Dr.Disrespect banned from Twitch
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Has anybody unraveled the mystery about why he was banned?
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In this topic: People of gaming culture unaware of other gaming culture outside of their own gaming culture.
Streaming is a huge part of gaming these days. It's all entertainment and up to the streamer to decide how they want to present that to you. Some are extreme like him, others less so, and others that simply don't care about that at all and just stream because they enjoy playing games.
The few that I watch fall in to the last category. They don't go out of their way to do anything, don't have fancy animations for things. They simply play the game and interact with chat. And they play what they want, which more often than not isn't some hype AAA blockbuster just-came-out game.
Streaming is a huge part of gaming these days. It's all entertainment and up to the streamer to decide how they want to present that to you. Some are extreme like him, others less so, and others that simply don't care about that at all and just stream because they enjoy playing games.
The few that I watch fall in to the last category. They don't go out of their way to do anything, don't have fancy animations for things. They simply play the game and interact with chat. And they play what they want, which more often than not isn't some hype AAA blockbuster just-came-out game.
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The concept of it baffles me. Its like listening to someone else explaining a dream they had the other night. Literally of no interest to anyone but the person who had that dream. I'll gladly spend my free time playing a game, but i wouldn't want to inflict that on anyone else and neither would i want someone to inflict that on me.
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He didn't like The Last of Us 2
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Sure, I did that a bunch when I was a kid, but it was always watching my friend play, him getting frustrated and saying "here you try". Plus I was still hanging out with someone. I just don't understand streaming because sitting at my computer watching someone I don't know playing a game while saying jokes I don't understand doesn't do it for me. I know it's popular though.
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You like watching sports right? It's the exact same thing. I'm not going out to play football so I'll watch the pros show off what the best football can look like. Replace the word football with "cool game".
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I get why people don't like watching a person play a game by themselves. The interaction is admittedly a bit odd. The streamers I watch work with other people so there's always a group dynamic between themselves that the viewers get to enjoy. In that sense it's more like a show to watch than a thing to be a part of.
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This just in - not everyone likes the same thing or cares to explore things they aren't interested in.
More often than not the people you see pop up are usually just ridiculous or over the top, like Dr.Disrespect - just obnoxious and annoying. You find one every once in a while that's tolerable. Then there's those that are just sitting there, doing nothing, not talking or interacting much - pretty boring, why even stream your face at that point. It's like two extremes, with not too many populating the middle-ground.
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If anyone is interested in some random stuff that's not always the new hype thing, check out PatStaresAt and WoolieVersus on Twitch and YouTube. Woolie records the LPs live so you can watch them make it which is a lot of fun or tune in later for the episodic installments. They're usually around 30 minutes but sometimes near an hour if it serves the game better to not break up an important chunk.
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Not everyone embedded in "gaming culture" likes the same games.
Not everyone embedded in sporting culture likes the same sports.
What if I don't like "football" (American football) but I like football (association football)? Am I somehow less of an association football fan if I don't know who the best American football players are?
Kay.
Is it your contention that this person is a pro showing off what the best gamers can look like? What defines the "best" gamers in this context?
What games do they play? Why would I be interested if it's not a game I'm interested in?
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I just picked football as an example, jeez. Sure maybe not everyone's a "pro" but you do get my point right? It's all about living vicariously.
They play a wide variety of games, and possibly yes. There are a bunch that I never thought I'd care about but watching their LPs were entertaining and gave me an interest. They helped me get into Dark Souls and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure which I never would of heard of if it wasn't for them.
They play a wide variety of games, and possibly yes. There are a bunch that I never thought I'd care about but watching their LPs were entertaining and gave me an interest. They helped me get into Dark Souls and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure which I never would of heard of if it wasn't for them.
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Quoting someone notifies them of a reply, and helps organise your response.
You picked one sport. There are many. Someone who likes to watch pros playing one may have no interest in watching pros play a different one. There are also many games...
Just because someone likes sport doesn't mean they have to like all sport and watch any sport when its on and know all of the pros who play all of the sports. The same thing applies to games.
My point is that, using your metaphor of sports fans, not everyone is interested in all aspects of a culture by default. Sports fans don't have to like golf and javelin in equal measure to ice hockey and basketball - they can like one sport more and others less or not at all. Gamers don't have to like Euro Truck Simulator and Pokemon Go in equal measure to Call of Duty and Uncharted - they can like one game more and others less or not at all.
