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One race around lemans so far this morning. Saw @Sven Jurgens starting at the back. I was 11? I can't remember now lol. Which goes to the point i was gonna make. Racing gr1 when i am still half asleep is a bad idea. Nothing drastic, but sloppy enough to get a track limit penalty every lap and completely blow my braking on the corner sven passed me on. Was hoping to run with you for a bit sir, but no lol

Going back in for more....
 
Really struggling to get in to Le Mans this week. The cars are so tricky to drive well on the DS4 it just gets a bit frustrating. Consistent 3:24-3:25 in practice drops to 3:28 in race. Car feels different etc. Gaining DR/SR but not enjoying it. Would get more from GT3s I think.

Weird experience just now racing with a poor connection (Not sure why, it's normally fine) against someone else with a poor connection. Cars jumping about a bit, lots of nudges from him behind me, unsettling the car, but radar shows a gap etc. Guess it's glitching. I failed to register that properly. Accelerated out of a slow corner and radar shows him inside line but behind, I move over and he's actually still there, contact and I end up spinning. On the replay it shows an overlap that wasn't evident live in-game.
 
Red Bull Ring is an awful awful layout and a sprint race there is a nightmare.
The only worse possibility would be a gr4 sprint race. I wish PD would delete it and replace it with any other real world track.
It has no soul no good turns it’s a horrible horrible place.

See i love the place, always have. It rewards a strong exit and has legit places to pass if you're racing and not playing dodgems.
 
I beat my R92CP best lap going full out in the 962C, however slower total time due to a 2 sec slower first lap. Starting position varies a lot as well as traffic of course. But it's promising, just need to be a bit more careful with fuel. @Dairyworker I saw you had 11% left at the pit stop, I was down to 5%. Fun to race with you, see you next time!
 
I did stop for fuel, having less than a lap left at the end of lap 3. No stopping the Mazda, Mercedes and Jag is too slow. I'm currently doing the splash and dash in the R92CP, I don't think it's faster than no stopping that one but it's close. Pit stop only adds 7 seconds.

Ya, I tried to fuel save with all the older cars and it didn't work so well. Except for the 962. I ran that in map 2 for the full race. No short shifting. The other cars need a mix of map 2 and 3 as well as the odd short shift.

I might give the Jag another shot. In the one time I used it. I got punted off track and lost time. It was much like the 962 in that you can use map 2 a lot. I did the first lap in map 3 (edit, sorry, I put map 2 by accident), then went to map 2 for the rest of the race. I don't think (although I cannot confirm) that short shifting isn't good enough because it burns so much fuel down the Mulsanne.
 
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I did 3 races in the Jag, last one was sort of ok, I made it to the finish!
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CRB is out of the question with all the bumping from behind.

This is the Jaguar experience on Sarthe summed up in 35 seconds (from the race before)

Nor recommended, avoid.

Classic man. That was good. Hoping to get on in about an hour, want to give a couple of these other old slugs a try.
 
Red Bull Ring makes no sense to me.

I really enjoy the turns, the key is getting the track limits controlled correctly or it can be a farce, but properly policed it suits my "big brakes, unsettle the car a touch, point it the right way and hit the gas hard" approach that suits the DS4. With the DS4, sweeping turns are hard to manage as rotation is reduced to make it drive-able.
 
Red Bull Ring is an awful awful layout and a sprint race there is a nightmare.
The only worse possibility would be a gr4 sprint race. I wish PD would delete it and replace it with any other real world track.
It has no soul no good turns it’s a horrible horrible place.
I will never drive it again. I’d rather race online at Tsukuba in gr1.
I do have to say though I am enjoying the alt quite a bit at Lemans. No idea why anyone runs the newer cars. Old ones are much more fun. Tried Pug on main for a lap. Nah. I have ts050 on main but it’s meh. I seem faster in the Porsche. Once I learn track better going with Nissan.
B B is nice because it’s honest. Honest dirty racing. It’s fun.
I didn't race, this morning. I just did some Q laps on the main account. I did a few laps with the Porsche, Nissan and Mercedes.
Best time was with the Sauber.
Where it seemed to be better, was putting the power down and accelerating after slow corners. It seemed to do a lot better in that regard.
 
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I really enjoy the turns, the key is getting the track limits controlled correctly or it can be a farce, but properly policed it suits my "big brakes, unsettle the car a touch, point it the right way and hit the gas hard" approach that suits the DS4. With the DS4, sweeping turns are hard to manage as rotation is reduced to make it drive-able.
I like any track that is a real world track. I cannot stand made up tracks that makes no sense to me
 
I really enjoy the turns, the key is getting the track limits controlled correctly or it can be a farce, but properly policed it suits my "big brakes, unsettle the car a touch, point it the right way and hit the gas hard" approach that suits the DS4. With the DS4, sweeping turns are hard to manage as rotation is reduced to make it drive-able.

