"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[elston87]

Well as much as I like Race C this week my last two races were quite terrible. Contact battles all over the place which have me slowing down to make space for the combatants and not get caught up in their tussle, only to be pushed aside off the course by other players coming from behind and not reading the situation ahead, with a few penalties handed to me as the cherry on top. It's a mixed bag. Yesterday's races were very enjoyable but today, at the same time frame, it was chaotic.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

@RacingGrandpa, I've looked at a lot of incident/crash replays, and sometimes it can look way different from multiple perspectives.
I've saved replays before when I wanted to show someone punting me, but when I view it from other perspectives, it kinda looks like I turned down into the other car.
I think it's because it doesn't always look the same from both of your viewpoints is a big reason for disagreements over who to blame.

that would certainly explain why he was so not understanding.
Well, it's bygone anyway. Back to racing

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

The Genesis is a good car to use in Race B this week. I was about to break into the .31 in quali with it, but ran out of time and the matching screen came on. I am confident of bringing it to the lower .31. It is stable in the race as well.

So far I have had a good run in Race B. Made up lots of places in all the races I entered. Got 2 consecutive CRB's. Almost took victory in one, but totally lost the plot because I was paying too much attention to the rear view mirror.

Thinking of going back to the Genesis on Race B as it was a fun drive the last time around. But, at the moment the WRX is equally as stable and fast around Brands.

2 races on the NA server this morning (B/S room). Field full of Megane's with the exception of me in the WRX, another WRX, and a Beemer. Starting at the back in both races, somehow managed to finish 3rd (Beemer won with the other WRX in 2nd) and 4th behind the Beemer, Megane and WRX), with 2 CRB's.

Sure the Megane is the meta car, but 8/10 racers just can't handle it. It really is like driving through the "biblical times" Red Sea.

I think I genuinely overtook 2, maybe 3 cars per race, the rest just fell off the track.

Finding the EMEA server the same too, in the C/S rooms.

 

[Tsugi]

that would certainly explain why he was so not understanding.
Well, it's bygone anyway. Back to racing

To me it seemed like a racing incident not malicious. He was gaining on you out of the second to last corner and wanted to outbrake you at the final one. You didn't defend and he figured the move was on. However I'd argue that given that type of corner it's a bit of an ambitious move and requires a lot of faith in the other driver to pull off without incident, and personally I'd never go for it unless I was already side by side. Couldn't see if they got a penalty at the end but they should've (but with the system we've got, who are we kidding here lol).

Happens all too often really, not just in GT Sport. The takeaway for me from this would be to try and spot this sooner and defend straight away. But hey, it's super easy for us to analyse it after the fact and hindsight is 20/20 blah blah blah, all we can do is learn from it and get better at racing 👍

 

[NoStopN]

@RacingGrandpa sorry m8, but you could have left a bit of space there. He was already on your rear quarter panel before turn in. At least from this angle

From the angle we see, I'd personally say the Cayman was trying to make a move in a bad spot. What makes me feel like that is "the dart". When the trailing car suddenly darts out of line, that's a sign that they are planning the move. I've been both of those cars (the dart & lead car) before. In many cases, I tried to get out from behind a driver I felt was slow & it lead to bad results. The Porsche driver should have at least apologized.

 

[05XR8]

Yes, nothing can change what happened. Be a little more zen

True that. I'd zero in on that player next race.

 

[roamingbard13]

I cut another second off my Autopolis QT. Getting ready to start a race from the pole. Fingers crossed I get through T1.

Edit:

took the win. T1 was not clean, and somehow I managed to take 4 second penalty when I was in front of the car that hit me. I never saw another car again, and pulled a 19.5 second gap for the win. (Kinda boring though, tbh, haha)

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

Finally got back to B/S rating on EMEA after being down in the C's for 64 Kudosprime days.

Gained 1959 points in just 2 B races, from the back, with the WRX.

These Megane's are more of a pest than the last Brands Hatch round a couple of week's back.

 

[sturk0167]

I just had a really good race A. I started 2nd, and for the whole 7 laps I never got more than .5 behind the leader.
I was impressed. The guy never messed up, and ended up beating me by .103.
I never had a legit chance to pass him, and we never made any contact. It was fun. 👍

 

[Gvmuller]

Having fun in the race C so far, starting mostly 5th on a S, A, high B lobby. The only tricky part is the first corner as always in grid stars. I'm trying to be calm and stay out of trouble, gaining lots of positions like that.

