Drift Haus Tuning Garage

Discussion in 'GT6 Drifting' started by DolHaus, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. DolHaus

    DolHaus

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    Car Make/Model: Nissan 240ZG (HS30) '71

    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power: 269BHP @ 6400rpm / 32.7 kgfm @ 5900 rpm
    Weight: 985 kg
    Performance Points:
    458 PP
    Tires: CH

    Suspension:
    (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)


    Ride Height:
    Front: 110Rear: 110
    Spring Rate:Front: 4.66 kg Rear: 5.02 kg
    Dampers (Compression): Front: 5 Rear: 3
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 5 Rear: 3
    Anti-Roll Bars:Front: 3 Rear: 3
    Camber Angle (-):Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle:
    Front: -0.05° Rear: 0.10°

    Drivetrain
    (Fully Customisable Transmission)

    Speed:
    143 mph

    Differential Gear:
    Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff

    Initial Torque:
    6
    Acceleration Sensitivity: 42
    Braking Sensitivity: 6
    Clutch & Flywheel: Twinplate
    Propeller Shaft:
    Carbon

    Power

    Oil Change: Yes
    Power Limiter: 100%
    Engine Tuning:
    Stage 2
    Computer: Sports
    Exhaust:
    Racing
    Exhaust Manifold:
    Isometric
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning:
    Yes
    Turbo Kit: Stage: Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Weight Reduction: Stage 3
    Bonnet: Carbon
    Windows: Weight Reduction
    Ballast: 142kg
    Ballast position: 50
     
  2. DolHaus

    DolHaus

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    Car Make/Model: Nissan Fairlady 280Z-L 2 Seater (S130) '78

    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power: 305BHP @ 6000rpm / 41.2 kgfm @ 5000 rpm
    Weight: 1128 kg
    Performance Points: 470 PP
    Tires:
    CH

    Suspension:
    (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)


    Ride Height:
    Front: 110Rear: 110
    Spring Rate:
    Front: 4.04 kg Rear: 3.96 kg
    Dampers (Compression): Front: 4 Rear: 4
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 4 Rear: 4
    Anti-Roll Bars:Front: 3 Rear: 3
    Camber Angle (-):
    Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle:Front: -0.02° Rear: 0.16°

    Drivetrain
    (Fully Customisable Transmission)
    S
    peed:
    143 mph

    Differential Gear:
    Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff


    Initial Torque:
    6
    Acceleration Sensitivity:
    38
    Braking Sensitivity: 6
    Clutch & Flywheel: Twinplate
    Propeller Shaft:
    Carbon

    Power

    Oil Change: Yes
    Power Limiter: 100%
    Engine Tuning:
    Stage 3
    Computer: Sports
    Exhaust:
    Racing
    Exhaust Manifold:
    Isometric
    Catalytic Converter:
    Sports
    Intake Tuning:
    Yes
    Turbo Kit: Stage:
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O):
    No

    Body

    Weight Reduction: Stage 3
    Bonnet: Carbon
    Windows: Weight Reduction
    Ballast: 102kg
    Ballast position: 50
     
  3. twitcher

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    So I finally got around to testing your R31 tune. I liked it, a lot!! The whole setup was very fun and easy to drive.

    The suspension is nice and lively, but not unstable. And the wheelspin is perfect...it was almost impossible to make a mistake with the throttle. I think that's what made it so much fun. The suspension is pretty soft, and you can keep the throttle down a lot of the time, so it really feels like a missile.

    The only area I struggle with was some high speed sections at GVS and Apricot Hill. I also made 1st gear longer for really tight tracks like GT arena. It'll stay on my settings sheet for a while though, thanks :)


    Here's my tune. It's got a little more power, and you can't go full throttle all the time. I use it to practice throttle control haha.

