made an absolute mess of T1 and let him through.
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Nonsense. That is exactly how the leader should start. In fact, that is how you HAVE to start from pole to avoid getting touched. And 2nd place has the responsibility to keep it tucked inside to leave the outside open. Then it's side by side 'til the hairpin. This guarantees at least one of the two cars will make it through the hairpin safely and on to a probable victory. 3rd starter has to go even wider to avoid the bunching up behind 2nd, and 4th gets the brunt of the pushing.

Tactics... we has 'em.
 
BenRod
Nonsense. That is exactly how the leader should start. In fact, that is how you HAVE to start from pole to avoid getting touched. And 2nd place has the responsibility to keep it tucked inside to leave the outside open. Then it's side by side 'til the hairpin. This guarantees at least one of the two cars will make it through the hairpin safely and on to a probable victory. 3rd starter has to go even wider to avoid the bunching up behind 2nd, and 4th gets the brunt of the pushing.

Tactics... we has 'em.
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He go way to wide leaving the apex to the other guy but on the exit the other guy is supposed to leave space and he didn't . Maybe because of understeer ? But seeing the other video seems like he just have no racecraft at all
 
@Gogga i can't say I've had that problem myself. Although in the mid summer i was having an intermittent issues with the brake "sticking" it would only e enough to just barely activate the brakes but was super annoying when your on a best lap or someone is right behind you and the brakes go on by them selves or simply dont let off 100%. I honestly think it was the humidity or something messing with it cuse it has been fine since the crazy summer heat passed. Keeping my eye on it though....

@sturk0167 i do not understand some people... i have raced that guy many times and in the past he was clean, with me at least, but all week i have seen him doing that kinda stuff. First one, yes the pass is your fault perhaps, but he knew what he was doing when he forced you onto the grass, perhaps not dirty but absolutely a jerk move....
 
BenRod
Nonsense. That is exactly how the leader should start. In fact, that is how you HAVE to start from pole to avoid getting touched. And 2nd place has the responsibility to keep it tucked inside to leave the outside open. Then it's side by side 'til the hairpin. This guarantees at least one of the two cars will make it through the hairpin safely and on to a probable victory. 3rd starter has to go even wider to avoid the bunching up behind 2nd, and 4th gets the brunt of the pushing.

Tactics... we has 'em.
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Yeah, no. OP is on the wrong line, slows the car too much, accelerates mid corner and continues to understeer wide. I don't know what level this is at but the vast majority of players in this game are going to drive through that gap.
 
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