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[RacingGrandpa]

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what made it worse I was on pole and was well clear by 0.5 until the hairpin
Then I lose 2k in dr it’s not like I’m a elite player and I don’t profess to be but I pride myself in racing clean and it’s taking me 2 years to get to the level I’m at and a weekend of good results are wiped out in 5 laps because of muppets like that ,I even reported it because he sent a derogatory message to me on psn .

Reporting him to Sony for sending that is what works. That is a clear breach in the conduct and will land him a temporary ban. Reporting in game does nothing.

 

[Ian JB]

Where the heck do some of you guys get 55.xx in race A in a kart?

My thumbs have been worn down to stumps and I am still only at 57.625!

Am I missing something real obvious please?

Regards.

Ian.

 

[EinsTheOne]

Where the heck do some of you guys get 55.xx in race A in a kart?

My thumbs have been worn down to stumps and I am still only at 57.625!

Am I missing something real obvious please?

Regards.

Ian.

See, the problem is you're from earth... You're just a normal human being, you (we) can't really compare to the Aliens doing 55s

But in all seriousness, in case you didn't know, you can load their ghosts into your qualifying session and see exactly where they pull ahead in real time...

 

[RacingGrandpa]

See, the problem is you're from earth... You're just a normal human being, you (we) can't really compare to the Aliens doing 55s

But in all seriousness, in case you didn't know, you can load their ghosts into your qualifying session and see exactly where they pull ahead in real time...

Also, turn ABS off (remember to turn it back on before entering any other race), and lower rotation if on a wheel.

 

[EinsTheOne]

In preparation for tomorrow's race C, I went back and watched a few of @GOTMAXPOWER 's old clips...
This superb battle is worth watching again


I also notice that some people were using the Peugeot and Alpine VGT... Now my question is, at which point of the rev bar does one have to short shift to get those cars to the end without pit stopping?


Now lastly, I clicked on one of @GOTMAXPOWER old GT6 videos, and I hate to be that guy, but for me, the GT6 version of La Sarthe seems to be more detailed than the GT Sport version.... Specially the road surface details...

 

[adokeeffe]

 

[Ian JB]

OK - Further to the helpful replies thus far...

ABS off.
TC - ?
Controller sensitivity?

57.4xx now.

Regards.

Ian.

 

[dlshearon]

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On a roll today!! Well done!

 

[Racerx_34]

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NICE

 

[Deadpool]

Some of you are doing two stops at Fuji???

It costs around 7 seconds for the pit.....but tires are not a issue. With a 1 stop starting on Hards, pitting lap 6 I can do 1:32’s on lap 13 with mediums. You’re losing time with the extra stop and falling into traffic.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

In preparation for tomorrow's race C, I went back and watched a few of @GOTMAXPOWER 's old clips...
This superb battle is worth watching again


I also notice that some people were using the Peugeot and Alpine VGT... Now my question is, at which point of the rev bar does one have to short shift to get those cars to the end without pit stopping?


Now lastly, I clicked on one of @GOTMAXPOWER old GT6 videos, and I hate to be that guy, but for me, the GT6 version of La Sarthe seems to be more detailed than the GT Sport version.... Specially the road surface details...

The GTS version is a more up to date one, pretty much everything after Mulsanne corner is different, the road sections have had the grass replaced with asphalt so it is pretty much 2 lanes wider and the runoff is much larger through the Porsche Curves, maybe they resurfaced at the same time. Also interesting to see so many trees gone on the way to Indianapolis (I think they had an arson attack there a few years ago).

btw I'm surprised anybody watches my videos, glad you like it!

 

[MIE1992]

I wonder if my problems with GTS go beyond GTS, and are more so with skilled match-making as a general online mechanic? I think my largest issue is that I don't feel like I'm seeing progress, and I think that's typical for games that use skilled match-making. I'm not asking to get matched with completely unskilled players for easy wins, but as it stands, I don't feel like improving pays dividends.

 

[O604]

I wonder if my problems with GTS go beyond GTS, and are more so with skilled match-making as a general online mechanic? I think my largest issue is that I don't feel like I'm seeing progress, and I think that's typical for games that use skilled match-making. I'm not asking to get matched with completely unskilled players for easy wins, but as it stands, I don't feel like improving pays dividends.