    Power: 398hp
    Torque: 350ft-lbs
    Weight: 1140kg

    Suspension
    RH: 100 - 85
    SR: 12.60 - 4.30
    DC: 4 - 3
    DE: 5 - 4
    ARB: 5 - 4
    Cam: 1.5 - 0.0
    Toe: 0.00 - 0.65

    Transmission
    • set Auto to 205
    1 - 2.729
    2 - 1.910
    3 - 1.450
    4 - 1.125
    5 - 0.888
    6 - 0.737
    Final - 4.111

    Differential
    Int - 15
    Acc - 60
    Dec - 60

    Engine stage 1
    Spots computer
    Semi-racing exhaust
    Isometric manifold
    Sports catalytic converter
    Intake tuning
    Mid-range turbo

    Ballast: 43kg
    Position: +50

    To get rid of some of the wheelspin, try doing engine stage 3, and racing exhaust, but remove the turbo. It's more forgiving this way.
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2014
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  4. TexRex

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    Is that what you were using yesterday when I was in the R30? I may have to see if I can adapt it since the cars aren't wildly different.
     
  5. DolHaus

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    Glad you enjoyed it
    Could definitely use some more power for the the longer corners, but that could be said of any relatively low power car. I leave them in a 'base tune' stage so that beginners can make them their own, with the new physics its really difficult to learn a high power custom tune, much easier to start with just enough power and then slowly make the car faster and more tuned to your particular style as you have done.
    Thank you for taking the time to drive them, if you have any further requests then feel free to drop me a message or comment, I will get round to them as soon as I can
     
  6. twitcher

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    Yes that was the car I was using when you saw me yesterday. I highly recommend @DolHaus's tune, as it is very good for learning the car. Just plain old fun too :tup:

    As far as the R30 goes, although it's similar to the R31 on paper, it feels quite different, at least to me. I have one that I've been working on, but still not very happy with it. It has bad lag followed by excessive wheelspin. I'm running about 350hp with the turbo, so I may try going back to the stock turbo and aim for 300ish hp.

    Ya man, this is the perfect learner car with your setup!! I totally agree with you in regards to GT6 requiring personalized tunes to really squeeze the most out of a car, so your tune is a perfect starting point. I've got my eye on those Z tunes you just posted :)
     
  7. DolHaus

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    I remember liking one a lot more than the other but I can't remember which one. I think it was the '78 because of the higher torque
     
  8. TexRex

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    The R31 likely has more liner power delivery thanks to its greater number of cylinders (albeit similar displacement) helping the boost come in at a lower RPM. Having had an FJ20-powered car (1986 200SX with the VG removed in favor of the JDM FJ) I tend to favor the R30, but I also find the 31 awkward in appearance with its lower beltline and forward rake. You mentioned thinking the RS-X had a little more wheelspin than the Iron Mask and it stands to reason it got a bump in rubber with the bump in power. I'll definitely try that R31 on the Turbo C though, it can't hurt.
     
  9. twitcher

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    Hmm, I'm getting mixed up lol.

    The R31 is the '87 with the huge trunk and ugly lip spoiler...that's the one I've tuned and love.

    I have an R30 Iron Mask that I'm working on. This was the car that I was saying has more wheelspin than the R31, and that I was going to try using the stock turbo at about 300hp.

    I have yet to do any testing in the R30 RS-X.


    I don't know what you mean by "I'll definitely try that R31 on the Turbo C though, it can't hurt."...aren't the R31 and Turbo C two different cars?
     
  10. Stavingo

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    Hey DolHaus very keen to try out your tunes except I use a wheel and you're on a DS3, just wondering if the tunes you have can be used by wheel drifters, so any feedback from clients who are wheel drifters and use these tunes would be appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Stav
     
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  11. DolHaus

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    I can't think of any reason they wouldn't work but I do not have the means to test so I can't say for sure. The only difference I've noticed with wheel vs. DS3 tunes is brake settings, but that's only important on race cars.
    I would suggest trying one and see if it works, would love to get some feedback from a wheel driver so I can make any future alternative setups.
    I believe @FussyFez was planning on doing some wheel specific drift tunes at some point
     
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  12. FussyFez

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    Yep I've got at least 4 or 5 for Stereotypical drift cars. Will get them posted asap.
     
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  14. Stavingo

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    Alright I'll be sure to try some of your tunes on the weekend and give you some feedback :tup:

    Edit: @FussyFez Just saw your thread of tunes there, the setups look interesting but I'll also give some of those tunes a go as well, thanks for the quick replies everyone.
     
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  15. DolHaus

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    I look forward to hearing what you think.

