"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Mudda Chod]

SSRX on a week when I'm off work for the first time since March? Sign me the **** up. Hopefully it goes better than my Nations runs there did.

Totally me too

Tried Fuji. Quit on T1. Why would I want to continue?

I don't know what I did wrong but it feels like the game is intentionally trying to make me quit by matching me with worse 🤬 everyday.

I was like this, last week on Monza... There is a way out... Don't race bad tracks on your main profile...

The penalty system should be customised for each track, but we all know about the many poor aspects of the penalty system, and the many ways it could be easily improved.... But it's not going to happen, so....

1. Remind yourself that it's a game. If you want to be a professional sim racer, move to pc.

2. Get a second profile, drink a few beers and strap into your rig for some Fuji madness with the other kids.

3. Only race your main profile on tracks where you are faster, and it's actually possible to race clean if you try i.e. Not Fuji, Monza or Nurnb GP where T1 madness is guaranteed, and not Suzuka or Spa where punters are guaranteed. Those tracks do not match the penalty system and are only suitable for second profile racing

When the game just seems intent on giving you SR downs, no matter well-behaved you are, it creates monsters.
Well, here I am. Not gonna bother to race clean anymore. It seems to do me no good. Going for wins at all costs. Sorry if any of you end up racing me.

*Update: SR 4, now.

Ouch

 

[6BK]

I’d say when I was first driving group1/c I felt braking perfectly straight then coming off sooner than group three was something I worked on.
For me I find gr3 fr cars loooove trail braking heavy. I think it depends what car you’ve been driving most before taking on a group c monster. (How it seems/feels)

On a separate subject, this week I lack time, and not being able to invest time (for me anyhow) means being off pace period.
I’ve had fun though in the B realm. People have been good in the times I have raced.
The B race WILL at all levels have a few dirty ones, quick sprint, class that’s more easily controlled than group 3, track, it somehow combines into a dirty one every few races, or it did when I’ve entered.
The bottom line is this game can satisfy those who thirst maximum investment of effort and competition, or like me in this case, those who quench their thirst and unwind with a few races.
J’aime GTS.

Brilliantly put! I’ve thankfully got a very busy real life. I would like to have the time to invest in getting as good as I can at GT but in reality it’s something I pop into for 30 mins or an hour every couple of nights before bed just to unwind. In the past the knowledge that I was off my own best pace due to lack of practice stopped me from racing because I’d lose SR & DR. That however becomes utterly self defeating because you end up not racing at all because you can’t race to your best. If you’re willing to accept that you’ll be off pace, find yourself in lower lobbies, perhaps even see your DR tank, and just enjoy what you can get out of it the game becomes very enjoyable again.

 

[jnm23]

Decided to dive into Race A this morning having avoided sport mode all week.

Admittedly my DR is low (D), but had a bizarre race with a mix of QT from 1.37 to 1.50
Qualified P3 with 1.38.

Massive crash at T1. P2 licks up a 6 second penalty. P1 is about 4 seconds ahead than decides to play drifting games and bins it on lap 3, so I win by default with a FL of 1.40... surely one of the slowest ever.

I think this car / track combo causes huge variation as it's so easy to fall off the track in the 911 on SS tyres, especially at the corkscrew.

I'm thinking F40 or Ford GT (the V8 one not the new one) may be best picks for Race A next week

 

[Rexracer702]

Brilliantly put! I’ve thankfully got a very busy real life. I would like to have the time to invest in getting as good as I can at GT but in reality it’s something I pop into for 30 mins or an hour every couple of nights before bed just to unwind. In the past the knowledge that I was off my own best pace due to lack of practice stopped me from racing because I’d lose SR & DR. That however becomes utterly self defeating because you end up not racing at all because you can’t race to your best. If you’re willing to accept that you’ll be off pace, find yourself in lower lobbies, perhaps even see your DR tank, and just enjoy what you can get out of it the game becomes very enjoyable again.

That sounds a lot like me. With Covid, I had some extra time for racing, and actually hit the top 10, and finished top 20 in my region a couple times with some (slow) combos, but I'm busy again and don't have the practice time. I often wonder how fast I could get if I had time to do the laps to get there. But I don't, so I have an alt account and I usually race from the back, and look for a good race. Sometimes I get reset, but I'm usually DR-B and , though SR has been C,B,A lately, it's usually S unless it's a dirty combo. Sometimes it's brutal, but sometimes you get into a pack that's racing, not bashing, and no matter the positions, this is what I live for when it comes to GTS, and why I continue to play.

 

[Carrera1963]

Next week's dailies
A: N600 @ Route X, 1 lap, RH / Setup enabled

Wow, I wonder if it’s a single make, or a short list of supplied cars like last time... I’d love it to be open, there’s some classics like the F40 or GT40 that would be fun when tuned up.

hopefully penalties off so we can bump draft?

 

[05XR8]

Tried the "real" GT3 cars(there's an NSX GT3 so, decided to use the GR.3). One initial lap each, BOP On, TCS Off.