Maybe instead of looking for general improvement. Focus on a smaller goal.

For example, Gr.4 or N100 cars. Pick a few tracks you can own. Only race when super confident. Forget every other race. Eventually move to other cars and tracks.

Overall it may feel like you're missing out on a lot of other races. But it will force you to focus. Which can only help in racing.

Just a suggest based on little facts.

 

[sturk0167]

I think my largest issue is that I don't feel like I'm seeing progress

I've felt like that many times. Then I feel better when there's a combo that I'm good at. Having a lot of race combos that don't suit your driving style, can cause a dip in your self-esteem. But then, along comes a race that you enjoy, and you feel a little better about yourself.

 

[QC YALUM]

Some of you are doing two stops at Fuji???

It costs around 7 seconds for the pit.....but tires are not a issue. With a 1 stop starting on Hards, pitting lap 6 I can do 1:32’s on lap 13 with mediums. You’re losing time with the extra stop and falling into traffic.

FL 1:30.8 on med started last finished second 1 lap on hard 6+6 on med is my fastest strategy .

 

[Veinz]

Did a little test for the next race c and I found out you can no stop with the TS050 without saving fuel. I only had 4% when I crossed the finish line though, results may vary lol.

 

[sturk0167]

Did a little test for the next race c and I found out you can no stop with the TS050 without saving fuel. I only had 4% when I crossed the finish line though, results may vary lol.

This is a list for LeMans fuel economy that @Sven Jurgens has previously posted.
I believe it's based on driving flat-out, at FM1.

Toyota TS050 5.0 laps
Toyota TS030 4.5 laps
GTR-LM Nismo 4.4 laps
Peugeot 908 HDi 4.4 laps
SRT Tomahawk 4.4 laps
Nissan R92CP 4.3 laps
Audi R18 '16 4.2 laps
Porsche 919 4.1 laps
Audi VGT 4.0 laps
Alpine VGT 4.0 laps
Mazda LM55 4.0 laps
Bugatti VGT 3.9 laps
Jaguar XJR-9 3.8 laps
Sauber C9 3.7 laps
Peugeot L750R 3.7 laps
Hyundai N 2025 3.6 laps
McLaren VGT 3.6 laps
Mazda 787B 3.5 laps
Audi R18 '11 3.5 laps

 

[roamingbard13]

This is a list for LeMans fuel economy that @Sven Jurgens has previously posted.
I believe it's based on driving flat-out, at FM1.

Toyota TS050 5.0 laps
Toyota TS030 4.5 laps
GTR-LM Nismo 4.4 laps
Peugeot 908 HDi 4.4 laps
SRT Tomahawk 4.4 laps
Nissan R92CP 4.3 laps
Audi R18 '16 4.2 laps
Porsche 919 4.1 laps
Audi VGT 4.0 laps
Alpine VGT 4.0 laps
Mazda LM55 4.0 laps
Bugatti VGT 3.9 laps
Jaguar XJR-9 3.8 laps
Sauber C9 3.7 laps
Peugeot L750R 3.7 laps
Hyundai N 2025 3.6 laps
McLaren VGT 3.6 laps
Mazda 787B 3.5 laps
Audi R18 '11 3.5 laps

I never ran out of fuel running the TS050 the last time this race was up. Slipstream probably helps during the race.

 

[Redneckchef]

This is a list for LeMans fuel economy that @Sven Jurgens has previously posted.
I believe it's based on driving flat-out, at FM1.

Toyota TS050 5.0 laps
Toyota TS030 4.5 laps
GTR-LM Nismo 4.4 laps
Peugeot 908 HDi 4.4 laps
SRT Tomahawk 4.4 laps
Nissan R92CP 4.3 laps
Audi R18 '16 4.2 laps
Porsche 919 4.1 laps
Audi VGT 4.0 laps
Alpine VGT 4.0 laps
Mazda LM55 4.0 laps
Bugatti VGT 3.9 laps
Jaguar XJR-9 3.8 laps
Sauber C9 3.7 laps
Peugeot L750R 3.7 laps
Hyundai N 2025 3.6 laps
McLaren VGT 3.6 laps
Mazda 787B 3.5 laps
Audi R18 '11 3.5 laps

I know short shifting halfway up the bar gets you to 5 laps with the Porsche 962 as well. I think. That is what I ran last time anyway.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

This is a list for LeMans fuel economy that @Sven Jurgens has previously posted.
I believe it's based on driving flat-out, at FM1.

