Do all race cars in GT3 REALLY exist???

sejtur · Oct 28, 2003

Do they?

daan · Oct 28, 2003

phychosis2 · Oct 28, 2003

Originally posted by sejtur
Do they?

not all of them.

milefile · Oct 28, 2003

Only some.

TurboSmoke · Oct 28, 2003

its only the F1 cars that dont exist....i think.....could be wrong....

what else doesnt exist?

Driftster · Oct 28, 2003

The F1 cars exsist...just not sponsored by PD, as for the other cars.....90% of them have been made some never saw the race track.....
Real
GT1
R390
787B
XJ220
Diablo
Oreca
GT40
Calsonic Skyline
Penzoil Skyline
Loctite Zexel skyline
Mugen NSX
Raybrig NSX
LUPO cup car

Other Sponsored Title cars (ie TOM's supra)

Real/Produced in a reasonable look alike form
Rx7 LM car
S2000 LM car
Imprezza LM car
ETC.

Fake
FTO LM car
Yo momma's chest

rollazn · Oct 28, 2003

how do you know FTO LM is fake... i seen a real picture of a FTO race car... dunno if its the same thing...

ROll

Race Idiot · Oct 28, 2003

There are race/tuner cars that look simmilar to the LM cars (Altezza, RX-7, S2000, Impreza, FT0 and Camaro), but they are no way based on them.

Although if you get a yellow Impreza LM, you can kinda pretend it's that crazy Jun WRX.

The FTO race car IRL is probably FF and doesn't have a magical 600bhp unknown engine.

Pupik · Oct 28, 2003

The Camaro Race Car looks a lot like the SCCA Trans-Am Camaro (black-and-white scheme).

The F1 cars are fairly true to life in design and stats; however, the paint schemes are similar, even though the color choices aren't even close. The names of the chassis and engines are hidden, for licensing purposes.

And the FTO LM is about as real as Sonic the Hedgehog. It may as well be the Official Mascot of Gran Turismo.

Race Idiot · Oct 28, 2003

Originally posted by pupik
The Camaro Race Car looks a lot like the SCCA Trans-Am Camaro (black-and-white scheme).

Yeah, but I doub't it was actually modeled from that car. Same with the Impreza LM. There was an uncanny resemblence to the HKS Altezza to the Altezza LM.

And the FTO LM is about as real as Sonic the Hedgehog. It may as well be the Official Mascot of Gran Turismo.

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I think the mascot car has always been the Castrol supra, featuring heavily in artwork and the intros of the GT series games.

Well to me anyway, it makes sense.

Dave A · Oct 28, 2003

The FTO LM was first created in GT1, Mitsubishi was planning a 4wd turbocharged version of the FTO and KY thought it would be nice to make a 4wd turbo race car FTO, the real 4wd FTO was cancelled before it got off the drawing board but KY's FTO has survived.

Famine · Oct 28, 2003

Originally posted by Driftster
Real
Toyota TS020 GT-One
Nissan R390 GT1 LM
Mazda 787B
Jaguar XJ220 GT
Tickford Falcon XR8
Dodge Team Oreca Viper GTS-R
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R
Ford Gulf GT40
Nomad Diablo JGTC
Calsonic Skyline JGTC
Pennzoil Skyline JGTC
Loctite Zexel Skyline JGTC
Castrol Mugen NSX JGTC
Raybrig NSX JGTC
ARTA NSX JGTC
Denso SARD Supra JGTC
Tom's Castrol Supra JGTC
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia JGTC (GT300)
Toyota SuperAutoBacs MR-S JGTC (GT300)
VW Lupo Cup car
VW Beetle Cup car
Renaultsport Clio V6 Cup car
Spoon S2000 Race car

Fake (with possible real-life basis)
Mazda RX7 LM car
Honda S2000 LM car
Subaru Impreza LM car
Mitsubishi FTO LM car
Chevrolet Camaro Race car
P001
P002
F094/S
F094/H
F090/S
F688/S
F687/S
F686/M

That's better

Pupik · Oct 29, 2003

Originally posted by Race Idiot
I think the mascot car has always been the Castrol supra, featuring heavily in artwork and the intros of the GT series games.

Well to me anyway, it makes sense.

Hmm, forgot about that one. But the Castrol Supra's real, and the FTO's still fake.

But a damned good fake, at that!

The Impreza Rally Car (with rectangular headlamps) has also survived 3 versions of Gran Turismo, even though there was no rally racing in GT1.

