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Why not? To me it makes more sense than having pit stops that barely take longer than the time it takes to get down there main straight, because from what I'm seeing people are just exploiting that. If there are mandatory pit stops and someone does a two stop strategy, that needs to be an actual risk in time loss compared to a one stop. I see the fastest drivers in my lobbies do it and their time loss is negligible.

That's true. I've been trying to make long runs on H work only to see the leaders stop and come back out ahead.
The hards are useless and take you out of contention. Might double stop from now on.
 
Managed to hook 3 decent sectors together in the Supra for a 41.4. Replay looks pretty good (just one smallish mistake)... 1.6s slower than TRL_Adam :lol:

Great combo.

The second sector at Spa is such a fabulous series of flowing corners. None of the ‘made up’ tracks can match the real stuff like this.
 
That's true. I've been trying to make long runs on H work only to see the leaders stop and come back out ahead.
The hards are useless and take you out of contention. Might double stop from now on.
I've been running hards for 5 laps, and then mediums for 3 - seems to work OK, went from 11th to 6th, and then 11th to 3rd today. So funny seeing cars coming up behind me flashing their lights, and then starting to drop back as their tyres go off!

Even two-stoppers seem to struggle a bit on the last lap (especially the Beetle, for some reason).
 
I've been running hards for 5 laps, and then mediums for 3 - seems to work OK, went from 11th to 6th, and then 11th to 3rd today. So funny seeing cars coming up behind me flashing their lights, and then starting to drop back as their tyres go off!

Even two-stoppers seem to struggle a bit on the last lap (especially the Beetle, for some reason).

That's the same strategy I've been using.
Worked fine in the Beetle.
Viper was hard work.
 
Ran a few more cars in practice at Kyoto. Started with the Beetle, trimmed a few 10ths off my best time, which was in the 18 Supra concept. It seems to drive like a FF rather than an FR configuration, nice and stable, you can get on the power early and it doesn't push wide.
GTR next, again I shaved a few 10ths off my best time, understeer when you feed in the power isn't good and the brakes felt weak, possibly explains why they need to use other cars to make the corner :lol:
Next was the FT 1, went slightly faster again, felt a lot better than the Nissan and more natural than the Beetle. It is a VGT car though.
Conclusion; Might just use the Mustang with my current QT of 2.17.1xx and make the Nissan drivers work for their credits, ha.
 
I can't come on here and complain about other drivers when I'm guilty of the same tactics from time to time, so here you go. I saw the battle, I took a slightly slower than normal approach to the apex, but I suppose I was expecting them to remain 2-wide through the entire arc of the turn, I did not expect the under-cut and by the time it played out, I looked like the schmuck ramming him off. I'll sleep fine though, because the driver that got side swiped was the one who caused me to spin out at the beginning of the race.

 
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Race C 1H/4M/3M?

I would switch the 4M to the last run. Less fuel weight tyres will last longer in thoery..

Tried it, it didn't work for me, but i got rammed off twice in the last stint by the same driver, without that I could see it could work, still went from 17th to 12th, although made one of my best ever overtakes, round the outside on the bit rejoining the big track.

Went for a second go, and went back to 2/3/3, and had a much cleaner race, some great clean racing with another Brit in a Merc over the first couple of laps, and a few little battles all the way through, went from 15th to 5th, and a really fun race.
 
Just had an absolutely, blindingly good race at Kyoto.
Started P3 in the Mustang on mediums. Beetle and a GTR ahead, reasonable variety behind. Then 3 laps of pure clean racing, little taps but nothing malicious. Enter pits for hards start of lap 4, P9 after allowing those coming down the straight. P5 start of lap 7. Others were going for a 3 stop and closing the gap, decided to pit for 2 more laps on mediums, P9 ish again but on fresh tyres worked my way up to 7th with some good clean passes. I did get hit hard once, but the other driver conceded when safe & apologised after.
That race alone was worth putting up with a few terrible ones because I know it's out there. Even in B S groupings :lol::cheers:
 
I saw a guy on mediums DESTROY his tires in 3 laps on c race. He was using poor technique.
Someone else I saw was same car same tires made 2 seconds a lap faster. Half the wear over 4 laps the first had. Both on pad, 1 skilled driver, one not so much.
It’s not as if tire wear is simply a fixed rate based on car.
Turning on line and not overdriving might help folks eating tires like crazy, even using tcs too.
 
Feeling quite disappointed at my race pace at Kyoto. Not slow in the grand scheme of things but way off the pace of guys I compete against in FIA, which is discouraging :( Maybe it's a pad disadvantage at the track, x15 tire wear doesn't help either, but I should be doing better than this :indiff:

Two races on my main today, one P3 and one P2 (atrocious pace from pole :() to just barely (by 9 points) bring me above 76000 DR. Doesn't feel like it's worth much though.
 
I may have to try a different strategy today... Been running 4H 4M, but seem to be way off the pace... If I can hang in there and not get into any collisions, I tend to gain some positions by avoiding one pitstop (and have a couple of laps in “free air”)... Yesterday had the luck of been in a lobby with a few A+, S and A players (I believe I was the only B player in the lobby), watching the pace at the front was incredible.
 