 

[Invisigoth]

Building castles in the sand...Race C. I did a number of qualifying laps, but I hit a wall and the best I could manage was about 3s too slow. That had me starting P11/18 on a mixed DR/B/C grid.

Race starts and T1 was a disaster. I thought I was going to make it, but just as I thought I was out of the woods, the car next to me was hit by another car, who then hit me and into the sand I went. Lesson.. even if you have to crawl around it, take the inside at the start! I rejoined the track in P17 .

I started to circulate. Dang the Jr handles like a race car during qualy, but during the race, it handles very much like the kart . After a few laps I was up to P12. Then this happend: (yes, we have pictures!)

So apparently, this is not a short cut penalty:

He pushes me wide to get back onto the track.. again no penalty. A few frames later:

As you can see, I am strait on the track. He is on the *other* side of the track! Lets skip to a few frames later:

Yeh, he hits me . So here's the first wall contact caused by him driving into me:

I'm more or less a passenger. Hitting this wall bounced me across the track and:

No penalty for him for short cutting the track *or* hitting me... twice! I get a 7s penalty for hitting the wall . I dropped back to P15 .

I continued to drift my way round the circuit with a pass up the inside on the final corner (the guy in front had tyre issue and went very wide) I finished P11.

SR blue, DR down another 130. Day 2 in DR/B .

 

[Mc_Yavel]

Another boring Race A. Used to love that track but not anymore.

Race C is a good combo. I choose to start from the back to avoid being in the midfield T1 mess. Work pretty well, started 18th and finished 3rd. I dont even remember overtaking a car on track.

 

[250Cal]

Suffered a classic combo where a jump-starter wasn't ghosted and due to the fact I was turning off the TCS, after using a bit to launch, I couldn't steer quickly and accurately enough to miss them so I clipped it and half spun. Amazing scenes. Just have to laugh at **** like that.

 

[Dragonistic]

What sort of qualifying times is reasonable getting on Brands for around Dr A?

At the moment I do qualifying in the week and race at the weekend, I'm at 1:29.952 in the NSX I think I can do a 1:29.7, that feels about where I left off in relative terms to top 10 on NGP last week but I'm less familiar with Brands in a competitive setting.

Context: I'm less than a week into this game I feel like Dr A is a reasonable goal for me on DS4, anything more is probably pushing beyond my capability. I'm currently mid B but NGP is a speciality track for me from other games.

 

[250Cal]

What sort of qualifying times is reasonable getting on Brands for around Dr A?

At the moment I do qualifying in the week and race at the weekend, I'm at 1:29.952 in the NSX I think I can do a 1:29.7, that feels about where I left off in relative terms to top 10 on NGP last week but I'm less familiar with Brands in a competitive setting.

Context: I'm less than a week into this game I feel like Dr A is a reasonable goal for me on DS4, anything more is probably pushing beyond my capability. I'm currently mid B but NGP is a speciality track for me from other games.

Depends what region you are in and your definition of reasonable. There are over 550 people in EMEA sub 1:29.5 so you need to be under that if you want to be in the top half of the grid IMO.

 

[Dragonistic]

Depends what region you are in and your definition of reasonable. There are over 550 people in EMEA sub 1:29.5 so you need to be under that if you want to be in the top half of the grid IMO.

I didn't even know I could see that, thanks I've found it now, looks like I'm 1,385 and 2% off the top which is slightly better than NGP though presumably with less entrants. Frankly I'll be happy just being on the grid at A rating. Considering I was on the podium nearly every race at NGP looks like I may be able to keep climbing but not with ease in a sprint setting where I imagine there will be more desperate moves than the longer race last week (sticking with Gr.4 while I'm limited on time to learn a new class/car).

 

[Johnnyboy532]

What brake balance are people using with the Meagan? I tried using it to put in a better qualifying time, so I can start closer to the front in the Mustang. I only managed to run a hair faster with it. I did a 1:31.19 with the mustang and a 1.31.16 with the Megane. I was anticipating a huge jump but I was all out of wack with it.

 

[JohnnyMac]

They won't do that at Daytona but they modified the infield course at Charlotte and they now run a 'Roval' there. Actually works pretty well, including the turn 1 from hell like most tracks on gt sport. You should check out the finish from the first time they raced there. I took a tour of the track and can tell you it is more up and down than it looks.