Not knowing Borussia Moenchengladbach's reserve goalkeeper because you're not into German football doesn't make you less of a sports fan, and not knowing who the person named in this thread's title because you're not into whatever the hell he plays doesn't make you less of a gamer.
"Am I somehow less of an association football fan if I don't know who the best American football players are?"
"Is it your contention that this person is a pro showing off what the best gamers can look like?"
And that response would be weird to either.
I know. Did you not follow the rest of the metaphor?
You picked one sport. There are many. Someone who likes to watch pros playing one may have no interest in watching pros play a different one. There are also many games...
Just because someone likes sport doesn't mean they have to like all sport and watch any sport when its on and know all of the pros who play all of the sports. The same thing applies to games.
No, not really. Your first line seemed to suggest that gamers who don't know as much about certain aspects of gaming culture as you were somehow lesser gamers. It was pretty close to the level of "You like games, eh? Name the three best fishing simulators on the ZX Spectrum then." gatekeeping.
My point is that, using your metaphor of sports fans, not everyone is interested in all aspects of a culture by default. Sports fans don't have to like golf and javelin in equal measure to ice hockey and basketball - they can like one sport more and others less or not at all. Gamers don't have to like Euro Truck Simulator and Pokemon Go in equal measure to Call of Duty and Uncharted - they can like one game more and others less or not at all.
Not knowing Borussia Moenchengladbach's reserve goalkeeper because you're not into German football doesn't make you less of a sports fan, and not knowing who the person named in this thread's title because you're not into whatever the hell he plays doesn't make you less of a gamer.
I don't know what "and possibly yes" refers to. The only two questions I asked in there that can have a yes/no answer were:
"Am I somehow less of an association football fan if I don't know who the best American football players are?"
"Is it your contention that this person is a pro showing off what the best gamers can look like?"
And that response would be weird to either.
I'm not interested in either game, so I'm not likely to make a point of watching either of them play it. What does "LP" mean?
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That list thing is a response to this question. An LP is a full collection of videos documenting someone's playthrough of a game.
I said possibly yes because it depends on a lot of factors. Even if they have a good dynamic I still tend to shy away from things like the Final Fantasy series or Destiny. MMO RPGs in general really just don't interest me and I've tried to enjoy them playing those games but it doesn't do it for me.
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I only posted for the cheap Dr pun. Otherwise I wouldn't have posted anyway.
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It's all good, I was just trying to be clever 
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That is probably very much indeed the case
It is very much a generational thing. I've been playing computer games for the best part of 40 years now. I think for most Gen Xers, like i mentioned earlier, the concept of watching other people playing computer games is weird. Some of that is down to the fact that once you get to a certain age your whole concept of time and the passing of it shifts from time being a plentiful renewable source to time being finite and precious - and unfortunately, for me at least, even as someone who has good health and a family history of longevity, it's a commodity for which my allotted segment of is more behind me than it is ahead of me. If only just.
Had Twitch and the like been around when i was a kid i still think most of my generation would have not been able to get their head around it. In the same way that dramatized/scripted reality TV would never had taken off in the way it has in recent times. Not sure why. Perhaps its a subliminal thing passed down through our parents, born just post WWII, and instilled in to them by their own parents that free time is too precious to be wasted watching other people living their own mundane lives.
So whilst i have only a tiny nagging regret that i spend some of that precious free time playing games, i can't comprehend spending it watching others doing so.
So there you go. Possibly the most old man post in the history of GTPlanet.
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Alright, let me try to shine a light here, since most people reading seem confused as to who this guy is, or why it's a talking point at all.
I'm not a huge streaming fan, but the internet circles I frequent are a little closer to this corner of the net, so I am fairly well informed as to why this is a "big deal".
So to explain Dr Disrespect to you all, he is basically a charicature of the typical First Person Shooter, Battle Royale type of gamer. Tie in a little 80s aesthetic and a comedic backstory as "Two time Blockbuster world gaming champion" and you have a pretty decent recipe for success on twitch. Viewers tend to tune in to his streams because A) He is a highly skilled player, so they get to watch top end gameplay and B) he is a comedic charicature that pokes fun at this more "macho" scene in gaming, particularly around the battle royale games.