Zero · Oct 29, 2003

Originally posted by Famine
That's better

Famine....you know damn well that all of the F1 cars were in fact real race cars.

P001 - similar to the 94s
P002 - same as 688/s
F094/S - driven by Senna in 1994 for Williams
F094/H - driven by Damon Hill in 1994 for Williams
F090/S - driven by Senna in 1990 for Williams
F688/S - driven by Senna in 1988
F687/S - driven by Senna in 1987
F686/M - driven by Nigel Mansell in 1986 for Williams

Driftster · Oct 29, 2003

Originally posted by Driftster
Real
Toyota TS020 GT-One
Nissan R390 GT1 LM
Mazda 787B
Jaguar XJ220 GT
Tickford Falcon XR8
Dodge Team Oreca Viper GTS-R
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R
Ford Gulf GT40
Nomad Diablo JGTC
Calsonic Skyline JGTC
Pennzoil Skyline JGTC
Loctite Zexel Skyline JGTC
Castrol Mugen NSX JGTC
Raybrig NSX JGTC
ARTA NSX JGTC
Denso SARD Supra JGTC
Tom's Castrol Supra JGTC
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia JGTC (GT300)
Toyota SuperAutoBacs MR-S JGTC (GT300)
VW Lupo Cup car
VW Beetle Cup car
Renaultsport Clio V6 Cup car
Spoon S2000 Race car
Nismo LM Skyline
P001
P002
F094/S
F094/H
F090/S
F688/S
F687/S
F686/M

Fake (with possible real-life basis)
Mazda RX7 LM car
Honda S2000 LM car
Subaru Impreza LM car
~~Mitsubishi FTO LM car~~
~~Chevrolet Camaro Race car~~
( my grandma'z azz that's modeled after the trans am one......The trans am one get's so much better times at leg)

THAT'S BETTER

Jay · Oct 29, 2003

what about the Zonda racecar..........fake?.....i think

sejtur · Oct 29, 2003

Originally posted by Zero
Famine....you know damn well that all of the F1 cars were in fact real race cars.

P001 - similar to the 94s
P002 - same as 688/s
F094/S - driven by Senna in 1994 for Williams
F094/H - driven by Damon Hill in 1994 for Williams
F090/S - driven by Senna in 1990 for Williams
F688/S - driven by Senna in 1988
F687/S - driven by Senna in 1987
F686/M - driven by Nigel Mansell in 1986 for Williams

I see they've let all honour to ayrton senna!

Famine · Oct 29, 2003

Originally posted by Zero
Famine....you know damn well that all of the F1 cars were in fact real race cars.

P001 - similar to the 94s
P002 - same as 688/s
F094/S - driven by Senna in 1994 for Williams
F094/H - driven by Damon Hill in 1994 for Williams
F090/S - driven by Senna in 1990 for Williams
F688/S - driven by Senna in 1988
F687/S - driven by Senna in 1987
F686/M - driven by Nigel Mansell in 1986 for Williams

Except... they aren't. They may appear to be the same, but they aren't, in fact, the actual cars. For a start, the names are off - the F094/S should be an FW16 (help me out here daan).

The P001 and P002 are in fact hybrid F1 cars - their bodies are the same as the F094/S and F688/M, but they borrow nosecones from elsewhere.

Driftster: The Nismo Skyline LM is the road version, so not a race car at all...

So the list ought to read:

Real:
Toyota TS020 GT-One
Nissan R390 GT1 LM
Mazda 787B
Jaguar XJ220 GT
Tickford Falcon XR8
Dodge Team Oreca Viper GTS-R
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R
Ford Gulf GT40
Nomad Diablo JGTC
Calsonic Skyline JGTC
Pennzoil Skyline JGTC
Loctite Zexel Skyline JGTC
Castrol Mugen NSX JGTC
Raybrig NSX JGTC
ARTA NSX JGTC
Denso SARD Supra JGTC
Tom's Castrol Supra JGTC
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia JGTC (GT300)
Toyota SuperAutoBacs MR-S JGTC (GT300)
Opel Calibra Touring Car
Opel Astra Touring Car
Mercedes CLK Touring Car
VW Lupo Cup car
VW Beetle Cup car
Renaultsport Clio V6 Cup car
Spoon S2000 Race car
Subaru Impreza 1999 WRC
Mitsubishi Lancer EvoVI WRC
Lancia Delta Integrale HF RC
Ford Escort RS Cosworth WRC
Ford Focus WRC (Bah! Humbug!)
Citroen Xsara Rally Car
Suzuki Escudo Pike's Peak (how could we forget? )