    (Please be aware that they are intended as base tunes to be personalised to peoples own styles and preferences. Not a finished product so to speak.)
     
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  16. DolHaus

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    Car Make/Model: Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13
    Wheel / Joypad:
    PS3 controller
    Power: 510BHP @ 7300rpm / 53.4 kgfm @ 5800 rpm
    Weight: 1408 kg
    Performance Points: 529 PP
    Tires: CH
    Suspension: (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)
    Ride Height:Front: 90 Rear: 90
    Spring Rate:Front: 7.62 kg Rear: 7.92 kg
    Dampers (Compression): Front: 4 Rear: 4
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 5 Rear: 5
    Anti-Roll Bars:Front: 3 Rear: 4
    Camber Angle (-):Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.4°
    Toe Angle:Front: -0.02° Rear: 0.16°

    Drivetrain
    (Fully Customisable Transmission)

    Speed:
    186 mph

    Differential Gear:
    Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff


    Initial Torque:
    9
    Acceleration Sensitivity: 48
    Braking Sensitivity: 8
    Clutch & Flywheel: Twinplate
    Propeller Shaft: Carbon

    Power

    Oil Change: Yes
    Power Limiter: 100% (limit if you are finding the power a bit much to deal with)
    Engine Tuning: Stage 1
    Computer: Sports
    Exhaust: Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Isometric
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning: Yes
    Turbo Kit: Stage: Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Weight Reduction: Stage 3
    Bonnet: Carbon
    Windows: Weight Reduction
    Ballast: 162kg
    Ballast position: 50

    @DriftRyuji
     
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  17. Stavingo

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    Tried that Genesis Coupe tune @DolHaus on my wheel, seems nice and smooth but I gotta keep my foot on the gas or else it prones to understeer, feels good mid drift and it's nice and stable.

    I'll put my spice of personal preference on it and it'll be an awesome drift car, I'll try your tunes soon @FussyFez
     
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  18. DolHaus

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    Its a tricky car to tune, the weight is a real problem in terms of both stability and rotation. After several failed attempts this is the closest I've got with the car, its fine once you're used to it but you do need to stay on the power and keep the car moving to get the most from it
     
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  19. TexRex

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    Sorry, meant "that R31 tune on the Turbo C". I also referred to the Turbo RS as the RS-x when the RS-X is actually the "Iron Mask" Turbo C. I was headed out and had other things on my mind during those last posts.
     
  20. DolHaus

    DolHaus

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    Car: Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02

    Wheel / Joypad:
    DS3
    Power:
    428 BHP @ 7200 Rpm / 44.9 kgfm @ 5200 Rpm
    Weight: 1039 kg
    Performance Points:
    Tires:
    CH
    Suspension) : Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height:
    Front: 90 mm Rear: 90 mm
    Spring Rate: Front: 8.96 kg Rear: 9.32 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 5 Rear: 4
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 5 Rear: 4
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 4 Rear: 3
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.00° Rear: 0.18°
    Brakes:Racing Upgrade F: 5 R: 5

    Drivetrain:
    (Fully Customisable Transmission)

    Max Speed: 180 mph

    Differential Gear:Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff

    Initial Torque:
    R= 8
    Acceleration Sensitivity: R= 28
    Braking Sensitivity: R= 6
    Clutch & Flywheel: Twin-Plate
    Propeller Shaft:
    Carbon

    Power


    Oil Change: Yes
    Power Limiter:
    100%
    Engine Tuning: Standard
    Computer:
    Sports
    Exhaust:
    Racing
    Exhaust Manifold:
    Isometric
    Catalytic Converter:
    Sports
    Intake Tuning:
    Yes
    Turbo Kit: Stage:
    Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O):

    Body


    Weight Reduction: Stage 3
    Bonnet:
    Carbon
    Windows:
    Weight Reduction
    Ballast:
    0 kg
    Ballast position:0
     
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  21. TexRex

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    I finally broke down and bought an R31 so that I could try these tunes and was just flabbergasted. I shortened the gearbox a little (don't need to hit 189mph) and adjusted camber for controller use but it's spectacular otherwise. @DolHaus you made a truly valiant effort and I especially commend wanting to keep power lower but the extra 100hp really helps in linking corners and keeping the car sideways.
     