Feeling quite disappointed at my race pace at Kyoto. Not slow in the grand scheme of things but way off the pace of guys I compete against in FIA, which is discouraging :( Maybe it's a pad disadvantage at the track, x15 tire wear doesn't help either, but I should be doing better than this :indiff:

Two races on my main today, one P3 and one P2 (atrocious pace from pole :() to just barely (by 9 points) bring me above 76000 DR. Doesn't feel like it's worth much though.

That track with that tyre wear rate is toxic for DS4, I've not even tried. Because of the way the steering works, you really work the front tyres using the DS4 in those long corners. You've no chance.
 
Managed to get my qualifying time down to 2:18 on Race C, now being matched against people that are doing it in the low 2:16s. I feel like I'm wringing everything out of the car and then to see people that are going 2 seconds faster is a bit annoying. I struggle to get the correct line and gear combos on the transitions between both the tracks. Anyone got any good tips on how to do them properly?
 
Managed to get my qualifying time down to 2:18 on Race C, now being matched against people that are doing it in the low 2:16s. I feel like I'm wringing everything out of the car and then to see people that are going 2 seconds faster is a bit annoying. I struggle to get the correct line and gear combos on the transitions between both the tracks. Anyone got any good tips on how to do them properly?

I don’t know the track we’ll so I’ve been using the line aid. Follow the yellow brick road.
Being off line is very costly in tires and time. Tcs with partial throttle really helps in those tricky bits, to maintain a higher minimum speed and have the car more stable in the event of unintended collisions. Good luck!
 
I don’t know the track we’ll so I’ve been using the line aid. Follow the yellow brick road.
Being off line is very costly in tires and time. Tcs with partial throttle really helps in those tricky bits, to maintain a higher minimum speed and have the car more stable in the event of unintended collisions. Good luck!

I'm running the Beetle with TCS at 2 on a controller. I think that I know where to brake, the first white line for the first change and then just on the yellow paint for the second change and it seems comfortable enough, it's just when I'm in a race that's the 2 places that I notice that I lose time at.
 
More fun and success in Race C today, first off in the Audi, and the usual massive over steer after 3 laps of each stint. Won it on a 2 stop H/M/M.

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After that, went back to the reliable Porsche, 3 wins on a 1 stop, H/M.

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Some of the antics from today's racing! :D



All a question of keeping away from others, and your nose clean. Going well with the new account, already up to B/S after a few days.....And no, that doesn't stand for BillShut, or a very similar word! :dopey: :lol: :cheers:

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Managed to get my qualifying time down to 2:18 on Race C, now being matched against people that are doing it in the low 2:16s. I feel like I'm wringing everything out of the car and then to see people that are going 2 seconds faster is a bit annoying. I struggle to get the correct line and gear combos on the transitions between both the tracks. Anyone got any good tips on how to do them properly?

1st track transition, I brake just after the tree shadows, 2nd bush on the left,trail brake in and keep right, it's the next left where I gain time over people, no brake feather throttle and nail it just before apex.
Next transition, my brake point is 1/2 way on the yellow paint, trail brake to last right apex, once again its the drive out through the next left that's gaining me time.
In race I try & cover inside to deter any opportunistic moves.
Hope that helps :cheers:
 
That track with that tyre wear rate is toxic for DS4, I've not even tried. Because of the way the steering works, you really work the front tyres using the DS4 in those long corners. You've no chance.
Good to know I'm not the only one struggling with this then. It's a shame because I actually enjoy the combo, and my pace + the amount of effort that has gone into it clearly doesn't reflect that :boggled:
 
Good to know I'm not the only one struggling with this then. It's a shame because I actually enjoy the combo, and my pace + the amount of effort that has gone into it clearly doesn't reflect that :boggled:

I think that track is the worst in the game for DS4 users if tyre wear is on. I think it's because you can't get an accurate enough steering input, there's something in the game that makes an adjustment for steering input vs steering angle vs speed or similar to make the DS4 work. The same stick position gives a different steering wheel angle depending on speed. In my hands, that means I just scrub the **** out of the front tyre in those long high speed bends, constantly running a fraction more steering than I need to but I can't "feel" the grip so you're just fractionally overdriving the car. I try to back the stick off just a touch to minimise it but the risk with that is that you go around the corner in a jerky motion rather than a smooth arc, which is slower and probably does more harm to the tyre. Drive it clumsily and you'll burn off a medium front tyre in a lap. I'll do a respectable quali lap and then get destroyed in the race because I've got more tyre wear and the drop off in pace is savage. If you drop the pace to try to contain it, it's not competitive. If you're running in quicker lobbies you're screwed. There are very few DS4 users I am aware of who can make it work and what the difference in technique is, I don't know. Your pace, especially in races, is always quicker than mine, so your technique is better. That means my tyre wear issue is worse than yours and I'd be running nearer the back in similar lobbies at A+. **** that!
 
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