Fake (with possible real-life basis):
Pagani Zonda LM Race car
Mazda RX7 LM car
Honda S2000 LM car
Subaru Impreza LM car
Mitsubishi FTO LM car
Chevrolet Camaro Race car
Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype
Mitsubishi Lancer EvoVII Rally Car Prototype
Vauxhall Calibra Touring Car
Vauxhall Astra Touring Car
P001
P002
F094/S
F094/H
F090/S
F688/S
F687/S
F686/M

Pupik · Oct 29, 2003

F094/S = F094/H = Williams FW16-Renault
F090/S = McLaren MP4/5B-Honda
F688/S = McLaren MP4/4-Honda
F686/M = Williams FW11-Honda
F687/S = Lotus 99T-Honda

Before you claim the Lotus F1 car should be a Lotus "Special", please note that the Lotus F1 Team had almost nothing to do with Lotus cars after founder Colin Champman died in late-1982.

Famine · Oct 29, 2003

Originally posted by pupik
F094/S = F094/H = Williams FW14-Renault
F090/S = McLaren MP4/5B-Honda
F688/S = McLaren MP4/4-Honda
F686/M = Williams FW11-Honda
F687/S = Lotus T99-Honda

If the F094/S is a Williams FW14 (which it isn't - it's an FW16), why is it not CALLED "Williams FW14", or even "FW14"?

Why does it lap - even in the hands of a numpty like me - 10+ seconds quicker than the FW16 could manage?

The cars may be based on the real-life counterparts, but are not the same car - hence their presence in the "Fake (with possible real-life basis)" column.

RUI · Oct 29, 2003

In that list you seem to be forgeting the 3 german touring cars: the Calibra, the Astra and the CLK.

i believe they are also based on real racing cars

exhaust_note · Oct 29, 2003

Originally posted by VIPERGTSR01
what about the Zonda racecar..........fake?.....i think

nooooo.... way real

exhaust_note · Oct 30, 2003

Originally posted by RUI
In that list you seem to be forgeting the 3 german touring cars: the Calibra, the Astra and the CLK.

i believe they are also based on real racing cars

they are DTM racing cars... they're real

super dave · Oct 30, 2003

all cars on gt3 as well as gt2 and gt1 are based upon real cars some do go by other names you may not recognise

toyomatt84 · Oct 30, 2003

I've seen each of all of those in real life, so I think they're all real, just by experience of course.

Zero · Oct 30, 2003

Originally posted by Famine
Except... they aren't. They may appear to be the same, but they aren't, in fact, the actual cars. For a start, the names are off - the F094/S should be an FW16 (help me out here daan).

The P001 and P002 are in fact hybrid F1 cars - their bodies are the same as the F094/S and F688/M, but they borrow nosecones from elsewhere.

I would imagine that Williams would not give the licensing to Polyphony Digital which is why the cars not named with the actual names but you are right about the 001 and 002, since I havent been around the game in a long time I forgot that the 001 had the slanted nosecone... :banghead:

Race Idiot · Oct 30, 2003

Originally posted by pupik
The Impreza Rally Car (with rectangular headlamps) has also survived 3 versions of Gran Turismo, even though there was no rally racing in GT1.

Ahh, but it's not the same car.
The one in GT1 was either a 98 or 97, the one in GT2 was definitely a 99 (Looked allot like the 22b, uh I have a feeling you could win the older one in an endurance?) and the one in GT3 is either a 99 or 2000 model.

Originally posted by Famine
Ford Focus WRC - no Focus WRC has ever run in that livery, although the car itself exists.

I'm sure there was a privateer car running in the WRC (at the time when the focus ran that Martini livery) that had those markings. Mind you it could have been the rally GB?

I can't remember.

Famine · Oct 30, 2003

Originally posted by RUI
In that list you seem to be forgeting the 3 german touring cars: the Calibra, the Astra and the CLK.

i believe they are also based on real racing cars

*whistles*

daan · Oct 30, 2003

Originally posted by Famine
no Focus WRC has ever run in that livery, although the car itself exists.

Far be it from me to prove GTP's most knowledgeable member wrong but....

Famine · Oct 30, 2003

We'll shove her on the list then...

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