First time me and a friend played it my friend on ds4 destroyed me.
It was same on that first Gardens chicane.
He’s telling me on chat just floor it haha right.
That track will never suit me.
I think I’m just irritable from work but also I’ve pretty much realized I am peaked out on main. I’ll see how Interlagos event goes. If it’s like the racing at Nurb GP then I am done on that acct.
I don’t like having to barge to avoid getting barged in packs of bloodthirsty all or nothing drivers.
The result is I get pissed off and punt them anymore. I just can’t take it.
Interlagos will be the measure. If it’s bad, then main never sees the light of day again.
 
First time me and a friend played it my friend on ds4 destroyed me.
It was same on that first Gardens chicane.
He’s telling me on chat just floor it haha right.
That track will never suit me.
I think I’m just irritable from work but also I’ve pretty much realized I am peaked out on main. I’ll see how Interlagos event goes. If it’s like the racing at Nurb GP then I am done on that acct.
I don’t like having to barge to avoid getting barged in packs of bloodthirsty all or nothing drivers.
The result is I get pissed off and punt them anymore. I just can’t take it.
Interlagos will be the measure. If it’s bad, then main never sees the light of day again.

I accidentally used my Main account for an FIA race last week, didn’t realize until the room had loaded, all Aliens! It was everything I could do not to finish DFL. :lol:
 
using race c to repair my sr..man i have been missing out. splash and dash in a group c car is so fun. blowing the doors off of hybrids never gets old. any hybrid i ever tried handled weird. just did a splash and dash in the C9 then the 787B. r92cp and 962 next. might have yo buy the jag too lol. i need to set a time though. ive lost a little dr each race starting from the back.
 
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Man my driving has improved massively in the last 2 weeks. when i was testing abs settings i started focusing alot on my braking and throttle inputs. now i can pretty much drive any gr 3 car and not spin because i know how to be smooth. my DR is the highest it has been since i got a wheel. just under 23k. it feels like with the way i have been driving i could make a run for DR A. i have also been following cars closely and adjusting my braking to stay close without tapping. i have been able to adjust my lines better for overtakes and switch backs. been able to do low-mid 1:31s in pretty much every car i have tried for race b. its like something clicked and i get how to race now? :boggled::odd:

it is a good feeling knowing that you're improving. I remember trying to push my breaking points further and further thinking it would give me an advantage when it came to race time - then you watch the aliens at work and realise that sometimes less is more... dial the breaking points back and be quicker out of that corner instead... the penny drops!
 
Seriously?!! How close can I get to A+ without hitting the bloody thing?! That's my new goal

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One more race - hopefully tootle around and finish 5th!

And that race, started 5th in a properly top draw field, did absolutely everything I could to avoid a crash (let two past at one corner!), was nowhere near my ultimate pace, managed to just hang on to 8th but...

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I could now give GT a break and play some of the other games I seem to have wasted money on!

Naaaaaaah!!:gtpflag:

(Now I can go and race in those 'elite' lobbies... until they realise I'm a bit slower and boot me!!)
 
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Had a fun morning racing the 962. Saw @Sven Jurgens in every race. He was doing pretty good coming up from the back. I am slowly improving at this race car driving thing lol. Was a bit better result for me each race, and faster lap times also. Still making lots of little mistakes but i am officially hooked. A couple clips i want to share but must do it later, not enough time for that now. This couldn't wait though. I knew when we were side by side this pic needed to be taken.... great morning, and great to share the track with you sir, for briefe moments lol

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I understand that it may not be directed at me, but I'll give more of my opinion since it refers to a point I brought up. I understand the lack of a rear view mirror & how the mirror would be helpful. However, for as long as I've been playing racing games, some of them had no camera view other than chase cam. So, I have over 2 decades of driving from the chase cam POV. Those of us who are "experienced" enough remember playing Pole Position. Yeah, no adjustable view there. Anyway, I have become also acclimated to using the quick toggle to view behind me. But, the question you have to ask is, where do I look? If I want to cut a good line, do I watch the track or the rear view mirror for a disgruntled driver? You still have to cut the proper racing line. If the GT-R driver was such a better driver than I, he/she could have gotten around me with proper racing technique. If you watch the replay which got this whole conversation started, I had to check up in the corner prior to the contact which got me a penalty. Now, the Nissan driver already knew he/she made a mistake. They also knew that they made a mistake at the left on top of the hill. In a competitive field, your mistakes let other cars get closer. Contact was made, but in no way was it intentional. After 2 blunders, don't you think that maybe you should slow down a few feet sooner? And what shows the bad sportsmanship is his/her willingness to dive bomb someone, planning to use them as an additional set of brakes & tires.