The top four felt super stable. Definitely surprised by the NSX, Huracan and R8. Those three, I didn't have trouble with the MR sliiiiide.
The MR that did give me trouble, was the 458. Sorry, but the thing was trying to kill me with the sliding while braking.
Other car that tried to kill me: GT-R. What a naughty car. Does all things okay until nailing the throttle at corner exit. Like it has 10,000"torques" and wants to spin the tyres off the wheels.

The Viper felt slow. I definitely didn't get the maximum feel over the lap.

650S revs were not smooth. Seemed to Huff n puff to redline. Tried shifting before redline, don't know about that car. Was solid handling wise.

M6 lived up to the brand's "The Ultimate driving machine". Very precise. First into the 24s.

R8 was easy, but no reason why it's down there.

Vantage was the first car I ran. Sounds the wickedest.

AMG was rock solid.

Big Lex and the GT-R felt similar. Just the wheel spin from the GT-R made it slower.

All this goes out the window, once other cars and tyre wear come in to play. Will be interesting how the real cars compare to the GR.3s.

 

[zavisic_]

This is racing! What an amazing battle with another top driver VQS_Ryan from England.
Last week's daily race C...

 

[crusselz]

This is racing! What an amazing battle with another top driver VQS_Ryan from England.
Last week's daily race C...

Congratulations on the win. Great race and amazing sportsmanship on the last lap. He could have raced off to take the win.

 

[Groundfish]

4 crb in a row c race (only finished one before gettin times out)
E to 99.
I did some B races just now, 99 is GREAT!

 

[Barney Da Dog]

I've really enjoyed the Corvette in Race B this week - I'd never raced it before, but managed to go consistently quicker than I can with the Viper or Huracan.

Qualified with a lucky 2.05.4 using the TT, but prefer racing something different. Managed one win in high C/S and a couple of podiums, but those damn TTs just power past if I get a bad exit. The racing has been very clean and I think I've only managed an overtake if the TT driver ahead made a mistake. Most importantly though, it has been good fun.

 

[sturk0167]

Thinking about tomorrow's race at SSRX, has anyone ever figured out if it's faster to leap frog with another car on the long straight, or to just bump draft the car?

 

[Rexracer702]

Thinking about tomorrow's race at SSRX, has anyone ever figured out if it's faster to leap frog with another car on the long straight, or to just bump draft the car?

I would think leap frogging would be faster, but you have to have someone that will work with you. The speed you get from a good draft pass is much faster than a bump, if I remember right, and the following car gets slowed when you bump. I think any group of 2 or 3 that stays clean and leapfrogs will pull away...of course, I may be wrong. I guess I'll see.

 

[Lateralus5813]

Yeah, Race B is definitely bugged. My SR dropped to A in one single race. BTW, I'm not enjoying being DR B lol, can't do ****.

 

[GTWolverine]

In spite of winning 10 races this week in Race C, and finishing in the Top 5 a bunch of other times, I actually lost nearly 6k DR from that race. There were a lot of really fast drivers with DR B or lower. Normally I'd brush that off as aliens/demi-aleins ranking up alt accounts, but there were A LOT of people at DR B who were qualifying near me or ahead of me, then going on to beat me as well. This was in spite of setting a decent time of 1:27.9 and having the quickest time of my friends. Most of my DR loss was from 1 rage quit (cost me 3k DR), combined with the additional DR loss from dropping a grade (from A+ to A).

One thing I noticed is that I couldn't brake anywhere near as late as other people. For T1 I had to brake before the cones, just after the radio tower(?) on the right, and for the chicane I had to brake between the braking board and the cones instead of at the cones. I got overtaken at T1 at the start several times because of it. It was like this no matter what car I used or what I set the brake bias to.

 

[Jason885]

In spite of winning 10 races this week in Race C, and finishing in the Top 5 a bunch of other times, I actually lost nearly 6k DR from that race. There were a lot of really fast drivers with DR B or lower. Normally I'd brush that off as aliens/demi-aleins ranking up alt accounts, but there were A LOT of people at DR B who were qualifying near me or ahead of me, then going on to beat me as well. This was in spite of setting a decent time of 1:27.9 and having the quickest time of my friends. Most of my DR loss was from 1 rage quit (cost me 3k DR), combined with the additional DR loss from dropping a grade (from A+ to A).

One thing I noticed is that I couldn't brake anywhere near as late as other people. For T1 I had to brake before the cones, just after the radio tower(?) on the right, and for the chicane I had to brake between the braking board and the cones instead of at the cones. I got overtaken at T1 at the start several times because of it. It was like this no matter what car I used or what I set the brake bias to.

Could they be dropping down an extra gear for a split second going in to the corner late

 

[Groundfish]

I’m still going tonight. Could be a c or b, just did a c, at b s rating now, went last to fourth, clean bonus.
Anyone who thinks the matchmaking is bad needs to race a week at low sr. I just did.
Coming back to 99 is a totally different world.
A good world. On C I have been a Porsche man this week.
The 962 is fantastic imo.