So why is his ban a big deal? Chiefly, because he has a very high profile. As one of the early successful streamers, he has become a symbol of sorts for the whole medium, and previous controversies (including filming in a public bathroom) around him have shone a bad light on the scene as a whole.
So why is the ban strange? Twitch does not show much restraint with the banhammer - their ToS is airtight and bans a LOT of types of content outright. Twitch has given many permabans out to both big and small streamers, for a range of reasons. Some people are banned for using racial slurs or hate speech, some for inciting violence or stuff like doxing against others. Some have been banned even for accidentally, or being tricked into, showing a few frames of pornography live on stream.
What's weird about Doc's ban is that Twitch haven't given a reason as to why they banned him. Twitch are usually very clear about this, and with a ban on a streamer with this kind of popularity, it's very odd that no statement has come out on why he was banned.
Internet being internet, speculation abounds. Some believe this is all down to a contract dispute - Doc reportedly recently signed a multi-million dollar deal to continue streaming with Twitch, which may have included certain stipulations such as "you must stream for 100hrs in x days" or whatever.
Some think this may have something to do with his recent endorsements of some pseudo science theories, as he has been talking about certain rocks he has bought that do something with bad energy, or whatever, and with his viewers largely being of a younger age, some think this is something Twitch wouldn't want one of their most well known streamers doing.
Some think its a response to a secret plan Doc and several other high profile streamers had to break away from Twitch and start their own platform.
All of these theories have reasons why they are unlikely to be true, but the main point here is that it's WEIRD that no statement was given, and that's lead to all this wild speculation which, considering some of the controversies and odd behaviour of the man in question, easily gets out of hand.
There you have it, a basic crash course in why this is a thing anyone is talking about at all. Probably time to get used to this sort of stuff, as among the kiddies, some of these streamers are like, rockstar famous, with the money to back it up.
I'm not a huge streaming fan, but the internet circles I frequent are a little closer to this corner of the net, so I am fairly well informed as to why this is a "big deal".
So to explain Dr Disrespect to you all, he is basically a charicature of the typical First Person Shooter, Battle Royale type of gamer. Tie in a little 80s aesthetic and a comedic backstory as "Two time Blockbuster world gaming champion" and you have a pretty decent recipe for success on twitch. Viewers tend to tune in to his streams because A) He is a highly skilled player, so they get to watch top end gameplay and B) he is a comedic charicature that pokes fun at this more "macho" scene in gaming, particularly around the battle royale games.
So why is his ban a big deal? Chiefly, because he has a very high profile. As one of the early successful streamers, he has become a symbol of sorts for the whole medium, and previous controversies (including filming in a public bathroom) around him have shone a bad light on the scene as a whole.
So why is the ban strange? Twitch does not show much restraint with the banhammer - their ToS is airtight and bans a LOT of types of content outright. Twitch has given many permabans out to both big and small streamers, for a range of reasons. Some people are banned for using racial slurs or hate speech, some for inciting violence or stuff like doxing against others. Some have been banned even for accidentally, or being tricked into, showing a few frames of pornography live on stream.
What's weird about Doc's ban is that Twitch haven't given a reason as to why they banned him. Twitch are usually very clear about this, and with a ban on a streamer with this kind of popularity, it's very odd that no statement has come out on why he was banned.
Internet being internet, speculation abounds. Some believe this is all down to a contract dispute - Doc reportedly recently signed a multi-million dollar deal to continue streaming with Twitch, which may have included certain stipulations such as "you must stream for 100hrs in x days" or whatever.
Some think this may have something to do with his recent endorsements of some pseudo science theories, as he has been talking about certain rocks he has bought that do something with bad energy, or whatever, and with his viewers largely being of a younger age, some think this is something Twitch wouldn't want one of their most well known streamers doing.
Some think its a response to a secret plan Doc and several other high profile streamers had to break away from Twitch and start their own platform.
All of these theories have reasons why they are unlikely to be true, but the main point here is that it's WEIRD that no statement was given, and that's lead to all this wild speculation which, considering some of the controversies and odd behaviour of the man in question, easily gets out of hand.
There you have it, a basic crash course in why this is a thing anyone is talking about at all. Probably time to get used to this sort of stuff, as among the kiddies, some of these streamers are like, rockstar famous, with the money to back it up.
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