Toyota TS050 5.0 laps
Toyota TS030 4.5 laps
GTR-LM Nismo 4.4 laps
Peugeot 908 HDi 4.4 laps
SRT Tomahawk 4.4 laps
Nissan R92CP 4.3 laps
Audi R18 '16 4.2 laps
Porsche 919 4.1 laps
Audi VGT 4.0 laps
Alpine VGT 4.0 laps
Mazda LM55 4.0 laps
Bugatti VGT 3.9 laps
Jaguar XJR-9 3.8 laps
Sauber C9 3.7 laps
Peugeot L750R 3.7 laps
Hyundai N 2025 3.6 laps
McLaren VGT 3.6 laps
Mazda 787B 3.5 laps
Audi R18 '11 3.5 laps

Yep that's with AT and FM1. Same combo again I see. The 962C had not been added yet when I made that list, it is a bit more fuel efficient than the R92CP.

 

[Deadpool]

FL 1:30.8 on med started last finished second 1 lap on hard 6+6 on med is my fastest strategy .

Starting last I could see that working in some races. But starting near the front I could see that costing too much time in traffic. My FL is usually low 31’s but I’m mostly low 32’s preserving tires.

 

[Rivixter]

Im at a loss how the fastest player has set his lap in race b. Ive watched the replay and he just seems to have far more grip than I have with little wheelspin.

Fastest I have done is 1.38.8. I know im not great but I just cant figure out how to get another 2 seconds a lap off.

Edit - Applies to most races tbh I cant get closer than 2 - 3 seconds off the fastest.

Im not sure I can even beat my own lap time it took me all week to get that fast

 

[Groundfish]

Im at a loss how the fastest player has set his lap in race b. Ive watched the replay and he just seems to have far more grip than I have with little wheelspin.

Fastest I have done is 1.38.8. I know im not great but I just cant figure out how to get another 2 seconds a lap off.

Edit - Applies to most races tbh I cant get closer than 2 - 3 seconds off the fastest.

Im not sure I can even beat my own lap time it took me all week to get that fast

I’d say you’re doing quite well. 38 is a good number. Those top ten are very very difficult to achieve, really out of reach if you don’t play 14 hours a day for almost everyone.
I will say re grip, if your car has better balance it has more grip.
For example if you are late braking very hard and try to turn with the car standing on its nose you won’t be able to take turns as fast as if the car was more level.
4 tires have more grip than just two.
Also you get more grip by not loading the tire all at once, a smoother build up of forces helps sometimes.
Realize 2 seconds or 3 to bottom of top ten is way beyond average

 

[sturk0167]

Yep that's with AT and FM1. Same combo again I see. The 962C had not been added yet when I made that list, it is a bit more fuel efficient than the R92CP.

Sven, I did 3 simulated LeMans races yesterday. The first two were fuel-saving, with the R92CP and the 962C. They seemed to be about the same on fuel. The third race was at full power, with a splash and go stop after lap 4. Overall, the total race time was way faster when I used FM1 and did the fuel only pit stop. The pit stops are really brief, there.

But a really big factor is that when I went full power all the way, it allowed me to get in front of the slower cars right away.

I don't know if you recall, but you and I did a bunch of races together, last time we had this combo. We got some top 5s when we were doing the one-stopper. 👍

 

[Rivixter]

I’d say you’re doing quite well. 38 is a good number. Those top ten are very very difficult to achieve, really out of reach if you don’t play 14 hours a day for almost everyone.
I will say re grip, if your car has better balance it has more grip.
For example if you are late braking very hard and try to turn with the car standing on its nose you won’t be able to take turns as fast as if the car was more level.
4 tires have more grip than just two.
Also you get more grip by not loading the tire all at once, a smoother build up of forces helps sometimes.
Realize 2 seconds or 3 to bottom of top ten is way beyond average

Talk about boosting my confidence, thanks man

 

[05XR8]

I think I've done better than 3.5 in the 787B. Won't find out, as I'm sitting the Dailies out for a while. Just doing FIA Manu races.