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  22. DolHaus

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    Thank you, you have modified the car in the intended way to suit your personal preferences which is the whole idea behind the tunes.
    I prefer to keep the power fairly low as I really don't see any advantages to it, in my experience big power is only needed for high speed track racing and even then it frequently causes problems. I think of it this way, drifting is about spinning the tyres, if it only takes 250bhp to keep the tyres spinning, what is the point of adding another 500bhp on top?
    On another note, The transmission settings are a bit misleading but that is entirely my fault. I usually just stick the 5/6 speed transmission in instead of a full custom transmission, I don't really see any advantages to the full custom box on a drift car being that you spend most of the time bouncing off the limiter in 2nd/3rd. I need to edit my tuning sheet and the posted tunes to prevent future confusion.
    Glad you enjoyed it, if you have any requests or questions then feel free to ask, always willing to help where I can
     
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  23. TexRex

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    I have a habit of strategically over-upgrading and installing a close-ratio fixed box and then removing parts that increase redline so that the top speed comes down because I try to hear the engine and gear whine on top of tire squeal and noise from a car in front of and/or behind me only makes that more difficult. However, lately I've discovered some advantages such as setting ratios to get the most out of just one gear and then tightening the adjacent gears up. I even wish more advanced tuning was possible (setting ratios by number and not having to rely on a predetermined min/max) but that's a topic for another existing thread. Also, I make an effort to NOT bump the limiter because it gives the car a chance to catch up to tire speed.
     
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  24. DolHaus

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    A very clinical approach, well thought out. In all honesty I just tune the suspension and differentials, I add power parts where necessary to improve power/weight or to increase max torque but apart from that I don't think about it too much. Gearing is also not my strong point either, I'm sure there are some advantages to be gained but I want to avoid over specialising the cars too much, turning them into a basic customisable missile car is my aim.

    (I also drive Automatic trans so that may account for some of it lol)
     
  25. TexRex

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    Like you told @twitcher it was intended as a 'base tune' and it excels at being exactly that. Anyone who spends any time at all in the drifting section of the forums knows people approach the discipline differently, so it was obviously tuned by you to suit you and posted with hopes of it suiting other.
     
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  26. DolHaus

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    I just get the basics out of the way so that others can spend their time honing it to their version of perfection.
     
  27. Gogga

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    @DolHaus Thanks for your amazing drift tunes. Its put a new lease on life on my gt6 drifting skills. Your tunes are off the hook!

    If you get a chance please could you tune the 98 Bmw M Coupe for me. It was my favourite drift car from gt5.

    Thanks a million for all your hard work and commitment to the GTP community.
     
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    No worries, glad you enjoyed them
    I will try and get an M Coupe sorted as soon as possible
     
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    Thanks a million bud
     
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  30. DolHaus

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    Car: BMW M Coupe '98

    Wheel / Joypad:
    DS3
    Power:
    392 BHP @ 8200 Rpm / 42.0 kgfm @ 4200 Rpm
    Weight: 1315 kg
    Performance Points:
    477
    Tires:
    CH
    Suspension) : Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height:
    Front: 92 mm Rear: 90 mm
    Spring Rate: Front: 7.24 kg Rear: 6.40 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 4 Rear: 4
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 3 Rear: 3
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 3 Rear: 3
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.00° Rear: 0.20°
    Brakes:Racing Upgrade F: 5 R: 5

    Drivetrain:
    (6 speed Transmission)

    Max Speed: 174 mph

    Differential Gear:Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff

    Initial Torque:
    R= 6
    Acceleration Sensitivity: R= 28
    Braking Sensitivity: R= 6
    Clutch & Flywheel: Twin-Plate
    Propeller Shaft:
    Carbon

    Power


    Oil Change: Yes
    Power Limiter:
    100%
    Engine Tuning: Standard
    Computer:
    Sports
    Exhaust:
    Racing
    Exhaust Manifold:
    Standard
    Catalytic Converter:
    Sports
    Intake Tuning:
    Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage:
    Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O):

    Body


    Weight Reduction: Stage 3
    Bonnet:
    Carbon
    Windows:
    Weight Reduction
    Ballast:
    115 kg
    Ballast position: 50
     
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