Do you think drifting has been canned?

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Do you think drifting will still be featured in Gran Turismo 4?


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GT4 is going to include Motorsports land from GT2
it will be the best for drifting competition
btw as above mention, Tsukuba is one of the D1 track
Fuji Speedway is also one of the D1 track
 
Drifting, while not being my bag, is indded an actual motorsport. It does take tallent and some inteigence to swing a car around an entire track that isn't an oval. But IMO it's really a waste of expensive tires.....
just my opinion. Some people like it some don't. Just like some people don't like my fav motor-sport, Drag Racing. But we can all agree o none thing as GT fans or atleast we should:
NASCAR ISN"T A SPORT AND IT SUCKS!
Nothing talented about going left all damn day, occasionaly pitting.
LeMans style racing, now that is talent, car has to be set-up to be fast and handle great on a road coarse, not just to go left and straight....
 
RX-7_FC_DrIfteR
My only fear is that, there going to make drifting like NFSU(need for speed undergound) . i would totaly kill my slef if they do.
wow killing your SLEF that's harsh! J/k. There's no way PD would use make it like NFSU. Kaz is a total realist when it comeds to his GT creation, he wouldnt change the handling of the game for each mode as in NFS.

Ford 429 Hemi
But we can all agree o none thing as GT fans or atleast we should: NASCAR ISN"T A SPORT AND IT SUCKS! Nothing talented about going left all damn day, occasionaly pitting.
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that would so awsome if they included drifting, today i drifted around laguna seca in GT3, i didnt just drift every corner, i was drifting the ENTIRE lap. i will up load the vid sometime
 
Ford 429 Hemi
Drifting, while not being my bag, is indded an actual motorsport. It does take tallent and some inteigence to swing a car around an entire track that isn't an oval. But IMO it's really a waste of expensive tires.....
just my opinion. Some people like it some don't. Just like some people don't like my fav motor-sport, Drag Racing. But we can all agree o none thing as GT fans or atleast we should:
NASCAR ISN"T A SPORT AND IT SUCKS!
Nothing talented about going left all damn day, occasionaly pitting.
LeMans style racing, now that is talent, car has to be set-up to be fast and handle great on a road coarse, not just to go left and straight....

Sry to say this, but I have a problem with you. You say "drifting is a sport. Some like it. some don't."

Same goes for NASCAR Buddy!

IN fact, NASCAR is US' biggest motorsport. Over 2 million fans show up at NASCAR races every year. Heck, there about 2 times as many NASCAR fans as there are ALMS fans b/c not alot have heard of it to. And people here don't have to agree with you on that and neither do I. Why does it suck? B/c all they do i drive on an oval? Sears Point buddy. And Super Speedway pretty much the same thing.

Face it. You think NASCAR sucks b/c it is your opinion. I respect that like other should, and you and other should respect my opinion and others that NASCAR does not suck.

Saying again...

NASCAR is US' biggest Motorsport.

There is a talent to turning the car. You think its just turn left and pit? No. The rules are very strict on MANY MANY things. You should research some on Nascar before you say it doesn't take talent and isn't a sport. B/c it is!

BTW, saying there's no talent is just the same as saying their's no talent to drag.
They don't turn. They don't even pit. They just press the pedal and go. But that's only the tip. There's more to it like watching the lights and regulations. Same goes for Nascar.

Think about your favorite sport before you say another sport doesn't take talent. 👎
 
I don't know how many times I've typed this, but let me type this again. Don't assume that because drifting is in GT4 means that "Need for Speed: Underground" action is going to be popular. An interesting (stupid) example of drifting is when someone on Speed Channel show "WindTunnel with Dave Despain" E-mailed saying this: (not exact quote) "...want to see drifting? Just look at non-winged sprint cars on short tracks."

Gosh, can't we break away from Americana for at least a day? Guess not if everyone has their way. Anyhow, I noted that GT gamers shouldn't be afraid to try new things. All of you who played Gran Turismo 2 for the first time, were you afraid to play Rally Racing in GT2? I actually liked it. Didn't do a lot of GT Rallying, but it's there if you like it.

One of the biggest issues concerning GT4 is that there are drifting cars, performance tuner cars, drifting, and even the mention of spoilers (as in rear wings and such). All the while, a lot of people think GT4 is going to support a crowd that people rather not have. For some people, it's like having a girl in an all-boy school. For some others, it's like having a Britney Spears fan to a Limp Bizkit concert. But as I said, I think this is more of getting more people into the GT series. You bring more people into the game, your audience expands. And yeah, a person into NFS:U playing GT4 is obviously not going to fare well against veterans like most of us here on GTPlanet. But in my view, don't tell me that they have no place. I think the GT series is about two things. Driving, and fun. It's predominantly a road racing game (not a bad thing at all), but there's a great deal of freedom in what you can do and what you can race. Who says GT4 has to be just "pick a car, a race, and race on?" So case in point, I'm not bothered by this. I'm not afraid to try new things. Been that way since I seen that red Trial Celica in the game.
 
I'd like to see a drifting mode in the game, however, I'd prefer if it was just for fun and not part of the 100%. It's simply too hard to judge it accurately with an AI.

As for courses, we've got Fuji and Tsukuba, both major courses in D1GP, so don't say there are no courses.

More than drifting, I'd like to see an expanded JGTC series, and to have some of the endurance races be part of the Super Taikyu series.
 