 

[Rexracer702]

I’m still going tonight. Could be a c or b, just did a c, at b s rating now, went last to fourth, clean bonus.
Anyone who thinks the matchmaking is bad needs to race a week at low sr. I just did.
Coming back to 99 is a totally different world.
A good world. On C I have been a Porsche man this week.
The 962 is fantastic imo.

Even though I set my fastest lap in the 962, I raced better in the benz. What kind of race times you been getting?

Finished the week with the C race, and this was probably my best finish. Top 8 were below .29 and my race time was about 19:20, so my pace wasn't too bad from 20th.

 

[adokeeffe]

Still stuck racing a bunch of novices in B/C, but slowly getting my DR rating back up to A. About 3 quarters of the way along B, although SR is still suffering from being rammed at T1. But it's even more rewarding to defy everyone else's attempts to take you out, and then out drive them to the win, on a clean race with the FL

 

[NoStopN]

It may be the most ideal race ever for alt accounts.

Not sure what my alts have in N600. Might be time to run what I brung. I'll keep an eye out for you.

So been driving a few race C on both accounts. Definitely fun, and quite the challenge to stay dead consistent for the 13 laps. Then you have people suffering unfortunate lag issues. Had a good time laughing at this during the race. Especially the catch up laps on the track map.

I LOL'd.

I even had a TT signal for me to pass it up the hill. I was giving it a hard time, even though the player was keeping pace. I wasn't going to divebomb it, but didn't realise it was signalling until the last minute. I was going to jump back behind it, but it had slowed a bit and I flipped it's right rear.

I had a TT driver signal me to pass a couple of weeks ago at Big Willow. I was truly shocked that someone would acknowledge a faster car & tell him to pass.

 

[Groundfish]

What kind of race times you been getting

I found personally, not being aggressive until lap 4, staying very slow and no wheelspin or slides, after that, from then on the 962 was GRIPPY. This was my last one...Got to fifth. No contact. I’ll share replay if anyone cries bs.
Tcs was helping soooo much.

Maybe some would say it’s a cheat at tcs3 driving line on, but I’m still learning Fuji

 

[GTWolverine]

Could they be dropping down an extra gear for a split second going in to the corner late

Some of them are, but it's not until they actually begin turning in to the corner. If I try to brake where they do I've already overshot the corner by that point.

 

[Groundfish]

Some of them are, but it's not until they actually begin turning in to the corner. If I try to brake where they do I've already overshot the corner by that point.

Maybe someone more knowledgeable will post but I think on replay maybe in game a bit there’s technical issues that make it tough to tell where guys brake.
I know for me once I know a track the slope of the track dictates where.
Like usually there’s a bump, being into that uphill gives great initial bite, just past it is downhill no bite, no grip, overshoot.
Jmo

 

[GTWolverine]

Maybe someone more knowledgeable will post but I think on replay maybe in game a bit there’s technical issues that make it tough to tell where guys brake.

This is from the actual races where they'll pass me from several car lengths back going into Turn 1, and (usually) still make the corner.

 

[Groundfish]

This is from the actual races where they'll pass me from several car lengths back going into Turn 1, and (usually) still make the corner.

Hmm well best braking power is wheels ABSOLUTELY straight, beyond that tough to say...

 

[DarkSideNet]

What's your ABS setting? Default or Weak? I heard some people say they changed to weak and it made a huge difference, allegedly.

 

[kungtotte_]

Brake bias, ABS settings, and *how* you get on the brakes matter a whole lot. Try it anywhere with a hard braking zone. Jump off the throttle and slam the brakes down and watch the brake meter, versus lifting off the throttle gently and squeezing down the brakes quickly (not slamming them) and compare the brake meter.

The more the ABS has to work the worse you're braking, basically. So it could be their technique is better than yours.

Also brake bias matters for stopping distance too, even if everything else is the same.

 

[GTWolverine]

What's your ABS setting? Default or Weak? I heard some people say they changed to weak and it made a huge difference, allegedly.

I leave it on default. From what I could see everyone else did too (white circle on the ABS indicator in the replay, not yellow). Now that I've had a chance to really watch some of my replays, it just looks like they braked at the same location I did, but with the added speed of the slipstream, they carried a little extra speed into the braking zone, and grabbing first like @Jason885 said appeared to help in that case, since they were only carrying a bit more speed than normal.

 

[Fennario]

Driving manual transmission makes a huge difference in braking distance. Auto tends to hold gears and doesn't maximize engine braking. Takes a bit of practice to make the transition but can't imagine going back at this point. Supposedly ABS Weak/No ABS makes a difference as well, but makes trail braking much, much more difficult.

 

[Rexracer702]

I found personally, not being aggressive until lap 4, staying very slow and no wheelspin or slides, after that, from then on the 962 was GRIPPY. This was my last one...Got to fifth. No contact. I’ll share replay if anyone cries bs.
Tcs was helping soooo much.
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Maybe some would say it’s a cheat at tcs3 driving line on, but I’m still learning Fuji

Those are some great times. I'd say you're a good second to 1.5 faster race pace than me.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Weight transfer makes a very big difference too. Getting off the gas just a tiny bit of time before braking and then letting the brake up a little to not activate the ABS is also helping.