 

[250Cal]

It’s too bad there isn’t some sort of unranked mode that allows for the same coordination and organization as the usual races, but oh well. I’m giving up. I’m tired of trying my best every time, only to not see any improvement because I never win. At some point I just needed to realize I don’t really want to play GT to be the best at it. I really was thinking of donating the game, too, if it weren’t for the additions of GT League events. I think I may be done.

There is an unranked mode, it's called lobbies. There are also loads of races, series and leagues set up on this forum, and others.
However, if you enter them expecting to win every race, you will be disappointed again.

You constantly post things like this. People constantly offer feedback and advice. You've won 11 races. Your DR reflects a gradual improvement. You can measure your improvement in pace by trying to improve your K-Score. If you want to win more races, you need to give yourself the best chance by qualifying as near to the front as possible. If you want to get better you need to put the hours in. If you've done your best and lost, that's just as good as it could be on that occasion. If you genuinely can't see what you could do differently then that's all you've got. If you've stopped improving and hit a threshold, then that's different. That's just as far as your talent will take you and it's time to find something to like about that.

Being blunt, I don't think the issue here is GTS.

 

[250Cal]

OK - Further to the helpful replies thus far...

ABS off.
TC - ?
Controller sensitivity?

57.4xx now.

Regards.

Ian.

Something has changed with the dynamics of the karts as he game has evolved so I've kinda lost my mojo with them but I've done a 56.0 and not had the time this week to improve on it.

I actually don't find a benefit of ABS off. Similarly TCS off can be quicker but is less forgiving. I've not adjusted my controller settings specifically for the karts and I've also been running BB 0 much of the time.

All that said, per above, watching the fastest laps is a good indication of line and braking points, the tricky bit I find with the karts is a) smooth lines and b) getting on the power cleanly. Smooth and steady will get you into the 56s. The kart will punish you for overdriving.

Small controller inputs are key. Running 4th gear out of T1 is ultimately slower but is definitely more consistent and less likely to spit you into the barrier. The left hand hairpin I use 3rd and aim to get into the heart of the bend and accelerate out as soon as I can after the apex. It's then flat to the right hand hairpin, again 3rd. Slow in fast out definitely works and gives me more time than trying to be super late on the brakes.

 

[EinsTheOne]

This is a list for LeMans fuel economy that @Sven Jurgens has previously posted.
I believe it's based on driving flat-out, at FM1.

Toyota TS050 5.0 laps
Toyota TS030 4.5 laps
GTR-LM Nismo 4.4 laps
Peugeot 908 HDi 4.4 laps
SRT Tomahawk 4.4 laps
Nissan R92CP 4.3 laps
Audi R18 '16 4.2 laps
Porsche 919 4.1 laps
Audi VGT 4.0 laps
Alpine VGT 4.0 laps
Mazda LM55 4.0 laps
Bugatti VGT 3.9 laps
Jaguar XJR-9 3.8 laps
Sauber C9 3.7 laps
Peugeot L750R 3.7 laps
Hyundai N 2025 3.6 laps
McLaren VGT 3.6 laps
Mazda 787B 3.5 laps
Audi R18 '11 3.5 laps

Have the fuel consumption rates been altered since this test was made?
Because the best I can get out of the Peugeot 908 is 3.6 laps (going flat out on FM1 and Manual gears)

Edit: with the Toyota TS050, I run out fuel a couple of meters before the finish line on lap 5... I think I can short shift for a bit to mitigate it...
Maybe I'm just really bad at saving fuel..

Edit 2: does traction control increase fuel consumption?

 

[Egghaus88]

Finally broke the 56s barrier in the kart with a 55.95. I was stuck here last time karts were run at Tsukuba. Going to BB +3 really helped me get into the corners better. Also going ABS off and TCS 0.