.........is there any harm of drifting mode going in?

If you don't like drifting then don't drift! I personally love drifting, good fun indeed. I also enjoy actual proper track racing trying to beat my own time however I get rather fustrated somtimes if I can't beat a time I've set in my mind.

Drifting on the other hand.........if you didn't do it sucessfully........hell you had a lot of fun in the process!!!!!!
 
I think drifting will be in. I mean, think about it, why would they go and put in a gymkhana course if there wouldn't be a drift mode.

Sigh**

Say...if KY thought about drifting......why didn't he think about including a few touges? I am officialy sick of Trial Mountain :D


(Sorry for the off-topic) but I was looking around the web and saw the real "Akina"
It is called Haruna in japan. Even the gutters were there, but by the way they look, it'd be a damn stupid idea to try and "gutter hook"
 
I definitely agree that AI judged drifting would not be very accurate. I have played the game Kaido battle 2 which uses a point system that judges on angle and speed when drifting through each corner.

Also those that hate drifting and have never tried or havent been able to do it dont post and waste space
 
Fc3s-iroha-drft
Also those that hate drifting and have never tried or havent been able to do it dont post and waste space

Just because you hate drifting doesn't mean that you can't express your opinion on whether drifting is in or not. I enjoy drifting but I must admit both sides are missing the point of this thread. 90% of the posts have been either "Wow, I love drifting, it has to be in" or "drifting isn't a real motorsports I don't want them to waste their time". Either way you see it I believe drifting is an inevitability in GT4. It is such a large force in japan that I cannot see PD ignoring it. I can't see physics getting in the way as you can drift in GT3. So whether or not drifting is recognozed in GT4 or not you still will be able to do it on your own.
 
I've read through this post and will admit I have no friggin clue what the point is.

Of course you will be able to "drift" in GT4. Any car can be setup to drift, some better than others, but all you need is a car and some road to "drift". The idea of an AI judged drift competition sounds like a clusterf$@k.

Online drifting competitions, judged by real people, would be cool but not judged by an AI.
 
Takumi Fujiwara
I'd like to see a drifting mode in the game, however, I'd prefer if it was just for fun and not part of the 100%. It's simply too hard to judge it accurately with an AI.

Being somewhat more advanced in years than most here, I am a bit confused about the "sport" of drifting...

I would have thought that drifting would have been an outcome of how one handles a car, that is how one enters a corner/curve whatever and then how one exits the same... Having instructed for a few years at a "Sporting Car Club" we always taught folks how to correct slides etc using "opposite lock", but never to intentionally enter into a drift and it was always to guarantee degredation of tyres, scrub speed etc.

So back to my point, if any of the above is true, then how does one create a "drift mode" in a game? Technically one can make almost any car drift, some better and longer than others... Why does there have to be a drift mode? Could someone please explain... TIA.
 
I only pray that the close-mindedness of the few people posting here hasn't extended to the creators of GT. Drifting is a sport, believe me it takes talent and a finely tuned car to drift right. Sure anyone can drift, but so can anyone drive around a track, but to compete with the pros it takes a lot more. Watch a video of Japanese drivers drifting on a 2 lane mountain road in pitch black night, and tell me that doesn't take skill.

Didn't I read somewhere that drifting was to be included with D1 style rules? Basically, one car leads while another chases for a lap, then vice versa for the next lap. The follow car cannot interrupt the lead cars drift (ie. tapping them from behind) and if the follow car passes the lead car it is basically a win.

My .02
 
TheSquidd
I only pray that the close-mindedness of the few people posting here hasn't extended to the creators of GT. Drifting is a sport, believe me it takes talent and a finely tuned car to drift right. Sure anyone can drift, but so can anyone drive around a track, but to compete with the pros it takes a lot more. Watch a video of Japanese drivers drifting on a 2 lane mountain road in pitch black night, and tell me that doesn't take skill.

Didn't I read somewhere that drifting was to be included with D1 style rules? Basically, one car leads while another chases for a lap, then vice versa for the next lap. The follow car cannot interrupt the lead cars drift (ie. tapping them from behind) and if the follow car passes the lead car it is basically a win.

My .02

Now that sounds fun. What stops the follow car from grip racing and passing the lead car quickly? I can see how you would stop that in real life, but not in GT4.
 
Why would Polyphony code the game to remove the physics involved with drifting? You can't just remove drifting without seriously ****ing around with the physics of the game.
 
Of course drifting as in the act of doing it is included as it is a realistic physics model, but I believe we're talking about drifting as a competition, with tracks set up with the act of drifting in mind.

As for D1 rules, I'm not too clear on it as I've only seen it from option videos and their translation of the Japanese announcers is a little shady, but I believe the trick is for the front car to drift in a tight enough line to block the other car and potentionally ruin his drift. As for grip racing, at a D1 event you won't win over many judges/fans with grip.
 
I still would like to see some sort of system included for me and my friends, we have drifting competitions on GT3 nightly and it'd be nice not to have to have a 3rd person there to judge the results (our drifting is quite similiar so finding a winner is not always easy). As for it being necessary for the 100% complete, I'm kinda 50/50. It isn't like drifting should be overlooked as a realistic version of automotive competition, but I can see how a lot of people simply wouldn't want to do it and would riot and burn down PD for making it a necessity for the 100%.
 
I think if it is included in the game it would have to be used towards 100% completion.
 
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