Yes it is.
Last spring they held a Mustang Owners Museum sponsored event celebrating 55 years of the Ford Mustang at Charlotte. On that saturday afternoon they let us on the track in groups of 15 for 5 laps. Let us go as fast as we wanted. Towards the end of the road course section at turn 6 (slight uphill), going into turn 7 (downhill), you cannot see turn 7 until you're almost on top of it. Had no idea there was that much elevation change.

They took pictures of everybody in turn 4 of the oval (for a fee of course). Fun day.

 

[Gvmuller]

Will stay away from the night lobbies in the race C, complete reckless driving by most players who think that every corner is an overtaking point. Plus someone slightly rub the back of my car in T1, no harm to both of us, yet I got a 4 second penalty.

Penalty system was so much better before the two last changes, they completely ruined it.

 

[Stencedaddy]

Yes it is.
Last spring they held a Mustang Owners Museum sponsored event celebrating 55 years of the Ford Mustang at Charlotte. On that saturday afternoon they let us on the track in groups of 15 for 5 laps. Let us go as fast as we wanted. Towards the end of the road course section at turn 6 (slight uphill), going into turn 7 (downhill), you cannot see turn 7 until you're almost on top of it. Had no idea there was that much elevation change.

They took pictures of everybody in turn 4 of the oval (for a fee of course). Fun day.

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[05XR8]

Boy, I am rusty with the 86. Set a time of 1:29.639. Just .032 slower than my Slophy time. 1 second faster than my Supra time.

Only thing is, it doesn't have that sharp turn-in like the Supra. Better gearing compared to the Supra. 86 allowed me to attack more. In the Supra, I have to be smoother, but allows me to carry my speed in corners smoother.

 

[Invisigoth]

Boy, I am rusty with the 86. Set a time of 1:29.639. Just .032 slower than my Slophy time. 1 second faster than my Supra time.

That's odd, you used to always be able to beat the trophies with the fake6.

Only thing is, it doesn't have that sharp turn-in like the Supra. Better gearing compared to the Supra. 86 allowed me to attack more. In the Supra, I have to be smoother, but allows me to carry my speed in corners smoother.

Considering you have been campaigning the Supra almost exclusively since they let it loose, you aught to know it's nuances by now . I find it slow to turn in and takes too much time before I can dump the throttle on the exit. Yes it's a weapon in the right hands, but it just doesn't suit my brutish driving style... the 4C so far has probably been the most suited.... but I'm still slow .

 

[BombayPhantom]

Thinking of going back to the Genesis on Race B as it was a fun drive the last time around. But, at the moment the WRX is equally as stable and fast around Brands.

2 races on the NA server this morning (B/S room). Field full of Megane's with the exception of me in the WRX, another WRX, and a Beemer. Starting at the back in both races, somehow managed to finish 3rd (Beemer won with the other WRX in 2nd) and 4th behind the Beemer, Megane and WRX), with 2 CRB's.

Sure the Megane is the meta car, but 8/10 racers just can't handle it. It really is like driving through the "biblical times" Red Sea.

I think I genuinely overtook 2, maybe 3 cars per race, the rest just fell off the track.

Finding the EMEA server the same too, in the C/S rooms.

I used the WRX the last time we had the GR4 and Brands Hatch combo. I loved it and would have ideally gone for it this time as well, but gave the Genesis a shot, and it just works so well here.

Out of curiosity, I tried the Megane Trophy in Race B quali last night, and I am certain I can better my current quali time with it, but I just don't like the way it drives. I will probably use it to set a fast lap, and then use the Genesis in the races

In other news from last evenings races - I dropped quali time from .32 to .31. Was half way through the warm up lap when the door bell rang. I had 2 choices - I could let the food delivery guy wait till the race was over (which he wouldn't), or just hit pause and hope I could be back in time by the time the race starts. That did not happen! By the time I got back to the game, I was already disqualified from the race for ignoring penalties . Lost 1000 DR and 10-15 SR.

Race 2 - Match making complete. Warm up about to start. Disconnects from server. I want to scream at this point. I get into quali mode, and drive angrily and shave off a few 100th of a second.