This has taken a while to write & I went & looked at the replay. He is using a DS4 controller. He missed his braking point & was still on the full brakes when I was at my accelerator pickup point. He made his braking point into turn 1, but chose to duck inside. He likely caught a tiny sliver of my draft as he pulled up behind me. But, considering that he was braking when I was accelerating, it sure seems like he wanted some revenge. Also, he started 2nd & while trying to pass a 911 for the lead, the 911 swerved over into him. I'd get a bit pissy over that. On lap 2, the Porsche tried a late braking maneuver going into the uphill right just where I caught up to him. The GT-R went into the gravel & 3rd place. After he has contact with me, on lap 6, he is chasing another Corvette that got 2nd when he was in the gravel. He bumps the Corvette on the downhill run leading to the same uphill right hander. He puts a move to the inside in the braking zone. He's halfway along side the 'Vette & the Corvette turns in on him. Corvette pushes wide into the gravel, no penalty. The biggest difference to me is, the Corvette he had contact with on lap 6, he was 50% beside the Corvette. He had the position & the corner. When he had contact with me, he was 100% behind me. He did not have the position, he was not entitled to the corner

I get that your “acclimated”, but acclimated doesn’t equal optimal. I can be acclimated to driving a car with messed up steering (actually had that in real life at Spa, air in line) but that shouldn’t stop us from trying to improve. We should always be looking for ways to get faster. And a rear view mirror will help you improve.

I don’t divert my attention from what’s going on in front, be it my racing line or whatever. What I’m doing is using my peripheral to keep me aware of roughly what’s going on behind me so I can anticipate.

My comment regarding your “incident” was actually in regards to the dive bomber at the end of your video, not the first part where you rear ended the guy who messed up the turn. So I’ll discuss both, but the mirrors only play into the 2nd incident.

The first incident he made a mistake.....no question. But so did you by not adapting to his being slower on corner exit. Racing incident, but you should have adjusted and gone to the left. You would have had a huge speed advantage but you lost it by making contact.

The 2nd incident with the dive bomber is what my original comment was about. And was not in defense of him, he is 100% at fault. But that doesn’t take away from the value of a rear mirror. If anything it proves how valuable a mirror is.

With chase cam and no rear mirror, you had zero idea of what he was planning until it was too late. But as we can see in the replay, having a mirror makes it extremely obvious what his plan was. You can see he’s going for the pass before you even start turning in. Being able to anticipate these boneheads dive bomber antics etc will save you from ending up in the dirt and ruining a race. With a mirror you could have changed your line or straightened out to let him screw himself because there was no way he was making the turn without using you as extra braking.

I’ve used my mirrors in precisely these moments and I adapt to avoid a worse situation. Sometimes it means letting them get past if they keep it on track, but usually they run wide into the dirt or have completely compromised their exit and I just blow past them. You gotta our smart them.

Perks of being a bachelor: I can turn the sound up.

Grab some really good IEM’s and be fully immersed in sound :)
 
What is the best Car to finish race C in fastest time?
I have absolutely no clue.
Today is the first day I have touched a Gr.1 Car, these things are seriously fast.
I did a lot of practice sessions today in the R18. Still way off pace with my 3‘20,088
I like that Car quite a lot, but is it good in race pace? I don’t like qualifying a lot, I want to race :D
So, any tips here for me?
I guess Toyota, right?!
 
What is the best Car to finish race C in fastest time?
I have absolutely no clue.
Today is the first day I have touched a Gr.1 Car, these things are seriously fast.
I did a lot of practice sessions today in the R18. Still way off pace with my 3‘20,088
I like that Car quite a lot, but is it good in race pace? I don’t like qualifying a lot, I want to race :D
So, any tips here for me?
I guess Toyota, right?!

Toyota, TS050, yes. It keeps the hybrid energy easily and has fuel to spare. I think with the R18 you get some hybrid management issues.
 
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If you're doing 3:20 laps, you don't need any help.
Start racing. You're already way faster than most.

That’s like saying yeah I shot a -4 from the black tees at golf but I was using a Titleist not sure if it’s the best ball.
Men :lol:
Maybe I didn’t express it correct, I meant I‘m 2,3seconds behind Number1 so I’m not sure if I’m gonna survive in A+ rooms.
I know 3‘20 is a decent time but is it good enough in A+ rooms
:lol:, sorry of it sounded weird, my English is a bit rusty, cheap excuse I know :D
 
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Maybe I didn’t express it correct, I meant I‘m 2,3seconds behind Number1 so I’m not sure if I’m gonna survive in A+ rooms.
I know 3‘20 is a decent time but is it good enough in A+ rooms
:lol:, sorry of it sounded weird, my English is a bit rusty, cheap excuse I know :D
Yes, if you qualify with that and can lap close to it you will be fine. I got DFL in a A+ and S lobby last night, but still finished before time out. They were lapping 22 or 23s in the race. Give it a go as track limit penalties and slipstream will keep everyone together.
 
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Maybe I didn’t express it correct, I meant I‘m 2,3seconds behind Number1 so I’m not sure if I’m gonna survive in A+ rooms.
I know 3‘20 is a decent time but is it good enough in A+ rooms
:lol:, sorry of it sounded weird, my English is a bit rusty, cheap excuse I know :D
I've never raced on the European server, but on the American server, the top 10 guys hardly ever show up at the daily races. Most of the time in the top Sport mode lobbies, there's maybe 2 of top 50 guys in a race.
 
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