Race 3 & 4 pay off. Finished both on the podium. Gained the lost DR and SR back. Again, almost took victory. If i keep my head down, I smell victory in Race B now

 

[05XR8]

That's odd, you used to always be able to beat the trophies with the fake6.



Considering you have been campaigning the Supra almost exclusively since they let it loose, you aught to know it's nuances by now . I find it slow to turn in and takes too much time before I can dump the throttle on the exit. Yes it's a weapon in the right hands, but it just doesn't suit my brutish driving style... the 4C so far has probably been the most suited.... but I'm still slow .

You can see me going straight on as I'm on the brakes and then trying to trailbrake. Car felt heavy. I understeered off after that Slophy passed me up the inside. Of course I didn't have Wets on, but the car nearly felt like that. Started to get my flow back and it was still feeling front end heavy.

 

[Invisigoth]

I'm glad that the game lets me upload image files to usb and that GTP lets you upload the files here directly, rather than having to link to a website. Photobucket screwed me over .

 

[QC YALUM]

Another boring Race A. Used to love that track but not anymore.

Race C is a good combo. I choose to start from the back to avoid being in the midfield T1 mess. Work pretty well, started 18th and finished 3rd. I dont even remember overtaking a car on track.

First race yesterday was a mess same guy took me out 3 times i tink u was in this race to , but the next one was awesome started last and finished 2nd at less than a second from the winner i only add times for 2 race yesterday i hope i can do more of them today

 

[Veinz]

I really enjoy Race C. I don't know how people can run 44's and even 43s in the race. I do NOT have that kind of confidence. lol

using -5 BB in the qualy and the race.

 

[Invisigoth]

So I pulled out my #8 rod, looked at the river of black tarmac, and pulled out a lurid, vulgar mixture of marabou, flashabou and chartreuse dyed feathers tied to a hook. Looking at the trophies on the grid, yep, reckon I've managed to Match the Hatch 👍! So I grabbed the GT-R (yeh, I know.. @Sven Jurgens hates me now) and did some qualifying laps. The first lap was almost 2s faster than the best I could do with the comfy 4C. A few more laps saw me more than 2s faster, with an optimum almost 3s faster. Wish I'd got that optimum , I started P11/15, it was complete and total B/S. Optimum would have had me starting P4.

Countdown to start commences and I'm packing darkies on my first full DR/B grid. My previous experience has been that DR/B is when I come across actual dirty drivers, as apposed to those that just get a bit ambitious. It's also where you start to see "META Syndrome".

Off we go and I hug the inside of T1... I am *not* gunna get flung off play in the sand by some digby with entitlement issues! There were a couple who weren't so lucky. I was keeping up with the cars in front, trying to deal with the Viper directly in front of me. He was a roadblock that alowed a hungry pack to close in, but I had no overlap, and couldn't see any openings that I felt confident with, so I just clung on.

As the race progressed people getting ambitious or over cooking things started sliding off or spinning out. I got passed by another car, not sure what. We were side by side approaching a corner, so I backed off so neither of us went off. A few corners later he came off, and I could swear he swerved away when he was coming back onto the track so he didn't hit me. I was pleasantly surprised .

So back to the Viper. I just held station behind him. He got a bit unsteady at times so I figured sooner or later he would come off. No such luck. I had a car spin out and ghost in front of me. That distracted me and I missed my braking point... I was *still* able to pull up Godzilla (I can say that, even though it's not an R32... the commentators for the Bathurst 12H used it ). The GT-R was a brute, it felt so strong around Brands, and I had enough control to be side by side and make adjustments to keep from pushing the other car off . It's also one of the few cars I have TC off. In the end I finished P7 with a CRB, which was a bit of a shock .

So, SR blue, and I got all the DR I lost from the last 2 races back with a few in change. Day 3 in hostile territory, which is longer than my first visit to DR/C.

 

[roamingbard13]

I really enjoy Race C. I don't know how people can run 44's and even 43s in the race. I do NOT have that kind of confidence. lol

using -5 BB in the qualy and the race.

Me either. My qualifying time is in the 44s, and when I opened up the gap in my race yesterday I ran nice and safe high 1:46s and low 1:47s and still pulled way. Corners 3, 5 to 6, 11 and 12 are all probably at least 5 mph slower for me in the race, haha.

 

[Gvmuller]

What's the deal with the DR ranking? Just won a race and lost 400 points.